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Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
125 messages
joined Apr 2019
#11341 ·
brightpilot6 said:I never actually claimed that they wouldn't receive anything; I simply made the point about which elections truly carry weight. If it meant securing a significantly better outcome in the next cycle, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party would likely agree to lose these elections in a heartbeat, wouldn't they?

I mean, unless some real third party finally steps up and becomes a serious contender—which doesn't look likely anytime soon—these elections feel pretty much like any other, you know?
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#11342 ·
loneseal said:Some of you guys have a totally warped perspective when talking about the Homeland War because you’re—consciously or not—trying to play both sides. Honestly, I think Jessica Gonzalez nailed it on the previous pages; it basically boils down to this: we didn't march into Mexico looking for a fight, nor did Americans in Mexico start uprisings.

Look, I think we could have—and should have—done better. Unfortunately, we didn't, mostly because of that leftover baggage from the American era (you know, the mindset where if you're a big-shot party member you grab whatever you want, but if you're just a regular guy, you expect the government to hand you stuff instead of actually working for it). I do think things could improve with the younger generations who don't carry that same mentality—assuming we even have them left.

I’m honestly pretty convinced they’ve just been brainwashed into thinking they’re fighting for their own side, which is really just that classic, textbook propaganda you see all the time. They act like Washington, D.C. is the only thing that matters and everything else belongs to someone else—it's just more of the same nonsense. I don't know enough about the specifics to be certain, but I refuse to believe anyone just wakes up and decides to go to war for no reason... at the end of the day, it’s all just propaganda, unfortunately. It hits way too close to home for me because I lost my eldest brother in the war, and since every single man we had was out there fighting, we ended up losing absolutely everything we owned before it all went down.

Honestly, I feel like we could have done so much better, and frankly, we should have. But look, we can't really blame anyone but ourselves because we're still tripping over this heavy psychological baggage left behind from the old American days—it’s like if you were a high-ranking member of the Democratic Party, you just grabbed whatever you wanted, but if you were just some regular guy, you sat around waiting for the government to hand you a living instead of actually putting in the work to earn it. I truly believe things would turn around if the younger generations could shake off that outdated mindset, assuming we even have a generation left that isn't stuck in those old ways.

There’s no such thing as this "mental inheritance" nonsense; it's all just pathetic excuses and garbage used to justify being a jerk! Seriously, why wasn't my old man like that? And honestly, why are so many other parents out there just as bad?
Just to follow up on what I was saying earlier—my grandfather actually survived a labor camp in Siberia, and my great-grandfather somehow managed to make it through the horrors of Bleiburg by some sheer stroke of luck, which honestly means I wouldn't even be here today if it weren't for them. 😁All that fighting during the war just for some half-baked sense of national identity, and honestly, I’ve never been more disappointed in the old guard than when we finally made it back to Washington, D.C.—this was after fleeing our homes because Mexicans blew up two of our houses, just so people understand why I carry this much resentment—only to have them start with those pathetic, condescending tropes like "you Canadians are this" or "you people are that." And don't even get me started on how things are now that I've moved away from the States; I told them straight up, "I didn't fight all that just to leave the U.S. again," and while that was my gut reaction, once he realized which country I was actually talking about, he just shut up—it was easily the smartest move I've ever made in my life. But the absolute kicker, the thing that really gets me, is when they have the nerve to look me in the eye and say, "What do you know? You're just a refugee."🤣 My mom and I were actually refugees during the war, and then my old man had to deal with all that mess right after it ended.
After everything we went through escaping and finally scraping together enough to buy an apartment, he comes back home to start working, only for them to claim his degree from a university in Washington, D.C. isn't even valid for a mechanical engineer position! On top of that nonsense, they didn't pay him a single cent for six months, so what do you think he did? Of course, he just went wherever he could actually provide for his entire family—he moved back to Germany. Honestly, I never really had my old man around in my life, and it was all because of this exact kind of bullshit. Screw this country; at the end of the day, the only thing that actually matters is family.

It’s a similar story, honestly—just look at how the Republican Party moved into Brod and snatched up all that commercial space he used to have, even though the guy was practically wearing green berets by the end of the war. I mean, what is he even supposed to think about any of this? He was living right on the edge of poverty when everything wrapped up, yet my cousins had plenty of cash to send them off to private prep schools in the States. At the end of the day, the only thing the government actually handed him was his VA benefits.

