Leonardo DiCaprio in Aviator

Jose Miller17 said:...it wouldn't hurt if you actually read it yourself and realized it's less than a hundred pages...

The version I read is about 150 pages. That's exactly why I was being sarcastic.

matematicar said:The version I was reading is only about 150 pages. That's exactly where the point of my sarcasm lies...

The "point" of your sarcasm is basically non-existent—let's just stick to 'The Stranger' and Camus...😉

northernfalcon30 said:Your sarcasm is just nonsense—let's just stick to 'The Stranger' and Camus.😉

😂
No, what really gets under my skin are those comments from people claiming they "wasted" their youth watching twenty minutes of this movie. 🙄

I still haven't seen the thing, but I seriously doubt it can be that much of a disaster.

I think I'm gonna go check it out; my buddies told me it's actually pretty good.

matematicar said:Nah, I just can't stand those comments from people claiming they "wasted" their youth watching this movie for twenty minutes. 🙄

...yet you've posted more replies than all of them combined without even seeing how HH bathes in a sink during the opening scene...😁😁

Jose Miller17 said:And you’ve posted more comments than all of them combined, yet you haven't even watched how HH buys his groceries in that first scene.😁😁

That's just because I'm a total snob. 😁
Honestly, when it comes to the stuff I actually love, I could spend a literal eternity dropping cash.
"Hooking up" is one of them. 😉

It was good for me. I wasn't bored. I'm satisfied. And I'll keep it brief and direct. 😁

Blanchetica totally nailed the whole Catherine Hepburn vibe. I honestly figured DiCaprio’s baby face would make it impossible for him to pull off an older role—but man, he actually holds his own. He's surprisingly solid.

The movie is just visually stunning, too... it’s packed with all these weird, twisted little details and scenes that really stick with you.

Definitely a must-watch.

Watched it yesterday

The film is solid enough
DiCaprio, whom I generally can't stand, actually managed to surprise me

It’s interesting that Hughes' germophobia wasn't his primary disorder... specifically, his constant repetition of certain phrases or words and his sensitivity to camera flashes are characteristic of psychomotor epilepsy (a type of epilepsy where you don't lose consciousness, but your awareness is altered)... quite a few famous figures, the so-called visionaries (likely including Nikola Tesla), suffered from this exact type of epilepsy

And here is the paradox: he might have fared much better if he hadn't been so wealthy... if he were struggling, he would have been forced to see a doctor, get a diagnosis, and receive proper treatment, which might have lessened the phobias... instead, he had enough money to build his own parallel universe where he lived in genuine agony, never receiving the medical care he actually needed

Around the same time, I found myself watching two massive blockbusters back-to-back, Ray and Aviator.
While Ray absolutely blew me away and totally lived up to all the hype—not to mention how thrilled I am that Jamie Foxx snagged his Oscar—Aviator just left me feeling completely indifferent.
It’s not like the movie is a total disaster, but it definitely feels way too long and overhyped for what it actually is.
Certain parts of Hughes' life fly by at lightning speed, while other segments just drag on forever like an endless stretch of highway...
I honestly found myself nodding off in a few spots, and looking around the theater, it seemed like plenty of other people were struggling to stay awake too.
Leonardo was truly spectacular, though, and he was easily the only bright spot in the entire production, especially with how brilliantly he portrayed those moments involving OCD (which I can personally relate to since I deal with mild OCD myself).
On the other hand, I thought Cate was just terrible, and even though I know she won an Oscar for it, I just couldn't get past it.
Her accent felt so forced and labored, which made it incredibly distracting for me.
I just couldn't shake that feeling, and it eventually reached a point where every single scene featuring her started to feel totally irritating...

