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Brandon Kim96 Brandon Kim96 Newcomer
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#101 ·
My apologies if this topic has already been brought up—I certainly wouldn't want to clutter the boards by repeating something that’s already being discussed!

I honestly don't even know where to begin with this one. Let me try to frame it like this: I am a massive dragon ball fan—it was actually the very first anime I ever watched—and I've always felt it had such a compelling story and a huge cast of genuinely great characters. So, seeing someone just talking absolute major league bullshit about such an absolute classic... it really rubs me the wrong way.

First things first—if you haven't had a chance to check it out yet, you really ought to go watch the trailer:
I’ve been spending quite a bit of my downtime revisiting some of the older discussions around the series—specifically looking back at how certain adaptations handled the core essence of the source material—and I stumbled upon this video again. It really brings back a flood of specific memories regarding the massive gap between what we expected from the legendary work of Akira Toriyama and what actually made it to the big screen. When you look at the sheer scale of the original vision—that sense of cosmic stakes and the internal growth of characters like Goku—it becomes painfully obvious why certain cinematic attempts felt so hollow. It wasn't just a matter of poor special effects or questionable casting; it was a fundamental misunderstanding of the soul of the story. You can't just take a masterpiece and strip away its heart, expecting the audience to stay engaged. It felt less like an adaptation and more like a complete departure from everything that made the fans fall in love with the journey in the first place. It’s one of those things where, even years later, you find yourself reflecting on the missed opportunities. There was such potential there, yet it somehow managed to miss the mark entirely. It’s a fascinating, if somewhat frustrating, case study in how *not* to approach a beloved franchise.

I don't know about all of you, but if you ask me—personally—I’m convinced this movie is going to be nothing more than some major league bullshit.
Here are just a few reasons why Dragon Ball could never be adapted into a live-action movie and still actually feel like Dragon Ball:

1.)Akira Toriyama And then there’s his art style—truly a subject all its own.
I’ve come across this specific debate all over the internet more times than I can count—it seems like everyone has an opinion on whether it was a mistake to cast a white actor as Goku instead of someone of Asian descent. Personally, I just can't bring myself to agree with that line of thinking. When you look at the source material, Akira Toriyama didn't exactly design him to fit into any specific human racial category—after all, Goku isn't even human, he's a Saiyan! At the end of the day, Akirin's unique art style doesn't really lean into specific earthly ethnicities, so trying to apply those real-world labels to his character feels a bit misplaced to me.
Another thing worth noting when we discuss Akirin's unique artistic style is Goku's hair—it’s just such a defining characteristic of his entire look. Honestly, trying to replicate those gravity-defying styles in a live-action film is a massive uphill battle; you simply can't capture that specific aesthetic on screen without it looking ridiculous, and since those hairstyles are essentially the soul of his character design, it's a huge hurdle to clear.

2.)Goku.
It’s honestly such a shame that they cast someone so completely wrong for the lead—someone who should have been cool and brought that specific sense of humor to the role, yet ended up being totally out of place. To make matters worse, the movie actually has Goku attending high school... High school! Seriously?! How on earth could Goku ever function in a classroom setting? The guy is essentially a lovable dummy—and frankly, that simple-mindedness is exactly what makes him so iconic and complete as a character. In the film, he’s already quite grown up while training under Master Roshi, but anyone who has actually watched the anime or read the manga knows he was just a little kid during those sessions. Out of pure respect for Dragon Ball, that certain flamboyant actor from this movie just doesn't feel like Goku to me at all.

3.)Bulma.
There are some guns in the movie—honestly, I don't even think I need to elaborate further on that point... (and before anyone asks, no, the hair color has absolutely nothing to do with it either).

4.)Dragon Ball..
If I caught everything correctly from that trailer—and I usually do—it seems like those Dragon Balls were actually forged by about seven sages or some kind of ancient council to act as a defense mechanism for the country against an invasion??? 😕 This was never actually mentioned—not in the manga and certainly not in the anime—but the truth is that Kami is the one who created the Dragon Balls.

5.)So, I have to ask—has anyone actually seen Krillin lately?
It’s honestly such a shame—where on earth is Krillin? You have this guy who has been fighting right alongside Goku through the entirety of both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, yet he’s nowhere to be found in this movie. It’s a massive oversight. On top of that, they left out Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu too... just completely missing those core characters. And then there's the decision to include Master Roshi—who, if I'm being perfectly honest, bears absolutely no resemblance to how he actually looks in the series.

