How do I report a moderator?

Exactly. I can't seem to get a straight answer to any of my questions.
The moderator, smart, just swooped back in to cherry-pick page 51 while "accidentally" ignoring page 50, just to dig at me a bit more. I’m not an idiot.
I don't understand why they won't just admit they messed up.
What I posted here is just a small snippet—barely scratching the surface. There's way too much insults, lying, and pure malice for me to just let it slide. I don't see why I should overlook a mountain of issues that probably warrant a suspension or even a permanent ban. A lot of posts have definitely been wiped. When you realize how many of their own posts were deleted, it shows you just how much was going on. It feels like they're just venting because I'm not part of their inner circle.
If this keeps up, the whole site will lose its purpose.
Anyway, we still haven't heard anything: Where do I file a formal complaint against a moderator? 😁

Look, it looks like they’re about to spin up a whole new department soon, so you might want to give that a shot over there.

Go ahead and mess around if you want.
I probably wouldn't be this annoyed if they hadn't overstepped every single boundary... but there's a limit, I guess.

Alex Barnes8 said:Exactly. I can't seem to get a straight answer to any of my questions.
The moderator, smart, just swooped back in to cherry-pick page 51 while "accidentally" ignoring page 50, just to dig at me a bit more. I’m not an idiot.
I don't understand why they won't just admit they messed up.
What I posted here is just a small snippet—barely scratching the surface. There's way too much insults, lying, and pure malice for me to just let it slide. I don't see why I should overlook a mountain of issues that probably warrant a suspension or even a permanent ban. A lot of posts have definitely been wiped. When you realize how many of their own posts were deleted, it shows you just how much was going on. It feels like they're just venting because I'm not part of their inner circle.
If this keeps up, the whole site will lose its purpose.
Anyway, we still haven't heard anything: Where do I file a formal complaint against a moderator? 😁

Man, as if it ever actually had one.☕
Once you finally wrap your head around that, life gets a whole lot easier.😁

Is this it?
I honestly thought the point was to have an actual conversation—you know, just exchanging ideas and experiences.
But apparently not. It's more like: "He thinks differently! Get him! Actually, just kick him out! Get lost!"
And then there’s the moderator insults: "I see you lack the mental capacity" (which seems to be their favorite line) and that arrogant assumption that they're somehow superior to everyone else. 🤣🤣🤣
🙂

Alex Barnes8 said:Is this it?
I honestly thought the point was to have an actual conversation—you know, just exchanging ideas and experiences.
But apparently not. It's more like: "He thinks differently! Get him! Actually, just kick him out! Get lost!"
And then there’s the moderator insults: "I see you lack the mental capacity" (which seems to be their favorite line) and that arrogant assumption that they're somehow superior to everyone else. 🤣🤣🤣
🙂

Well, you're mistaken. The answer is 42, obviously. 😁

I can certainly empathize—well, if I actually had the time or the inclination, which I don't—with the frustration regarding certain moderators and their specific styles of oversight, but I truly fail to see the logic behind demanding a particular set of forum policies. It’s almost as if I missed the memo where this place started selling off shares and suddenly everyone thinks they have a say in how to manage their own equity.

It’s like walking into a theater of your own volition and telling the lady in the front row, "Hey, enough with the screaming, why don't we listen to that Halliday track instead?" (or conversely, showing up to a Hallid set and demanding "Nessun dorma").

Nicholas King said:Well, you're mistaken. The answer is 42, obviously. 😁

I can certainly empathize—well, if I actually had the time or the inclination, which I don't—with the frustration regarding certain moderators and their specific styles of oversight, but I truly fail to see the logic behind demanding a particular set of forum policies. It’s almost as if I missed the memo where this place started selling off shares and suddenly everyone thinks they have a say in how to manage their own equity.

It’s like walking into a theater of your own volition and telling the lady in the front row, "Hey, enough with the screaming, why don't we listen to that Halliday track instead?" (or conversely, showing up to a Hallid set and demanding "Nessun dorma").

Look, you guys are wrong. I guess.
So, you go to the theater to buy a service, right? You see the ads and the promos, and that's what you're buying—the vibe they sold you. If you feel like you got ripped off or the show wasn't even close to what was advertised, I guess there's consumer protection laws for that. You can totally go after them for your money back if they lied about what they were offering.
I guess it doesn't really matter who's sitting in the audience when it comes to the theater. Maybe.
Probably not meant for this forum, I guess.

A forum's supposed to be for debating, you know? Like everyone gets a seat at the table and their input actually matters because people respond to it. In a theater, you're just sitting there watching, but here... I guess you're an actual participant.