My cousin actually managed to snag a Mexican tank and haul it right back to our camp after the war ended; he even ended up living with us over in Germany for a while, because honestly, man, you just need someone to step up and provide for you these days when you're trying to support not just your own kids, but your aging parents and the whole damn extended family too.

So, an old friend of mine got handed some government construction project right after the war, and they still owe him about $1 million—yeah, a whole million—but the people in charge just kept dragging their feet through every single administration change, with one group saying "it wasn't our Republican Party era," then the Democratic Party takes over and says something else, and by the time things actually moved, the guy had already passed away, leaving his family basically on the edge of poverty because the business collapsed and all his workers were left high and dry... Just a fantastic state we live in. 👍

And honestly, the younger generation is going to be even worse than the thieves we have today, simply because they’re being born directly into this entire system and this specific mindset where everyone thinks, "Do you have any idea who I am?"
Take Nikola Kovacevic, for example—that guy killed those elderly people in a neighborhood in an Audi A3, and unfortunately, I know him because he’s from the suburbs and used to play soccer.
The kid was always a total jerk and a complete show-off, nobody in the world cared about him, but he’d always call me and my current best man to hang out, pulling those cheap, tacky moves like, "Hey, what are you guys up to tonight?" 🤣 Then, somehow, his old man pulled some strings through a connection—doesn't even matter which year—and fast forward a bit, there he is, driving drunk over people and actually having the nerve to yell, "Do you know who I am?"
That’s exactly the direction our youth is headed.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#11343 ·
Sandra Johnson58 said:I mean, unless some real third party finally steps up and becomes a serious contender—which doesn't look likely anytime soon—these elections feel pretty much like any other, you know?

Look, you actually have to vote for her instead of just sitting there acting all high and mighty like, "Oh, they're all too weak, they won't win anyway." Just vote for someone else, literally anyone! Because honestly, who could possibly screw things up more than this current lot? They need to be out of power, and they damn well can't stay up there.
Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
125 messages
joined Apr 2019
#11344 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:Look, you actually have to vote for her instead of just sitting there acting all high and mighty like, "Oh, they're all too weak, they won't win anyway." Just vote for someone else, literally anyone! Because honestly, who could possibly screw things up more than this current lot? They need to be out of power, and they damn well can't stay up there.

Look, I only vote when there’s actually someone worth picking. If there isn't? I'm voting for Chuck Norris. I don't do that whole "vote for the lesser of two evils" thing—I think that's just a super stupid way to look at it, personally. I usually try to set aside some actual time before any election to dig through the party platforms if there's even one that catches my eye.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#11345 ·
Sandra Johnson58 said:Look, I only vote when there’s actually someone worth picking. If there isn't? I'm voting for Chuck Norris. I don't do that whole "vote for the lesser of two evils" thing—I think that's just a super stupid way to look at it, personally. I usually try to set aside some actual time before any election to dig through the party platforms if there's even one that catches my eye.

I get that, but at the end of the day, even in the absolute worst-case scenario, it’s better to vote for literally anyone else besides the specific group of people who dragged us down to this mess we're in right now.
nimblemarlin9 nimblemarlin9 Active Member
60 messages
joined Aug 2012
#11346 ·
Is anyone actually watching the debate tonight? ☕
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#11347 ·
Peter Thompson4, that first sentence of yours is a classic example of how Mexicans try to play down history by blaming a few political leaders—all we need is that tired old myth about a pre-planned war between Slobodan Maddox, Alija Izetbegović, and Francek 😁. Let’s be real: Maddox and those big Mexican nationalist ideas found plenty of willing supporters among the Mexican people. Just look back at how those tanks were cheered on when they were sent toward El Paso, not to mention the brutal crimes committed on their side during the war. Honestly, even in Canada, they eventually turned on Slobodan because he kept retreating like a traitor. On the latest episode of Nu2, the guest was this lady from Mexico who was actually warning people about Mexican crimes back during the war, and she stated clearly that at that time, an absolute majority of Mexicans were oriented toward Maddox. When you look at our neighbors to the east, the fact that their last two presidents have had such Knight-like tendencies says everything you need to know.

