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2009 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne (Central Park)

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fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 Member
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#181 ·
mistybear87 said:It always seems to be the same story, doesn't it? As soon as someone manages to win, they’re immediately labeled a cheat, a fraud, a scoundrel, or whatever other insults people feel like throwing around ☕.

Look, if the FIA says those diffusers are perfectly legal, then the rest of the field just has to deal with it. They can either swallow the dust behind the leaders or get back to the drawing board and design a better diffuser themselves ☕.

Well, yeah... just think back to everything people were saying here during Ferrari's era of dominance. ☕
fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 Member
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#182 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:I just don't get why they waited until the very last minute to file that protest. 🤷

Wait a second, Morgan Murphy7... I guess free practice sessions aren't necessarily an indicator of actual strength or speed.
Joshua Thomas84 Joshua Thomas84 Newcomer
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#183 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:1. Nico Rosberg Williams 1m26.053s

2. Rubens Barrichello Brawn 1m26.157s

3. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1m26.350s

4. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m26.370s

5. Jenson Button Brawn 1m26.374s

6. Timo Glock Toyota 1m26.443s

And honestly, it’s pretty obvious at this point 🙂

...that Toyota is finally going to be a serious contender for the title

THAT🎉 YO🎉 TA🎉
Maria Nelson2 Maria Nelson2 Active Member
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#184 ·
fadedpanther4 said:Well, yeah... just think back to everything people were saying here during Ferrari's era of dominance. ☕

The real question is how they managed to dominate like that in the first place, 😉but this isn't really the place or the time to get into it...😁
Jamie Newman5 Jamie Newman5 Member
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#185 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:I just don't get why they waited until the very last minute to file that protest. 🤷

They waited until the last second because they figured those diffusers would get banned, and they didn't want to give anyone enough time to actually adjust.

And as for those diffusers... they're fine.🙂 I'm honestly pretty glad about how things are playing out, even if I am pulling for BMW—and they aren't even one of those three teams using that "illegal" diffuser loophole.

Digging a hole under someone else's shovel... turns out it's a pretty exhausting way to live. Not that I'm judging, just observing. Everyone's always trying to step over the person right in front of them, thinking they've found some shortcut. It rarely works out. Usually, you just end up tired and empty-handed. Same old story.👍
fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 Member
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#186 ·
Maria Nelson2 said:The real question is how they managed to dominate like that in the first place, 😉but this isn't really the place or the time to get into it...😁

🙂
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#187 ·
fadedpanther4 said:Well, yeah... just think back to everything people were saying here during Ferrari's era of dominance. ☕

People talked about just about anything, mostly just basic stuff, really. 😬
fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 Member
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#188 ·
mistybear87 said:People talked about just about anything, mostly just basic stuff, really. 😬

Just like how what's being said right now is also based on facts. 😛
Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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#189 ·
No matter how you look at it, I’ve just lost my passion for Formula 1

To hell with sports when they suddenly jump from being an afterthought to being the center of everything😁

😍>
Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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#190 ·
Joshua Thomas84 said:...that Toyota is finally going to be a serious contender for the title

THAT🎉 YO🎉 TA🎉

Look, Toyota would only really be contenders if they were the only ones running those diffusers. But when you have two other teams playing the same game, it’s a much tougher climb than it looks. 😍
fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 Member
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#191 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:No matter how you look at it, I’ve just lost my passion for Formula 1

To hell with sports when they suddenly jump from being an afterthought to being the center of everything😁

😍>

Personally, even that doesn't bother me that much.
What really gets to me is the constant rule-bending and how they seem to tweak things just to favor specific drivers or teams.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#192 ·
fadedpanther4 said:Just like how what's being said right now is also based on facts. 😛

The FIA actually said something else entirely 😬
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#193 ·
Well, that was quite the atmosphere 🙂

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Mark Ruiz8 Mark Ruiz8 Active Member
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#194 ·
Can someone give me a total layman's explanation of what diffusers actually are? And who's actually using them?
Frank Collins85 Frank Collins85 Active Member
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#195 ·
mistybear87 said:Well, that was quite the atmosphere 🙂

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🤣 but seriously, bravo, this is easily the best post in this entire thread 👍
Frank Collins85 Frank Collins85 Active Member
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#196 ·
fadedpanther4 said:🙂

Why the worry, fadedpanther4?!

we will rise

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fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 Member
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#197 ·
Frank Collins85 said:Why the worry, fadedpanther4?!

we will rise

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I really hope that's just dust in the photo rather than smoke. 😲
Frank Collins85 Frank Collins85 Active Member
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#198 ·
Testing out in Bahrain, and I can't help but wonder... isn't there a bit too much sand swirling around out there?
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#199 ·
Mark Ruiz8 said:Can someone give me a total layman's explanation of what diffusers actually are? And who's actually using them?

Basically, the diffuser is located underneath the rear of the car, and its whole purpose is to manage the airflow moving under the chassis.

By being really meticulous with the design, you can effectively "exhaust" a massive amount of that air. Since there isn't as much air coming in from the front, you create a high-velocity stream, which ultimately helps the car stick to the track through increased downforce.
hollowhawk412 hollowhawk412 Active Member
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#200 ·
Jamie Newman5 said:They waited until the last second because they figured those diffusers would get banned, and they didn't want to give anyone enough time to actually adjust.

And as for those diffusers... they're fine.🙂 I'm honestly pretty glad about how things are playing out, even if I am pulling for BMW—and they aren't even one of those three teams using that "illegal" diffuser loophole.

Digging a hole under someone else's shovel... turns out it's a pretty exhausting way to live. Not that I'm judging, just observing. Everyone's always trying to step over the person right in front of them, thinking they've found some shortcut. It rarely works out. Usually, you just end up tired and empty-handed. Same old story.👍


That isn't quite right... they protested as fast as humanly possible 😁
and that was right before the first race....
During testing, you can basically do whatever you want, and there's no such thing as a formal protest...

As for whether it's actually legal, the stewards made their call, but at the FIA level, everything is subject to appeal, and it wouldn't be a stretch to see a ban handed down later. Just look at Renault's mass dampers;
they passed the stewards' inspection initially, only to be banned shortly after... and with those dampers, the R26 managed to snatch seven out of the first eight wins...

What will happen next? I haven't a clue if they'll get banned, but within a certain timeframe, the double-decker teams will start prepping a single-decker version of the diffuser,
and vice versa... ensuring everyone is ready for whatever final ruling the FIA eventually drops on them....

In any case, for the next few races, these specific teams are going to enjoy a massive, obvious advantage...

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