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Girl with a Pearl Earring

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mistyfox812 mistyfox812 RegularOP
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joined Mar 2004
#1 ·
I can't find a single thread... is it seriously possible that nobody has anything to say about this movie? If nothing else, it looks stunning, honestly just like a Delft painting.
Here’s my little brain dump after watching it.

A Frozen Tragedy
It’s pretty obvious as the movie unfolds that everything is heading toward a total disaster. He’s gonna lose his family and any chance at doing what he lives for, and she’s gonna lose her entire world—her family, her reputation, basically any way to fit back into society.
People always throw around that line: "We'll stay together even if the world ends." But here, that’s literal: the price of them being together is the absolute destruction of his world and hers, the whole reality she exists in.
When his wife tells him, "Get out of my house," everything is laid bare. It's one or the other.
He chooses his own world over hers, which kind of halts the tragedy.
In a weird way, there's a > vibe because she ends up marrying some young, hot butcher, so she isn't a maid anymore. And he keeps painting, having actually made money off the work.
But still, you can tell "it's just not it."
The real tragedy is that the heartbreak is unavoidable. If a person rebels against their place in the world—refuses to accept it—fate punishes them for that hubris, for defying the "will of the gods." But if they don't rebel and just swallow their fate and accept where they belong, you're left with this bitter taste that "this isn't it."

All that's left for a person is art. That's the one place where you can push past the boundaries of destiny without the gods coming after you. In art, "it" can finally be achieved without the unbearable consequence of tearing your whole life apart.
In the Delft painting, Gretchen becomes who she truly is: the "Girl with a Pearl Earring." And the version of her captured in that painting feels way more real than the actual reality of her being a maid or a butcher's wife.
Bradley Davis33 Bradley Davis33 Member
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#2 ·
I’ve read the book but haven't actually sat down to watch the movie yet... honestly though, knowing Colin Firth is in it is enough for me to trust it'll be good!🙂
electriclynx45 electriclynx45 Newcomer
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#3 ·
Finished the book a few days ago, so now I'm just waiting on the DVD to arrive so I can finally watch it... I think 👍 is great, and Scarlett does such an amazing job playing Gretchen. From what I saw in the trailers, it looks really solid—they seem to have captured the atmosphere of the Vermeer era and his paintings perfectly...
swiftbison7 swiftbison7 Active Member
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#4 ·
I might’ve actually enjoyed the movie if I hadn't already read the book first, honestly 🙄

The film just didn't hit the mark for me because they tried to cram the entire book into a tiny ninety-minute runtime, which meant tons of important scenes were left on the cutting room floor and all that deep emotional tension you get from reading was basically non-existent
electriclynx45 electriclynx45 Newcomer
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#5 ·
I guess that’s why I usually prefer hitting up a book first. Maybe I'll catch the movie later, but honestly, not always. I’ll definitely give this one a watch, though—mostly just because Colin Firth is in it.🙂
Bradley Davis33 Bradley Davis33 Member
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#6 ·
swiftbison7 said:I might’ve actually liked the movie if I hadn't already read the book first... ugh... 🙄

Honestly, the movie just didn't hit the mark for me. They tried to cram the entire book into a mere 90 minutes, and man, you could really feel it... So many key moments were just totally left on the cutting room floor, and that emotional tension? It just wasn't there. I missed all those deep vibes you get when you're actually reading the pages...

I honestly always get that same feeling whenever I finish a book and then go watch the movie... It’s like, no film can ever actually capture the vibe the way the author does—not when you've already built the whole world up in your own head!
urbanhawk28 urbanhawk28 Member
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#7 ·
This movie reminds me of a total dumpster fire where everyone except the lead is a complete jerk;

I mean, seriously, the main patron is trash, the painter is garbage, and his wife is twice as bad... she's just surrounded by selfish maids, rotten kids, crooked butchers, and all that nonsense.
Authors like this remind me of those people who talk absolute trash about everyone when you're standing right there, but the second you turn your back, they're suddenly talking smack about you too. And portraying the maid as this terrified little girl lost among all those lowlifes? That’s just a lie. Especially when you look at the actual painting, where the woman looks absolutely radiant and fulfilled.

So, in my opinion, the characterization is a total failure. I highly doubt Vermeer was such a loser... you really should go look at his work first.
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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#8 ·
So, what exactly was it about Vermeer that you thought was such a total disaster? 😕
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#9 ·
urbanhawk28 said:...especially when you look at the original painting and see how much that woman just radiates beauty and pure bliss.

The only thing is, we have no clue who she actually was. 😁
Griet is just a fictional name; nobody truly knows the identity of the girl in the portrait.
But back in Vermeer's day, it was pretty standard for painters to use their own respectable wives as models, so the fact that this young lady wasn't his wife meant the whole thing was a genuine scandal in its own right...😁
Bradley Bennett57 Bradley Bennett57 Newcomer
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#10 ·
smjeskica said:I’ve read the book but haven't seen the movie yet... honestly though, knowing Colin Firth is in it is enough for me to trust it'll be great.🙂

You took the words right out of my mouth!😁
urbanhawk28 urbanhawk28 Member
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#11 ·
Just to add,
to me, this is nothing more than a retelling of Cinderella dropped into a new historical setting, dressed up in fancy costumes just to confuse the critics. It leans heavily on those tired feminist clichés about predatory men versus innocent maidens, while the painter’s family is treated as mere collateral damage.

