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Participants Jerry King11Asteelskipper5boldhound8Morgan Hernandez5Gary Pateldriftinggull13redmarlin3silverjackalAlex Barnes8Benjamin Nelson8Linda Davis2Richard Perez3Drew MorganMegan White4Richard Collins5Nicholas Kingdustypuma5Linda Rodriguez38
silverjackal silverjackal Member
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#21 ·
Jerry King11 said:Apparently.

Take a look at this post, then compare it to my pathetic little thread. Then notice how they allow people to belittle and diagnose their interlocutors. (Check her signature, too. Philip Zeto removed his link.) Doesn't that seem a bit disproportionate to you? Doesn't the moderation feel biased (coming from the same circle of interest)? Regardless of what they think of me or my topics.

To them, I’m just a kitten.

And I’ll add Morgan Hernandez5's post to the pile, where she completely twists my words and draws nonsensical conclusions about essential oils and my motives. Totally biased. But that's not even the main point. The important part is her claim that I didn't report the controversial post, which is flat-out false. I reported it both via the icon and through a private message to the blue moderator.

Luis actually hit the nail on the head.☕
Gary Patel said:😍
Some girl I know from the Teens told me she saw you—honestly, I'm a little jealous!😢
And yeah, I think one moderator actually claimed that the mods on this PDF are untouchable. Personally? I'm all for implementing penalties for moderators. Now, I know—before you even say it—that some will argue most people like how things are run (but if "most" just means a handful of mods, then Gauss is probably turning in his grave), but letting this kind of stuff slide while that woman is still a moderator? That definitely doesn't sit right with the majority.
So, I’m voting for actual penalties for mods, or at the very least, letting them go—I mean, we're in a recession, you can always find an excuse to downsize! It's time to finally deal with the moderation issues over at Alternative. Because the MAJORITY does not agree with how this forum is being handled, and the whole structure needs a makeover before people start filing actual legal complaints and formal grievances. This isn't a threat or some subtle hint that I'm going to do it myself, but seriously—if you keep going like this, you won't last long. There are people out there ready to take action, and word is they already have (at least according to the rumors). Just some friendly advice. 😘

Gary Patel said:Mocking vegetarians in such a morbid way? That’s a bit much—isn't it?🤷
Look, I’ll lay it out plainly—if you want to keep a man, you have to satisfy him orally. It’s really that simple—it’s either that, or you're looking at smoking or a breakup. 😂😂

That’s just how you liberals play it—it's all a zero-sum game with you. If you want society to stay safe from total collapse, then you really ought to stop pushing for adoption rights. Because if you keep at it, those kids are going to end up just like you—gay—and we'll all be headed straight for the grave. That seems to be the choice you're offering us: either ban adoption entirely, or face extinction. That's the liberal way, isn't it?😂😂

Listen, folks—if you actually want to preserve our culture and ensure our heritage doesn't just fade away, then you’ve got to stop intermarrying with other races. Based on the statistics out there, the white population is shrinking, leaving behind nothing but mixed-race individuals.😂😂It’s essentially the same thing—either we're looking at the end of racial mixing or the disappearance of the white race altogether. 😂😂

Anything else?

So, am I getting banned or am I walking away scot-free as a moderator? Or maybe you’re going to hand me a strike for trolling and going off-topic? Honestly—not that I’ll actually go hunting for better examples up the thread, because that sounds like way too much work—but I could find them if I wanted to. But look, please don't tell me to stop "whining" or questioning what warrants a penalty—because if you do, I’ll just start mocking you. I'll take your post as direct evidence for why I shouldn't be punished, okay? So, thanks a million, sweetheart—now I have the perfect setup to poke fun at everyone else. You really have no idea HOW much you've helped me here.

what a guy 🤦
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
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#22 ·
Gary Patel said:😍
Some girl I know from the Teens told me she saw you—honestly, I'm a little jealous!😢
And yeah, I think one moderator actually claimed that the mods on this PDF are untouchable. Personally? I'm all for implementing penalties for moderators. Now, I know—before you even say it—that some will argue most people like how things are run (but if "most" just means a handful of mods, then Gauss is probably turning in his grave), but letting this kind of stuff slide while that woman is still a moderator? That definitely doesn't sit right with the majority.
So, I’m voting for actual penalties for mods, or at the very least, letting them go—I mean, we're in a recession, you can always find an excuse to downsize! It's time to finally deal with the moderation issues over at Alternative. Because the MAJORITY does not agree with how this forum is being handled, and the whole structure needs a makeover before people start filing actual legal complaints and formal grievances. This isn't a threat or some subtle hint that I'm going to do it myself, but seriously—if you keep going like this, you won't last long. There are people out there ready to take action, and word is they already have (at least according to the rumors). Just some friendly advice. 😘

