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Anyone used a bioptron lamp?

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Participants Charles Hayesvelvetwolf92Amanda Lee42placidraven22John HillOlivia Phillips3Jeremy White11Frank Alvarez8steelsailor17Bryan Murphy84Donna Kingcasualraven40placidjackal36Scott Allen10
Charles Hayes Charles Hayes NewcomerOP
7 messages
joined Nov 2004
#1 ·
Has anyone actually seen any real results from this lamp in any specific situation?
velvetwolf92 velvetwolf92 Member
42 messages
joined Apr 2007
#2 ·
I actually own one, though I don't really find myself using it much. I tried messing around with it a little bit when I was dealing with some herpes outbreaks, but honestly, I didn't notice any real improvement... I mean, what do I know? It probably works for someone out there. I just didn't see any significant effect myself, but then again, I haven't really put it to the test enough to be sure.
Amanda Lee42 Amanda Lee42 Member
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joined Sep 2013
#3 ·
I have one, though I can't honestly say it's made much of a difference...
placidraven22 placidraven22 Member
23 messages
joined Sep 2004
#4 ·
I have one.
My brother used it for his headaches—he gets them all the time—and it actually helped. They started getting less intense and happened much less often.
My mom uses the lamp for her knee pain, and I use it for acne breakouts and scarring. It works. I don't always remember to use it because, frankly, I'm lazy, but back when my skin was a total disaster, I used it twice a day for about two weeks straight and it made a massive difference.
John Hill John Hill Member
24 messages
joined Jul 2006
#5 ·
Look, I’ve had a seriously good experience with this bioptron thing. A few years back, I dealt with this absolute nightmare involving my nails—doctors couldn't even figure out what was wrong with them. Two of my nails were basically ruined; they were bleeding and getting infected constantly. It was a miserable two-year struggle. I tried everything from random creams to various solutions, but nothing worked. My friend used to sell these lamps, so I finally caved and bought one out of pure desperation, thinking it might just be another expensive mistake. Thankfully, I was wrong. It started drying things up pretty quickly, and soon enough, healthy new nails started growing in. Honestly, if it had only fixed my nails, it would have been worth every penny, but my mom ended up using it too after she broke her hip, and it actually helps with pain relief. Of course, if you're dealing with something long-term like my nail situation, you can't be inconsistent. You have to use it every single day. I saw the first signs—just a slight drying effect—after three days, though it was so subtle I actually thought I was imagining things. But by day seven, there was no denying it was working.
Amanda Lee42 Amanda Lee42 Member
24 messages
joined Sep 2013
#6 ·
Amanda Lee42 said:I have it, but I honestly can't say that I've seen any real improvement...

It’s been six months and this wound of mine just refuses to heal—even though I was using the bioptron twice a day during every dressing change—and my blood sugar levels were perfectly fine, too...
Olivia Phillips3 Olivia Phillips3 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2005
#7 ·
I remember back in the day, some folks on here were sharing pretty sketchy stories about using that lamp—basically claiming it could actually trigger tumor cells to grow faster and multiply even more aggressively...
Jeremy White11 Jeremy White11 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2005
#8 ·
It’s all subjective, I guess, but the reality is that sunlight is basically fuel for the body. Somehow, they managed to take that concept and cram it into this lamp, stripping out all those nasty UVA and UVB rays and leaving just the good stuff. Humans pretty much need the sun to function.
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
43 messages
joined Jun 2005
#9 ·
The bioptron lamp uses polarized light; it has absolutely nothing to do with sunlight or UVA/UVB rays
steelsailor17 steelsailor17 Member
35 messages
joined Jan 2003
#10 ·
Based on this latest post, it looks like water is leaking out of the lamp instead of light.
Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
10 messages
joined Apr 2004
#11 ·
steelsailor17 said:Based on that last post, it sounds like water is coming out of the lamp instead of light.

Yeah, right. 🙄

Charles Hayes, there’s already been a thread on this. To put it simply, every Zepter distributor will tell you the same thing: the bioptron emits polarized light that acts on cells by balancing the polar heads and non-polar tails of the phospholipids in the cell membrane bilayer. Essentially, the lamp's supposed effect is helping the cell maintain equilibrium during nutrient exchange—or waste removal—by allowing substances to pass through the membrane without friction. When that transport works smoothly and nutrient intake is normal, the cell gets enough energy to function properly.
They’ll usually cut to the chase and just tell you that the bioptron gives cells the energy they need for growth, development, and self-healing. 😉

Now, look... I picked up a bioptron when my toddler was about 6 months old for one specific reason: mouth sores. He had been given some kind of penicillin-based antibiotic that caused them to flare up, and because of how young he was, the standard mouthwashes they suggested at the hospital weren't doing a thing. 🙄 After three days of using the lamp, he started nursing normally again, which was a huge relief. 🙂 Later on, I used it on his sinus area whenever he caught a cold, and I can say we usually cleared things up within three days max.

What eventually turned me off from using it, though, was a massive mistake my mother made. They tell you during the presentations that people with tumors shouldn't use the lamp, yet she decided to treat a lump in her breast with it. In a very short amount of time, it grew from the size of a pea to the size of a large egg.
That's when it hit me... what happens if you treat yourself and have NO IDEA there are tumor cells in your body? It's terrifying. The lamp doesn't distinguish between tumor cells and healthy host cells. It treats them all the same, which is actually perfect for tumor cells looking for rapid, abnormal growth. So now, my bioptron just sits in a case gathering dust, because I'm far too much of a worrier to let anyone else use it for that exact reason...
Donna King Donna King Newcomer
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joined Jun 2005
#12 ·
I actually sold some of these a few years back, though I’m pretty embarrassed to admit I never even bothered to try them myself.
My mom, on the other hand, swears up and down that they've been a lifesaver for her rheumatoid arthritis.
Honestly, I'm not sure.
I can't shake this nagging feeling that a huge chunk of the perceived benefits is just a massive placebo effect.
Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
10 messages
joined Apr 2004
#13 ·
Donna King said:I was selling them a few years back, but honestly, I’m almost embarrassed to admit I never actually tried one myself.
My mom, though, swears by them for her rheumatoid arthritis.
I don't know.
I can't help but worry there's a heavy dose of the placebo effect involved here.

Maybe for adults, 😉 but when you're treating a six-month-old baby, the placebo effect doesn't really cut it...

But hey, like I said, I'd probably pass... just my two cents...
John Hill John Hill Member
24 messages
joined Jul 2006
#14 ·
Donna King said:I used to sell them a few years back, but honestly, I’m embarrassed to admit I never actually tried using one myself.
My mom, though, swears up and down that it helps manage her rheumatoid arthritis.
I don't know.
I just can't shake this fear that most of the results are just a massive placebo effect.


With my nails, it definitely wasn't a placebo. The difference was right there in front of me. Sure, you could argue about pain relief being psychological, but if it actually helps? I really don't care.
casualraven40 casualraven40 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2009
#15 ·
Hey everyone—I’ve been scrolling through some threads about the bioptron lately. I heard decent things, but I’m wondering if it actually does anything for rheumatic pain? I’ve also got this sports injury—just a strained ligament—so I’m curious if it helps with recovery. Also, does anyone happen to have a used one they're looking to part with? I'd rather not drop a fortune on a brand-new unit if I don't have to.
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
183 messages
joined Jan 2008
#16 ·
If you’d actually sat down and read the material, you'd see that whole argument is complete nonsense. Polarized light isn't some groundbreaking mystery either.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
315 messages
joined Jun 2005
#17 ·
...so I guess we’ll just wrap this whole thing up using Endi's conclusion!

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