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Seeing a doctor without Medicare?

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Participants Nicole Harris7Angela WrightSam Hughes5mistygull21Michael Smith14cosmicpanther71mistyjackal842Zachary Kern6Terry Lee89Edward Hall3wanderingdrifter16Ronald Kim3
Nicole Harris7 Nicole Harris7 MemberOP
10 messages
joined Aug 2007
#1 ·
Um...
So, here’s the situation. I left my last job, but they dragged their feet on returning my paperwork—tax forms, termination notices, all that stuff. Because of their delay, I missed the one-month window to register for health insurance coverage. It’s done, though; there's no going back now. Currently, I’m unemployed and haven't
registered with the unemployment office yet. My last day of employment was back in February.

Now I'm facing the inevitable question... What happens if something goes wrong and I end up in the hospital? Say, for an emergency appendectomy or something along those lines. How much is the healthcare system going to bleed me for on average? Also, is there any way to get my insurance sorted out retroactively? I’ve been through a mountain of interviews, but nobody has hired me yet. Is there some kind of workaround where I sign up at the unemployment office and then deal with Medicare later? I know people are probably going to mock me for this, but they didn't have to deal with the shady firm that screwed me over.
I really need some advice; I honestly have no idea what my next move should be.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2 ·
Nicole Harris7 said:Um...
So, here’s the situation. I left my last job, but they dragged their feet on returning my paperwork—tax forms, termination notices, all that stuff. Because of their delay, I missed the one-month window to register for health insurance coverage. It’s done, though; there's no going back now. Currently, I’m unemployed and haven't
registered with the unemployment office yet. My last day of employment was back in February.

Now I'm facing the inevitable question... What happens if something goes wrong and I end up in the hospital? Say, for an emergency appendectomy or something along those lines. How much is the healthcare system going to bleed me for on average? Also, is there any way to get my insurance sorted out retroactively? I’ve been through a mountain of interviews, but nobody has hired me yet. Is there some kind of workaround where I sign up at the unemployment office and then deal with Medicare later? I know people are probably going to mock me for this, but they didn't have to deal with the shady firm that screwed me over.
I really need some advice; I honestly have no idea what my next move should be.

You don't actually have to be registered with the unemployment office to qualify for socialized medical coverage anymore. Nowadays, that agency is basically just a placement service for finding work. From what I understand, you can list yourself as a dependent under a family member, and they can claim you as a tax deduction later on. Your best bet is to call Social Services or just walk into their office and ask them directly. That’s the smartest move.
Nicole Harris7 Nicole Harris7 MemberOP
10 messages
joined Aug 2007
#3 ·
Angela Wright said:You don't actually have to be registered with the unemployment office to qualify for socialized medical coverage anymore. Nowadays, that agency is basically just a placement service for finding work. From what I understand, you can list yourself as a dependent under a family member, and they can claim you as a tax deduction later on. Your best bet is to call Social Services or just walk into their office and ask them directly. That’s the smartest move.

Is that actually possible? Can someone really sign up as a dependent? I mean, I'm an adult... does my age play a role in this? And where am I supposed to go? To the social services office? What kind of story am I even supposed to tell them? Like, "Look, I'm unemployed, I lost my health coverage, and my parents are supporting me." Do they actually buy that? Wouldn't I need some sort of official proof that I'm not working? I read somewhere on a forum about some procedure involving paying around $100 or so for coverage. How does that process even work?
Sam Hughes5 Sam Hughes5 Active Member
52 messages
joined Sep 2008
#4 ·
Maybe this might be useful for you, just a thought

🙂
mistygull21 mistygull21 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#5 ·
Nicole Harris7, I just sent you a private message 🙂
Nicole Harris7 Nicole Harris7 MemberOP
10 messages
joined Aug 2007
#6 ·
mistygull21 said:Nicole Harris7, I just sent you a private message 🙂

So, one option is just paying someone with an established LLC or a small business to report me. That would end up costing me around $400, $167 I guess. Great. In this current climate, there really isn't an "easy way" out. Now I just have to find someone willing to take the risk. Is there seriously no other way to handle this?
Nicole Harris7 Nicole Harris7 MemberOP
10 messages
joined Aug 2007
#7 ·
bumping this!
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#8 ·
Nicole Harris7 said:Is that actually possible? Can someone really sign up as a dependent? I mean, I'm an adult... does my age play a role in this? And where am I supposed to go? To the social services office? What kind of story am I even supposed to tell them? Like, "Look, I'm unemployed, I lost my health coverage, and my parents are supporting me." Do they actually buy that? Wouldn't I need some sort of official proof that I'm not working? I read somewhere on a forum about some procedure involving paying around $100 or so for coverage. How does that process even work?

