Joe Biden: Was America defended by uneducated peasants?

Why did Ryan Vaughn7 shut this thread down? Is it because he can't stand seeing anyone actually question the Party instead of bowing down to it?

Is there any actual footage out there to back up that claim?
If there is, I don't see why we shouldn't be talking about it.

Maybe if you actually provide the video as proof, they'll realize they messed up and finally reopen the discussion.

Keith Rivera3 said:Why did Ryan Vaughn7 shut this thread down? Is it because he can't stand seeing anyone actually question the Party instead of bowing down to it?

Exactly. I only have patience for threads that actually celebrate the struggle.

Gary Perez7 said:Is there any actual footage out there to back up that claim?
If there is, I don't see why we shouldn't be talking about it.

Maybe if you actually provide the video as proof, they'll realize they messed up and finally reopen the discussion.

Yes, the footage exists, and the link was included in the opening post. (Perhaps you should try checking there first?)

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Exactly. I only have patience for threads that actually celebrate the struggle.

You can play the wit if you like, but your criteria reveal your true colors perfectly well.
It’s an embarrassment to this forum—just as it would be to any other community attempting to call itself a democratic space.

On a different note, my view is that the attacks on Joe Biden here are entirely unfounded, primarily because the full context of his remarks remains unknown.

Think of it this way: if we assume, contrary to the accusations, that he was actually honoring the working class and the uneducated for defending America—if we treat his use of the word "elite" as sarcasm, and if we believe he was offering a self-critical admission that he didn't personally fight on the front lines—then once you listen to the recording, everything aligns seamlessly.

So, it could easily swing either way...

Since we lack the preceding and following remarks, it is impossible to assert with any certainty what his true intention was.

The fundamental issue with our dear President is his boundless arrogance; rather than preparing his speeches with enough rigor to ensure they aren't misconstrued, he insists on acting more brilliant and "spontaneous" than everyone else, which inevitably leads to those incredibly clumsy and foolish gaffes.

Some might label him a master rhetorician... To me, it’s almost comical, given the endless stream of "misunderstandings" triggered by his supposed oratorical skills.

redhawk76 said:Yes, the footage exists, and the link was included in the opening post. (Perhaps you should try checking there first?)

You can play the wit if you like, but your criteria reveal your true colors perfectly well.
It’s an embarrassment to this forum—just as it would be to any other community attempting to call itself a democratic space.

On a different note, my view is that the attacks on Joe Biden here are entirely unfounded, primarily because the full context of his remarks remains unknown.

Think of it this way: if we assume, contrary to the accusations, that he was actually honoring the working class and the uneducated for defending America—if we treat his use of the word "elite" as sarcasm, and if we believe he was offering a self-critical admission that he didn't personally fight on the front lines—then once you listen to the recording, everything aligns seamlessly.

So, it could easily swing either way...

Since we lack the preceding and following remarks, it is impossible to assert with any certainty what his true intention was.

The fundamental issue with our dear President is his boundless arrogance; rather than preparing his speeches with enough rigor to ensure they aren't misconstrued, he insists on acting more brilliant and "spontaneous" than everyone else, which inevitably leads to those incredibly clumsy and foolish gaffes.

Some might label him a master rhetorician... To me, it’s almost comical, given the endless stream of "misunderstandings" triggered by his supposed oratorical skills.

Humorous or not, I’m just not interested in answering questions where the verdict has already been handed down. That guy above, and you too, both seem to have decided why this topic is closed before I even speak. I wouldn't want to get in the way of your certainties. Have fun.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Humorous or not, I’m just not interested in answering questions where the verdict has already been handed down. That guy above, and you too, both seem to have decided why this topic is closed before I even speak. I wouldn't want to get in the way of your certainties. Have fun.

Why is it closed? Here’s what I see: I take the same shots at Karamarko as I do at Joe Biden, and I criticize the Republican Party just as hard as those other little fringe parties. Yet, I’ve never even gotten a warning for criticizing the big guys—let alone a ban. But the second I write anything about that red bourgeoisie, I get flagged—by you, by the mods, by Frankrst, the whole lot of them. It seems any thread where we actually critique the Party or its cronies is strictly off-limits. What else am I supposed to conclude? It’s pretty obvious who’s on the payroll over at the political headquarters.

Keith Rivera3 said:Why is it closed? Here’s what I see: I take the same shots at Karamarko as I do at Joe Biden, and I criticize the Republican Party just as hard as those other little fringe parties. Yet, I’ve never even gotten a warning for criticizing the big guys—let alone a ban. But the second I write anything about that red bourgeoisie, I get flagged—by you, by the mods, by Frankrst, the whole lot of them. It seems any thread where we actually critique the Party or its cronies is strictly off-limits. What else am I supposed to conclude? It’s pretty obvious who’s on the payroll over at the political headquarters.

Because it’s manipulative. You have this audio that lacks any visual context—it sounds like something recorded secretly, where you can't tell if it was edited or what the actual setting was. It feels like something cooked up in some low-rent junk shop with zero credibility. Well, we run a serious forum here.

By the way, I took a moment—don't call me lazy—to look into your "persecution." It turns out you spend your time calling people cowards, brainless hacks, partisans, or fascists. Are the moderators responsible for that too?

I’m actually glad you showed up. Honestly, I wouldn't have even noticed you with 55 warnings in a single year; you really are a blessing. I'm starting the process to have you partially banned so you stop polluting the political section of this forum with your repulsive theories. We don't need people like you.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Because it’s manipulative. You have this audio that lacks any visual context—it sounds like something recorded secretly, where you can't tell if it was edited or what the actual setting was. It feels like something cooked up in some low-rent junk shop with zero credibility. Well, we run a serious forum here.

