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Jack Rodriguez7 Jack Rodriguez7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined May 2011
#41 ·
crimsonsailor7 said:If you actually took the time to read his post, you’d realize that the tiny snippet left up was the only part even remotely relevant to the topic... the rest was just a bunch of personal attacks on two other members, which I'm definitely not going to stand for. It’s not about playing favorites or anything like that, it's just that that kind of toxic behavior isn't allowed here, regardless of what my own opinions or thoughts might be. Your post got pulled because it was totally off-topic and you were nitpicking the moderation, and honestly, neither of those things belongs in that thread

Anyway, thanks for looking out for my expertise and making sure I stay helpful around here 😉

I could certainly agree that parts of that post were likely unprovoked jabs at some very helpful members, even if the core reasoning was quite compelling—personally, I wouldn't have hit delete. However, if you had truly read the post, you would see that you only excised the section where the user claims he was exonerated after colliding with a Ford on a main thoroughfare while merging from a side street. From what I can gather, some members here argue that right-of-way on a main road is absolute, no matter what infraction the driver on that road committed. Others contend there are instances where a verdict is handed down in favor of the driver on the side street. By editing the post, you left only the portion detailing the police procedure regarding right-of-way, while scrubbing the part where he asserts he was cleared by the court in that specific situation.
I hope you realize how much you’ve distorted the original content through your intervention, thereby steering the entire direction of the debate.
Actions like this cast doubt on your impartiality. When people come forward to share their lived experiences, it isn't your job to act as judge and jury to decide what is "true" or "false"; rather, the discussion itself should reveal who is talking nonsense and who is telling the truth. If we start filtering content this way, it’s logical to expect nothing but ad hominem attacks, bans, and people walking away from the forum instead of an actual debate. If that’s your ultimate goal, then you're right on track.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#42 ·
Jack Rodriguez7 said:I could certainly agree that parts of that post were likely unprovoked jabs at some very helpful members, even if the core reasoning was quite compelling—personally, I wouldn't have hit delete. However, if you had truly read the post, you would see that you only excised the section where the user claims he was exonerated after colliding with a Ford on a main thoroughfare while merging from a side street. From what I can gather, some members here argue that right-of-way on a main road is absolute, no matter what infraction the driver on that road committed. Others contend there are instances where a verdict is handed down in favor of the driver on the side street. By editing the post, you left only the portion detailing the police procedure regarding right-of-way, while scrubbing the part where he asserts he was cleared by the court in that specific situation.
I hope you realize how much you’ve distorted the original content through your intervention, thereby steering the entire direction of the debate.
Actions like this cast doubt on your impartiality. When people come forward to share their lived experiences, it isn't your job to act as judge and jury to decide what is "true" or "false"; rather, the discussion itself should reveal who is talking nonsense and who is telling the truth. If we start filtering content this way, it’s logical to expect nothing but ad hominem attacks, bans, and people walking away from the forum instead of an actual debate. If that’s your ultimate goal, then you're right on track.

If there had actually been some real thought put into the topic, it probably would've stayed up... but since he was just rambling about other forums, they went ahead and wiped it...

Jack Rodriguez7 said:I could certainly agree that parts of that post were likely unprovoked jabs at some very helpful members, even if the core reasoning was quite compelling—personally, I wouldn't have hit delete. However, if you had truly read the post, you would see that you only excised the section where the user claims he was exonerated after colliding with a Ford on a main thoroughfare while merging from a side street. From what I can gather, some members here argue that right-of-way on a main road is absolute, no matter what infraction the driver on that road committed. Others contend there are instances where a verdict is handed down in favor of the driver on the side street. By editing the post, you left only the portion detailing the police procedure regarding right-of-way, while scrubbing the part where he asserts he was cleared by the court in that specific situation.
I hope you realize how much you’ve distorted the original content through your intervention, thereby steering the entire direction of the debate.
Actions like this cast doubt on your impartiality. When people come forward to share their lived experiences, it isn't your job to act as judge and jury to decide what is "true" or "false"; rather, the discussion itself should reveal who is talking nonsense and who is telling the truth. If we start filtering content this way, it’s logical to expect nothing but ad hominem attacks, bans, and people walking away from the forum instead of an actual debate. If that’s your ultimate goal, then you're right on track.