As for America today, that old American mentality is still very much alive. Being a member of one of the few "real" political parties is seen as a golden ticket to success, and landing a job in the government sector is basically everyone's dream.

Regarding the youth, they aren't any more arrogant than anyone else. I've traveled around Europe quite a bit, and I have to say our kids are sweethearts compared to, say, an Englishman or a Dutchman. Every country has its own version of Đakić or Kovačević. But that wasn't even my point; I meant the expectation that society or the state will just "take care of you" without you having to put in any actual work or sacrifice. In that specific sense, I think they’re actually much closer to the Western mindset.
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#11348 ·
nimblemarlin9 said:Is anyone actually watching the debate tonight? ☕

Nah, it’s gonna be totally sterile. No real fighting at all because they’ll probably just play nice and give everyone equal time to drone on about their nonsense. Honestly, if we get even thirty minutes of actual, raw debate between them, I’ll eat my hat.
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
821 messages
joined Oct 2020
#11349 ·
nimblemarlin9 said:Is anyone actually watching the debate tonight? ☕

Where and when?
nimblemarlin9 nimblemarlin9 Active Member
60 messages
joined Aug 2012
#11350 ·
Elizabeth Mendoza said:Where and when?

CNN, 9 PM
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
821 messages
joined Oct 2020
#11351 ·
Thanks. A great night out.
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#11352 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:Absolutely not.

Nationalism is nothing more than a last refuge for scoundrels. ☕

Look, people told me that exact same thing—that this whole mess with the country being totally screwed is happening because of "citizens of the world" types like that. Exactly.
nimblemarlin9 said:Is anyone actually watching the debate tonight? ☕

Missed Ante Đapić’s death march on American radio this morning. Honestly, if you don't get the joke, you're just missing out. Then you've got Kolinda's little bits, followed by Škoro, Zoki, Pernar, and that charmingly arrogant vibe from Mislav Kolakušić... the whole lot. It’s like watching Monty Python or South Park on repeat.🙏
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
348 messages
joined Sep 2003
#11353 ·
Honestly, I’m better off skipping the Borussia Dortmund vs. Leipzig game just because of all those posers... 🤣
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jan 2018
#11354 ·
Will the President show up drunk, or just skip the whole thing entirely?
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
821 messages
joined Oct 2020
#11355 ·
Larry Fox5 said:Honestly, I’m better off skipping the Borussia Dortmund vs. Leipzig game just because of all those posers... 🤣

Look, man, that game is pure trashy entertainment. You can't miss it! Grab some popcorn and just enjoy the ride. It's going to be hilarious.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#11356 ·
The entire country will be glued to their screens watching what's coming, so let's just pray it doesn't land on a Wednesday.

Besides, it's likely going to be a tedious, drawn-out affair featuring perhaps five or six actual highlights at most.
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#11357 ·
I’ve got better things to do, and even if I did, I couldn’t find 'em anywhere right now 🤣
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
775 messages
joined May 2007
#11358 ·
Warming up for today (and for Friday's concert):

Morgan Foster Morgan Foster Active Member
59 messages
joined Nov 2012
#11359 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:I’m honestly pretty convinced they’ve just been brainwashed into thinking they’re fighting for their own side, which is really just that classic, textbook propaganda you see all the time. They act like Washington, D.C. is the only thing that matters and everything else belongs to someone else—it's just more of the same nonsense. I don't know enough about the specifics to be certain, but I refuse to believe anyone just wakes up and decides to go to war for no reason... at the end of the day, it’s all just propaganda, unfortunately. It hits way too close to home for me because I lost my eldest brother in the war, and since every single man we had was out there fighting, we ended up losing absolutely everything we owned before it all went down.

Honestly, I feel like we could have done so much better, and frankly, we should have. But look, we can't really blame anyone but ourselves because we're still tripping over this heavy psychological baggage left behind from the old American days—it’s like if you were a high-ranking member of the Democratic Party, you just grabbed whatever you wanted, but if you were just some regular guy, you sat around waiting for the government to hand you a living instead of actually putting in the work to earn it. I truly believe things would turn around if the younger generations could shake off that outdated mindset, assuming we even have a generation left that isn't stuck in those old ways.