So, how do we even make this place normal again? I guess.
I don't know. I just know that I am. Maybe I should just ask for a permanent ban. I guess. If I've been a member of this Reddit community for this long and they still treat me like total trash, then I guess I'm done with this place. Maybe I just won't be part of this forum anymore.

They didn't listen to what I wanted, so whatever. I guess I'll just start following all those subreddit rules so they're forced to actually deal with me.

Mod is hit or miss on some subreddits, I guess. Some are better, some just suck.
I mean, some people just do that stuff to feed their own massive egos and deal with their pathetic little issues, I guess.

I guess it's just typical that nobody at PZK actually bothers to answer anyone when they file a complaint. Makes you wonder why PZK even exists at this point.
I mean, if we're just gonna follow whatever arbitrary rules the admins cook up, and any attempt to complain just gets met with that "this is a private forum and we run the show" attitude, then what's even the point of this sub?
Just shut it down already. Like, just make one post telling everyone the rules and asking who actually wants to join.

This whole site is just a bunch of random posts from people, and I guess some of them have been modding it for ages. Back in the day, they actually used to post about users, or maybe respond to complaints—doesn't really matter if it was good or bad.
There’s zero moderation left. No one to step in and cut through the crap anymore. I guess... when was the last time an admin even posted here?
Moderators stick together because they’re basically protecting their own interests, I guess. But if they actually upheld just one single appeal—like, if they admitted someone from "their side" actually messed up—then all those other rejected appeals would actually mean something. At least then you'd know someone's actually looking at them.

This story's been dragged through the mud a million times already. I guess this thread won't bring anything new to the table either.

So, what happened to my request to just get perma-banned? I guess nobody even bothered to check why I was asking. They just shut down the thread and moved on. Whatever.
I mean, we can, I guess... but for how long?

Nicholas King said:Well, you're mistaken. The answer is 42, obviously. 😁

I can certainly empathize—well, if I actually had the time or the inclination, which I don't—with the frustration regarding certain moderators and their specific styles of oversight, but I truly fail to see the logic behind demanding a particular set of forum policies. It’s almost as if I missed the memo where this place started selling off shares and suddenly everyone thinks they have a say in how to manage their own equity.

It’s like walking into a theater of your own volition and telling the lady in the front row, "Hey, enough with the screaming, why don't we listen to that Halliday track instead?" (or conversely, showing up to a Hallid set and demanding "Nessun dorma").

I don't think that comparison really holds water. They aren't actually related, I guess. Maybe you should rethink it.
As for those questions like "why is someone asking," "why is there a complaint," or "why is someone telling the truth"... I guess the answer is pretty simple: "Why not?"
It’s just typical cowardice, passing the buck like that. It seems easier to attack someone who hasn't done anything wrong just because they asked a question. I guess it's simpler to play psychoanalyst than to actually look for an answer together and just tell the person responsible that they're at fault. Maybe.
Of course. It’s because you need one thing for the second part that isn't required for the first. I guess.
I've run into this several times now on Reddit—getting attacked or accused just for asking a question. People keep hitting me with that "Why are you even asking that?" line, constantly trying to police my posts. It’s like you aren't allowed to ask anything, let alone start a discussion. I guess that isn't really what a forum is for, is it? 😕
Then they can just claim the forums are run by cults and special interest groups that silence anyone who asks too many questions. I guess.
I'm not being paranoid or dramatic. I guess some things have happened that can only be explained one way.

dustypuma5 said:Look, you guys are wrong. I guess.
So, you go to the theater to buy a service, right? You see the ads and the promos, and that's what you're buying—the vibe they sold you. If you feel like you got ripped off or the show wasn't even close to what was advertised, I guess there's consumer protection laws for that. You can totally go after them for your money back if they lied about what they were offering.
I guess it doesn't really matter who's sitting in the audience when it comes to the theater. Maybe.
Probably not meant for this forum, I guess.

A forum's supposed to be for debating, you know? Like everyone gets a seat at the table and their input actually matters because people respond to it. In a theater, you're just sitting there watching, but here... I guess you're an actual participant.

So, how do we even make this place normal again? I guess.
I don't know. I just know that I am. Maybe I should just ask for a permanent ban. I guess. If I've been a member of this Reddit community for this long and they still treat me like total trash, then I guess I'm done with this place. Maybe I just won't be part of this forum anymore.

They didn't listen to what I wanted, so whatever. I guess I'll just start following all those subreddit rules so they're forced to actually deal with me.

