Ryan Vaughn7 said:Reply to everyone:
I headed out to run some errands yesterday morning and didn't get back until quite late at night. In the meantime, the thread regarding Bush's initiative about removing crosses from government buildings drifted off in five different directions. People started debating church funding (everything from Vatican agreements to church property exploitation and even baptism fees), historical church crimes (ranging from the Crusades and the Inquisition to Galileo and Darwin), and Bush himself (more transcripts and such). It’s a massive departure from the actual subject. Over the course of half a day, a few hundred posts like that piled up across several pages. For instance, if a user posted a reply Saturday morning and checked back in the evening expecting to follow the conversation, they’d need hours just to sift through the noise to find a response to their own post. I can tolerate a little off-topic chatter—maybe two or three participants veering off for a couple of posts—but when an entire thread gets flooded with nonsense for hours, there isn't much choice: either issue a warning or delete it.
Replying to goldenorca11: We keep warned posts visible so the person being penalized—and everyone else watching—can see exactly why the action was taken. As for off-topic posts, we delete them because otherwise, someone always latches onto them and drags the whole discussion down a rabbit hole.
Replying to bluefalcon14: My favorite complaints are always from those who can't see the forest for the trees. Whether you're angry or not, you are one of the biggest spammers, chatters, and trolls on this forum. Regarding Bush, despite my interventions and claims of bias, look at the stats for the last three active threads about the President: the thread on crosses and the military currently sits at 1,386 posts, the thread on reasoned arguments against Bush has 1,603 posts, and the thread regarding the large protest against Bush has 2,741 posts. There are also several smaller ones ranging from 100 to 200 posts. Be a gentleman and read those 6,000 posts. Look at what was said and how it was handled. Then come back here and try to tell me this is a one-sided debate. I doubt you will.
Aha, so around 11:00 PM, feeling focused and perhaps a bit agitated, you dove straight into moderation duty. It’s easy enough to just wipe out a few hundred posts then and call it a day, isn't it? Or do you simply purge whatever doesn't align with your political leanings, regardless of the facts? I should hope you aren't deleting things simply because you fail to grasp them.
Response to goldenorca11: Infraction posts are removed so that the individual being penalized—and indeed, other forum members—can see exactly why the penalty was issued. Off-topic posts are cleared because, otherwise, someone inevitably latches onto them and derails the entire discussion.
If you delete an infraction post, how do you expect the person it was applied to to know what happened, especially when there is such a significant delay in the deletion? And if the post is gone, why bother assigning penalty points in the first place?
Response to bluefalcon14: My favorite complaints always come from those who can't see the forest for the trees. Whether you're angry or not, you remain one of the most prolific spammers, chatterboxes, and trolls on this board. As for George W. Bush, despite my interventions and alleged bias, look at the statistics for the last three active threads regarding the President: the thread about military bases currently sits at 1,386 posts; the thread presenting reasoned arguments against Bush has 1,603 posts; and the thread concerning the massive protest against Bush has 2,741 posts. There are also several smaller ones ranging from 100 to 200 posts. Be a gentleman, read those six thousand posts—that is 6,000—see exactly what was said and how, then return here and continue your lecture on one-sidedness. If you still insist on being thick-headed after that, I highly doubt it.
And how are you faring? I assume you're exhausted from spending all day hunting (and if you have any sense at all, perhaps a bit tipsy—don't worry, I won't sue you for driving under the influence). In just half an hour, you managed to read and conclude that over 200 posts were off-topic, trolling, or spam?
And here is this, which you flagged for no reason whatsoever.
Or, if you can, tell me why this constitutes trolling on a topic titled: Is there any actual benefit to our exchange of opinions?