By the way, I took a moment—don't call me lazy—to look into your "persecution." It turns out you spend your time calling people cowards, brainless hacks, partisans, or fascists. Are the moderators responsible for that too?

I’m actually glad you showed up. Honestly, I wouldn't have even noticed you with 55 warnings in a single year; you really are a blessing. I'm starting the process to have you partially banned so you stop polluting the political section of this forum with your repulsive theories. We don't need people like you.

It's the same old story—the Party sues you, the Party judges you... honestly, I shouldn't have expected anything else.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Because it’s manipulative. You have this audio that lacks any visual context—it sounds like something recorded secretly, where you can't tell if it was edited or what the actual setting was. It feels like something cooked up in some low-rent junk shop with zero credibility. Well, we run a serious forum here.

By the way, I took a moment—don't call me lazy—to look into your "persecution." It turns out you spend your time calling people cowards, brainless hacks, partisans, or fascists. Are the moderators responsible for that too?

I’m actually glad you showed up. Honestly, I wouldn't have even noticed you with 55 warnings in a single year; you really are a blessing. I'm starting the process to have you partially banned so you stop polluting the political section of this forum with your repulsive theories. We don't need people like you.

I really wish more of the higher-ups would step in. This isn't the first slip-up from Edga. He’s constantly disrespecting anyone who doesn't agree with him, which is obvious in this post. He acts all high and mighty, judging everyone as if he were Nica, Dorian, or the owner of the site itself.
He’s calling Mr. Bujanac a Nazi, which could actually land this forum a defamation lawsuit.
This isn't the first time Edga has acted like this. I'm asking the administration to please take action and remove Edga. With his tone, his vulgarity, his threats, and the way he insults any user who doesn't share his views, he hasn't earned the right to be a supermod.
I reported the post properly, so I'm just waiting for the admins to do their jobs.

granitefalcon26 said:I really wish more of the higher-ups would step in. This isn't the first slip-up from Edga. He’s constantly disrespecting anyone who doesn't agree with him, which is obvious in this post. He acts all high and mighty, judging everyone as if he were Nica, Dorian, or the owner of the site itself.
He’s calling Mr. Bujanac a Nazi, which could actually land this forum a defamation lawsuit.
This isn't the first time Edga has acted like this. I'm asking the administration to please take action and remove Edga. With his tone, his vulgarity, his threats, and the way he insults any user who doesn't share his views, he hasn't earned the right to be a supermod.
I reported the post properly, so I'm just waiting for the admins to do their jobs.

Honestly, Mr. Bujanec doesn't have the bandwidth for lawsuits over, *sniff*, some juvenile Nazi delusions. He’s much more preoccupied with his night out and working out payment terms with his attorney.

Could you please just be a decent human being for once? Instead of hiding behind Bujanac and his constant antics, why not just speak up plainly and say what is clearly obvious to anyone who actually follows politics?

I think you've gone too far here; you seem perfectly fine letting Joe Biden get dragged through the mud to a certain extent, but now you're deciding this is where the line is drawn. If that's your stance, then at least have the courage to state it directly, rather than trying to shut down the conversation by bringing up delusions and cocaine—topics that have absolutely nothing to do with what Joe Biden actually said.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Honestly, Mr. Bujanec doesn't have the bandwidth for lawsuits over, *sniff*, some juvenile Nazi delusions. He’s much more preoccupied with his night out and working out payment terms with his attorney.

Well, isn't this just the peak level of communication we can expect from a top-tier supermod? Great job! 👏

granitefalcon26 said:Well, isn't this just the peak level of communication we can expect from a top-tier supermod? Great job! 👏

There isn't actually a valid reason to shut this thread down—if we were following the rules strictly, he'd have to close every single similar discussion on the site too. Instead, he’s left us with nothing but insults, some pretty weak attempts at humor, and outright threats. But I suppose there's a certain clarity in that, isn't there? When someone has to resort to such tactics, doesn't it just make their true intentions perfectly obvious?

Keith Miller30 said:Could you please just be a decent human being for once? Instead of hiding behind Bujanac and his constant antics, why not just speak up plainly and say what is clearly obvious to anyone who actually follows politics?

I think you've gone too far here; you seem perfectly fine letting Joe Biden get dragged through the mud to a certain extent, but now you're deciding this is where the line is drawn. If that's your stance, then at least have the courage to state it directly, rather than trying to shut down the conversation by bringing up delusions and cocaine—topics that have absolutely nothing to do with what Joe Biden actually said.

I guess I'll just stay the bad guy forever, then. Scum.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:I guess I'll just stay the bad guy forever, then. Scum.

And I suspect you're sitting there feeling quite pleased with yourself because you decided to shut this whole thread down. ☕

But seriously, looking at this objectively, none of it really adds up, does it? It seems to me that whenever an idea doesn't align with your specific ideology, you simply choose to ban it or scrub it away. Isn't that exactly what someone like Bujanec does during his broadcast, even if he happens to sit on the complete opposite side of the political spectrum from you?

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Honestly, Mr. Bujanec doesn't have the bandwidth for lawsuits over, *sniff*, some juvenile Nazi delusions. He’s much more preoccupied with his night out and working out payment terms with his attorney.

And frankly, even Joe Biden doesn't have the time to sue the criminal, totalitarian communist party he used to belong to.
He’s probably out partying right alongside Bujanec, and since opposites attract, who knows? Maybe they end up sharing a suite at some high-end hotel together.

Just read through Joe Biden's gems and stop trying to convince yourself that this audio recording was "edited and taken out of context."

Joe Biden has his own agenda to deal with; this is just ten or fifteen seconds of audio stripped of any context. I fail to see why this warrants an entirely new thread.