Mod is hit or miss on some subreddits, I guess. Some are better, some just suck.
I mean, some people just do that stuff to feed their own massive egos and deal with their pathetic little issues, I guess.

I guess it's just typical that nobody at PZK actually bothers to answer anyone when they file a complaint. Makes you wonder why PZK even exists at this point.
I mean, if we're just gonna follow whatever arbitrary rules the admins cook up, and any attempt to complain just gets met with that "this is a private forum and we run the show" attitude, then what's even the point of this sub?
Just shut it down already. Like, just make one post telling everyone the rules and asking who actually wants to join.

This whole site is just a bunch of random posts from people, and I guess some of them have been modding it for ages. Back in the day, they actually used to post about users, or maybe respond to complaints—doesn't really matter if it was good or bad.
There’s zero moderation left. No one to step in and cut through the crap anymore. I guess... when was the last time an admin even posted here?
Moderators stick together because they’re basically protecting their own interests, I guess. But if they actually upheld just one single appeal—like, if they admitted someone from "their side" actually messed up—then all those other rejected appeals would actually mean something. At least then you'd know someone's actually looking at them.

This story's been dragged through the mud a million times already. I guess this thread won't bring anything new to the table either.

So, what happened to my request to just get perma-banned? I guess nobody even bothered to check why I was asking. They just shut down the thread and moved on. Whatever.
I mean, we can, I guess... but for how long?

Everything you’re describing might hold water in some utopian version of Reddit where the houses are made of gingerbread—but, let me just point out one little detail here:

"Reddit is the private property of the Pew Research Center."

What kind of "shares" are you even talking about??? Private property—does that ring a bell? A forum is, at its very core, designed so that the owners can turn a profit. Everything else is just "setting the table for the first ten guests." If the owners miscalculate their business model, there are plenty of other forums in this world; if there are no users, there is no money, and that’s the end of the story.

For all those romanticized visions of yours, there is a simple solution: who is stopping you/all of you from starting the forum of all forums based on equality, justice, and fairness?

Alex Barnes8 said:I don't think that comparison really holds water. They aren't actually related, I guess. Maybe you should rethink it.
As for those questions like "why is someone asking," "why is there a complaint," or "why is someone telling the truth"... I guess the answer is pretty simple: "Why not?"
It’s just typical cowardice, passing the buck like that. It seems easier to attack someone who hasn't done anything wrong just because they asked a question. I guess it's simpler to play psychoanalyst than to actually look for an answer together and just tell the person responsible that they're at fault. Maybe.
Of course. It’s because you need one thing for the second part that isn't required for the first. I guess.
I've run into this several times now on Reddit—getting attacked or accused just for asking a question. People keep hitting me with that "Why are you even asking that?" line, constantly trying to police my posts. It’s like you aren't allowed to ask anything, let alone start a discussion. I guess that isn't really what a forum is for, is it? 😕
Then they can just claim the forums are run by cults and special interest groups that silence anyone who asks too many questions. I guess.
I'm not being paranoid or dramatic. I guess some things have happened that can only be explained one way.

And you're coming at me? Honestly, bless your heart—where exactly am I attacking you? Because, frankly, I don't see it—not one bit.

Nicholas King said:Everything you’re describing might hold water in some utopian version of Reddit where the houses are made of gingerbread—but, let me just point out one little detail here:

"Reddit is the private property of the Pew Research Center."

What kind of "shares" are you even talking about??? Private property—does that ring a bell? A forum is, at its very core, designed so that the owners can turn a profit. Everything else is just "setting the table for the first ten guests." If the owners miscalculate their business model, there are plenty of other forums in this world; if there are no users, there is no money, and that’s the end of the story.

For all those romanticized visions of yours, there is a simple solution: who is stopping you/all of you from starting the forum of all forums based on equality, justice, and fairness?

you know what's best.
You're right about that.
I remember when it was just pure vibes and nothing else here.
Back then, there wasn't even any drama; people didn't join this thing for romance. I used to just listen to The One on my own.

I used to buy into that Reddit nonsense, but I grew out of it long ago.
And honestly, I don't have an issue with seeing things as they really are. Whatever...
But look, man, you've got people who just accept how things are, and then you've got people like me who complain and try to change stuff.
I guess I'm just the second type. And honestly, it looks like nothing can be changed this time, which led to the decision I laid out in that thread I linked you.

Anyway, check the link at the bottom of the page: Forum Leads.