There’s no such thing as this "mental inheritance" nonsense; it's all just pathetic excuses and garbage used to justify being a jerk! Seriously, why wasn't my old man like that? And honestly, why are so many other parents out there just as bad?
Just to follow up on what I was saying earlier—my grandfather actually survived a labor camp in Siberia, and my great-grandfather somehow managed to make it through the horrors of Bleiburg by some sheer stroke of luck, which honestly means I wouldn't even be here today if it weren't for them. 😁All that fighting during the war just for some half-baked sense of national identity, and honestly, I’ve never been more disappointed in the old guard than when we finally made it back to Washington, D.C.—this was after fleeing our homes because Mexicans blew up two of our houses, just so people understand why I carry this much resentment—only to have them start with those pathetic, condescending tropes like "you Canadians are this" or "you people are that." And don't even get me started on how things are now that I've moved away from the States; I told them straight up, "I didn't fight all that just to leave the U.S. again," and while that was my gut reaction, once he realized which country I was actually talking about, he just shut up—it was easily the smartest move I've ever made in my life. But the absolute kicker, the thing that really gets me, is when they have the nerve to look me in the eye and say, "What do you know? You're just a refugee."🤣 My mom and I were actually refugees during the war, and then my old man had to deal with all that mess right after it ended.
After everything we went through escaping and finally scraping together enough to buy an apartment, he comes back home to start working, only for them to claim his degree from a university in Washington, D.C. isn't even valid for a mechanical engineer position! On top of that nonsense, they didn't pay him a single cent for six months, so what do you think he did? Of course, he just went wherever he could actually provide for his entire family—he moved back to Germany. Honestly, I never really had my old man around in my life, and it was all because of this exact kind of bullshit. Screw this country; at the end of the day, the only thing that actually matters is family.

It’s a similar story, honestly—just look at how the Republican Party moved into Brod and snatched up all that commercial space he used to have, even though the guy was practically wearing green berets by the end of the war. I mean, what is he even supposed to think about any of this? He was living right on the edge of poverty when everything wrapped up, yet my cousins had plenty of cash to send them off to private prep schools in the States. At the end of the day, the only thing the government actually handed him was his VA benefits.

My cousin actually managed to snag a Mexican tank and haul it right back to our camp after the war ended; he even ended up living with us over in Germany for a while, because honestly, man, you just need someone to step up and provide for you these days when you're trying to support not just your own kids, but your aging parents and the whole damn extended family too.

So, an old friend of mine got handed some government construction project right after the war, and they still owe him about $1 million—yeah, a whole million—but the people in charge just kept dragging their feet through every single administration change, with one group saying "it wasn't our Republican Party era," then the Democratic Party takes over and says something else, and by the time things actually moved, the guy had already passed away, leaving his family basically on the edge of poverty because the business collapsed and all his workers were left high and dry... Just a fantastic state we live in. 👍

And honestly, the younger generation is going to be even worse than the thieves we have today, simply because they’re being born directly into this entire system and this specific mindset where everyone thinks, "Do you have any idea who I am?"
Take Nikola Kovacevic, for example—that guy killed those elderly people in a neighborhood in an Audi A3, and unfortunately, I know him because he’s from the suburbs and used to play soccer.
The kid was always a total jerk and a complete show-off, nobody in the world cared about him, but he’d always call me and my current best man to hang out, pulling those cheap, tacky moves like, "Hey, what are you guys up to tonight?" 🤣 Then, somehow, his old man pulled some strings through a connection—doesn't even matter which year—and fast forward a bit, there he is, driving drunk over people and actually having the nerve to yell, "Do you know who I am?"
That’s exactly the direction our youth is headed.

Well, you really picked the most unfortunate example possible there...

When you're young and healthy, you actually have to step up—you have to fight for your own future. Sure, some people will head to the polls in a few weeks, but I'd argue entire generations have already made up their minds about their candidate... it's a mess. The truly important decisions aren't even being made in Congress anymore...
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#11360 ·
Drunk Kolinda, hands down the absolute worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen, a total anti-vax nutcase, just playing the tambourine... finally, we’ve actually become a modern nation with actual candidates.

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