2009 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne (Central Park)

Morgan Murphy7 said:Unfortunately, he already showed what he's capable of today by going off track. 😁

I was reading up on 😁

Even last year, they were practically at their wits' end with him...

Have you heard what his salary actually looks like?😁

I honestly don't think it's even half a million dollars😁😁

Amanda Kelly said:It’s not quite that black and white. Those diffusers are definitely sitting in a gray area right now.
The teams using them took a gamble and it paid off. I’m not losing any sleep over it.
That said, it’s a massive headache when the rulebook is written so vaguely that everyone can interpret it differently.

The FIA has been making a huge mess and honestly, they’re still at it. How else do you explain how Renault had the absolute best car and the strongest engine back in '05/'06, then suddenly there's an engine freeze and Renault ends up with the weakest engine on the grid? 😵And now they're getting permission to bump up power by about 70 hp🙄—I mean, seriously? 😕Now we've got this whole mess with the diffusers. If they actually set clear rules, what kid is supposed to sit around philosophizing about it? If Renault and Red Bull asked for the same thing and the FIA told them "no way, that's illegal," how does it suddenly become legal for Williams, Toyota, and Brawn GP? 🤷Bottom line: the FIA is totally screwed because none of this makes any sense anymore. 🙄The dumbest part is having a winner for the first two races only to have their points stripped away later because of some "illegal" diffuser (which the FIA will decide on), even though the FIA approved it as legal before the race even started. 😵🙄

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing this podium on Sunday

1. Kazuki Nakajima
2. Rubinho
3. Jenson Button

Anyway, heading off to check the odds at the sportsbook and drop a little cash 😬

stormybadger8 said:The FIA has been making a huge mess and honestly, they’re still at it. How else do you explain how Renault had the absolute best car and the strongest engine back in '05/'06, then suddenly there's an engine freeze and Renault ends up with the weakest engine on the grid? 😵And now they're getting permission to bump up power by about 70 hp🙄—I mean, seriously? 😕Now we've got this whole mess with the diffusers. If they actually set clear rules, what kid is supposed to sit around philosophizing about it? If Renault and Red Bull asked for the same thing and the FIA told them "no way, that's illegal," how does it suddenly become legal for Williams, Toyota, and Brawn GP? 🤷Bottom line: the FIA is totally screwed because none of this makes any sense anymore. 🙄The dumbest part is having a winner for the first two races only to have their points stripped away later because of some "illegal" diffuser (which the FIA will decide on), even though the FIA approved it as legal before the race even started. 😵🙄

They won't strip the points even if it gets declared illegal later on

hollowhawk412 said:They won't strip the points even if it gets declared illegal later on

So what happens then? Cars with an illegal diffuser scoop up the points🙄 and those points still count🙄. Honestly, a championship like this is just a joke👎. As much as I hate Ferrari, I'd rather see them win a season with a 500-point lead than deal with this crap☕.

This season is gonna be wild 🙂

Stoked for Williams... especially for Rubinho, haha!!!

Anything can happen!!!

The rest of the teams need to figure out those diffusers ASAP to match the ones in the grey area 😁

hollowhawk412 said:They won't strip the points even if it gets declared illegal later on

maybe even the constructors' championship

Alright, putting this one in for Sunday 😁

DraftKings

Rubens Barrichello- 1406 1st-3rd 2.20

Nick Heidfeld- 1407 1st-3rd 3.50

Kazuki Nakajima- 1415 1st-8th 1.75

Jarno Trulli- 1411 1st-8th 1.45

Lewis Hamilton - won't place 1828 no 4.10

Fernando Alonso(duel)-Jenson Button 1513 2nd 1.80

Exchange rate:
144.1960

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stormybadger8 said:So what happens then? Cars with an illegal diffuser scoop up the points🙄 and those points still count🙄. Honestly, a championship like this is just a joke👎. As much as I hate Ferrari, I'd rather see them win a season with a 500-point lead than deal with this crap☕.

Nah... the diffuser stays legal until it actually gets ruled illegal...

as simple as that

Michael Lee4 said:Alright, putting this one in for Sunday 😁

DraftKings

Rubens Barrichello- 1406 1st-3rd 2.20

Nick Heidfeld- 1407 1st-3rd 3.50

Kazuki Nakajima- 1415 1st-8th 1.75

Jarno Trulli- 1411 1st-8th 1.45

Lewis Hamilton - won't place 1828 no 4.10

Fernando Alonso(duel)-Jenson Button 1513 2nd 1.80

Exchange rate:
144.1960

My bad if the mod wants to delete this, feel free to wipe it

I was just checking Bwin, and the odds for a Hamilton win this Sunday are sitting at 25.

Man, if things go our way, a little side bet could really pay off.
Think about it—if half the field ends up wrecking their cars in the first turn, and then we start seeing KERS issues kicking in...

Hamilton might just cruise straight to the top.🙏

mistybear87 said:maybe even the constructors' championship

but even then

Morgan Murphy7 said:I was just checking Bwin, and the odds for a Hamilton win this Sunday are sitting at 25.

Man, if things go our way, a little side bet could really pay off.
Think about it—if half the field ends up wrecking their cars in the first turn, and then we start seeing KERS issues kicking in...