There's the list of mods and admins.
It’s funny how nobody noticed that the only active admin right now is Dessira—who, by the way, I think is awesome and would be great at running a site with those "romantic visions" I mentioned, but she just can't show her talent here because of too many things.
Right now, the forum basically has no administration; it's just a bunch of rogue moderators with no one above them...

Edit:
Oh yeah, you and I are both stakeholders in this whole mess. And we stay that way until someone decides to wipe our posts.
If you can't wrap your head around that, then sorry, but you just don't get how a forum works. It only exists because people participate, without them, it's nothing.

dustypuma5 said:you know what's best.
You're right about that.
I remember when it was just pure vibes and nothing else here.
Back then, there wasn't even any drama; people didn't join this thing for romance. I used to just listen to The One on my own.

I used to buy into that Reddit nonsense, but I grew out of it long ago.
And honestly, I don't have an issue with seeing things as they really are. Whatever...
But look, man, you've got people who just accept how things are, and then you've got people like me who complain and try to change stuff.
I guess I'm just the second type. And honestly, it looks like nothing can be changed this time, which led to the decision I laid out in that thread I linked you.

Anyway, check the link at the bottom of the page: Forum Leads.

There's the list of mods and admins.
It’s funny how nobody noticed that the only active admin right now is Dessira—who, by the way, I think is awesome and would be great at running a site with those "romantic visions" I mentioned, but she just can't show her talent here because of too many things.
Right now, the forum basically has no administration; it's just a bunch of rogue moderators with no one above them...

Edit:
Oh yeah, you and I are both stakeholders in this whole mess. And we stay that way until someone decides to wipe our posts.
If you can't wrap your head around that, then sorry, but you just don't get how a forum works. It only exists because people participate, without them, it's nothing.

I’d say the concept of being a "stakeholder" is tripping you up a bit. 🙂

Strictly speaking, everything you write belongs to Reddit—formally, there is absolutely no such thing as "shareholding" here (in the sense of gaining any actual "equity rights" simply by posting on a message board). A much more accurate term would be volunteering—you write because you enjoy it, and that's really it.

The only effective way to effect "change" isn't by lamenting some supposed tragic state of affairs, but rather by attempting to build a critical mass of dissatisfied users—or perhaps by stirring up discontent among the "top-tier contributors" who actually drive the quality and volume of this site. So, if you truly believe that's a viable strategy...

Nicholas King said:I’d say the concept of being a "stakeholder" is tripping you up a bit. 🙂

Strictly speaking, everything you write belongs to Reddit—formally, there is absolutely no such thing as "shareholding" here (in the sense of gaining any actual "equity rights" simply by posting on a message board). A much more accurate term would be volunteering—you write because you enjoy it, and that's really it.

The only effective way to effect "change" isn't by lamenting some supposed tragic state of affairs, but rather by attempting to build a critical mass of dissatisfied users—or perhaps by stirring up discontent among the "top-tier contributors" who actually drive the quality and volume of this site. So, if you truly believe that's a viable strategy...

Yeah, legally it's crystal clear. But for this to actually become my property, I'd have to agree to some kind of deal first. As long as I still have that leverage, I can choose not to be part of it.
Don't hit me with legal stuff, I guess. Like you noticed, it's more of a romantic thing for me.

There just isn't a way to change things. I don't see one. There used to be users where, when they posted on PZK, people actually respected them. You could debate an issue. And sometimes, just sometimes, things would actually change. You felt like things could move.
Not anymore, though. Sadly.

The only constant is that the site is always crashing...

Nicholas King said:And you're coming at me? Honestly, bless your heart—where exactly am I attacking you? Because, frankly, I don't see it—not one bit.

No, I wasn't talking about you. I meant that I've been attacked multiple times just for asking a question. Get it now?
Maybe calling it an immediate attack is a bit much in some cases, but people just assume I have bad intentions or something... Like they felt threatened. And then it actually turned into an attack. I was just asking a normal question, I guess. 🤷
And, you poor thing, why are you defending them so much?🙄

Alex Barnes8 said:No, I wasn't talking about you. I meant that I've been attacked multiple times just for asking a question. Get it now?
Maybe calling it an immediate attack is a bit much in some cases, but people just assume I have bad intentions or something... Like they felt threatened. And then it actually turned into an attack. I was just asking a normal question, I guess. 🤷
And, you poor thing, why are you defending them so much?🙄

Now that you’ve finally gotten comfortable enough to let me throw a few sentences your way regarding "for the sake of it, but why else?"—specifically concerning the general conspiracy against free-spirited forum users—I suppose I should be grateful; maybe, if I were lucky, you'd actually take me seriously for once. 🙂

Why are you so incredibly stuck in that rigid, binary way of thinking—that constant obsession with "defense versus offense," that "if you aren't with us, you're against us" mentality, and that tired old fallacy where if you don't support Marshall, then you must somehow be a fan of Hitler?

