Dealing with an episiotomy: What to expect?

Arslan, seriously, this obsession you have with episiotomies isn't even funny anymore. We’ve been over this a million times—every single time you bring it up, we end up right back where we started, and people aren't changing their minds just because you're pushing it...

So, yeah, 🙂

Personally, I just don't buy the idea that any doctor would ever go out of their way to hurt a patient on purpose...
Sure, they might mess up and cause unnecessary pain because they lack experience or simply aren't skilled enough, but intentionally inflicting suffering? No way... that's just delusional.
I didn't always see eye to eye with Sophia Martinez65, but in this case, I think she's 100% spot on.

Wait, what's this about? Justin Fox is back talking about childbirth and episiotomies again 🙄
It feels like it was only a month or two ago when he was going on and on about this exact same stuff.

Yeah, sure, I just go out and empty an entire clip from my .44 Magnum into patients every single day, just for revenge and because it's such a blast, right? 😈
Please, please, come be my patient instead! 🙏 🙏 🙏

This is getting seriously concerning; you’re just looping now, constantly chewing on the same old topic. You seem to thrive on that whole doctor-vs-patient conflict, digging around just to see if you can find something dirty to scrape up. Like some sensationalist tabloid journalist, you don't even bother checking if it's straight-up slander; you just want to stir the pot and incite people against doctors. Seriously, man, just take a hike and go get some help. :asshole:

Justin Fox said:🙂

Maybe try learning how to use basic grammar and punctuation first,you know, just so you don't look like an idiot. 🙄 ☕

Justin Fox, why are you so obsessed with starting a family when there isn't even a single thing in place yet? 😁

Doctors aren't gods in white coats, really. They should be focusing on the patients—meaning they ought to explain why they’re doing certain things. If there’s a risk involved, they should probably walk you through exactly what could go wrong. I guess it shouldn't be a mystery. Besides, women should have the choice to give birth naturally. If things don't go as planned, then you step in and help. I don't see why there needs to be an immediate push for a C-section right away. Anyway, the healthcare situation in America is pretty dire lately. Doctors and nurses can act quite entitled, almost like they're shouting at patients. It’s just rude, honestly. Unless, of course, you go to private clinics, where you end up paying for everything out of your own pocket.

Susan Martin24 said:Who’s talking about what? Justin Fox was rambling on about childbirth and episiotomies 🙄
just a month or two ago.

Sure—I discharge a full clip from my .44 Magnum into patients every single day, purely out of spite and for the sheer thrill of it, just for 😈
Please, please, come be my patient 🙏 🙏 🙏

This is getting quite concerning; you're repeating yourself, constantly chewing on the same old bone, seemingly fueled by this doctor-versus-patient conflict. You seem intent on digging up dirt, acting like a tabloid reporter without checking if it's actually slander—as long as there's drama and you can stir the pot against doctors, you're happy. Just move on already and go get some help, you :asshole:

I'll sign off on all of that... except for the part about journalists... let's avoid generalizations, if you please.😉

Susan Martin24, if my posts bother you so much, then stop quoting them. Honestly, your entire feed is just dripping with contempt for anyone brave enough to shake up a broken system. You think I’m the asshole here? Kiss my ass, Susan Martin24. You wouldn't last a day as a patient, even if you were the last person left on Earth. And don't even get me started on those long-winded rants of yours about how suffering somehow makes you an expert on life. It's exhausting.

It’s funny, isn't it? Doctors always seem obsessed with making excuses for their colleagues, while everyone else actually gives a damn about the patients. I try to stay objective, unlike you.

MangoAnanas said:When a baby is first born, they often look completely cyanotic—just this deep shade of blue. It’s a bit jarring, honestly; they look more like a tiny little alien than a human being. It usually takes about a minute or so before that healthy pink color finally starts to settle in. Because of that, there's a massive rush to get things moving during delivery. You can't waste a second because that little one is essentially struggling through hypoxia. That’s why doctors apply pressure to the abdomen; it’s all about making things easier for both the mother and the newborn to ensure everyone gets the oxygen they need.

Hey, MangoAnanas. Do you ever wonder if the natural pace of labor is actually the sweet spot for both the mother and the baby? From what I can gather, trying to rush things seems like it just increases the risk of tearing, mostly because the body doesn't get enough time to fully prepare itself. Unless we're looking at those rare, critical medical emergencies, the natural progression shouldn't really cause issues for the child. So, wouldn't you agree that speeding up the process should be the exception rather than the rule? It feels like we should be letting nature take its course whenever possible.

MangoAnanas said:The exams are done by hand. It’s all based on how many fingers can fit—that's how they gauge dilation and decide when it’s actually time to get moving with labor. Yeah, the exam is manual. So, how exactly would you suggest doing it? Using a trocar from the inside?

There’s a way to perform an exam where you manipulate the fingers to minimize discomfort, and then there’s the other way. I’m talking about a specific situation where a patient actually finds the courage to speak up, only to have the doctor "punish" them by intentionally being rough and making the procedure as painful as possible. It’s honestly disgraceful. I think any medical exam is much easier to endure when you feel like the person across from you actually wants to help. Once you get that gut feeling that they’re acting out of spite or revenge, the whole thing becomes unbearable—even if the technique itself is technically perfect or performed with clinical precision. If the intent is malicious, the skill doesn't matter.
What is the actual point of that exam? A woman is going to dilate when she dilates. Measuring whether she’s opened exactly Y centimeters in X minutes doesn't actually change the biological process of labor. It's just numbers on a chart.