So, I’m curious—what are your actual thoughts on this movie? What are you looking forward to, or more likely, what are you dreading? To be perfectly honest, back at the start, I was actually holding out hope that they would just never make it—that it would remain unfilmed forever. But unfortunately, it looks like that day is coming, and we'll all have to face the reality of seeing that absolute disgrace of a film playing in theaters across America.😢
Jesse Patel6 Jesse Patel6 Newcomer
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joined May 2009
#102 ·
The trailer honestly just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and there's no way I'm sitting through the actual movie because it would just ruin the whole DBZ experience for me... When I look back at how I used to sprint home from school every single day just to make sure I didn't miss the start of the episode, those were the days...
boldtrucker64 boldtrucker64 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jul 2010
#103 ·
I’m obsessed with DBZ and GT and pretty much any movie out there—but this? This has zero connection to Dragon Ball at all...
It’s just something else entirely >.div>
urbanotter4 urbanotter4 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2007
#104 ·
🤣

I'm seriously counting down the days until that movie drops 👋
briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
145 messages
joined Sep 2009
#105 ·
urbanotter4 said:🤣

I'm seriously counting down the days until that movie drops 👋

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Noah Ross7 Noah Ross7 Regular
355 messages
joined Dec 2008
#106 ·
I’m looking forward to seeing this movie, though I guess I’m just hoping I don't end up completely disappointed.
Melissa Evans Melissa Evans Member
23 messages
joined Sep 2009
#107 ·
To strikes me as having the potential to be a stellar sci-fi action flick, especially if they nail the visual effects.
Raymond Cruz42 Raymond Cruz42 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2009
#108 ·
Brandon Kim96 said:My apologies if this topic has already been brought up—I certainly wouldn't want to clutter the boards by repeating something that’s already being discussed!

I honestly don't even know where to begin with this one. Let me try to frame it like this: I am a massive dragon ball fan—it was actually the very first anime I ever watched—and I've always felt it had such a compelling story and a huge cast of genuinely great characters. So, seeing someone just talking absolute major league bullshit about such an absolute classic... it really rubs me the wrong way.

First things first—if you haven't had a chance to check it out yet, you really ought to go watch the trailer:
I’ve been spending quite a bit of my downtime revisiting some of the older discussions around the series—specifically looking back at how certain adaptations handled the core essence of the source material—and I stumbled upon this video again. It really brings back a flood of specific memories regarding the massive gap between what we expected from the legendary work of Akira Toriyama and what actually made it to the big screen. When you look at the sheer scale of the original vision—that sense of cosmic stakes and the internal growth of characters like Goku—it becomes painfully obvious why certain cinematic attempts felt so hollow. It wasn't just a matter of poor special effects or questionable casting; it was a fundamental misunderstanding of the soul of the story. You can't just take a masterpiece and strip away its heart, expecting the audience to stay engaged. It felt less like an adaptation and more like a complete departure from everything that made the fans fall in love with the journey in the first place. It’s one of those things where, even years later, you find yourself reflecting on the missed opportunities. There was such potential there, yet it somehow managed to miss the mark entirely. It’s a fascinating, if somewhat frustrating, case study in how *not* to approach a beloved franchise.

I don't know about all of you, but if you ask me—personally—I’m convinced this movie is going to be nothing more than some major league bullshit.
Here are just a few reasons why Dragon Ball could never be adapted into a live-action movie and still actually feel like Dragon Ball:

1.)Akira Toriyama And then there’s his art style—truly a subject all its own.
I’ve come across this specific debate all over the internet more times than I can count—it seems like everyone has an opinion on whether it was a mistake to cast a white actor as Goku instead of someone of Asian descent. Personally, I just can't bring myself to agree with that line of thinking. When you look at the source material, Akira Toriyama didn't exactly design him to fit into any specific human racial category—after all, Goku isn't even human, he's a Saiyan! At the end of the day, Akirin's unique art style doesn't really lean into specific earthly ethnicities, so trying to apply those real-world labels to his character feels a bit misplaced to me.
Another thing worth noting when we discuss Akirin's unique artistic style is Goku's hair—it’s just such a defining characteristic of his entire look. Honestly, trying to replicate those gravity-defying styles in a live-action film is a massive uphill battle; you simply can't capture that specific aesthetic on screen without it looking ridiculous, and since those hairstyles are essentially the soul of his character design, it's a huge hurdle to clear.

