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The Breakfast Club (2007)

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Dennis Scott6 Dennis Scott6 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2011
#41 ·
I just finished watching "Class," and honestly, I have nothing but praise for it. It felt incredibly grounded—nothing about it felt forced or unnecessary. The young actors were phenomenal; they really leaned into their roles and made them feel lived-in. We’ve seen the whole school violence theme tackled a thousand times before, but usually through that typical Hollywood lens. This time, we get an Estonian perspective on it, and it’s a refreshing change of pace. It’s definitely worth checking out if you want to see some truly promising new talent in cinema...👍
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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joined Jul 2012
#42 ·
Really solid movie, though I’m not sure if most guys would actually vibe with that character's whole thing—it felt a bit off to me...
Maybe it’s just because he’s Estonian and we tend to hype up stuff from there more, but honestly, the film didn't really blow me away...

Speaking of Bully behavior, it makes me think of the movie Ben X, so definitely check that one out if you haven't yet
rustymarlin322 rustymarlin322 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#43 ·
Lisa Davis46 said:Fine, maybe that was the goal. If so, then the movie worked for me.
Still, I think the ending is serious enough. It totally fits the vibe of the rest of the film and it definitely isn't some cheesy Hollywood bullshit. Isn't it possible the ending just hammers home the message? Like, violence only breeds more violence, and you have to find a way to stop it at the root before it just keeps repeating itself?

Exactly. Look, violence isn't the answer, obviously, but what they did to them? That scene on the beach was unhinged. And Thea—man, she’s unbelievable. Instead of being proud to be with a guy who actually has the guts to stand up for someone, she acts like... well, you saw her. Bullies were dead, two girls were gone—one by accident, the other shot by Joseph—and she was just sitting there on that beach looking totally satisfied while they were forcing Casper to grovel to that guy. It really showed her true colors. She was smiling. What a piece of work. At the end of the day, if you haven't dealt with bullying firsthand, you can't possibly get it. I have. Bullies are a cancer on society, and it feels like nobody will stand up to them, or they just don't want to deal with the headache. Even at the start of the movie, when they jump Joseph, it's filmed so clinically, and nothing happens. If he had fought back, he would’ve been the villain. That’s how it always goes—the victim ends up taking the blame. That entire class was toxic. Out of maybe thirty kids, all thirty of them were just watching with these smug looks like this is totally normal behavior. Especially the girls. Where is their moral compass? They're "brave" enough to take on one person 30-to-1. Pathetic. Personally, I thought it was a great movie. It nails the reality of bullying: the bullies, the victims, and the audience that just sits there and watches without doing a damn thing.

I don't even know where to start with this one. Honestly, I’m just sitting here staring at my screen, trying to process how we even got to this point. It’s exhausting. Everything feels like a mess lately, and I’m just over it. Just one thing after another, and frankly, I’m tired of pretending it’s fine. It isn't. kaže:
Exactly. And don't even get me started on that scene where the airhead attacks Casper just because he stood up for him—as if her being loved more than her is such a huge deal. 🤮 What an entitled, heartless bitch. Please.
I’m not gonna lie, there were a few times during that movie where I actually felt nauseous. Seriously. She was being extra. At the end of the day, I didn't even feel bad for them (except maybe for that one girl who just happened to be standing right in front of all that chaos). They're just a bunch of losers. And honestly, coming from me, that’s a compliment. I've seen my fair share of nonsense—most of us have—but nothing even comes close to this. Nothing even touches how out of control they were. Everyone. It’s like this whole crowd of snobs just showed up, and nobody even blinked. Not one person had the guts to speak up or even show a hint of disapproval. Just total silence while they acted like that. 🙄 Absolute nightmare.

I’m with you on that. But honestly, it feels like nobody even cares...😢
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#44 ·
rustymarlin322 said:Exactly. Look, violence isn't the answer, obviously, but what they did to them? That scene on the beach was unhinged. And Thea—man, she’s unbelievable. Instead of being proud to be with a guy who actually has the guts to stand up for someone, she acts like... well, you saw her. Bullies were dead, two girls were gone—one by accident, the other shot by Joseph—and she was just sitting there on that beach looking totally satisfied while they were forcing Casper to grovel to that guy. It really showed her true colors. She was smiling. What a piece of work. At the end of the day, if you haven't dealt with bullying firsthand, you can't possibly get it. I have. Bullies are a cancer on society, and it feels like nobody will stand up to them, or they just don't want to deal with the headache. Even at the start of the movie, when they jump Joseph, it's filmed so clinically, and nothing happens. If he had fought back, he would’ve been the villain. That’s how it always goes—the victim ends up taking the blame. That entire class was toxic. Out of maybe thirty kids, all thirty of them were just watching with these smug looks like this is totally normal behavior. Especially the girls. Where is their moral compass? They're "brave" enough to take on one person 30-to-1. Pathetic. Personally, I thought it was a great movie. It nails the reality of bullying: the bullies, the victims, and the audience that just sits there and watches without doing a damn thing.

