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quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
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#21 ·
SPOILERS

Anthony Smith3 said:I didn't really see it as an action movie anyway, since there's barely any action... it's more like a thriller trying to make a point about the commercialization of healthcare and how much society relies on consultations. Sure... I'll admit the main point gets lost along the way and the movie has its flaws, including a pretty forced romance, but overall, I'm not exactly disappointed...

See, look, that scene where two characters fall into the belly of the ship and just slaughter about 20 other people? That kind of thing only works in a space action flick. But you're right, the movie jumps from that action vibe into some quasi-philosophical territory, then into surrealism, and so on. And I think that's the biggest issue. They just didn't know which genre they wanted to stay in, I guess.

Personally, my favorite part was when the characters were hooking up at the end while scanning their organs. But, man, it's so incompatible with everything else in the movie that it actually made it worse.

If this had been directed by Cronenberg (or maybe Lynch), and if they had used that final scene to drive the story home, we’d be looking at a masterpiece of the decade.

The way it is now? Just erase & rewind.
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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#22 ·
quietdriver3 said:SPOILERS

See, look, that scene where two characters fall into the belly of the ship and just slaughter about 20 other people? That kind of thing only works in a space action flick. But you're right, the movie jumps from that action vibe into some quasi-philosophical territory, then into surrealism, and so on. And I think that's the biggest issue. They just didn't know which genre they wanted to stay in, I guess.

Personally, my favorite part was when the characters were hooking up at the end while scanning their organs. But, man, it's so incompatible with everything else in the movie that it actually made it worse.

If this had been directed by Cronenberg (or maybe Lynch), and if they had used that final scene to drive the story home, we’d be looking at a masterpiece of the decade.

The way it is now? Just erase & rewind.

Alright, fine... that was one of only two action scenes in the entire movie (the other being the hammer stuff and whatever else happened in the hallway at the end)...but that was all the action we got. That’s why I say I don't see this primarily as an action movie, even if I'll be honest... I expected that, but I got something else instead. It was alright, but yeah, it could have been better... definitely.

Yeah... that scene was totally morbid and interesting at the same time... shot like a sex scene... my only gripe is how unrealistic it was. If I accidentally cut my finger, it hurts like hell... let alone something like that...
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
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#23 ·
SPOILER

Carl Flores28 said:What exactly did the writer get wrong about Schrödinger's cat?

Update: How can anyone even call this an action movie? Everything after his clash with Forrest is all in his head. All that action, the romance, all of it... he's just imagining it. It's his mental escape from a world where he was stuck between being alive and dead.

The whole Schrödinger thing is really just saying that the observer's presence changes the outcome. It’s not like there’s some mystical cat that’s somehow both dead and alive at once.

I mean, I get why they wanted to use that metaphor. But it feels a bit arrogant to twist the science just to force an emotional effect.

Carl Flores28 said:What exactly did the writer get wrong about Schrödinger's cat?

Update: How can anyone even call this an action movie? Everything after his clash with Forrest is all in his head. All that action, the romance, all of it... he's just imagining it. It's his mental escape from a world where he was stuck between being alive and dead.

And honestly, this is the worst part. That trope where a character realizes it was all just a dream is probably the biggest cliché in cinema history. I guess if you're going to use it, you really need a damn good reason to justify it.

Besides, I pretty much saw the ending coming during that early scene where Forrest mentions Judah and that device used to create dreams. It felt like they were trying way too hard to manufacture that retrospective "aha!" moment, but it was kind of pathetic... I remember thinking, "Please, please don't let this end up being a dream sequence."

But yeah, I guess my prayers went unanswered. 😢
Carl Flores28 Carl Flores28 Newcomer
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#24 ·
quietdriver3 said:SPOILER

The whole Schrödinger thing is really just saying that the observer's presence changes the outcome. It’s not like there’s some mystical cat that’s somehow both dead and alive at once.

I mean, I get why they wanted to use that metaphor. But it feels a bit arrogant to twist the science just to force an emotional effect.

And honestly, this is the worst part. That trope where a character realizes it was all just a dream is probably the biggest cliché in cinema history. I guess if you're going to use it, you really need a damn good reason to justify it.

Besides, I pretty much saw the ending coming during that early scene where Forrest mentions Judah and that device used to create dreams. It felt like they were trying way too hard to manufacture that retrospective "aha!" moment, but it was kind of pathetic... I remember thinking, "Please, please don't let this end up being a dream sequence."

But yeah, I guess my prayers went unanswered. 😢

As long as the observer is outside the system they're watching, they have to assume the system exists in every possible state. Until that box is opened, the cat is effectively both alive and dead because both states are equally probable. Only after the observer opens the box does the system settle into one state—and the observer's action is what actually determines if the cat is alive or dead.
I think the writer wanted to highlight that paradox, just like how Judah talks about it early in the film: "How can something be both alive and dead at the same time?" To me, that seems like one of the movie's core themes.