2.)Goku.
It’s honestly such a shame that they cast someone so completely wrong for the lead—someone who should have been cool and brought that specific sense of humor to the role, yet ended up being totally out of place. To make matters worse, the movie actually has Goku attending high school... High school! Seriously?! How on earth could Goku ever function in a classroom setting? The guy is essentially a lovable dummy—and frankly, that simple-mindedness is exactly what makes him so iconic and complete as a character. In the film, he’s already quite grown up while training under Master Roshi, but anyone who has actually watched the anime or read the manga knows he was just a little kid during those sessions. Out of pure respect for Dragon Ball, that certain flamboyant actor from this movie just doesn't feel like Goku to me at all.

3.)Bulma.
There are some guns in the movie—honestly, I don't even think I need to elaborate further on that point... (and before anyone asks, no, the hair color has absolutely nothing to do with it either).

4.)Dragon Ball..
If I caught everything correctly from that trailer—and I usually do—it seems like those Dragon Balls were actually forged by about seven sages or some kind of ancient council to act as a defense mechanism for the country against an invasion??? 😕 This was never actually mentioned—not in the manga and certainly not in the anime—but the truth is that Kami is the one who created the Dragon Balls.

5.)So, I have to ask—has anyone actually seen Krillin lately?
It’s honestly such a shame—where on earth is Krillin? You have this guy who has been fighting right alongside Goku through the entirety of both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, yet he’s nowhere to be found in this movie. It’s a massive oversight. On top of that, they left out Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu too... just completely missing those core characters. And then there's the decision to include Master Roshi—who, if I'm being perfectly honest, bears absolutely no resemblance to how he actually looks in the series.

So, I’m curious—what are your actual thoughts on this movie? What are you looking forward to, or more likely, what are you dreading? To be perfectly honest, back at the start, I was actually holding out hope that they would just never make it—that it would remain unfilmed forever. But unfortunately, it looks like that day is coming, and we'll all have to face the reality of seeing that absolute disgrace of a film playing in theaters across America.😢


Look, let's get one thing straight right out of the gate... Goku isn't stupid. People love to act like he's some kind of moron just because he doesn't care about social norms or whatever, but that's a total misunderstanding of how his head works... He’s got a different kind of intelligence, a combat instinct that most people couldn't even wrap their brains around if they tried. Calling him dumb is just lazy analysis... It's major league bullshit... 😠 He’s just being a little rude... 😁 Completely innocent and totally chill...

Look, this movie can't ruin DBZ for me. I don't even view them as the same thing. The animation itself is phenomenal... we'll just have to wait and see how this whole thing turns out. I'm just crossing my fingers that they don't end up churning out some absolute garbage designed specifically for American teenagers...
Brandon Kim96 Brandon Kim96 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#109 ·
Raymond Cruz42 said:Look, let's get one thing straight right out of the gate... Goku isn't stupid. People love to act like he's some kind of moron just because he doesn't care about social norms or whatever, but that's a total misunderstanding of how his head works... He’s got a different kind of intelligence, a combat instinct that most people couldn't even wrap their brains around if they tried. Calling him dumb is just lazy analysis... It's major league bullshit... 😠 He’s just being a little rude... 😁 Completely innocent and totally chill...

Look, this movie can't ruin DBZ for me. I don't even view them as the same thing. The animation itself is phenomenal... we'll just have to wait and see how this whole thing turns out. I'm just crossing my fingers that they don't end up churning out some absolute garbage designed specifically for American teenagers...

Look, let's be real, he's dim-witted—but that's exactly what makes him perfect. Besides, he isn't the first character in Japanese anime to be portrayed as a bit slow; it's practically a trope. He only truly demonstrates his intelligence during combat, which feels completely natural since, after all, he is a Saiyan.
Raymond Cruz42 Raymond Cruz42 Member
20 messages
joined Jan 2009
#110 ·
Brandon Kim96 said:Look, let's be real, he's dim-witted—but that's exactly what makes him perfect. Besides, he isn't the first character in Japanese anime to be portrayed as a bit slow; it's practically a trope. He only truly demonstrates his intelligence during combat, which feels completely natural since, after all, he is a Saiyan.

He’s not actually stupid, though. Honestly? He’s pretty sharp and wise when he needs to be. He just doesn't give a damn about anything else... if you'll excuse my French... except for food. 😁

His stomach is basically the only selfish part of him. 😁
Brandon Kim96 Brandon Kim96 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2009
#111 ·
briskbison41 said:That city explosion really takes me back to that moment when the strongest Saiyans first touched down.
Remember when Nappa totally leveled all of New York City during that one ridiculous scene? (Pretty sure it was NYC, at least that's how I remember it.)

