Support thread for admin ZgSash

Keith Cook2 said:Dear dustypuma5, as a fan, I haven’t uttered a single crude word, mostly because I was raised with a modicum of decency and because there are minors lurking on this forum who might just pick up those expressions from your post and use them in all the wrong places—which, frankly, isn't allowed here either.
Thanks.

Hey Keith Cook2, I didn't put those words in my post because they were mine—I was just quoting other guys on here who talked to me like that.
So yeah, I respect anyone with manners, especially people who act civil. They don't even have to agree with me.

dustypuma5 said:I've got this theory that most of the cops at Maksimir were actually fans themselves. So nobody wants to shut me up about fans.
I don't have a problem with fans, I just have a problem with people hiding behind the fan label just to let out their primal urges. But since I'm "condemned" as the opposition and labeled a cop or whatever, we aren't even talking about fans anymore, just me or you.
And look, I haven't said a single nasty word to anyone in this thread, yet I've been hit with a few insults that are just gross.
Whatever, I'll stay chill, you guys keep going. I just hope some of you have enough decency and integrity to tell someone from "your side" to get lost when they cross the line.
I don't see anything wrong with this discussion.
You're a fan, I'm a fan, or I'm an opponent. For crying out loud, can't we just talk?
Or can we not?
What do you think about trying to have a debate? Is it possible, or are we just gonna keep throwing arguments and going off the rails? 😛

Prika, on that other thread, you didn't respond to a single reasoned point I made. Not one. And when you did bother to reply, you'd pick one sentence out of a massive post and obsess over just that one tiny part. Who is supposed to have a conversation with someone like that?

Nathan Bailey65 said:[/I]

And you’re still acting like you’re "stabbing colleagues in the back"... 🤣

Honestly, you guys are such pushovers that I almost feel bad using the kind of language we usually reserve for the Football boards...🤣

Can you explain this...🤷

steeleagle70 said:It’d be fair if you guys didn't bring it here and just let the "regular" users deal with this part. I mean, I don't even see the politics mods hanging out here, right? I'm saying it's only fair, not saying it's against the rules or anything.

And honestly, I totally agree that moderation and those debates belong on your private board. It feels a bit off to "intrude" on this space. I know the politics mods had some issues with other mods before, but they didn't air that dirty laundry in public. It would be much better if the mods handled things with the admins privately instead of dragging it into this subforum.

Also, look, I’m not claiming the mods did this—I never said that. It’s always the users' fault anyway, right? What I’m saying is that some mods clearly knew what was coming but didn't step up in their own section. They even let some nasty personal insults fly at the admin for three whole hours while the mod was busy typing in that thread and waiting for the report.

Bottom line? The "prevention" was pretty weak.

Look, I’ve got respect for this group, and honestly, I wouldn't even be chiming in if we hadn't been called out in this thread. That's the only reason I'm even responding...😉

steeleagle70 said:It’d be fair if you guys didn't bring it here and just let the "regular" users deal with this part. I mean, I don't even see the politics mods hanging out here, right? I'm saying it's only fair, not saying it's against the rules or anything.

And honestly, I totally agree that moderation and those debates belong on your private board. It feels a bit off to "intrude" on this space. I know the politics mods had some issues with other mods before, but they didn't air that dirty laundry in public. It would be much better if the mods handled things with the admins privately instead of dragging it into this subforum.

Also, look, I’m not claiming the mods did this—I never said that. It’s always the users' fault anyway, right? What I’m saying is that some mods clearly knew what was coming but didn't step up in their own section. They even let some nasty personal insults fly at the admin for three whole hours while the mod was busy typing in that thread and waiting for the report.

Bottom line? The "prevention" was pretty weak.

Would it be fair if fans weren't allowed to post on threads about themselves? Like the 1.5 thread?
🙏

It's not made public, but you just "know," right? Has anyone actually mentioned pulling something out of their rear end?
Yeah, sounds like your buddy waiting for you: Somewhere our little universes touch when I think you might be sleeping. The satin rustles, the darkness stirs, and like a wave, you find yourself swept up...
and the satin has prepared it for you...

.:CliNt:. said:Where's the actual proof that Silver was spamming politics using their CliNt account?

Look, this forum drama is just a mirror of how they actually treat us in real life. If a few guys decide to make troll accounts just to mess with hypocrites who ban some people while letting others slide, then the mods on the Sports and FIFA boards are the ones responsible. To them, we're all just one big target...

In the real world, community leaders should kick hooligans out of their organizations. On a forum, the mods over on Sports and FIFA shouldn't let people from those sections get into beefs with the admins over in Politics...