🤷
Wait, who? And how would she even know it was me?
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#23 ·
I’m also wondering about the question in the title. I honestly have no idea what the point of this PŽK PDF even is.🙄
The moderators are just playing dumb, protecting their own, and calling it a day.
If that's the case, they should just delete it. Stop pretending.
For instance, I reported a blatant injustice to RiD. Benjamin Nelson8 played dumb for a few days, giving me answers that weren't really answers at all—she mostly just ignored my questions. Then, just now, Smart stepped in and locked the thread. So, first there's the ignoring, then the silencing.👎
What is even the point of this subforum then?!😕
That's why I'm asking: is there any way to actually report a moderator to someone else?
Benjamin Nelson8 Benjamin Nelson8 Active Member
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#24 ·
I haven't ignored a single one of your questions; I’ve answered every single thing you've thrown at me... if my answers aren't exactly what you wanted to hear, that's your problem, not mine.🙂
Linda Davis2 Linda Davis2 Member
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#25 ·
Alex Barnes8 said:I’m also wondering about the question in the title. I honestly have no idea what the point of this PŽK PDF even is.🙄
The moderators are just playing dumb, protecting their own, and calling it a day.
If that's the case, they should just delete it. Stop pretending.
For instance, I reported a blatant injustice to RiD. Benjamin Nelson8 played dumb for a few days, giving me answers that weren't really answers at all—she mostly just ignored my questions. Then, just now, Smart stepped in and locked the thread. So, first there's the ignoring, then the silencing.👎
What is even the point of this subforum then?!😕
That's why I'm asking: is there any way to actually report a moderator to someone else?

Get used to the fact that on this forum, might makes right...
And I don't mean just regarding this specific thread—I mean generally.
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#26 ·
Obviously.🙄 Now she’s just playing dumb, persistently.
And I won't even get into how Smart handles locking threads, acting all "sweetie, you'd better just stay quiet."🙄
Benjamin Nelson8 Benjamin Nelson8 Active Member
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#27 ·
And you’re back at it again, seeing things that aren't even there, while the mods just sit there acting like complete idiots 🙄
Linda Davis2 Linda Davis2 Member
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#28 ·
I wasn't referring to Benjamin Nelson8... no offense intended, Benjamin Nelson8.
But Nicole—look, if you have a problem with something, you really ought to just say what it is directly, rather than talking in these vague riddles.
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#29 ·
Benjamin Nelson8 said:And you’re back at it again, seeing things that aren't even there, while the mods just sit there acting like complete idiots 🙄

No, I’m not hallucinating. You all kept accusing and attacking me—I don't even know how many times I've had to say this—so maybe you're actually the ones having some kind of collective hallucination.🙄
Look, I truly believe—and I know I’m right, just like everyone else who read that thread back then—so now I'm just wondering if there's anyone actually more enlightened than you. I honestly don't have the energy to keep repeating myself.
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#30 ·
Linda Davis2 said:I wasn't referring to Benjamin Nelson8... no offense intended, Benjamin Nelson8.
But Nicole—look, if you have a problem with something, you really ought to just say what it is directly, rather than talking in these vague riddles.

Well, whenever I try to be direct, I just end up getting banned!
I’d suggest checking the thread yourself, but the moderator wiped everything that would make her or "her people" look bad. And the experts? They're just twisting things. It's easy when they all gang up on you.👎 Not to mention all the insults and lies.
Jerry King11 Jerry King11 Active MemberOP
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joined Apr 2010
#31 ·
Post from the controversial thread:

sinkezg said:Psychotic people aren't my type, just ignore them!

It wasn't censored, but instead (several weeks later), it was scrubbed to hide how certain "alternative" types and so-called "doctors" express themselves, and how their little lobby manipulates the moderation. Everywhere I try to cite it, I get an "invalid link." It’s effectively vanished, taking with it the very evidence I used to call out the moderators over at the Alternative PDF group.

