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The best movies of all time?

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silentridge3 silentridge3 Active Member
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#61 ·
Anthony Kim18 said:Look, when it comes to American movies, I don't think you can find anything better anywhere else.
Maybe in Italy, Germany, or at most France, but even then,
American films still pull more crowds than their own local stuff.

I’m not saying that American movies aren't the top watched globally, I just mean that it feels like nowhere else hits quite this specific percentage.

Just to give you a rough caricature of how it looks:

Germany - 55% American
France - 62% American
Italy - 72% American
Romania - 61% American
Czech Republic - 45% American
Poland - 81% American
Iran - 12% American
Thailand - 34% American..
..(and so on)..
USA - 95% American

I guess people here don't really have an accurate idea of what actually gets watched in different parts of Europe. For instance, the circle of countries where German is the official language—like Germany, Austria, and Switzerland—broadcasts a massive amount of German cinema, and neighboring countries pick up a lot of that too. Like in Slovakia or the Czech Republic, you see plenty of German series and movies on TV, even during prime time. Then on the flip side, you have this whole cluster of Francophone nations with huge production industries that buy content from one another (like Romania buying from France).

Back home, CBS tried to push some German products into the lineup, but it just didn't stick, I suppose. Part of it was probably the language barrier—unlike much of Central Europe, we rely on subtitles, so we aren't really used to anything besides English—but it was also because those shows were just so different from what we're accustomed to, which is that classic American style and American themes.

I'll say it again; even though I haven't done any "scientific" research or anything, just from my own experiences traveling through Europe, I've concluded that we are incredibly, intensely Americanized, maybe even more so than everyone else.
Betty Adams7 Betty Adams7 Newcomer
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#62 ·
British films just have that extra layer of quality, you know? But I still love sitting down to watch an American one. That's really all there is to it...
Samuel Smith5 Samuel Smith5 Active Member
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#63 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m not saying that American movies aren't the top watched globally, I just mean that it feels like nowhere else hits quite this specific percentage.

Just to give you a rough caricature of how it looks:

Germany - 55% American
France - 62% American
Italy - 72% American
Romania - 61% American
Czech Republic - 45% American
Poland - 81% American
Iran - 12% American
Thailand - 34% American..
..(and so on)..
USA - 95% American

I guess people here don't really have an accurate idea of what actually gets watched in different parts of Europe. For instance, the circle of countries where German is the official language—like Germany, Austria, and Switzerland—broadcasts a massive amount of German cinema, and neighboring countries pick up a lot of that too. Like in Slovakia or the Czech Republic, you see plenty of German series and movies on TV, even during prime time. Then on the flip side, you have this whole cluster of Francophone nations with huge production industries that buy content from one another (like Romania buying from France).

Back home, CBS tried to push some German products into the lineup, but it just didn't stick, I suppose. Part of it was probably the language barrier—unlike much of Central Europe, we rely on subtitles, so we aren't really used to anything besides English—but it was also because those shows were just so different from what we're accustomed to, which is that classic American style and American themes.

I'll say it again; even though I haven't done any "scientific" research or anything, just from my own experiences traveling through Europe, I've concluded that we are incredibly, intensely Americanized, maybe even more so than everyone else.

It's quite simple: they're just bad. The subtitle thing is a non-issue because Americans are perfectly fine reading them; it doesn't stop anyone from watching. As for the German language, maybe some people just don't care for it. But if that were the real reason, why does everyone sit through those Italian and Spanish soap operas? That has nothing to do with knowing English either.

To me, those series and films are so poorly made they're practically unwatchable.
Mark Johnson5 Mark Johnson5 Member
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#64 ·
Samuel Smith5 said:It's quite simple: they're just bad. The subtitle thing is a non-issue because Americans are perfectly fine reading them; it doesn't stop anyone from watching. As for the German language, maybe some people just don't care for it. But if that were the real reason, why does everyone sit through those Italian and Spanish soap operas? That has nothing to do with knowing English either.

To me, those series and films are so poorly made they're practically unwatchable.

They have managed a few good films in recent years—Goodbye Lenin!, Against the Wall, The Fat Years are Over, Sophie Scholl, The Lives of Others... but when it comes to TV series, you're absolutely right; it's just pure misery.🤮
A Anonymous Veteran
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#65 ·
under not mentioned in the poll...
I should also bring up Czech cinema because of Kolja from 😘Sverakov😍
as well as Menzel and Forman...🙂

I honestly prefer European filmmaking over anything from the US...
I've been digging into Asian cinema lately... some Iranian and Korean films are truly incredible...🙂
Mark Johnson5 Mark Johnson5 Member
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#66 ·
Quote: and Korean films are truly exceptional...
greta says:
under unspecified in the poll...
I should also mention Czech cinema—specifically Sverakov's 😘Kolja😍
as well as the work of 🙂Menzel and Forman...