It isn't necessarily the worst case of historical caricature we've seen lately—we've dealt with that recent movie about a certain effeminate Alexander (who was clearly modeled after some average American teenager), that glorious American victory at Pearl Harbor, and things like that.

The only thing this film actually managed to accomplish was making people sickened by one of the best paintings in Vermeer's collection...
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#12 ·
urbanhawk28 said:Just to add my two cents,
in my view, this is nothing more than a retelling of Cinderella dropped into a modern setting, complete with fancy costumes just to throw the critics off the scent. They’re leaning heavily on those tired feminist tropes—you know, the predatory male pig versus the innocent maiden—while the painter's family is treated as little more than collateral damage.

I wouldn't quite go that far, though...

a) Cinderella didn't actually end up with a prince at the end of the story, she ended up with a butcher (I think). 😁
b) That "predatory male" never even touched the virgin—but let's be real, she certainly would have if she wanted to (both before and after the butcher part). 😁
c) The family isn't really a victim here; they're just pretty damn corrupt, plain and simple. 😁
d) I don't think the painting made her a pariah; if anything, now the whole world knows who she is. 😁
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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#13 ·
urbanhawk28 said:I wouldn't say this is necessarily the worst case of historical caricature we've seen lately—I mean, we've had that recent movie about a Cinderella-style kid named Alexander (who was basically modeled after your typical American teenager), plus that version of the massive American victory at Pearl Harbor, and so on.

My simple take is this: movies are fiction and shouldn't be used as a primary source for actual history. Honestly, only complete idiots try to learn history from the silver screen.

I really don't buy the idea that Alexander was tweaked to fit some "average American teenager" mold (who, let's be honest, mostly avoided him anyway)—the issues with the film lie elsewhere, because the character itself stays pretty true to the historical model.

...
Regarding Girl—I’m still wondering (and I’m asking you and Auntie Pes 😁 too) what exactly makes you think that family is such a total mess?
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#14 ·
Well, aren't they? 😁

A schemer driven entirely by spite, an older woman playing games behind everyone's back, and when things finally boil over, she doesn't even step up to defend Griet... just a wife who can't seem to connect with her husband, yet makes a scene the moment he looks elsewhere for a little inspiration or someone to actually understand him... a man who basically sold his soul...
Need me to keep going? 😁

I mean, obviously, if you're looking at it through a modern lens. 😉

But back then? It was just your typical family drama where everyone's plotting against each other. A maid was treated more like a piece of furniture than a person, and if anyone actually thought about helping her, they'd probably think twice before getting involved unless there was something majorly in it for them... 😁
urbanhawk28 urbanhawk28 Member
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#15 ·
Richard Hernandez13 said:Simple answer: movies are fiction and aren't meant to be historical textbooks. Only idiots try to learn history from the silver screen.
I don't buy the argument that Alexander was modified just to appeal to some "average American teenager."

Fine, then they should stick to pure fiction; but no, historical themes are much more compelling...

🙂The fact that Alexander was gay has nothing to do with him being a brilliant strategist and likely quite ruthless (a killer with a child's face). People didn't respect him because of his sexuality; that was probably an irrelevant detail that someone decided to highlight because they thought it looked cool... (not to ramble)

😎In this case, however, it felt like they thought it would be "edgy" to treat the original allure of the image as something dirty. Naturally, the lead had to be portrayed as the total opposite—a bland, characterless, Monalisa-like hermaphrodite, forced into every action without any agency (and therefore, no responsibility). Meanwhile, the supporting characters were further caricatured just to provide better contrast and support the narrative...
By stripping all the characters of their dignity, the film trashed both the subject matter and the director. It's my right to hate it.

👋
urbanhawk28 urbanhawk28 Member
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#16 ·
urbanhawk28 said:it strips all the dignity away from the characters...

I have to correct myself, though. The movie isn't actually that bad, just incredibly irritating.👋
Donna Nelson23 Donna Nelson23 Active Member
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#17 ·
I just finished reading this book and honestly, I loved it—it was fantastic. I didn't even realize there was a movie adaptation out there, but if they managed to capture that same magic from the pages, it could actually be pretty good.
Anthony Kim18 Anthony Kim18 Active Member
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#18 ·
What a total disaster of a movie.
Pure garbage.
Hands down one of the most boring, mindless things I've ever sat through.
And trust me, I’ve seen some pretty bad stuff.
The whole concept was just stupid. Honestly, I can't stand dumb themes, messy plots, or characters this poorly written.

My bad!
Laura Palmer25 Laura Palmer25 Active Member
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#19 ·
Absolutely stunning. It felt like Vermeer's Delft just sprang to life right in front of us, almost as if his paintings had finally started breathing. The attention to detail was incredible, and the casting—from the leads to the supporting roles—was spot on. Truly unforgettable.
Anthony Kim18 Anthony Kim18 Active Member
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#20 ·
Hmm, I have my doubts that life was actually like that.
Maybe they hit those standards, but it feels a bit too perfect to me.
It’s basically just a movie made to show how people back then wanted to see themselves.

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