In that specific thread, I was insulted by three people representing the interests of the Cedrus Center and protecting those self-proclaimed "aromatherapists." They are protected. The moderator is protected too. Naturally, it's the law of the jungle here, just like everywhere else—especially when you're operating behind a screen name on Reddit.
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#32 ·
Interesting, isn't it?
On Reddit, apparently everything is fair game except calling someone out for being a psychopath.
It’s funny how they won't penalize someone for acting like a total psycho, but the second you use that word to describe them, you're the problem. Even when it's the only accurate, decent way to label such behavior—and maybe the only way to actually stop it.
But I guess it doesn't matter. The moderator kept the posts claiming I was "being abusive" or "playing judge," while scrubbing my actual replies where I politely proved otherwise. She also wiped the posts where I straight-up asked her to handle the group harassment.
So, after this coordinated, dishonest (completely baseless)) attack on me, the narrative is just that I'm the aggressor and they're the victims. 🙄👎
Hard not to be frustrated, I suppose. 😠
Richard Perez3 Richard Perez3 Active Member
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#33 ·
Alex Barnes8, look, I wasn't trying to get involved in your business. I figured you were just pissed and would cool off, but since you won't let it go, I actually went back and checked pages 50 and 51 like you said I should, and here's what I found:

So, this was the post directed at you:

Hey, just chill out for a second.
I didn't call you out first, and I definitely wasn't attacking you.
You just felt targeted and jumped into my thread.
You don't need to overthink anything.
Maybe you just don't have the headspace right now to look at the big picture, because you're being all idealistic and biased, just charging in with your opinion. It seems like you've got plenty of energy for attacks and aggression, which usually means there's zero capacity for actual thinking—you're probably young, so I get it. Just try to relax and re-read the posts on this topic.

Look, I have nothing against you personally, so let's not fight.


And you respond with:

You aren't just crazy, you're twisted and rude. It's unbelievable how much you lie and twist everything. Stop insulting me and attacking me. Leave me alone.

That post of yours was deleted and scrubbed (which is honestly being pretty lenient given how you talk to people). If that post is your idea of "proving" you can be civil and respectful without insulting others, please, seriously, rethink the way you talk to people in a discussion.

Best,
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#34 ·
No, just look at her response in that post. And why do you think I said what I said? If it’s true, why shouldn't I call her out for being corrupt, rude, and twisting everything? I mean, isn't that how you say it? 🤷
I'm telling you, if you look at our posts, you'll see who was actually attacking whom. It wasn't just her, either. Kayla3, for instance, claimed I was "insulting everyone." Please, just try finding one single post where I insulted anyone before then.
As for my "polite" communication style... maybe go back and read my earliest posts and learn something.
But no, the worst part is that I was just telling the truth. 🙄
Look, it's not about the card; I don't even care about that.
It wouldn't have even bothered me if it were a fair 1-on-1 fight. This was just a group effort—constant lies and a coordinated attack on me. All with the moderator's support, of course.
Honestly, they sound like a cult. 😲
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#35 ·
One more thing: before I showed up, there were other women on this subreddit attacking them, and then suddenly everyone lumped me in with them too. Now, they just go after anyone who thinks—or even feels—differently. Is that really what a forum is supposed to be? Is this actually a discussion? I don't think so. It all started when Sanja began her attacks and kept calling me out just because I actually feel things for real. That was the response to my polite explanation, believe me.
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#36 ·
No, all five. I don't really get worked up about it. It just bothers me when someone is asked why they dislike something, or why they find it offensive, or why they feel threatened by it, and they just respond with, "I don't know, I just hate it, it's gross, that's just my opinion, I have a right to it"... blah blah blah. Just tell me WHY, for heaven's sake.

People constantly hide behind this supposed "right" to an opinion, but whether that opinion actually comes from any real thought... I guess that’s rarely the case. It’s just people tossing around empty cliches and judging anything that doesn't fit their narrow little rules.

My apologies, this is getting off topic... Ashman.

How does one even answer questions like that? How do you respond to "why do you feel that way?" To me, a question that stupid doesn't even deserve an actual response.
Why are you trying to police everyone? I guess you think you're in charge, but who exactly are you to demand an apology from anyone? Maybe I just feel like having a right to say when something bothers me.
Alex Barnes8

Is it really that hard to watch a mother feed her child? I guess you feel the need to broadcast that to everyone. Maybe just keep those kinds of insights for a private session at a therapist's office instead.
Precious x

Look, let's just be logical here. I guess it's hard to see what anyone would actually find problematic about this.
What kids eat these days? It's madness, I guess.
A few square centimeters of cleavage? Please. That’s just asking for trouble. Everywhere you look—billboards, newsstands, TV, even just walking down the street or hitting a beach club—it’s all much more explicit than that. Most people are showing way more than a tiny bit of skin these days.
A combination? Also, don't be an idiot. It’s just a perfectly natural mechanism and action that breasts were made for, regardless of what anyone thinks they exist for. Precious x