I have a much stronger preference for European filmmaking over
American🙂 stuff... As for Asian cinema, I'm still exploring it... though I must say, certain

Iranian
😉Well, obviously European cinema holds more weight than what we see in the US. When were Americans actually better? Aside from having massive budgets and dominating the box office, that's about it. Any recommendations for Asian films?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#67 ·
Mark Johnson5 said:Quote: and Korean films are truly exceptional...
greta says:
under unspecified in the poll...
I should also mention Czech cinema—specifically Sverakov's 😘Kolja😍
as well as the work of 🙂Menzel and Forman...

I have a much stronger preference for European filmmaking over
American🙂 stuff... As for Asian cinema, I'm still exploring it... though I must say, certain

Iranian
😉Well, obviously European cinema holds more weight than what we see in the US. When were Americans actually better? Aside from having massive budgets and dominating the box office, that's about it. Any recommendations for Asian films?

Sure thing, I got you...🙂
Mark Johnson5 Mark Johnson5 Member
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#68 ·
Anonymous said:Sure thing, I got you...🙂

But not right now—I really need to get some sleep. I’m going to be running around downtown all day tomorrow, so I'll jump back in whenever I actually have a free moment. I won't forget. 😉
Walter Fowler53 Walter Fowler53 Active Member
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joined Jul 2006
#69 ·
No Italians in the poll, so Walter Fowler53 isn't even on the list 👋

🤣
brightcobra91 brightcobra91 Member
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#70 ·
Walter Fowler53 said:No Italians in the poll, so Walter Fowler53 isn't even on the list 👋

🤣


no Leone2 here 🙂
brightcobra91 brightcobra91 Member
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#71 ·
a Bertolucci, Fellini, De Sica ... 😢
Anthony Kim18, you should've thrown in some Italian directors 😠
shadowdrifter6 shadowdrifter6 Newcomer
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#72 ·
I see someone brought up Scandinavian filmmakers. Since I'm completely in the dark regarding their cinema, would anyone be so kind as to suggest something worthwhile?
Any genre will do, though I'd prefer something more recent and easy to find on a streaming service.
Anthony Kim18 Anthony Kim18 Active MemberOP
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#73 ·
So, what's the absolute best cinema on the planet?
This poll will close on 16-05-2010 at 05:55
American 11 37.93%
French 3 10.34%
British 3 10.34%
American 0 0%
American 3 10.34%
Mexican 2 6.90%
Other 7 24.14%
Voters: 29
Samuel Smith5 Samuel Smith5 Active Member
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#74 ·
Mark Johnson5 said:They have managed a few good films in recent years—Goodbye Lenin!, Against the Wall, The Fat Years are Over, Sophie Scholl, The Lives of Others... but when it comes to TV series, you're absolutely right; it's just pure misery.🤮

Look, I was specifically tearing apart the movies being aired on CBS. I never claimed that EVERY German film is total garbage.
Samuel Smith5 Samuel Smith5 Active Member
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#75 ·
shadowdrifter6 said:I see someone brought up Scandinavian filmmakers. Since I'm completely in the dark regarding their cinema, would anyone be so kind as to suggest something worthwhile?
Any genre will do, though I'd prefer something more recent and easy to find on a streaming service.

🤔 Bergman?
☕
Mark Johnson5 Mark Johnson5 Member
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#76 ·
Samuel Smith5 said:Look, I was specifically tearing apart the movies being aired on CBS. I never claimed that EVERY German film is total garbage.

I actually have German RTL on my satellite dish too. Heaven help you, Anthony Kim18.
Mark Johnson5 Mark Johnson5 Member
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#77 ·
Samuel Smith5 said:🤔 Bergman?
☕

And you completely overlooked Lukas Moodysson 🙂
Lilja 4-ever, Together, Fucking Amal 😍
A Anonymous Veteran
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#78 ·
shadowdrifter6 said:I see someone brought up Scandinavian filmmakers. Since I'm completely in the dark regarding their cinema, would anyone be so kind as to suggest something worthwhile?
Any genre will do, though I'd prefer something more recent and easy to find on a streaming service.

My suggestion:
Check out the Dane Lars von Trier and his work—films like Breaking the Waves, Dogville, or Dancer in the Dark... you might find something there that clicks with you.
redhound2 redhound2 Newcomer
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#79 ·
In my opinion, the absolute pinnacle of cinema can be found in Italian and German filmmaking.
redhound2 redhound2 Newcomer
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#80 ·
And let's not forget Ingmar Bergman either...

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