They look at us like we're some marked group, all sharing the exact same views and behaviors, whether it's here on the board or out in the streets...

And all this nitpicking—digging through old PDF archives of chat logs that don't even matter just to hunt for "irregularities"—says way more about the people doing the digging than anyone else.

Bottom line: the fans just gave you another lesson. One lesson was about having arguments, and the second was about a level of trolling that some people just can't wrap their heads around... 👍

A little Azra to wrap things up... 🙂

how stupid you are
how arrogant you are, my dear
judging my feelings
how ugly you are
in your immaturity, my dear
exposed
furious
misunderstood
on your face, a great nothing celebrates
and even if you live a thousand years, you won't succeed
far from the truth
you are far from the truth...

granitecanyon4 said:Prika, on that other thread, you didn't respond to a single reasoned point I made. Not one. And when you did bother to reply, you'd pick one sentence out of a massive post and obsess over just that one tiny part. Who is supposed to have a conversation with someone like that?

Let’s be real: nobody owes anyone an explanation on this forum. This is a place to drop your thoughts and move on. Whether someone chooses to engage with your post or just ignore it is entirely up to them... it's secondary to the point.

If someone wants to dive deep, great. If they don't, that's their business too.

Anonymous said:Would it be fair if fans weren't allowed to post on threads about themselves? Like the 1.5 thread?
🙏

It's not made public, but you just "know," right? Has anyone actually mentioned pulling something out of their rear end?
Yeah, sounds like your buddy waiting for you: Somewhere our little universes touch when I think you might be sleeping. The satin rustles, the darkness stirs, and like a wave, you find yourself swept up...
and the satin has prepared it for you...

See, there you go. Now that I say you're being rude, you're getting all offended.
But honestly, you just lack some manners. Not much I can do if that's how you are, I guess. 🤷

Chloe White5 said:Can you explain this...🤷

Look, I’ve got respect for this group, and honestly, I wouldn't even be chiming in if we hadn't been called out in this thread. That's the only reason I'm even responding...😉

Sure, I could. But honestly? Why bother? You clearly aren't interested in hanging out or having a real conversation with me anyway, so what’s the point? 🙂

🤣

dustypuma5 said:See, there you go. Now that I say you're being rude, you're getting all offended.
But honestly, you just lack some manners. Not much I can do if that's how you are, I guess. 🤷

🙄

Nathan Bailey65 said:Let’s be real: nobody owes anyone an explanation on this forum. This is a place to drop your thoughts and move on. Whether someone chooses to engage with your post or just ignore it is entirely up to them... it's secondary to the point.

If someone wants to dive deep, great. If they don't, that's their business too.

I get that, but it’s just plain wrong to spend dozens of pages insisting on something, having someone dismantle your logic with actual facts, and then just ignoring it and doubling down like nothing happened🤷 or after dumping a mountain of posts acting like you're some genius, only for someone to lay out exactly why you're wrong... I mean, isn't there a basic level of decency where you should at least address it, right?

To me, that’s just straight-up trolling.

Nathan Bailey65 said:Let’s be real: nobody owes anyone an explanation on this forum. This is a place to drop your thoughts and move on. Whether someone chooses to engage with your post or just ignore it is entirely up to them... it's secondary to the point.

If someone wants to dive deep, great. If they don't, that's their business too.

So, what, this forum isn't actually meant for discussion, just for people to monologue at each other? You’ve got it completely wrong—comments are for news portals; forums are for actual debate. If you don't have the stomach for a real back-and-forth, maybe stick to the live chat threads or those mindless comment sections on CNN. Honestly, we should probably start penalizing people for dodging a well-argued post. ☕

Night, everyone. I guess like Winston Churchill used to say, "if everyone's against you, you're probably on the right track."
Glad this thread finally cleared things up for people... showed them what's actually going on and the kind of BS they'll have to deal with.
Hopefully it gets fixed soon so we can just move on. 🙂

Taylor Gonzalez79 said:So, what, this forum isn't actually meant for discussion, just for people to monologue at each other? You’ve got it completely wrong—comments are for news portals; forums are for actual debate. If you don't have the stomach for a real back-and-forth, maybe stick to the live chat threads or those mindless comment sections on CNN. Honestly, we should probably start penalizing people for dodging a well-argued post. ☕

And yet, here you are, proving how mistaken you are...

Think of the forum as a place where you walk in, take a seat in the audience, step up to the podium to start a thread, and then jump into the fray.
Now, some people will stand up and voice their opinion and move on, while others will argue with you until sunrise. You can stay in your seat and keep preaching regardless of the passersby, or you can engage, or you can just ignore them and keep going...