Look, editing those posts wasn't about trying to steer the conversation or control what everyone was saying, it was honestly just about cleaning up the mess by getting rid of the trolls and people who were just being straight-up toxic toward other members... If the person involved still feels like they need to lay out their side of the drama one more time, nobody is stopping them, and we aren't going to touch anything that actually stays on topic...
Jack Rodriguez7 said:I could certainly agree that parts of that post were likely unprovoked jabs at some very helpful members, even if the core reasoning was quite compelling—personally, I wouldn't have hit delete. However, if you had truly read the post, you would see that you only excised the section where the user claims he was exonerated after colliding with a Ford on a main thoroughfare while merging from a side street. From what I can gather, some members here argue that right-of-way on a main road is absolute, no matter what infraction the driver on that road committed. Others contend there are instances where a verdict is handed down in favor of the driver on the side street. By editing the post, you left only the portion detailing the police procedure regarding right-of-way, while scrubbing the part where he asserts he was cleared by the court in that specific situation.
I hope you realize how much you’ve distorted the original content through your intervention, thereby steering the entire direction of the debate.
Actions like this cast doubt on your impartiality. When people come forward to share their lived experiences, it isn't your job to act as judge and jury to decide what is "true" or "false"; rather, the discussion itself should reveal who is talking nonsense and who is telling the truth. If we start filtering content this way, it’s logical to expect nothing but ad hominem attacks, bans, and people walking away from the forum instead of an actual debate. If that’s your ultimate goal, then you're right on track.

I never actually said whether what was being discussed was the truth or a lie in the first place... I mean, it makes zero sense to just start attacking people and throwing insults around, that’s honestly just what happens when people don't have any actual arguments to back up their points, which isn't really my problem to deal with... Posts like that aren't going to fly here, regardless of who they're aimed at...
Jack Rodriguez7 Jack Rodriguez7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined May 2011
#43 ·
I think it’s painfully obvious what my issue is here and why I decided to speak up. You didn't just scrub the off-topic fluff; you went ahead and sliced out parts that were actually central to the discussion. If you had just deleted subjective opinions, I wouldn't be saying anything. But you even wiped my post where I was calling out unprofessional behavior. Honestly, I wouldn't have even complained if you’d just pulled my post entirely—but choosing to edit it this way, while selectively restoring bits like the fact that the guy was acquitted despite the police report, feels incredibly biased.
To be clear, I wouldn't be chiming in if you had just deleted the whole thing, but editing it to suit a specific narrative like this? That’s just plain one-sided.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#44 ·
Look, I’m really not going to dig through that entire rambling paragraph just to pick out two redundant words... I honestly just can't bring myself to do it. It's a shame, but no. If he wants to just rewrite his post, nobody is stopping him, as long as he actually makes sense this time. You can think whatever you want about it, truly, but I have zero intention of trying to win you over or repeating everything I've already laid out ten times over...

Best, 😉
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#45 ·
hollowtinker18 said:It’s telling, honestly. I don’t even bother looking at the PDFs anymore—it's just too expensive, like paying for ten overpriced NFL games just to get red-carded. I truly feel like moderator Katrin uses inquisitorial tactics that have nothing to do with actually running a forum... so I haven't even had the heart to appeal (because when the judge is also the prosecutor, you might as well not show up)

That’s the truth right there. Every single time I’ve stuck my nose into that section, I’ve ended up getting burned for it myself. 🤣
If nothing else, you’d expect a simple warning. I mean, I started a thread without even realizing it had been categorized under a group topic... and well, I just took the hit. 🤣
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#46 ·
Maybe it would be a good idea to sketch out the rules and a list of topics before everything gets posted, just like we talked about earlier... 😁 And what, people aren't even using the search bar? No? Well, then you're just asking for trouble 😁
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#47 ·
I mean, I didn't see anything like that on the first two pages, and honestly, how am I supposed to know what belongs in a group thread when I only end up visiting that part of the site maybe once a year? 🙂

And you could probably take it easy just a little bit too, 😁
If I messed up—then move it, merge it, or whatever needs doing... the point is, you guys are where you are for a reason. You don't need to jump down my throat and slide into my DMs immediately over every little thing. 🤣
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#48 ·
I’m always trying to bridge the gap and smooth things over, but you’ve gotta realize I can’t exactly give a brand-new person joining the forum the same kind of leeway I’d give someone like you with 10k posts under your belt... At a certain level, people are expected to just figure things out on their own without immediately blowing up the board with a new thread.

Believe me, I really do try to play it cool 😁 but honestly, it usually just ends up backfiring on me 🙂
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#49 ·
crimsonsailor7 said:I’m always trying to bridge the gap and smooth things over, but you’ve gotta realize I can’t exactly give a brand-new person joining the forum the same kind of leeway I’d give someone like you with 10k posts under your belt... At a certain level, people are expected to just figure things out on their own without immediately blowing up the board with a new thread.

