Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

The machine's barely ever run this hard, and weirdly enough, it’s never been this clear. You couldn't read anything bad about Hillary, but nothing good about Trump either. Still, the polls were calling it a dead heat regardless.

And I'm guessing Hillary lost because of Sanders.

Conservative options in any country have a built-in, loyal voter base—that’s basically the only constant you get. The other side only really starts mobilizing when these guys screw up big time or if they stumble upon some messiah candidate, like Obama. I mean, even with ten million fewer votes than Obama, he still pulled massive numbers, and that was against a ridiculous guy like Trump, who honestly pulled the lowest numbers of any Republican ever 😁 so what are people actually gonna vote for with her? All she’s bringing to the table is the "hey, I'm a woman" angle, and she's such a bland, forgettable candidate. Clearly, that wasn't enough to move the needle. The Black population basically just showed everyone what they really think of them—they're just a flock following the leader. They didn't even bother showing up to the polls; it's like they don't give a damn unless the candidate happens to be Black, so why even break a sweat 🙂

And we haven't even heard the biggest scoop yet—who on earth did Monica Lewinsky vote for? ☕

So, out of all those voter groups you listed—honestly, only the 'conservatives' seem to have zero critical thinking skills... they’re just blindly loyal to their side, even when their candidate looks like a total clown. I guess "herd mentality" is probably the most accurate label for them.

Every single news outlet is out here screaming about the apocalypse, but if you actually look at Hillary’s track record, you’re just looking at a soulless, corrupt politician whose foreign policy was so predictable even Bush wouldn't have had much to complain about. Sure, Trump is a disaster, but I’m honestly not convinced he’s any more of a villain than Hillary is.

The same old conservatives in the US gave Trump a record-low turnout, so you tell me.

Generally speaking, this whole "lesser of two evils" campaign strategy has been an absolute train wreck across almost all of America. You self-proclaimed civilized politicians from the center and the left are going to have to actually come up with some tangible ideas and actual policy platforms, because scaring voters by labeling everyone else a "fascist" just isn't cutting it anymore.

If there's one silver lining I can find in all of this, it's the fact that Biden and Hillary had been.

The real issue isn't that they voted for Trump—it’s that they were voting against whatever the alternative was offering. It’s a dead end, long-term—once reality sets in and they realize he isn't what they expected, they'll find out they didn't just get nothing, they actually messed things up—think Brexit. Unfortunately, the other side put forward the wrong guy, someone who really shouldn't have been in the running. If a candidate without a million scandals showed up, they probably would've swept the election, but instead, we're stuck with this. Personally, I'm not losing sleep over it—nothing much is going to change. He'll build that wall just to line the pockets of his construction buddies and himself. Maybe he'll ease tensions with Russia, though whether anyone actually lets him do that is debatable. He doesn't have enough leverage to dictate foreign policy—there are far more powerful players than some figurehead sitting in the Oval Office.

Anthony Jackson2 said:The real issue isn't that they voted for Trump—it’s that they were voting against whatever the alternative was offering. It’s a dead end, long-term—once reality sets in and they realize he isn't what they expected, they'll find out they didn't just get nothing, they actually messed things up—think Brexit. Unfortunately, the other side put forward the wrong guy, someone who really shouldn't have been in the running. If a candidate without a million scandals showed up, they probably would've swept the election, but instead, we're stuck with this. Personally, I'm not losing sleep over it—nothing much is going to change. He'll build that wall just to line the pockets of his construction buddies and himself. Maybe he'll ease tensions with Russia, though whether anyone actually lets him do that is debatable. He doesn't have enough leverage to dictate foreign policy—there are far more powerful players than some figurehead sitting in the Oval Office.

Long-term, none of these choices actually get us anywhere, and that's the fundamental problem. On one side, you've got the radical right wing (think Brexit or Trump), and on the other, a stagnant status quo that has zero intention of changing (like the EU or Hillary Clinton). It’s pretty obvious that "choosing the lesser of two evils" isn't a real solution. We need a third option altogether.

Unfortunately, the other side ended up fielding someone who had no business being in that race to begin with. If they had put forward someone without a mountain of scandals trailing behind them, they probably would have crushed Trump. Instead, we’re stuck with what we have.

Exactly. When you stop to think about how the primary argument against Bernie Sanders was basically just "well, Hillary will beat Trump first," it really puts things into perspective. 🤦

Maybe things would actually start making sense if the Leftists decided to reconnect with their actual power base—you know, the working class.

