Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Joseph Clark37 said:I agree with you, restlesssurfer97. In this specific instance, I don't feel much empathy for the reporter's injuries because she achieved her goal—a scandal and a headline.

On the other hand, looking back at how these things go, the police should have prevented the gathering, and the priest's church should have been retired and replaced by someone sensible. That will happen eventually, but likely too late...

They have no business touching her or slamming doors to crush her fingers. It’s just pure circus behavior. Neither of them had any reason to be swinging stuff at a reporter's camera or phone.

Laura Chavez93 said:well, 🤔 if you walk into a church during a service and start waving your phone around—especially without announcing yourself or asking for permission—you're asking for trouble... honestly, after seeing this, I feel like anyone who notices someone filming them should just grab the phone and smash it on the floor; there really isn't any other way...
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In Russia, people looking for trouble tend to be dealt with via summary judgment: Pussy Riot:

look, you said exactly what I did—she didn't say anything to anyone or insult anyone; she just stayed quiet and filmed with her phone. I don't see any provocation here.🤷

they were provoked because they know they're doing something they aren't supposed to—they're just terrified of getting caught.

I assume they'd use the same logic to defend a thief caught on camera.

wiredrider9 said:Look, you're only seeing what actually made it onto camera 😉

no, I'll see what wasn't.🤣

https://miamiherald.com/news/lifestyle/artist/63042

Just wondering how much coverage this actually gets in the news—like, will it even make the front page? Because honestly, this whole thing is a way bigger deal than what they're showing us.

urbanhawk17 said:I'm afraid you missed the point restlesssurfer97. She got a story.

she got what she was looking for, sure—she was fishing for a fight.

Can we all just get on the same page?

Elizabeth Mendoza said:Honestly, considering we're talking about BuzzFeed, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
🤣

Maybe do some actual research 🤣

She isn't a BuzzFeed reporter.

brightpilot6 said:Of course she was looking for a story; that’s literally what a journalist does. And honestly, she found one just by the sheer fact that the mice were being kept there in the first place.

Yet, according to your logic, she was also looking for aggression. It’s actually quite surprising to see such a stance—it feels dangerous when people make these kinds of sweeping judgments from a distance without really thinking it through. Isn't it essentially providing a moral excuse for anyone who happens to dislike a certain reporter to just label them as nitpicky or something similar?

I suppose we should apply that same logic to all the journalists who faced heat from folks like Bandic or Mamic, shouldn't we? At the end of the day, they simply got exactly what they went looking for.

You're trying to twist things, but I get the feeling you're doing it on purpose, so I'm not even going to bother arguing about it. 🤣

Paul Martinez73 said:You guys sure have plenty of arguments today 🤣

They're filming your every move, so why wouldn't they film on private property too? And then on the flip side, it's all "I don't want the President following meeeee, ahhh Boone won't let me live!" 🤣

Just pick a side and decide what you actually stand for—is it okay to film everything everywhere, or isn't it? Is it okay to follow people everywhere, or isn't it? Are you for freedom of movement and gathering, or aren't you?

You're struggling so hard 🤣 but honestly, what else can you expect from a bunch of Democrats ☕

I mean, what's there to argue if you just don't get that being filmed in public is totally legal 🤣

If you reacted the way you said you would, you'd just end up being exactly what I called you—a total insecure aggressor... ☕

brightpilot6 said:

she got what she was looking for, sure—she was fishing for a fight.

Can we all just get on the same page?

Man, talk about being inconsistent, I’m honestly kind of shocked and low-key offended by how we're just cutting corners whenever it suits us.

urbanhawk17 said:Maybe do some actual research 🤣

She isn't a BuzzFeed reporter.

Then who is? I only see this story on their site.

Elizabeth Mendoza said:Then who is? I only see this story on their site.

Miami Herald and CNN

nimblemarlin9 said:I mean, what's there to argue if you just don't get that being filmed in public is totally legal 🤣

If you reacted the way you said you would, you'd just end up being exactly what I called you—a total insecure aggressor... ☕

Go ahead, explain to me how a church counts as a public space, or how your private car is somehow public property. I already linked the article explaining that if you film a car accident from inside your own vehicle, someone can still sue you.

Waiting to see this mental gymnastics routine unfold... ☕

I mean, just admit you're wrong. Elizabeth Mendoza couldn't handle it, she didn't have the strength left. And even the Socialist Party failed to defend the Church as a public space rather than their own private playground.

urbanhawk17 said:They have no business touching her or slamming doors to crush her fingers. It’s just pure circus behavior. Neither of them had any reason to be swinging stuff at a reporter's camera or phone.