Believe me, I really do try to play it cool 😁 but honestly, it usually just ends up backfiring on me 🙂

Well, back then I didn't exactly have that much image

crimsonsailor7 said:I’m always trying to bridge the gap and smooth things over, but you’ve gotta realize I can’t exactly give a brand-new person joining the forum the same kind of leeway I’d give someone like you with 10k posts under your belt... At a certain level, people are expected to just figure things out on their own without immediately blowing up the board with a new thread.

Believe me, I really do try to play it cool 😁 but honestly, it usually just ends up backfiring on me 🙂

And I totally believe you on that one. 🤣
Amy Castillo4 Amy Castillo4 Active Member
72 messages
joined Dec 2011
#50 ·
Look, things need some level of order—obviously.

What really gets under my skin is when someone drops a super specific question—say, about a cable package subscription—and she just brushes them off with: "just scroll through the thread." But there are a million pages of junk there 🙄take the annual plan and deal with it🙂
or "just use the search bar"🤣

And honestly, what the hell am I supposed to type in there?😂

To wrap this up:
You aren't necessarily bad at this, you're just being too rigid—maybe just loosen up a bit and everything will be fine. It’s not like the server is going to crash if someone asks the same question more than once.
neondriver5 neondriver5 Active Member
116 messages
joined May 2017
#51 ·
I felt 🤣 a bit frustrated yesterday when she shut down that one thread, which is why I’m posting here instead. They moved the discussion from the Detroit section—where everyone was talking about driver's licenses and penalties—over to the Legal subforum, only for her to snap it shut in record time, like an Olympic sprinter, with that classic "this topic already exists" excuse.

I mean, no shit. It’s not the original poster's fault if they moved the whole conversation to a different part of the site, especially since we were just discussing Fords and how the police handle traffic stops.
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#52 ·
Amy Castillo4 said:Look, things need some level of order—obviously.

What really gets under my skin is when someone drops a super specific question—say, about a cable package subscription—and she just brushes them off with: "just scroll through the thread." But there are a million pages of junk there 🙄take the annual plan and deal with it🙂
or "just use the search bar"🤣

And honestly, what the hell am I supposed to type in there?😂

To wrap this up:
You aren't necessarily bad at this, you're just being too rigid—maybe just loosen up a bit and everything will be fine. It’s not like the server is going to crash if someone asks the same question more than once.

The issue isn't actually with the server. The real problem is that when someone posts under "Specific Questions," they’ve usually already been answered five times in the last ten pages. It’s just exhausting for those of us trying to help to keep repeating the exact same advice over and over again. I realize everyone feels like their particular situation is a unique crisis, but you really need to put in at least a modicum of effort to search for the answer yourself before you start whining.👍

neondriver5 said:I felt 🤣 a bit frustrated yesterday when she shut down that one thread, which is why I’m posting here instead. They moved the discussion from the Detroit section—where everyone was talking about driver's licenses and penalties—over to the Legal subforum, only for her to snap it shut in record time, like an Olympic sprinter, with that classic "this topic already exists" excuse.

I mean, no shit. It’s not the original poster's fault if they moved the whole conversation to a different part of the site, especially since we were just discussing Fords and how the police handle traffic stops.

Pri post u temi je: "I have a quick question regarding a ticket I just received. I was pulled over around 10:00 PM because I didn't have my ID on me. I went ahead and paid the fine immediately, but everyone I've spoken to since then is claiming that if this was my first offense, I should have just been given a warning instead of an actual citation. Is there any truth to that, or am I just being told what I want to hear?".👍

What does this have to do with the Detroit forum? Let me be clear: the fact that her friend didn't have her headlights on has absolutely zero bearing on her initial question. It isn't even the subject of this discussion; it's just being used as fodder for people looking to mock her.🙂

As for whether this thread actually belongs on the Legal Board, there’s already a dedicated section just for ID cards, not to mention the specific thread for filing formal disputes. Honestly, she shouldn't have even had to ask; if she’d bothered to scroll through just two or three pages, she would have found everything she was looking for right there.👍

For the most part, crimsonsailor7 absolutely rocks.😁
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#53 ·
Amy Castillo4 said:Look, things need some level of order—obviously.