Just a thought. As far as I'm concerned, they don't need it. Honestly, it'd be better if they didn't. ☕

There was actually a much more legitimate reason to be terrified back when a fool like George W. Bush was chosen. Trump is just going to steer the ship the way he always does, so we can probably expect some minor skirmishes and perhaps a tighter cooperation with Russia to deal with China and the Taliban. I don't have much to say against this particular guy.

Their entire political system is fundamentally broken, and this is simply another inevitable symptom of that decay. As for who takes the reins next, I suspect Chelsea Clinton will eventually become our first female president, whether it happens before or after that jerk Bush family settles things.

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The current trends are certainly fascinating; the sheer frivolity and idiocy being pumped out by social media—working hand-in-hand with a traditional political establishment that seems to have driven itself straight into a dead end—are starting to yield significant and quite unexpected political outcomes. We see it everywhere, from the West Coast all the way through our own backyard. For the moment, everything remains within the realm of the predictable, but one has to wonder: what comes next? Surely, the power brokers behind the scenes aren't just going to sit idly by while the landscape shifts.

So what now? Things have been quiet on the front lines for way too long... time to get back at it.

Selecting a president is essentially no different from voting in a beauty pageant. You simply cast your ballot for whichever candidate happens to be more aesthetically pleasing or perhaps the one who managed to utter more of the specific buzzwords you were hoping to hear.
Ultimately, when we look at the grand scheme of things, determining whether Trump or Hillary holds the title of "Miss America" is an utterly trivial matter; it truly doesn't matter. It is just as if the President were constantly issuing sharp condemnations or engaging in pedantic disagreements just for the sake of having something to say... she might even call a press conference merely to recite her latest grievances, simply because it provides an immediate sense of relief. 🙂

ruggedjackal46 said:Generally speaking, this whole "lesser of two evils" campaign strategy has been an absolute train wreck across almost all of America. You self-proclaimed civilized politicians from the center and the left are going to have to actually come up with some tangible ideas and actual policy platforms, because scaring voters by labeling everyone else a "fascist" just isn't cutting it anymore.

If there's one silver lining I can find in all of this, it's the fact that Biden and Hillary had been.

There are no real ideas or programs, just a bunch of empty slogans. It feels like they're just moving air because they can't even identify the core issues, let alone fix them. Trump really tapped into the heart of what's happening in America, much like how Brexit supporters did over in the UK. The standard of living isn't growing, and the current level is mostly being propped up by mass immigration to drive down costs and fill jobs nobody else wants. Or through outsourcing. It feels like trying to patch a sinking ship with a Band-Aid. As for the US, it's pretty clear we've all watched plenty of American movies and shows. For example, back in the 1920s, how was Ford able to build that famous Model T entirely in America and sell it at a price regular citizens could actually afford? Now, they say factories have to shut down in Detroit—which is a city with below-average incomes, so according to modern economic policy, it's supposedly "competitive"? It doesn't seem that different from many other parts of our country. Factories closed down, replaced by retail jobs in shopping malls that barely pay enough to survive on. About 53% of adults in America have less than $1,000 in their bank accounts. Everyone is just living on credit.

I was honestly floored by the sheer amount of money poured into these campaigns—$1.3 billion for Clinton and nearly $800 million for Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...paign-finance/

That’s over $12 billion, which means there's going to be a mountain of debt that someone eventually has to pay back. On top of that, Trump will probably appoint one of those big coal industry lobbyists to lead the EPA. It doesn't look great for the planet with this crowd in charge...

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...s-planet-loses

Maybe we're doing a pretty lousy job writing the story of this planet built for humans, but luckily, Earth is way more than just our world. What we do to it is gonna come back to haunt us, while the planet stays exactly what it is. Just not for us.

Matthew Anderson4 absolutely crushed it 🙏🙏

Two billion bucks, man, that’s just absolutely wild. I mean, Zuckerberg’s out here basically claiming that every single year feels like an election year now, which honestly doesn't sound even remotely surprising if you look at how crazy things have gotten lately.

James Anderson5 said:I was honestly floored by the sheer amount of money poured into these campaigns—$1.3 billion for Clinton and nearly $800 million for Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...paign-finance/

That’s over $12 billion, which means there's going to be a mountain of debt that someone eventually has to pay back. On top of that, Trump will probably appoint one of those big coal industry lobbyists to lead the EPA. It doesn't look great for the planet with this crowd in charge...

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...s-planet-loses

Given how long these campaigns last and all the advertising they run across the whole country for 330 million people, I actually thought the spending would be even higher, maybe.