Well, honestly, it wasn't exactly a shocker, was it? Given how much tension there's been between the press and this group for a while now. And from what I can see, the locals are incredibly tight-knit with their parish.

brightpilot6 said:Of course she was looking for a story; that’s literally what a journalist does. And honestly, she found one just by the sheer fact that the mice were being kept there in the first place.

Yet, according to your logic, she was also looking for aggression. It’s actually quite surprising to see such a stance—it feels dangerous when people make these kinds of sweeping judgments from a distance without really thinking it through. Isn't it essentially providing a moral excuse for anyone who happens to dislike a certain reporter to just label them as nitpicky or something similar?

I suppose we should apply that same logic to all the journalists who faced heat from folks like Bandic or Mamic, shouldn't we? At the end of the day, they simply got exactly what they went looking for.

Come on, quit the bullshit.🤣

urbanhawk17 said:Miami Herald and CNN

CNN? Honestly, I didn't see that coming from them. I always figured they were a legit news network and a reliable source.

🤦

neonfalcon16 said:Well, honestly, it wasn't exactly a shocker, was it? Given how much tension there's been between the press and this group for a while now. And from what I can see, the locals are incredibly tight-knit with their parish.

Whether you expected it or not, they don't have any say in what happens to her.

restlesssurfer97 said:You're trying to twist things, but I get the feeling you're doing it on purpose, so I'm not even going to bother arguing about it. 🤣

You claimed she was looking for a "fight," and that she got exactly what she wanted. That's a bold take, unless you happen to know her personally.

I wonder if you would be typing the exact same thing if, say, the police had opened fire on her while she was filming them? That would certainly make for a more compelling headline, wouldn't it?

Paul Martinez73 said:Go ahead, explain to me how a church counts as a public space, or how your private car is somehow public property. I already linked the article explaining that if you film a car accident from inside your own vehicle, someone can still sue you.

Waiting to see this mental gymnastics routine unfold... ☕

I mean, just admit you're wrong. Elizabeth Mendoza couldn't handle it, she didn't have the strength left. And even the Socialist Party failed to defend the Church as a public space rather than their own private playground.

Is a church a private corporation now? Does it own its own private plot of land?🕺

brightpilot6 said:You claimed she was looking for a "fight," and that she got exactly what she wanted. That's a bold take, unless you happen to know her personally.

I wonder if you would be typing the exact same thing if, say, the police had opened fire on her while she was filming them? That would certainly make for a more compelling headline, wouldn't it?

urbanhawk17 said:Whether you expected it or not, they don't have any say in what happens to her.

It seems like nobody here has quite grasped the concepts of private property and filming permits yet.
If the cops gunned you down after you broke into a precinct to film them, you'd probably be telling everyone you got exactly what you deserved
🤷

brightpilot6 said:Of course she was looking for a story; that’s literally what a journalist does. And honestly, she found one just by the sheer fact that the mice were being kept there in the first place.

Yet, according to your logic, she was also looking for aggression. It’s actually quite surprising to see such a stance—it feels dangerous when people make these kinds of sweeping judgments from a distance without really thinking it through. Isn't it essentially providing a moral excuse for anyone who happens to dislike a certain reporter to just label them as nitpicky or something similar?

I suppose we should apply that same logic to all the journalists who faced heat from folks like Bandic or Mamic, shouldn't we? At the end of the day, they simply got exactly what they went looking for.

And what did the media actually do regarding Mamic? Nothing. They played dumb, laughed at the press conferences, and basically worshipped the manager of the North America. Did you forget all that? It’s not even a scandal to them anymore when the younger brother moves back in, or when the board acts like it's totally fine that the club has been looted for hundreds of millions of dollars. Journalism in America has hit rock bottom—shameful levels, really. An independent reporter who actually wants to cover crime or corruption will barely find work anywhere, maybe some tiny, pathetic blog, but mostly they just chase crumbs to pay their bills. Meanwhile, nobody wants to touch the big stuff, like who actually destroyed our immune systems? Nobody’s gonna ask the local politicians about the lack of equipment in hospitals, or who's to blame because that nursing home didn't even have gloves or masks and half the place caught COVID? When things get real, suddenly journalism doesn't exist.

Elizabeth Mendoza said:Is a church a private corporation now? Does it own its own private plot of land?🕺

Who am I even arguing with here... 🤦