What really gets under my skin is when someone drops a super specific question—say, about a cable package subscription—and she just brushes them off with: "just scroll through the thread." But there are a million pages of junk there 🙄take the annual plan and deal with it🙂
or "just use the search bar"🤣

And honestly, what the hell am I supposed to type in there?😂

To wrap this up:
You aren't necessarily bad at this, you're just being too rigid—maybe just loosen up a bit and everything will be fine. It’s not like the server is going to crash if someone asks the same question more than once.

Is every single option just worse than PBS? 😬

Brian Edwards6 said:The issue isn't actually with the server. The real problem is that when someone posts under "Specific Questions," they’ve usually already been answered five times in the last ten pages. It’s just exhausting for those of us trying to help to keep repeating the exact same advice over and over again. I realize everyone feels like their particular situation is a unique crisis, but you really need to put in at least a modicum of effort to search for the answer yourself before you start whining.👍

Pri post u temi je: "I have a quick question regarding a ticket I just received. I was pulled over around 10:00 PM because I didn't have my ID on me. I went ahead and paid the fine immediately, but everyone I've spoken to since then is claiming that if this was my first offense, I should have just been given a warning instead of an actual citation. Is there any truth to that, or am I just being told what I want to hear?".👍

What does this have to do with the Detroit forum? Let me be clear: the fact that her friend didn't have her headlights on has absolutely zero bearing on her initial question. It isn't even the subject of this discussion; it's just being used as fodder for people looking to mock her.🙂

As for whether this thread actually belongs on the Legal Board, there’s already a dedicated section just for ID cards, not to mention the specific thread for filing formal disputes. Honestly, she shouldn't have even had to ask; if she’d bothered to scroll through just two or three pages, she would have found everything she was looking for right there.👍

For the most part, crimsonsailor7 absolutely rocks.😁

She just registered, she's got a couple of posts, and it's pretty obvious she hasn't figured out how to navigate all the features this forum offers yet. 🤷

Even if that search tool is kind of questionable—I mean, try typing in something like "spider" 🤣 ...you'll end up pulling up every damn PDF on this site, from kids' toys and nature stuff to legal documents... 🤣
It's like what was said above regarding those long threads—just take a vacation and read through them. But no, she needs the answer in an hour. 🤣

Brian Edwards6 said:The issue isn't actually with the server. The real problem is that when someone posts under "Specific Questions," they’ve usually already been answered five times in the last ten pages. It’s just exhausting for those of us trying to help to keep repeating the exact same advice over and over again. I realize everyone feels like their particular situation is a unique crisis, but you really need to put in at least a modicum of effort to search for the answer yourself before you start whining.👍

Pri post u temi je: "I have a quick question regarding a ticket I just received. I was pulled over around 10:00 PM because I didn't have my ID on me. I went ahead and paid the fine immediately, but everyone I've spoken to since then is claiming that if this was my first offense, I should have just been given a warning instead of an actual citation. Is there any truth to that, or am I just being told what I want to hear?".👍

What does this have to do with the Detroit forum? Let me be clear: the fact that her friend didn't have her headlights on has absolutely zero bearing on her initial question. It isn't even the subject of this discussion; it's just being used as fodder for people looking to mock her.🙂

As for whether this thread actually belongs on the Legal Board, there’s already a dedicated section just for ID cards, not to mention the specific thread for filing formal disputes. Honestly, she shouldn't have even had to ask; if she’d bothered to scroll through just two or three pages, she would have found everything she was looking for right there.👍

For the most part, crimsonsailor7 absolutely rocks.😁

Oh, please, don't act like such a saint. 🤣
The point isn't about whether we're making fun of her or if she picked the right sub-forum, and nobody is attacking Katrina. We're just trying to reach a consensus so maybe people could use a little less attitude.😳😁

well, looking at your handle, it’s pretty obvious you take yourself a bit too seriously too... clearly😬
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#54 ·
hollowmason64 said:Is every single option just worse than PBS? 😬

She just registered, she's got a couple of posts, and it's pretty obvious she hasn't figured out how to navigate all the features this forum offers yet. 🤷

Even if that search tool is kind of questionable—I mean, try typing in something like "spider" 🤣 ...you'll end up pulling up every damn PDF on this site, from kids' toys and nature stuff to legal documents... 🤣
It's like what was said above regarding those long threads—just take a vacation and read through them. But no, she needs the answer in an hour. 🤣

Oh, please, don't act like such a saint. 🤣
The point isn't about whether we're making fun of her or if she picked the right sub-forum, and nobody is attacking Katrina. We're just trying to reach a consensus so maybe people could use a little less attitude.😳😁

well, looking at your handle, it’s pretty obvious you take yourself a bit too seriously too... clearly😬