MangoAnanas said:I’m sure she was just drilling away without any numbing agent because she wanted to be cruel... But honestly? That’s just not how it works. Lidocaine kicks in almost instantly; if she actually intended to skip the anesthesia, she couldn't have pulled that off. I can't recall if they performed an episiotomy or not—I don't have the time to go through every medical detail—but if it was just a simple tear, we're talking maybe two or three stitches at most. It really just comes down to the individual. Some women make a massive production out of the whole thing, while others breeze right through it without much fuss at all.

Look, I get where you're coming from, but I know for a fact that lidocaine doesn't just kick in instantly. It needs a moment to actually settle in before it fully takes hold. It’s just like when you go to the dentist—they give you the injection, sit there for a minute, and then tap your lip to see if you can feel anything before they even start the procedure. I've been through it myself enough times to know that it definitely isn't an immediate "lights out" situation right after the needle hits.

I realize that local anesthetics work individually and aren't always as effective on inflamed tissue. In this case, they didn't perform an episiotomy—which was actually one of the things that irritated the patient in the first place—but honestly, it’s probably for the best since she only had a minor tear. But I have to ask: how on earth do you justify a doctor just continuing to stitch someone up while the woman is screaming in pain, only stopping once her husband finally loses his cool and shouts at them to stop? To me, that sounds like a textbook malpractice lawsuit waiting to happen.

MangoAnanas said:What on earth did those doctors do to you to make them turn on you like that? Did this happen back here in the States or over in Australia?

Look, MangoAnanas, this isn't actually about me. It’s about principles—human rights and basic human dignity. I've always stood up for myself when it comes to being treated with respect, and frankly, I usually get my way. And no, I've never even been to Australia, so I have no idea why you're bringing that up.
It infuriates me when doctors act like they hold absolute authority, making life-altering decisions for patients without giving a damn about what the patient actually thinks or feels. What one person considers "standard procedure" can be deeply traumatic for someone else, and that needs to be taken seriously.
I prefer to stay quiet about what others think, but I hope that by posting here every now and then, I can at least raise some awareness about the need for more humane treatment in healthcare.

Justin Fox said:it's about maintaining one's dignityandintegrity

🙏 🙏 🙏

Ugh, I seriously can't take this anymore!!!!😱 😱
Every single time I hop onto Reddit and click on the health sub, there’s Justin Fox again, just looping through the same old tired nonsense about "natural" births over and over. 🙈

Honestly, I feel like Bill Murray in that Groundhog Day movie... where the exact same day just keeps happening, and happening, and happening....🙂 🤮 🙂 🙂

Guys, we have to do something about this! 🙂 🙂
It’s just like that local contractor who tries to sell you overpriced junk while posing for selfies with Nobel laureates whenever the sun hits him just right. 🙂

My bad... Murray, not Murrey 😍

Susan Martin24 said:Everyone, we need to take action! 🙂 🙂

What exactly are you suggesting? 😬

Honestly, we should just send in our elite task force to track him down and tear through those barriers he’s built up. Then, we can stitch everything back together properly—you know, the right way—maybe even with some local anesthesia 😂 😂 😂
just to take the edge off. That way, the guy might actually start talking and finally write about this topic based on what he's actually been through 😵 👋 🙂

hmm... maybe instead of an episiotomy they should just go for a lob... o... tomy? 😬

Megan Reed said:hmm... maybe instead of an episiotomy, we just go for a little... lobo... tom... y? 😬

I’m honestly worried that once they perform the craniotomy, they’ll just run straight into a vacuum. 😈

Jose Miller33, I’ve officially filed a formal complaint against you. I actually requested that they strip you of your moderator status.
Megan Reed: Honestly, I couldn't care less about your nitpicking over grammar.
Susan Martin24, oh such a wounded ego: If you can't handle being confronted with actual medical malpractice, then stop quoting my posts. Go pick flowers in a meadow or something. These attacks of yours are just pathetic. If anyone here needs psychiatric help, you're first in line—maybe try learning how to admit when you're wrong. I don't care if you're a doctor; you aren't Bog.

Susan Martin24 said:The end of this whole thing is our local contractor selling junk while posing for photos with Nobel laureates under a bright golden sun.🙂

Now, honey, I think you've got your wires crossed. What Nobel laureates? What contractors? And what "junk" are we even talking about? I don't sell anything. You clearly think I’m some nemesis from your past, but look—you’re wrong again.

A New Yorker being wrong? A doctor being wrong? Sure, why not. It’s not exactly a first. They get it wrong and then try to mask the blunder with sheer arrogance and a total lack of substance, all just to maintain the illusion that they actually matter.

Has anyone heard about "Arslanectomy" yet? 😬

And I don't mean using Arslan's name as a synonym for an episiotomy—I'm talking about a literal Arslanectomy...

You really crossed the line this time, Justin Fox! I won't even get into it, but you seriously overdid it. Poking your nose where it doesn't belong. Your posts aren't exactly going to change society overnight. I'll ask you again: what is your actual problem with doctors?