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Lost in translation

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Participants northernseal6redgull44Noah Murphy46slyrider16Melissa Moore32Justin PatelAmanda Jackson10Maria Stewart57Steven Hernandez9Christian Cox58Christian Sanchez44Kyle White2Jessica Nguyen85casualotter21Susan Wright12Richard Hernandez13Douglas Edwards2slyjackal9silentpuma25blueranger12silentharbor88jadetinker85Jose Miller3Chloe Garcia98 …
slyjackal9 slyjackal9 Member
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joined Apr 2003
#41 ·
Just one word: W O W.

I honestly can't believe there’s a more successful movie out there from 2003. In every single sense of the word, it's just peerless. I’d love to sit here and deconstruct it, but does it even make sense to try? At the end of the day, it's such a deeply personal experience. Besides, I don't even know if I could find the right words to capture the total sensation that Lost in Translation leaves you with. It has been a long, long time since I walked out of a theater feeling quite like this.

I'm struggling to find anything else to add. Bill Murray—with this performance alone—completely eclipses everything he’s ever done. He has his signature style, and sure, some might say he's playing the same type of character, but right here, the sheer sincerity and naturalism of his approach breathes a perfect kind of freshness into a worn-out archetype. And Scarlett—I mean, is there anyone else who could have played that role better? Then there's Sofia Coppola—both for the screenplay and the direction... she managed to capture a fundamental human truth, a slice of our existence that is so honest and raw in its essence that recognizing it can feel almost painful and bitter. Ultimately, I think it's a universal film. It isn't foreign to anyone. You just need to approach it with a little bit of heart, because really, it's a story about all of us.

I honestly don't know if we'll see something like this again anytime soon.
silentpuma25 silentpuma25 Member
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joined Apr 2003
#42 ·
Watched it last night.
Such a beautiful movie—really special, you know?
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
100 messages
joined Dec 2005
#43 ·
W O W

slyjackal9 always nails how a movie feels for me..
Richard Hernandez13 and Blueelaa aren't far off.

You said it right, this is more of an experience. I honestly can't put my finger on why this film hit so hard, other than just listing it out: great acting, the vibe, just drifting through scene after scene.. What blew me away was exactly what was missing—all those things Jessica Nguyen85 and Ramona constantly need for a movie to work for them. This film is 100% unpretentious. It’s easy, breezy, like a spring breeze through your hair 😍 Why aren't there more female directors? Is that what makes it feel this way? You could tell the dialogue was intentionally stripped back. No deep philosophy, no witty jokes, no massive insights into the characters' souls. Totally surface-level. But something was shaking me from the inside, and I don't even know what 😁 Best romance I've ever seen. And this movie doesn't even try to hide the fact that it's a romance. But man, what a romance..

If you hated this, you clearly have no heart! 😁 Now I'm just feeling bitter.
redgull44 redgull44 Member
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joined Sep 2003
#44 ·
blueranger12 said:It’s pleasant, as pleasant as a spring breeze blowing through your hair.😍

😁 😁 😁
I guess we’re just sitting here daydreaming, completely misunderstood by everyone else. 😉 😁
The rest of them just can't wrap their heads around something that's this beautiful, yet so small, effortless, subtle, and natural.
👋
Anyway, I'm going to go back to my daydreaming now.
silentharbor88 silentharbor88 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#45 ·
The movie is decent—nothing more, nothing less. If nothing else, getting to watch an American film that isn't packed with violence, blood, or sex feels almost like a minor miracle.

It’s obviously not the kind of flick action junkies will enjoy, and there are stretches where the pacing drags along like an asthmatic snail with a broken foot trying to haul a load three times its own weight up a steep hill. That said, I suppose the intention was to mirror the pervasive sense of boredom that seems to seep into the very pores of the main characters.

Basically, we're looking at the story of a middle-aged screw-up who has completely dropped the ball on life; he missed his kid's birthday, cheated on his wife by falling for someone else, and then pulled a double cross by cheating on both his wife and his new flame with some lounge singer. It could have taken a much darker turn—he could have ended up in bed with a married woman decades younger than himself—but apparently, that's not the focal point here. The real protagonist of this film is *BOREDOM*, and we get a front-row seat to what happens to people once it finally catches up with them. Honestly, I think I would have been better off if it hadn't caught me, too. (Though, to be fair, even the most tedious Star Trek episode manages to squeeze in a little action.)

As for the whole concept of a chance encounter, it certainly isn't anything groundbreaking, as it's been explored quite often under much different premises, like in that classic film we used to call Brief Encounter. That one centers on a man and a woman meeting by accident at a train station while he's waiting for a connection on his way to work, and they just happen to cross paths... and so on.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#46 ·
It’s a solid film... they really nailed those characters, like two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl. Twice.
silentharbor88 silentharbor88 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#47 ·
I just wanted to add that you shouldn't take the movie title too literally; instead, think of Japan as a grand allegory for life itself. It’s really about two people who find themselves adrift in their own existence—sort of like being stuck in separate little fishbowls 🙂 👍—or just feeling lost in the wider world they inhabit. Since philosophy isn't exactly my specialty, I'll leave the heavy lifting of deep analysis to the experts here. (You know, all that stuff about alienation, the struggle to truly communicate, and how even when things change, certain habits remain—like how that bald singer still brushes her hair the exact same way. 🙂)
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#48 ·
It’s such a shame so much space in this thread is being wasted on petty bickering about whether the movie is actually good or not. For me, it was obvious right from the jump—the number of people who love this flick is going to be exactly equal to the number of people who absolutely hate it!