The thing is, the search function actually has this awesome feature where you can search specifically through PDFs so you aren't sifting through the entire forum at once. 😍 Plus, you have the option to search within individual threads separately if you want to be precise. 🙂

If the built-in forum search isn't cutting it for you, don't forget there's a Google search bar right there in the top left corner of the forum—it works like a charm. 🥳
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#55 ·
hollowmason64 said:Is every single option just worse than PBS? 😬

She just registered, she's got a couple of posts, and it's pretty obvious she hasn't figured out how to navigate all the features this forum offers yet. 🤷

Even if that search tool is kind of questionable—I mean, try typing in something like "spider" 🤣 ...you'll end up pulling up every damn PDF on this site, from kids' toys and nature stuff to legal documents... 🤣
It's like what was said above regarding those long threads—just take a vacation and read through them. But no, she needs the answer in an hour. 🤣

Oh, please, don't act like such a saint. 🤣
The point isn't about whether we're making fun of her or if she picked the right sub-forum, and nobody is attacking Katrina. We're just trying to reach a consensus so maybe people could use a little less attitude.😳😁

well, looking at your handle, it’s pretty obvious you take yourself a bit too seriously too... clearly😬

Good grief, you all are going to ruin the only person left here with any actual backbone.🙂

hollowmason64 said:Is every single option just worse than PBS? 😬

She just registered, she's got a couple of posts, and it's pretty obvious she hasn't figured out how to navigate all the features this forum offers yet. 🤷

Even if that search tool is kind of questionable—I mean, try typing in something like "spider" 🤣 ...you'll end up pulling up every damn PDF on this site, from kids' toys and nature stuff to legal documents... 🤣
It's like what was said above regarding those long threads—just take a vacation and read through them. But no, she needs the answer in an hour. 🤣

Oh, please, don't act like such a saint. 🤣
The point isn't about whether we're making fun of her or if she picked the right sub-forum, and nobody is attacking Katrina. We're just trying to reach a consensus so maybe people could use a little less attitude.😳😁

well, looking at your handle, it’s pretty obvious you take yourself a bit too seriously too... clearly😬

I’m reporting this post.🙂 I took personal offense to that word "bit."😁
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#56 ·
hollowmason64 said:Well, back then I didn't exactly have that much image

And I totally believe you on that one. 🤣

Man, this is just too precious... talking about the emojis, I mean 😁

hollowmason64 said:Well, back then I didn't exactly have that much image

And I totally believe you on that one. 🤣

Thanks 😍

Amy Castillo4 said:Look, things need some level of order—obviously.

What really gets under my skin is when someone drops a super specific question—say, about a cable package subscription—and she just brushes them off with: "just scroll through the thread." But there are a million pages of junk there 🙄take the annual plan and deal with it🙂
or "just use the search bar"🤣

And honestly, what the hell am I supposed to type in there?😂

To wrap this up:
You aren't necessarily bad at this, you're just being too rigid—maybe just loosen up a bit and everything will be fine. It’s not like the server is going to crash if someone asks the same question more than once.

Nah, it won't crash, but everyone who actually hangs out here all the time gets pretty burned out having to answer the exact same thing a hundred times... especially when the answer is sitting right there just a few posts up 🙂

neondriver5 said:I felt 🤣 a bit frustrated yesterday when she shut down that one thread, which is why I’m posting here instead. They moved the discussion from the Detroit section—where everyone was talking about driver's licenses and penalties—over to the Legal subforum, only for her to snap it shut in record time, like an Olympic sprinter, with that classic "this topic already exists" excuse.

I mean, no shit. It’s not the original poster's fault if they moved the whole conversation to a different part of the site, especially since we were just discussing Fords and how the police handle traffic stops.

Look, there's already a thread for those kinds of questions and I put the link right there... we don't need two separate threads, and it’s also not helpful to merge a new thread into an old one when the question about personal penalties has already been answered a million times over. If people could just try to see the bigger picture once in a while, things would be a lot smoother for everyone... 😉

As for everything else, it's all been covered, especially regarding the search tool, which by the way, you can use within individual threads (just use the 'search this thread' option in the top right corner) and like rustydrifter10 mentioned, you can even search through specific PDFs...