Look, we might not agree on how he pulled it off in the end, but hey, to each their own, right?👍
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
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#25 ·
Carl Flores28 said:As long as the observer is outside the system they're watching, they have to assume the system exists in every possible state. Until that box is opened, the cat is effectively both alive and dead because both states are equally probable. Only after the observer opens the box does the system settle into one state—and the observer's action is what actually determines if the cat is alive or dead.
I think the writer wanted to highlight that paradox, just like how Judah talks about it early in the film: "How can something be both alive and dead at the same time?" To me, that seems like one of the movie's core themes.

Look, we might not agree on how he pulled it off in the end, but hey, to each their own, right?👍

Well, if that's the case, I guess it might have been better if they just used Pinocchio as the analogy instead.😉
Carl Flores28 Carl Flores28 Newcomer
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#26 ·
quietdriver3 said:Well, if that's the case, I guess it might have been better if they just used Pinocchio as the analogy instead.😉

The big difference is that this is actual, proven physical reality surrounding us—it's how the world actually exists... which is a far cry from Pinocchio! 😉
neonorca26 neonorca26 Newcomer
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#27 ·
Hmm... The film is decent—plenty of intense gore, killings, and organ harvesting. 🙂
What truly unsettled me, however, was the bilingualism. On the highway signs—specifically at the tunnel entrance—the text appears first in English, then in Chinese characters below (I assume that's what it is, as I can't distinguish much between Japanese and Chinese script). There are also Chinese advertisements in downtown, Chinese characters on receipts, and Forest Whitaker—playing Jake—mentions a Chinese woman living next door... What kind of subconscious messages are they trying to send us? 😲
driftingmason7 driftingmason7 Active Member
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#28 ·
Does this flick have anything to do with the legendary Repo Man from 1984?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087995/

I found myself revisiting the 1984 classic just yesterday, only to stumble upon this thread and realize there’s a 2010 film sharing the exact same title—and apparently, it’s some kind of massive hit... 🙂
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#29 ·
Just the profession and the movie title..
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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#30 ·
David Price5 said:Just the profession and the movie title..

Even the title isn't the same; the original was Repo Man, while this new one is titled Repo Men.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#31 ·
I caught that over in the other thread :-D
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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#32 ·
David Price5 said:I caught that over in the other thread :-D

I'm doing the exact same thing just to look like I know what I'm talking about☕
driftingmason7 driftingmason7 Active Member
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#33 ·
There is a certain, albeit exhausting, merit to possessing a sharp intellect 😁
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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#34 ·
Smart had exactly one decent thought, and even that was a total disaster😁😁

http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/...sel-be-stupid/
Drew Sanders5 Drew Sanders5 Newcomer
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#35 ·
So, I finally sat down to watch that movie, and honestly? It was a total miss for me. 🤷
I couldn't even sit through the whole thing in one go—had to break it up into a few different sittings just to get through it.
feralorca82 feralorca82 Active Member
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#36 ·
Drew Sanders5 said:So, I finally sat down to watch that movie, and honestly? It was a total miss for me. 🤷
I couldn't even sit through the whole thing in one go—had to break it up into a few different sittings just to get through it.

Same here. Honestly, I don't think I've ever had to watch a movie in three separate chunks just to finish it. It was such a slog I had to pause halfway through and wait a few days just to find the nerve to see how it ended. What a joke.
I will say, the last thirty minutes actually held my interest. Too bad the first hour wasn't nearly as good. I expected way more from this. 😢
gentlebadger88 gentlebadger88 Active Member
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#37 ·
Just finished watching this movie and honestly... I hated it. Most of the runtime was actually decent—the plot was engaging, plenty of fights, action, and genuine tension... but then that ending hits. It completely nuked the whole experience for me. What a joke.
feralorca82 feralorca82 Active Member
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#38 ·
gentlebadger88 said:Just finished watching this movie and honestly... I hated it. Most of the runtime was actually decent—the plot was engaging, plenty of fights, action, and genuine tension... but then that ending hits. It completely nuked the whole experience for me. What a joke.

Personally, I thought the ending was actually the best part.🤷
And no, I'm not talking about the end credits.😂
granitehound19 granitehound19 Member
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#39 ·
I actually had a great time with it—honestly, I’d go as far as calling it very good.
Maybe the soundtrack just totally won me over since it's absolutely phenomenal...

7/10
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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#40 ·
granitehound19 said:I actually had a great time with it—honestly, I’d go as far as calling it very good.
Maybe the soundtrack just totally won me over since it's absolutely phenomenal...

7/10

For sure. The music selection caught me off guard in a good way...

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