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The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Marcus Nispel)

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Participants Douglas Edwards2Anthony BaileyAMegan ReedLawrence Booth2quietdriver3Brian Foster2slylynx16Jeremy Bishop5crimsonmoose3Jose White62Noah Gonzalez7Sean Nguyen4Walter Fowler53Ethan Perez97Roger Allen3slyrider16Jose Chase2copperridge912Gregory Smith8Rebecca Myers38Zachary Castillo17silentmason15Henry Perez4 …
Zachary Castillo17 Zachary Castillo17 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2003
#61 ·
That movie was bad... seriously bad. The main characters were just boring, uninspired, and I couldn't find a single reason to actually root for them. Total garbage.

Someone mentioned Wrong Turn earlier? That one is even worse!

I don't know... my biggest gripe with horror movies is how passive the protagonists are. They spend most of their time doing such incredibly stupid things that I eventually just find myself wishing they'd die already.

Like, in The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, when that woman walks up to those two girls in the cabin and realizes they aren't even reacting to anything she's saying—the smart move would have been: "No thanks, I'll pass on the tea!"

Or, slightly off-topic, but take Wrong Turn—if you're out in the woods, you just pee in the woods. You don't trek halfway across some damn mountain just to find an abandoned shack to use as a restroom. I never understood that trope in American movies; if you stumble upon a house, you just go inside... what a joke.

I'm honestly just a little annoyed... UGH!
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#62 ·
Ethan Perez97 said:You really have to consider both sides. For instance, Cronenberg’s The Fly is a remake, and honestly, it’s one of the best horror films ever made.🙂


You think so? Fair enough. I can wrap my head around something like The Fly or those pieces of 1930s trash, but these others? A remake blog? House of Wax (featuring Paris Hilton 🙂)? Or that recent remake of the Pretazanje? That police station raid from Friday the 13th?
Look, I don't have an issue with remakes in general—it's not like I'm some animal rights activist—but what bothers me is that they're clearly just cash grabs produced by talentless Hollywood hacks who take a perfectly good original and turn it into garbage.
And regarding the Chainsaw... the difference between the original and the remake is that in the original, you actually see the pain on screen, from the wounds to the broken legs... Even though it's thirty years old, it remains a great horror film, even if it doesn't carry quite the same weight it did back in 1973...
Anthony Bailey Anthony Bailey Regular
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joined May 2003
#63 ·
Zachary Castillo17 said:This movie is garbage... Seriously. The leads are boring, uninspired, and I didn't feel even a shred of empathy for them. Total crap.

Maybe the director was trying to pull a psychological stunt here, subtly suggesting it's perfectly fine to just feast on strangers when the characters are presented as nothing more than unfortunate victims.
😱
Ethan Perez97 Ethan Perez97 Active Member
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joined Aug 2005
#64 ·
cro Fag said:maybe the director wanted to subconsciously suggest that there's nothing wrong with picking on strangers, especially when the victims are presented as such unfortunate souls...
😱

Look, even the original didn't bother with any real characterization; honestly, the only thing I felt any sympathy for was the kid in the stroller...
silentmason15 silentmason15 Member
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joined Jan 2007
#65 ·
I don't know... I just can't stand how passive the main characters in these horror flicks are. They spend most of the time doing such incredibly stupid stuff that honestly, half the time I'm just sitting there wishing they'd just die already.

by Zachary Castillo17

hehehe, exactly. I don't remember the original all that well since I saw it when I was just a kid, but as far as the remake goes, I actually thought it was pretty solid. Everyone's always hunting for perfect logic, but let's be real—there isn't a single slasher out there that's 100% logical. As long as the plot holes are kept to a reasonable level, the shots look good, and the soundtrack hits right, you're golden. It’s not exactly rocket science, right?
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#66 ·
Ethan Perez97 said:Look, even the original didn't really bother with characterization. My only sympathy went to that kid in the wheelchair.

That guy was easily the worst part of the whole thing. Aside from his obsession with groping women, he isn't a particularly interesting character; he just exists to fill up screen time. Honestly, I felt more for the disabled character in Friday the 13th—if I recall correctly, it was the second installment—who ended up taking an axe to the head...😢
Zachary Castillo17 Zachary Castillo17 Newcomer
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#67 ·
Look, I’m not out here hunting for perfect logic or some deep, intellectual manifesto.
I just want these characters to act like actual human beings. I want them to feel the adrenaline! Because once that rush hits, everything else follows suit.

Honestly, though, looking back, I kind of resent how little they seem to fear anything.
Take that scene in TTCM where they stumble upon that abandoned factory; they hear something echoing from inside and the girl just marches right in to investigate. It feels so mindless. I don't know... maybe I'm just being too hard on them.