I’m honestly struggling to wrap my head around the vibe here—are we watching this as a straight biopic or what? It feels like a biography, sure, but more specifically, it’s just one slice of life from an incredibly eccentric individual. He’s also dealing with this brutal illness that he—being the absolute lion that he was—just completely ignores. He simply doesn't have the bandwidth for it.
He just doesn't have the time because he’s too busy living 186 miles/h and doing exactly what he loves, always going all out. He isn't sitting there calculating his massive fortune or worrying about how much time he has left.
That’s exactly why everyone seems so terrified whenever he steps into a room, from those bloated Hollywood producers (like that heavy-set Mayer character in the movie) to the incompetent, puffed-up executives over at Pan Am.
It’s hard to capture a personality like that on screen—someone who set the gold standard for aviation and, through sheer Don Quixote-style stubbornness, basically made it possible for regular folks to fly across the USA. Trying to turn dancers and waitresses into overnight superstars is a tall order for any actor.
Honestly, maybe Tim Roth would have nailed it better......
Regardless, HH was a lion in every sense of the word. Since he’s been gone for a while now, it’s high time the critics crawled out of their holes and gave this fallen lion the credit he deserves.
Kudos to the team for putting in the effort to make this film. It might have even hit harder if they had filmed it the way HH lived—without cutting corners and by being a bit more patient when casting the roles. I really think Tim Roth would have been incredible. Still, Leonardo ended up playing it better than I actually expected him to.
😎

Steven Ruiz said:Leonardo was actually stellar, and he was honestly the only bright spot in the entire movie for me. I thought he handled the OCD aspects particularly well (I say that because I deal with mild OCD myself).
As for Cate, she was just terrible (look, I know she won an Oscar, but still).
Her accent felt way too forced, and it really stood out to me.
I just couldn't get past it, and it reached a point where every single scene featuring her completely irritated me.

I am signing my name to all of this. 🙂 Leonardo was great, but whenever those scenes with her came on, I was just fuming. She genuinely irritated me; it’s wild how worked up I got... 😁
Do you really have mild OCD? Sorry for asking, but we have a case in my family so I'm curious. 🙂

I sure do!
If you’re curious about the details, feel free to ask over on the Health forum or just shoot me a private message so we don't clutter up this specific thread...

Yeah, Hugo and I both feel like Tim Roth would have been a way better pick for that role. 👍

I was totally fine with the movie at first, but once they go over to the Hepburn family for lunch? Man, everything after that just turns into a complete disaster. It’s honestly kind of stupid—way too many crowd scenes, way too many extras, and the dialogue is just painfully dumb... ugh, seriously. BUT, that lunch scene is actually interesting, and it was that specific moment that really got under my skin and made me stick around to finish it. Bottom line: it’s not bad. Not at all.

And Cate... I don't know, she just seems so desperate. Her accent feels so forced, and I just couldn't connect with her at all. Honestly, there's something about her that I found physically off-putting, especially looking at Leonardo, who looks like some awkward 13-year-old kid playing his mom.
There’s this one shot where her back is in close-up (right after they fly on the plane and then grab each other on the couch—yeah, that scene), and her back has these little red spots, and her skin just looks old. I swear, it actually made me feel nauseous.
Now, I’m not usually a squeamish person. But seriously.

Alan A. is absolutely stellar though. 👍

As for Scorsese—to me, The Departed was a total miss, and this isn't exactly brilliant either. I have no idea why he latched onto Leonardo like he's some magic solution to a shaky plot... the guy just doesn't make movies like he used to. As things stand now, he's definitely on the decline...

Jeremy Bennett5 said:I watched it. Honestly, it didn't quite hit the mark for me. The acting is solid, but that's not really what I look for in a movie. I think I just went in with expectations that were way too high. It’s the kind of thing that’s perfectly fine for a Saturday night or a Sunday afternoon on ABC, and that’s about it.

Wait, what does "good for a Saturday night" actually mean here? Are we talking about something to help you rock a baby to sleep? Because I was expecting a total "wow" factor! Don't tell me even that isn't worth the watch... 🙄

A movie for Saturday night is just a movie for Saturday night. You watch it, it’s alright, it has its moments, you can sit through it, it passes by, you drift off to sleep, and by tomorrow, it’s already forgotten...

Seriously, it has been a loooooong time since I sat through a movie this deathly boring... It’s rare that I mess up my movie choice this badly. Usually, even if a film isn't great, it's at least watchable... This was just three hours of pure torture.