I don't even know where to start with this one. Honestly, I’m just sitting here staring at my screen, trying to process how we even got to this point. It’s exhausting. Everything feels like a mess lately, and I’m just over it. Just one thing after another, and frankly, I’m tired of pretending it’s fine. It isn't. kaže:
Exactly. And don't even get me started on that scene where the airhead attacks Casper just because he stood up for him—as if her being loved more than her is such a huge deal. 🤮 What an entitled, heartless bitch. Please.
I’m not gonna lie, there were a few times during that movie where I actually felt nauseous. Seriously. She was being extra. At the end of the day, I didn't even feel bad for them (except maybe for that one girl who just happened to be standing right in front of all that chaos). They're just a bunch of losers. And honestly, coming from me, that’s a compliment. I've seen my fair share of nonsense—most of us have—but nothing even comes close to this. Nothing even touches how out of control they were. Everyone. It’s like this whole crowd of snobs just showed up, and nobody even blinked. Not one person had the guts to speak up or even show a hint of disapproval. Just total silence while they acted like that. 🙄 Absolute nightmare.

I’m with you on that. But honestly, it feels like nobody even cares...😢

Nothing surprising here.

Here is a fresh example:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mcdonalds-b...ry?id=13450499

Some individual who transitioned from a male donkey to a female donkey wanders into the women's restroom, only to be charged by two cows. Meanwhile, the staff at McDonald's just stands there laughing, while one employee films the whole ridiculous scene on their phone.

Disgusting, yet somehow entirely typical.
restlessranger30 restlessranger30 Member
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#45 ·
Exactly. Even in those scenarios where someone is getting jumped in public, there’s usually a security guard or some staff member nearby who could step in. Ideally, people should always rush to help someone being victimized when they witness it, but it’s that classic psychological phenomenon: nobody wants to be the first one to move because they assume someone else will take the lead.
It's a whole thing on its own...
But to me, that feels different from what happened in the classroom. I actually saw situations like this back in my high school, too—where two guys would gang up on a third student—and my classmates were actually sensible enough that once they realized it wasn't just harmless horseplay, they’d step in, pull them apart, and say, "Alright, that's enough." I mean, these aren't just total strangers; these are people you actually hang out with.
Or at least, the girls would... I honestly think a girl would be more likely to stand up for a poor guy than a boy would. 😕

In this movie, by the end, I basically froze the entire class in place, except for those two.
rustymarlin322 rustymarlin322 Member
13 messages
joined Apr 2011
#46 ·
goldenhound32 said:Nothing surprising here.

Here is a fresh example:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mcdonalds-b...ry?id=13450499

Some individual who transitioned from a male donkey to a female donkey wanders into the women's restroom, only to be charged by two cows. Meanwhile, the staff at McDonald's just stands there laughing, while one employee films the whole ridiculous scene on their phone.

Disgusting, yet somehow entirely typical.

Morbid😕.Poor woman😢.At least they fired him; he earned it. People have become completely blind to other people's suffering. Watching violence happen and not reporting it? That's a crime. It's like that scene in the field when Thea escaped—everyone was too busy watching what they were doing to her. She could have at least called someone, especially since she was in love with him... but nope, everyone just watches. Some girls were even laughing. I mean, if guys act like that, fine, but girls? ..This is just a movie, but this happens everywhere. It's terrifying how these people sleep at night. If this were real life and an entire classroom stood up against those Bullies—like 25 kids against 2—they'd actually stop. But no, everyone supports them. In the end, I only felt bad for Joseph and Casper. You just can't feel sorry for scum like that.👎
ironraven96 ironraven96 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#47 ·
I just finished watching this movie, and I'm honestly so shaken up that I felt compelled to revisit this old thread. It’s based on a true story, but it feels like they took quite a bit of liberty with the actual facts. I find that a little disappointing. I was under the impression from what she asked about being allowed to leave—and how she recounted the daughter of the survivor watching them begin their suicide attempt—that there were multiple people involved. I got caught up in the moment and thought, "this is absolutely devastating," but in reality, there was only one individual present. Now I'm left wondering just how much the violence was exaggerated for the screen. In the real case, nobody was actually trying to stop him, yet the character doesn't look particularly weak in the film, which seems a bit off to me. I suppose I would have assumed he was some kind of Bully🙂
casualgull casualgull Member
26 messages
joined Jan 2013
#48 ·
Watched the movie today. Left me feeling nothing... turns out this topic is already being discussed here. 🙂

A brilliant film about human cruelty. It leaves you speechless before anything else. The acting was stellar.

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