Isn't your employment history basically the proof that you're out of a job?
Think about stay-at-home moms who don't have a paycheck—how do they get coverage? They're covered through their husbands, obviously, because he supports them.
Look, just head straight to your local county office, hit up the info desk, and lay out your whole situation in detail. There might be other options available besides this one that actually fit your circumstances better.
Michael Smith14 Michael Smith14 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2010
#9 ·
Hey everyone, quick question for you all... I’m currently without health insurance, but I really need to see a doctor ASAP. Does anyone know if I can just head back to the clinic I used when I actually had coverage and pay out of pocket? Or am I stuck looking for a private doctor instead?
cosmicpanther71 cosmicpanther71 Member
27 messages
joined Feb 2007
#10 ·
You visit your doctor and pay for the $5.00 exam plus whatever $5.00 referral or prescription you end up getting
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#11 ·
They’ll have to cover those costs out of pocket if they don't have supplemental insurance. But, I guess if they aren't even covered by basic health insurance, then they're definitely going to be looking at a much higher bill. Honestly, everyone really ought to have basic coverage—that's why it's called mandatory in the first place.
Michael Smith14 Michael Smith14 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2010
#12 ·
Yeah, I don't have any, unfortunately... but do you have a rough idea of what that would even run me?
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#13 ·
I honestly have no idea what the total cost would even look like. I've just never found myself in a situation quite like this before. Maybe try to figure out a way to get your Medicare coverage sorted first? You could head over to the local Social Security office or check with a nearby government services center—it really just depends on which district you're registered in. They should be able to walk you through the process and explain exactly what you need to do to qualify for coverage. It might also be worth stopping by your primary care doctor's office to explain the whole thing. If you have a good relationship with them, I imagine they'll try to help you out. You'll probably have to pay something upfront, but I don't think it'll be a massive amount... maybe around $33, though I can't say for sure.
Zachary Kern6 Zachary Kern6 Member
21 messages
joined Nov 2008
#14 ·
If your primary care physician can just handle it on their own... I’m pretty sure you won't run into any trouble. But if you start needing referrals or prescriptions? Well, that’s where things get messy. If a provider tries to process a referral or a script using an expired insurance card—assuming your doctor even bothers to write it down for you—they aren't going to be able to bill Medicare. Instead, they'll end up stuck with the bill themselves, which nobody wants. Honestly, your best bet is to just contact Medicare directly. There’s really no reason for you to be without coverage; you can usually find some basis to get insured, and once you do, it gets sorted out in about an hour. You'll get your enrollment confirmation, and then you can head to the doctor with that, just like you would with an insurance card... though keep in mind, if they charge you out-of-pocket, those checkups will run you about $60, and lab tests? Those prices can get absolutely dizzying
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#15 ·
You really just have to keep an eye on those deadlines. For instance, if she’s just finished her schooling, she needs to reach out within 60 days to get her health coverage through Medicare as an unemployed person. But, if she was actually working and then lost her job, that window to register with Medicare shrinks down to 30 days. Once those deadlines pass, things get complicated—I guess there might be issues getting covered even if she's still technically unemployed. At that point, I suppose the only real options are paying for the insurance herself or just waiting until she lands a new job and her employer handles the enrollment.
Michael Smith14 Michael Smith14 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2010
#16 ·
Yeah, I totally missed that 30-day window because I wasn't even in town, so there was no way for me to get down there on time. And once I finally got back? Man, they gave me such a hard time... total nightmare. Hmmm, maybe I'll try to find a doctor who’s actually nice and see if I can charm my way into a solution 🙂 thanks guys
Terry Lee89 Terry Lee89 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2010
#17 ·
My insurance just lapsed right when I actually need to see a dentist.
Since it's Sunday, I'm heading to an urgent care clinic—does anyone know what they're going to charge me for a checkup or if I end up needing a wisdom tooth pulled?
Edward Hall3 Edward Hall3 Member
12 messages
joined Nov 2009
#18 ·
Terry Lee89 said:My insurance just lapsed right when I actually need to see a dentist.
Since it's Sunday, I'm heading to an urgent care clinic—does anyone know what they're going to charge me for a checkup or if I end up needing a wisdom tooth pulled?

Emergency rooms don't charge for the visit itself, but they only cover services classified as true emergencies.

What happened to your insurance?
wanderingdrifter16 wanderingdrifter16 Newcomer
1 message
joined Nov 2010
#19 ·
You guys have it all wrong; that’s basically a massive loophole in our legal system, and once you fall into it, it’s incredibly hard to climb back out...
I actually ended up in a mess like that myself once, lost my job and totally blanked on checking in with the local Social Security office, so after thirty days my Medicare coverage just lapsed, and then—of course, because life is great—some idiots jumped me and I ended up stuck in a hospital bed, only to get hit with a $44 $0.00... yeah, turns out everything comes with a price tag eventually...
If you end up in the ER, they aren't going to hesitate to mail that bill straight to your front door, so don't go thinking you can dodge it.
Edward Hall3 Edward Hall3 Member
12 messages
joined Nov 2009
#20 ·
wanderingdrifter16 said:You guys have it all wrong; that’s basically a massive loophole in our legal system, and once you fall into it, it’s incredibly hard to climb back out...
I actually ended up in a mess like that myself once, lost my job and totally blanked on checking in with the local Social Security office, so after thirty days my Medicare coverage just lapsed, and then—of course, because life is great—some idiots jumped me and I ended up stuck in a hospital bed, only to get hit with a $44 $0.00... yeah, turns out everything comes with a price tag eventually...
If you end up in the ER, they aren't going to hesitate to mail that bill straight to your front door, so don't go thinking you can dodge it.

No, I am not mistaken.

I am talking about the ER. Inpatient hospital care—meaning staying in a hospital bed—is a paid service regardless of how you get admitted, even if it's an emergency. That bill is legitimate.

The ER and inpatient hospitalization are two entirely different categories. People who don't understand how the system works mistakenly lump them together as the same thing.

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