But there is absolutely nothing okay about grabbing someone by the sleeve and stubbornly demanding an answer. That’s just spamming, trolling, and all that nonsense...

It's basically just a virtual H. Park.. 😁

Nathan Bailey65 said:And yet, here you are, proving how mistaken you are...

Think of the forum as a place where you walk in, take a seat in the audience, step up to the podium to start a thread, and then jump into the fray.
Now, some people will stand up and voice their opinion and move on, while others will argue with you until sunrise. You can stay in your seat and keep preaching regardless of the passersby, or you can engage, or you can just ignore them and keep going...

But there is absolutely nothing okay about grabbing someone by the sleeve and stubbornly demanding an answer. That’s just spamming, trolling, and all that nonsense...

It's basically just a virtual H. Park.. 😁

Nah, you're reading them all wrong. They answered every single point made. But they’ll just keep dragging you along until you finally cave and agree with them. And that's not happening with me.

If someone writes five pages claiming there hasn't been any fan violence in NYC for ten years, and then I pull out FBI reports and a statement from a guy at the Department of Transportation saying he was shocked that after 11 years on the job, he actually saw a game where no buses were smashed, they still try to tell me I'm just trolling instead of using actual facts.🤷

But whatever, people can chase whatever nonsense they want.

Does the OP realize they just started a massive support group for people who aren't even in actual danger? All because some internet kids are supposedly "upset" with their virtual boss? Seriously, get a life! 🤷

This is such a textbook case of making a mountain out of a molehill. Next thing you know, we’ll be getting a detailed medical breakdown of someone's physical exam. Tactume, it's your turn—the clients are waiting 🙂

Nathan Bailey65 said:And yet, here you are, proving how mistaken you are...

Think of the forum as a place where you walk in, take a seat in the audience, step up to the podium to start a thread, and then jump into the fray.
Now, some people will stand up and voice their opinion and move on, while others will argue with you until sunrise. You can stay in your seat and keep preaching regardless of the passersby, or you can engage, or you can just ignore them and keep going...

But there is absolutely nothing okay about grabbing someone by the sleeve and stubbornly demanding an answer. That’s just spamming, trolling, and all that nonsense...

It's basically just a virtual H. Park.. 😁

This is textbook trolling...just shouting into the void regardless of the topic at hand....
I trimmed out all the fluff from your post...☕

Nathan Bailey65 said:And yet, here you are, proving how mistaken you are...

Think of the forum as a place where you walk in, take a seat in the audience, step up to the podium to start a thread, and then jump into the fray.
Now, some people will stand up and voice their opinion and move on, while others will argue with you until sunrise. You can stay in your seat and keep preaching regardless of the passersby, or you can engage, or you can just ignore them and keep going...

But there is absolutely nothing okay about grabbing someone by the sleeve and stubbornly demanding an answer. That’s just spamming, trolling, and all that nonsense...

It's basically just a virtual H. Park.. 😁

No, trolling is actually when someone ignores a logical dismantling of their fantasies and just keeps hammering away at the same point without ever offering a single counter-argument. It’s not an issue if someone drops their opinion in a single post—that much should be obvious.

Anonymous said:Does the OP realize they just started a massive support group for people who aren't even in actual danger? All because some internet kids are supposedly "upset" with their virtual boss? Seriously, get a life! 🤷

This is such a textbook case of making a mountain out of a molehill. Next thing you know, we’ll be getting a detailed medical breakdown of someone's physical exam. Tactume, it's your turn—the clients are waiting 🙂

The OP doesn't need to dodge anyone. I don't have any beef with anyone, and I definitely don't need special treatment. So yeah, I guess I don't see why I'd be backing out. 🤷

Anonymous said:This is textbook trolling...just shouting into the void regardless of the topic at hand....
I trimmed out all the fluff from your post...☕

No, no, we aren't going to play those games... twisting words, ripping them out of context, and trying to assign a completely different meaning to someone else's post based on a half-baked quote.
(On an American political forum, that's strictly against the rules 😉 )

It’s pretty clearly stated right there that they're off-topic...

I’ve been scrolling through these links where people are basically plotting how to clone accounts, figuring out what to say and who to target... and honestly, I don't have anything against it personally, but I just have to point out that it’s exactly this kind of stuff that got an entire massive thread—one with like 20,000 posts from three years ago on the off-topic board—wiped clean in an instant, which ended up getting a bunch of regular users banned for life. So, yeah, there's that, if you're wondering about how consistent the moderation rules actually are here.