Maybe try getting some education, therapy, or just some actual life experience. Precious x

I guess you might need to apply for a permit here. Maybe.
I don't post much here, but certain headlines catch my eye. That whole "public breastfeeding" debate was everywhere in the news. And like I said before, that "public" includes all of us. So if people here are trying to convince me that I have some moral obligation to look away or squint while walking down the street, then I guess this topic does actually concern me, just like everyone else.
As for the whole pet situation, just go for it. I like dogs, and I’ve seen people talk about this stuff before. I think there were threads on Reddit and some old online forums too, but honestly, it was mostly just a bunch of negativity.
I haven't insulted anyone here, so you don't get to come at me either. If you want to play psychologist, go find someone else to lecture.

I don't know how to put this... It doesn't bother me seeing it happen in passing. I don't think it looks bad or anything. It’s just this strange sensation that comes from a woman sitting right there at the table, talking to me. Not because it’s repulsive or whatever, but it just feels... too intimate. I guess I can't explain it any better, but I'm sure others who aren't used to it feel the same way. It isn't about being "anti-breastfeeding" or "not understanding that a baby needs to eat." It's just that they aren't accustomed to it. That's why I insisted on the fact that this is all pretty new to us.
Alex Barnes8

She seems to have some intimacy issues, Precious x.

You just don't get it... I don't care if nothing is visible. I have no issue with seeing a nipple or an entire breast; I don't view that as immoral. It doesn't change my point that since it's natural, it could happen anywhere. I guess it's hard to define what exactly is unnatural and therefore requires privacy at home. I don't have any particular thoughts or feelings about nipples, either.
The act itself feels too intimate. Almost too much to even be present for, I guess.

If you aren't bothered by seeing a nipple or an entire breast—since you claim you have no issues with it—then I guess I have to ask: what exactly counts as "too intimate"? Is it just the fact that a baby is eating? It’s a natural process for such a little one. I don't see how someone watching a child eat could possibly find that intimate.

This is a perfect example of someone blindly defending a position without offering a single shred of actual logic—stuff that could be dismantled in ten seconds. I guess.

Keep going, please. This is actually pretty entertaining. Ashman

Why am I even bothering to tell breastfeeding moms this? I guess it’s just because I’ve seen how aggressively you all attack anyone who happens to be on the "other side" here.
I tried explaining the reasoning behind it. What I said about myself applies to plenty of others, too. But no, you all seem determined to just be negative toward those people.
Like I mentioned, I saw a segment on TV about this, and since there was so much coverage in the news lately, I figured I’d share my perspective. Why not? I didn't expect to get attacked like this.
Am I supposed to pretend I don't have the right to say when something bothers me? Alex Barnes8

I don't know why you're being so aggressive and worked up.

If something like breastfeeding disturbs you, maybe you aren't quite seeing the bigger picture. A mother who decides to nurse her child on a park bench or at a restaurant table probably has a good reason to FEED her baby. That reason might just be hunger, I guess.

Very young children don't really grasp it when you tell them they have to wait another thirty minutes until they get home to eat. They get restless, they start crying, and there's no point in making it harder. If moving a few inches of clothing to feed a hungry child for a couple of minutes stops an unpleasant situation, then that's what happens. Toddlers don't understand discipline or waiting.

I don't see why I should have some major life issue just because I feel uncomfortable with what I just described.

I'm not trying to psychoanalyze you, but I honestly think the shock you felt from seeing a woman nursing—which you emphasized in your earlier posts—might stem from some strange circumstances in how you were raised.

Or maybe you just exaggerated the whole "shock" thing to make a point because you lacked better arguments.

Just a reminder: you're participating in a discussion on Reddit. So, acting like "who am I to correct you?" or "who are you to lecture me?" is pretty ridiculous, honestly.

Why?