So yeah, I think we've covered all the bases now? 🤔
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
373 messages
joined Sep 2010
#57 ·
rustydrifter10 said:The thing is, the search function actually has this awesome feature where you can search specifically through PDFs so you aren't sifting through the entire forum at once. 😍 Plus, you have the option to search within individual threads separately if you want to be precise. 🙂

If the built-in forum search isn't cutting it for you, don't forget there's a Google search bar right there in the top left corner of the forum—it works like a charm. 🥳

Excuse me, but I have to say this: 😬

Yeah, "wonderful" is one way to put it—I'd personally describe the current search function as "completely useless." Sure, using Google to search the forum is a step up, but you end up wading through ten pages of results that you have to sift through manually. And don't even get me started on searching within a single thread. 🤣

Look, those PDF topic lists are definitely helpful tools, but I feel like we're being way too harsh when someone gets penalized for posting a "duplicate" thread. A user shows up with a question, looking for a quick answer, and they're expected to dig through everything mentioned above? Honestly, they might as well head over to a university library and start researching from scratch. If a moderator sees a duplicate, just merge the thread or give them a nudge. We have plenty of mods around to help out. This isn't some intense FBI interrogation where you're being judged for a technicality or a procedural error... and then getting slapped with a strike on top of it. Just be a little more lenient. But hey, that's just my two cents.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#58 ·
It’s honestly such a bummer because it feels like around here we just focus on handing out punishments 😁 instead of actually connecting with people or giving them a heads-up first... It’s just frustrating, you know? Like, when someone rolls in with 5,000 or 10,000 posts under their belt, someone who’s opening their fourth or fifth thread in the Legal section asking "how do I dodge my cable bill," even though the massive thread about subscriptions is sitting right there on the front page and clearly visible in the topic list... it just shows they didn't put in even a shred of effort to check the FAQs or the pinned PDFs. There are plenty of users here who know exactly how to post in the right spot from day one, so I really expect at least that much basic courtesy from the veterans 🤷
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
373 messages
joined Sep 2010
#59 ·
crimsonsailor7 said:It’s honestly such a bummer because it feels like around here we just focus on handing out punishments 😁 instead of actually connecting with people or giving them a heads-up first... It’s just frustrating, you know? Like, when someone rolls in with 5,000 or 10,000 posts under their belt, someone who’s opening their fourth or fifth thread in the Legal section asking "how do I dodge my cable bill," even though the massive thread about subscriptions is sitting right there on the front page and clearly visible in the topic list... it just shows they didn't put in even a shred of effort to check the FAQs or the pinned PDFs. There are plenty of users here who know exactly how to post in the right spot from day one, so I really expect at least that much basic courtesy from the veterans 🤷

Oh, absolutely not. This isn't meant to be a rule; it's more of a general reflection on the idea of "search the threads, then the search bar, then Google, then the thread search" before getting banned. And honestly? All those search functions are pretty useless anyway, so why even suggest them as a solution? Sure, there are times when a thread is buried way too deep, but otherwise, relying on these massive group threads is just impractical. How are you supposed to find an answer if it was potentially buried on page 29,549? If the search tools actually worked... which they don't... it might be different. That's all I'm saying 😬
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#60 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:Excuse me, but I have to say this: 😬

Yeah, "wonderful" is one way to put it—I'd personally describe the current search function as "completely useless." Sure, using Google to search the forum is a step up, but you end up wading through ten pages of results that you have to sift through manually. And don't even get me started on searching within a single thread. 🤣

Look, those PDF topic lists are definitely helpful tools, but I feel like we're being way too harsh when someone gets penalized for posting a "duplicate" thread. A user shows up with a question, looking for a quick answer, and they're expected to dig through everything mentioned above? Honestly, they might as well head over to a university library and start researching from scratch. If a moderator sees a duplicate, just merge the thread or give them a nudge. We have plenty of mods around to help out. This isn't some intense FBI interrogation where you're being judged for a technicality or a procedural error... and then getting slapped with a strike on top of it. Just be a little more lenient. But hey, that's just my two cents.

I couldn't agree more. 🙂

Those topic indexes are honestly such a lifesaver, and most of the PDFs actually include them now. Plus, there’s really no need to go throwing out sanctions for minor slip-ups that can be fixed in two seconds, especially when nobody was actually trying to cause trouble or break the rules.

But if I could pivot to something else mentioned above that I find even more concerning, it’s this whole business of editing posts. In my opinion, a user's post should stay exactly as they wrote it, unless it's just some minor aesthetic cleanup—you know, fixing a broken quote or trimming down extra fluff in a citation. Aside from that, what a person writes should either be left entirely alone or the whole post should just be deleted. 🙂

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