What I wrote there were nothing more than elementary facts—not a single value judgment to be found. It’s honestly a bit much—it’s like I’m stating that 2+2=4, and yet you have the audacity to suggest I need a PhD in mathematics just to grasp the basics.

And then they had the nerve to lecture me—really, they did—about how I take this forum far too seriously... ☕

Nicholas King said:Now that you’ve finally gotten comfortable enough to let me throw a few sentences your way regarding "for the sake of it, but why else?"—specifically concerning the general conspiracy against free-spirited forum users—I suppose I should be grateful; maybe, if I were lucky, you'd actually take me seriously for once. 🙂

Why are you so incredibly stuck in that rigid, binary way of thinking—that constant obsession with "defense versus offense," that "if you aren't with us, you're against us" mentality, and that tired old fallacy where if you don't support Marshall, then you must somehow be a fan of Hitler?

What I wrote there were nothing more than elementary facts—not a single value judgment to be found. It’s honestly a bit much—it’s like I’m stating that 2+2=4, and yet you have the audacity to suggest I need a PhD in mathematics just to grasp the basics.

And then they had the nerve to lecture me—really, they did—about how I take this forum far too seriously... ☕

Yeah, you're defending them. You're acting like those moralists from those other threads. I ask a question, and instead of an answer, I just get that constant deflection of "But why are you asking?" 🙄 Well, I am asking. I guess I wonder why that bothers you so much.
Even that comment about me taking things "too seriously"...🙄 I suppose it's just easier to criticize than to actually answer a question, isn't it?
And I'm not "stuck in rhetoric," I'm just calling things what they are.

Alex Barnes8 said:Yeah, you're defending them. You're acting like those moralists from those other threads. I ask a question, and instead of an answer, I just get that constant deflection of "But why are you asking?" 🙄 Well, I am asking. I guess I wonder why that bothers you so much.
Even that comment about me taking things "too seriously"...🙄 I suppose it's just easier to criticize than to actually answer a question, isn't it?
And I'm not "stuck in rhetoric," I'm just calling things what they are.

First off, I haven't once—not even once—done any of this supposed "dodging" you're accusing me of. 😁 I don't even know what your question was, let alone why I would care about your motivations. Look, this is a private forum with its own set of rules. It’s basically their way or the highway, regardless of what you or I might think about "them" or how they run things.

Secondly, this whole "you're acting like them" comparison of yours... well, it's logically flawed, isn't it? It’s essentially like saying, "Since John Smith said 2+2=4, and you also said 2+2=4, you must be a predator." ☕

dustypuma5 said:Yeah, legally it's crystal clear. But for this to actually become my property, I'd have to agree to some kind of deal first. As long as I still have that leverage, I can choose not to be part of it.
Don't hit me with legal stuff, I guess. Like you noticed, it's more of a romantic thing for me.

There just isn't a way to change things. I don't see one. There used to be users where, when they posted on PZK, people actually respected them. You could debate an issue. And sometimes, just sometimes, things would actually change. You felt like things could move.
Not anymore, though. Sadly.

The only constant is that the site is always crashing...

once upon a time vs. now
man, oh man...
I used to be a total knockout, now I'm just a "used-to-be" beauty😁:
everything's going downhill and there's nothing we can do about it
quality used to matter, now it's all about quantity
let's just grab a hazelnut latte and forget about those permanent bans
we'll still be posting and starting great threads
because honestly? I've got plenty of life stories and inspiration to share🤣

Linda Rodriguez38 said:once upon a time vs. now
man, oh man...
I used to be a total knockout, now I'm just a "used-to-be" beauty😁:
everything's going downhill and there's nothing we can do about it
quality used to matter, now it's all about quantity
let's just grab a hazelnut latte and forget about those permanent bans
we'll still be posting and starting great threads
because honestly? I've got plenty of life stories and inspiration to share🤣

If you were a knockout back then, you had options..
Now you're basically giving everyone a chance to, uh, yeah...
🙂

You're still pretty though... ☕ with the hazelnut:

Alright, let's wrap this up. You can file a report against a moderator right here on this sub. Just a heads-up though: if the admin team decides to ignore you or handles the complaint in a way you don't like, the case is closed. That’s it. It’s considered unfounded at that point. Thanks for bearing with me.