I honestly can't believe how much people seem to dislike this movie. I was totally blown away! After watching Million Dollar Baby, I genuinely thought this one was a lock for the Oscar for Best Picture. Then I sat through Aviator and realized Eastwood doesn't even come close to being on Scorsese's level.

In my opinion, this should have been the film of the year. Look, I'm not usually a fan of DiCaprio, but he is absolutely phenomenal here. He isn't exactly the type you'd cast as a smooth-talking heartthrob, but man, did he nail that manic energy. As for the women in the cast? Total letdown. Cate really shouldn't have been cast as DiCaprio's love interest; she’d probably be better suited playing his mother. Even Ava felt like a bad choice. Beyond the poor casting of the female leads, the acting just didn't stand out. Cate definitely didn't deserve an Oscar for that role.

As far as filmmaking goes, it's excellent. The direction is top-tier, and honestly, if anyone found this boring, I just don't get them. And obviously, huge props to the cinematography.

Steven Ruiz said:Around the same time, I found myself watching two massive blockbusters back-to-back, Ray and Aviator.
While Ray absolutely blew me away and totally lived up to all the hype—not to mention how thrilled I am that Jamie Foxx snagged his Oscar—Aviator just left me feeling completely indifferent.
It’s not like the movie is a total disaster, but it definitely feels way too long and overhyped for what it actually is.
Certain parts of Hughes' life fly by at lightning speed, while other segments just drag on forever like an endless stretch of highway...
I honestly found myself nodding off in a few spots, and looking around the theater, it seemed like plenty of other people were struggling to stay awake too.
Leonardo was truly spectacular, though, and he was easily the only bright spot in the entire production, especially with how brilliantly he portrayed those moments involving OCD (which I can personally relate to since I deal with mild OCD myself).
On the other hand, I thought Cate was just terrible, and even though I know she won an Oscar for it, I just couldn't get past it.
Her accent felt so forced and labored, which made it incredibly distracting for me.
I just couldn't shake that feeling, and it eventually reached a point where every single scene featuring her started to feel totally irritating...

I am signing on to what boldano said; I particularly agree regarding Cate. She was incredibly irritating—not just because of the accent, but because her entire facial expression, posture, and body language felt completely caricatured.

For comparison, here is the original Katherine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxrYF...eature=related

I've got my hands on some copies of Cateine:
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And besides, she really is such a magnificent actress. 🤷 I sincerely hope that *Aviator* remains the sole blemish on her career.

I am resurrecting this thread from the ashes because I decided to give "Aviator" a third chance tonight. Honestly? It was a waste of time. Even after a third viewing, there is still a bitter taste in my mouth; my opinion of this film hasn't improved one bit. It is, without question, one of the worst films in the Scorsese filmography.
DiCaprio? Please. He was an absolutely wrong choice for the role of Howard. And I’m not even talking about his physical appearance—I'm talking about the acting itself. To me, he comes across like a hamster on speed; just this tiny, hyperactive rodent desperately trying to project the aura of a dangerous predator, like a lion or a tiger, much like his performance in The Departed. Those scenes involving the OCD were particularly unconvincing—that manic hand-washing until the skin bleeds and those sequences in the hotel room were just completely lacking in credibility. 👎

And let's be clear: when you compare "Raya" to "Aviator," Jamie Foxx absolutely earned that Oscar. I’ve never been his biggest fan as an actor, but man, he was phenomenal. He completely transformed into Ray Charles and nailed that performance. 🙏

That’s all from me. I have just one final appeal to make to Scorsese: look, Marty, enough with the constant reliance on DiCaprio. It would be far more productive if you returned to your collaborations with Keitel, De Niro, and Pesci. As for the younger talent, stick with Damon, but for heaven's sake, bring Christian Bale into the mix! 🙂

Scorsese and Caprio have pulled it off yet again.
DiCaprio somehow managed to surprise me—again—just like he always does.
Honestly, I feel like we didn't even see the actual ending of the movie.
It’s like someone went in and chopped the runtime down.
They just couldn't wrap their heads around a guy like Howard back then, either.
He was obsessed with aviation—he was actually brilliant at it—which apparently made him a bit too much of a threat
to the competition.

Scorsese and Caprio are absolutely killing it,
especially Leo.