Hamilton might just cruise straight to the top.🙏

If you look at those first two practice sessions, Hamilton and his car are in deep trouble. It’s likely going to lead to a bad qualifying position and a lot of tension, which usually results in some desperate, messy overtaking attempts or someone flying off track during the race. That said, I'm rooting for him.😁

BTW... I was kind of hoping McLaren was just warming up and would kill it in Australia. But after seeing this morning's session, I'm starting to doubt they're hiding anything that'll actually help them tomorrow.

hollowhawk412 said:Nah... the diffuser stays legal until it actually gets ruled illegal...

as simple as that

But honestly, the whole thing is insane. If it turns out to be illegal, then everyone else gets screwed—especially Renault and Red Bull since they tried to pull something similar. And if these guys win and then lose points later? Total mess. Who’s to say they wouldn't be sitting in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th without it? Or maybe someone else wouldn't be in 1st if not for these shady diffusers. It's just one giant, ridiculous headache.🙄

Michael Lee4 said:If you look at those first two practice sessions, Hamilton and his car are in deep trouble. It’s likely going to lead to a bad qualifying position and a lot of tension, which usually results in some desperate, messy overtaking attempts or someone flying off track during the race. That said, I'm rooting for him.😁

BTW... I was kind of hoping McLaren was just warming up and would kill it in Australia. But after seeing this morning's session, I'm starting to doubt they're hiding anything that'll actually help them tomorrow.

Realistically, there's nothing from them, at least for this first race, until they fix up some kind of diffuser.🙏

I just can't wrap my head around it—are the people over at the betting sites drunk? They've got Alonso sitting way too high up in the standings for a win.🤷

stormybadger8 said:But honestly, the whole thing is insane. If it turns out to be illegal, then everyone else gets screwed—especially Renault and Red Bull since they tried to pull something similar. And if these guys win and then lose points later? Total mess. Who’s to say they wouldn't be sitting in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th without it? Or maybe someone else wouldn't be in 1st if not for these shady diffusers. It's just one giant, ridiculous headache.🙄

I honestly believe we need to sweat a little more before we start handing out final grades, especially since Formula 1 is just so incredibly packed with drama.
Deception, honestly, isn't exactly some groundbreaking new phenomenon in this world. 😉

Morgan Murphy7 said:I’ve been looking over the results from this second practice session, and honestly, I think we’re going to see some real trouble regarding these diffusers.

It is incredibly obvious that these three teams using them have a massive advantage.

This needs to be banned immediately; otherwise, the whole competition just loses its meaning.

Since when did being innovative and creatively interpreting the rules stop making sense in Formula 1? This isn't some amateur spec series where everyone has to run identical cars. If teams didn't push the boundaries of the rulebook like this, we wouldn't even have ground effect "skirts," six-wheeled cars, turbo engines, or active suspension, just to name a few... Besides, Super Aguri was actually the first to use this kind of diffuser—when that team folded, one aero designer ended up at Honda, another at Toyota, and it looks like Williams just came up with the solution themselves. The other teams can either cry about it being illegal and try to ban it in court, or they can get to work and develop their own version...

Honestly, I didn't think conspiracy theories would start flying this fast—and we're still just basing it on the first practice sessions 🙄 Wait until the race is actually over before you start complaining...

hollowhawk412 said:I honestly believe we need to sweat a little more before we start handing out final grades, especially since Formula 1 is just so incredibly packed with drama.
Deception, honestly, isn't exactly some groundbreaking new phenomenon in this world. 😉

Yeah, but this is getting a bit ridiculous... honestly, it’s like kids are running Formula 1 instead of adults.

Damn, they’re old, and honestly, they're just like kids—they still need their diapers changed and don't have a clue what's going on around them. 😁

Donna Nelson23 said:Since when did being innovative and creatively interpreting the rules stop making sense in Formula 1? This isn't some amateur spec series where everyone has to run identical cars. If teams didn't push the boundaries of the rulebook like this, we wouldn't even have ground effect "skirts," six-wheeled cars, turbo engines, or active suspension, just to name a few... Besides, Super Aguri was actually the first to use this kind of diffuser—when that team folded, one aero designer ended up at Honda, another at Toyota, and it looks like Williams just came up with the solution themselves. The other teams can either cry about it being illegal and try to ban it in court, or they can get to work and develop their own version...

Honestly, I didn't think conspiracy theories would start flying this fast—and we're still just basing it on the first practice sessions 🙄 Wait until the race is actually over before you start complaining...

Nobody is complaining... these observations were made a long, long time ago during testing...

It’s nothing particularly groundbreaking... aerodynamic components are restricted this year, including the diffuser itself.... I tried reading the article in English, which I usually speak and understand quite well, but it was just far too technical for me to form an actual opinion...

I personally think we need to wait for both the race and the final outcome of the situation... we need more information.

Michael Lee4 said:Yeah, but this is getting a bit ridiculous... honestly, it’s like kids are running Formula 1 instead of adults.

Damn, they’re old, and honestly, they're just like kids—they still need their diapers changed and don't have a clue what's going on around them. 😁

ahahaha 🤣🤣👍

hollowhawk412 said:Nobody is complaining... these observations were made a long, long time ago during testing...

It’s nothing particularly groundbreaking... aerodynamic components are restricted this year, including the diffuser itself.... I tried reading the article in English, which I usually speak and understand quite well, but it was just far too technical for me to form an actual opinion...

I personally think we need to wait for both the race and the final outcome of the situation... we need more information.

Obviously... but honestly, having three teams with that diffuser loophole sitting at the top is too obvious for it to be a fluke. Or maybe everyone else is just holding back until tomorrow morning to show what they actually have? 😁