Because this is a Reddit thread that you chose to join to share your reasons and opinions. You're protesting the very thing you decided to participate in. Ashman

EXCUSE ME?!
Do you even see the difference between asking a question and lecturing someone? Between expressing an opinion and forcing one on others?
You were the one who attacked me first, just because of how I feel. Sorry, but I don't know any communication more aggressive than that.
And why should I spend my whole day overthinking why something bothers me? As if being bothered means I'm crazy. Or like I need to run to a psychiatrist immediately to fix it so I can live a blissful life where nothing ever bugs me.
You say when people ask why something bothers them, they just answer, "I don't know, it just does." And you're surprised by that? I guess that surprise is actually kind of stupid. I don't know what answers you're expecting. Are we all supposed to rush to a therapist and submit a report to you?!
It seems, again, you're getting aggressive.
And I think you need to be reminded that this is Reddit, a place for discussion.
I was just expressing my opinion and feelings, but you attacked me with "by what right?" Alex Barnes8

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Alex Barnes8 says:
EXCUSE ME?! ..... and then all that aggressive stuff...
Honey, maybe just calm down for a second.
I wasn't the first one to address you or attack you.
You felt called out and reacted to my post.
You don't ever have to overthink anything.
Maybe you just don't have the capacity for nuanced thought right now, since you're aggressively pushing your view through sheer idealism. It seems you have the capacity for attacks and aggression, which usually goes hand-in-hand with a lack of reflection. You're likely young, so I get it. Try to calm down and reread the posts in this thread.

I have nothing against you, so let's not fight. Ashman

Then why is there even a topic open for discussion regarding public breastfeeding? They should just close it so nobody is allowed to have an opinion.
Come on, you're overreacting. Is anyone actually out there attacking a breastfeeding mother just for doing that? Or making threats or anything like that...
And what, now a person isn't even allowed to feel uncomfortable? Seriously. If someone said they didn't care, I guess someone else would just jump in to tell them they aren't even allowed to be indifferent, Manch
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Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#37 ·
I guess we could try counting all the personal attacks and insults thrown around here—if anyone even keeps track of that anymore. But honestly, who cares... 👎
It’s pretty obvious. My posts get hit with nothing but aggression, while they act like they're being perfectly sweet and innocent. 🙄
This is just the part directed at me. It seems like anyone who dared to have an opinion different from "theirs" had to deal with this exact same treatment. Even nursing mothers were targeted, just because they were told to calm down and start attacking people for no reason. If you look at the threads involving stefy, manch, chloe, katarinaos... you'll see it. And believe me, there were plenty of "leave me alone" comments too.
It's like they have some sort of pact: "The moment someone speaks up against breastfeeding in public, we all gang up and drive them away."
I'm not being paranoid; it really is that intense. They attack so aggressively. You can't even voice a dissenting opinion without getting shut down. Is this really how things are supposed to work on a discussion board? 😕
It's almost as if the whole family gathered on one PDF to aggressively push their own agenda under the guise of a debate.
Look, this is Reddit, where people are meant to discuss things. The family can go find their own private forum. ☕
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#38 ·
Since I'm already here, let me clarify the last bit of this
That "innocent" comment from Ashman you quoted.
My post right before hers was just "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! everything is aggressive blah blah."

Could you please tell me what exactly about my post was "aggressive blah blah"?
And I didn't feel "called out," I actually was called out. She targeted me directly by quoting my own words.
As for her insults about me lacking the mental capacity for complex thought while she supposedly possesses it... I won't even bother commenting. Not to mention how she uses whatever intellect she actually has. And as for jumping straight to accusations of aggression and "defending an opinion," she and all her little supporters said it all.
Besides, looking at her other posts, it's always "let's not fight." Right after she attacks someone and starts the argument herself...
Drew Morgan Drew Morgan Active Member
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joined Aug 2009
#39 ·
Jerry King11 said:Me? Is it just me, or does nobody actually know how to report a moderator? 😕
So, let me get this straight—you should never, ever challenge a moderator’s take because their word is final and they’re basically above the law?! 🙄(Especially if they happen to belong to the same clique. 🙄) In other words, is it perfectly fine for users to belittle you without consequence, while the Reddit rules just become optional whenever it suits them???

Yes, you hit the nail right on the head. You've only got 110 posts and you've already figured it out. Bravo. 👍
Megan White4 Megan White4 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#40 ·
Linda Davis2 said:Get used to the fact that on this forum, might makes right...
And I don't mean just regarding this specific thread—I mean generally.

It isn't "might makes right." It's more like the rule of the weak, who are all too eager to suck up to whoever has influence until it becomes the trend. You don't see someone's true colors until you actually hand them a shred of authority. ☕

Worst of all, we can complain about how the moderators act until we're blue in the face, but nothing ever changes. If you push back, you're labeled an "anti-community" element, and then comes the wave of warnings, bans, and deleted posts... ☕

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