Personally, I thought it was great...

I just wanted to ask: what do you guys think she’s saying at the end? Is that even important? Do you even want to know?

PS: I like Japan more than the rest of Asia because Buddhism is really big there! Why was I the only person in the theater laughing after that line????
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#49 ·
Jose Miller3 said:PS: Personally, I’ve always felt a stronger connection to Japan than the rest of Asia, mostly because Buddhism plays such a massive role there. Why was I the only person in China laughing after I said that?

Maybe you were the only one in the theater who actually realized that sentence was total nonsense. 😉 😁
Douglas Edwards2 Douglas Edwards2 Member
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joined Mar 2004
#50 ·
Jose Miller3 said:It’s such a shame you guys wasted so much space on this thread just bickering over whether the movie is actually good or not. Honestly, it was obvious to me from the jump that the number of people who love this thing will be exactly equal to the number of people who absolutely hate it!

Those are some pretty heavy words... I mean, why would anyone actually HATE a movie? Personally, I liked it, though it wasn't exactly a "breathless masterpiece" kind of experience for me. I recently watched "The Notebook"—it’s such a beautiful, touching love story, highly recommend it. 👍
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#51 ·
silentharbor88 said:Philosophy isn't really my lane, so I'll leave the heavy lifting to the experts.

I don't know, I feel like there isn't much philosophy in this movie. 😕

Yeah, back when Bill Murray was at his tallest in that elevator scene, or even when he was in the shower—that's when you should've played "Big in Japan" by Alphaville. But man, My Bloody Valentine and Jesus and Mary Chain absolutely floored me! Woohoo!
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#52 ·
Melissa Moore32 said:Maybe you were the only one in the theater who realized that line was total nonsense.😉 😁


THE ONLY ONE? Out of two hundred people? I mean, what was everyone else doing—staring at their shoes or just completely checking out their brains?
Chloe Garcia98 Chloe Garcia98 Active Member
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joined May 2009
#53 ·
silentharbor88 said:......
The notion that the concept behind Brief Encounter is anything even remotely original is completely unfounded; it’s nothing more than a recycled premise, albeit one presented through much different circumstances in that film we used to call "Life is Beautiful."Brief Encounter It’s essentially a series of Brief Encounters between a man and a woman at a train station, where he happens to be catching a connecting train and is forced to kill some time waiting for his next ride. That's where they cross paths, meet, and everything unfolds from there.

"Brief Encounter" is an absolute masterpiece. There is simply no contest. In my opinion, it stands as the finest film ever directed by Leanov. I found myself completely captivated by Trevor Howard. 😍Off-topic: I can't help but wonder when our garbage TV networks will finally decide to air a legitimate retrospective of British or French cinema from that era. Instead of actually offering some substance, they just keep cycling through the same tired reruns of Rambo and Lethal Weapon for the millionth time.

If this Coppola film manages to capture even a fraction of that Leanov essence, then credit where credit is due: kudos to Sofia.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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joined Feb 2003
#54 ·
Jose Miller3 said:I just wanted to ask: what do you all think she actually tells him at the end? Does it even matter? Do you even want to know?

The fact that we never actually hear what Bill Murray says to Scarlett Johansson is, in my opinion, a brilliant move. It would have been incredibly difficult for him to say anything without someone immediately rolling their eyes and calling it a cheap cliché. I find this version much more effective because it allows everyone to imagine their own perfectly unique, beautiful moment. 🙂
Robert Cooper41 Robert Cooper41 Member
47 messages
joined Dec 2002
#55 ·
A movie that kicks off and wraps up with the music of Kevin Shields (ex My Bloody Valentine) simply cannot be any kind of failure. 😁 😁
Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
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joined Jul 2003
#56 ·
I think this version works way better for me. It leaves enough space for anyone to imagine their own perfectly poetic statement.

"Be Your Own Screenwriter," the new book by Sofia Coppola, because apparently 'Screenwriting for Dummies' is her trademark. 😁
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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joined May 2004
#57 ·
Robert Cooper41 said:Honestly, if a movie starts and ends with the music of Kevin Shields (ex My Bloody Valentine), there is just no way it can be any kind of bad. It’s basically a guarantee at that point! 😁 😁

The FM4 station I listen to over here actually has this one show called... Guest room Imagine this scenario where a celebrity guest gets the mic for about an hour to spin whatever tracks they feel like playing. Just last month, our DJ was actually the daughter of Francis Ford Coppola, and let me tell you, she really proved that she has some incredibly interesting musical taste.
silentharbor88 silentharbor88 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#58 ·
Jose Miller3 said:Only one? Out of two hundred people? I mean, what were the rest of them doing—just sitting there staring blankly at their screens with their eyes, ears, and brains completely shut off?

Maybe they were just catching some Z's. 😈
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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joined Feb 2003
#59 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:"Be Your Own Screenwriter," the new book by Sofia Coppola, because apparently "Screenwriting for Dummies" is her trademark.😁

But I suppose you aren't actually bitter, are you?
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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joined May 2004
#60 ·
Here is Sofia's playlist, just in case anyone is looking for some inspiration.

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