And that old creep? He’s legendary. Honestly, if they had just thrown him into the mix, the whole movie would have been a straight-up comedy.
I'm on the same page regarding what we're hoping to find out. It would be pretty cool if they actually delved into his backstory—I’d love to see him mid-fight with that blonde hair and gold aura flashing on screen.
I’m guessing we won't see any of that planet-shaking destruction during the fights in this movie. Honestly, that would actually be pretty cool.

Honestly, if you look at the actual scale of power here, the Avengers is way more devastating than a Kamehameha. There's just no comparison.
Looking at the trailer, it looks like he's trying to pull off an Avengers, but honestly, there’s a chance it could just be a Kamehameha.
I was watching the trailer on mute, so I didn't even catch whether he actually yelled out the Kamehameha or not.

It isn't New York City. Look, the world in Dragon Ball is purely fictional—it doesn't have any connection to our actual world.
briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
145 messages
joined Sep 2009
#112 ·
Raymond Cruz42 said:He’s not actually stupid, though. Honestly? He’s pretty sharp and wise when he needs to be. He just doesn't give a damn about anything else... if you'll excuse my French... except for food. 😁

His stomach is basically the only selfish part of him. 😁

The only thing that could actually pull his mind away from eating is a brutal fight.
He’s always down for that.😁
Raymond Newman Raymond Newman Member
16 messages
joined Jan 2009
#113 ·
My only real concern is that this movie might end up being a total flop, much like the recent Power Rangers reboot.
briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
145 messages
joined Sep 2009
#114 ·
Raymond Newman said:My only real concern is that this movie might end up being a total flop, much like the recent Power Rangers reboot.

It’s honestly hard to top the Power Rangers🤣 but based on what we've seen in the trailer, I think this is going to be great.
The more explosions, the better.😁
silentpuma12 silentpuma12 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Feb 2009
#115 ·
To quote a comment I saw over on YouTube:
"...but because the director clearly never sat down to watch DBZ or Dragon Ball, he has no clue that Namek is where the dragon balls actually come from..."
Goku comes across as way too intense, and honestly, the rest of the cast follows suit. Nothing about the plot, the character designs, or their personalities actually aligns with what we know. To make matters worse, the movie completely lacks that charm and soul that made the original series so great... it feels like a total mess.
I have zero intention of seeing this in theaters, and I sincerely hope no true fan makes that mistake either. This isn't just a bad adaptation; it's an insult to the entire legacy and everyone who loves it.
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 Regular
511 messages
joined May 2009
#116 ·
New trailer just dropped...

trailer 2
brightnomad712 brightnomad712 Newcomer
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#117 ·
Down with Hollywood !!!
Down with neoliberalism !!!
Down with this so-called Democracy!!!
Down with Parton !!!

Let independence burn!!!
Let freedom burn!!!
And let every single misunderstood writer burn along with it!!!
Even let the pine trees burn!!!
Jessica Rogers2 Jessica Rogers2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#118 ·
Jesse Patel6 said:The trailer honestly just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and there's no way I'm sitting through the actual movie because it would just ruin the whole DBZ experience for me... When I look back at how I used to sprint home from school every single day just to make sure I didn't miss the start of the episode, those were the days...

🙏🙏🙏🙏
If you watch the movie without assuming it's DB—just treating it like some standalone flick that happens to borrow elements from the show—the trailer actually looks pretty decent.
brightnomad712, you totally forgot to mention that in the series, at least during the early seasons, Goku and the gang are absolute legends.😂😂
It’s honestly such a shame that the little guy isn't going to be in it...👎
briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
145 messages
joined Sep 2009
#119 ·
Jessica Rogers2 said:🙏🙏🙏🙏
If you watch the movie without assuming it's DB—just treating it like some standalone flick that happens to borrow elements from the show—the trailer actually looks pretty decent.
brightnomad712, you totally forgot to mention that in the series, at least during the early seasons, Goku and the gang are absolute legends.😂😂
It’s honestly such a shame that the little guy isn't going to be in it...👎

Back then, the characters were still just kids.
What they have in the movie works better this way.

Personally, I think having them as the leads would have just ruined the vibe of the film for me.
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 Regular
511 messages
joined May 2009
#120 ·
Some fresh shots...

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And a quick thought on a potential sequel...

“If there were to be a sequel I think it… well, I know that it would go to a really interesting place, because they already have the second script written.” When pressed for details, Chatwin revealed a little more about the direction of the celluloid version of the franchise. “It’s really, really cool. The second One goes more into The whole legacy and The genealogy of Dragonball. It goes more in-depth into a real Dragonball series , The kind of intergalactic World of Dragonball.”

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