After sitting with it for a bit, I’ve realized that Alien is actually a great example of how it should be done. In that movie, people weren't just standing around being passive and dim-witted. Sure, there were exceptions, but generally speaking, everyone grabs a gun and starts fighting for their lives. They run. They scramble. No one is acting like some fearless, untouchable superhero.
That’s what feels real! (Though, let’s be honest... "real" and Alien... it’s a stretch) 😉
silentmason15 silentmason15 Member
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joined Jan 2007
#68 ·
Zachary Castillo17, check my previous post. Right at the top, I made it clear that I totally AGREE with the part I quoted, okay? The rest of my rant was actually aimed at some other guys on the forum.👍
Henry Perez4 Henry Perez4 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2006
#69 ·
The movie is actually based on a true story😈
Joshua Johnson67 Joshua Johnson67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2006
#70 ·
Quote:Nah, definitely not...
Henry Perez4 says:
this movie is based on a true story😈
not even close...
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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joined Sep 2022
#71 ·
It’s all just an urban legend at this point
Henry Perez4 Henry Perez4 Newcomer
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#72 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnzSEi8EoU
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#73 ·
It’s loosely based on true events. They drew inspiration from Ed Gein, the killer who famously crafted furniture out of human skin. Back then, there was a massive wave of horror films like The Hills Have Eyes involving hillbillies hunting people down. Tobe Hooper essentially leaned into that atmosphere, deciding to make a film about Texans on a derelict estate slaughtering unsuspecting travelers. He tapped into the local paranoia surrounding the Ed Gein murders. So, it's more of an urban legend fueled by bits of true crime...

Also, I realize you're new here, but what's with this idiotic topic?
Henry Perez4 Henry Perez4 Newcomer
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#74 ·
crimsonmoose3 said:Besides, I can tell you're new here, but what's the point of this idiotic thread?

Given how many idiots are out there, is it really a mystery why I feel this way?
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#75 ·
Henry Perez4 said:how many idiots suspect it's mine

You could have at least tried to write more than a single sentence. 🙄 Or maybe just drop the link right away. Besides, that whole bit about The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is ancient history. Everyone already knows...
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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joined Sep 2022
#76 ·
isn't Texas older than the hills
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
310 messages
joined Jun 2006
#77 ·
Lawrence Booth2 said:Isn't Texas older than the hills?

Besides, it didn't even belong to Americans back then—it belonged to Mexico. The US just snatched it away and played the hero in Alam...
Anthony Bailey Anthony Bailey Regular
271 messages
joined May 2003
#78 ·
Ethan Perez97 said:I wasn't aware of that, send me a link if you have one...

It’s been nearly two years, but here’s the link.
😬

Sorry for the wait.
😬

First, here's the text from the forum where I found this:
The family of cannibal cavedwellers was The Sawney Beane family of Scotland. The folklore has them living anywhere from 13th century to 17th century. Sawney Beane and his wife lived in a cave. They fed on human flesh. They had 14 children who themselves had 22 children. The inbred clan survived for 25 years by ambushing travelers, stealing from them, then killing them and dragging their bodies back to the cave for food. They went undetected because their cave was seaside and at high tide the cave opening was covered by the water. 25 years into the clan's existence they ambushed a husband and wife. They killed and disemboweled the wife while struggling to knock the man off his horse. A group of other people on horseback happened onto the attack and the clan fled. The surviving husband and the witnesses reported back to the authorities and the King himself took 400 soldiers to search for The clan. They knew they had to be local because of the locations of the missing person disappearances and where salted and pickled rotten body parts used to wash up on shore (when the "meat" got too old they threw it out). Anyway, the king and his men found The Cavo with All 48 Sawney Beanes in IT. Story has it that the walls of the huge cave were lined with the carcasses of male and female body parts hanging to dry like in a meat packing plant. All 48 Sawney Beanes were executed. The men were disemboweled and had their legs and arms cut off and were left to bleed to death while the women watched. The women were burned to death. And so the story goes.

Hey Lojeda, I'm Scottish and you're pretty much All correct about The Sawney beane Story, but unfortunately, it ain't true. It 's an urban legend (for instance, there's no official record of either the crimes, or the fact that the King himself led the search party - whihc would definitely have been documented). It's a shame because it's a damn good story and would make the basis for a good historical horror movie.


Here's the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexand...Sawney%22_Bean

http://tarlton.law.utexas.edu/lpop/e...gate/beane.htm

http://www.oceanstar.com/horror/sawney.htm
boldlynx2 boldlynx2 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#79 ·
Honestly, I wasn't really feeling this one. It was pretty stomach-turning—just endless scenes of them slicing people up and then stitching them back together. Pretty gross, if you ask me.
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
310 messages
joined Jun 2006
#80 ·
boldlynx2 said:Honestly, I wasn't really feeling this one. It was pretty stomach-turning—just endless scenes of them slicing people up and then stitching them back together. Pretty gross, if you ask me.

You’re probably thinking of the remake sequel, right?

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