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vividtiger922 vividtiger922 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Apr 2009
#1 ·
I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#2 ·
Kudos on starting this thread👍

Seriously though, what's with the admins handing out partial bans? It’s just a quick way to kill any decent conversation right in its tracks.
Timothy Davis59 Timothy Davis59 Member
18 messages
joined May 2013
#3 ·
I found the whole situation pretty sketchy too. The way the admins handled everything felt off—it honestly seems like there’s some personal vendettas at play, which is probably why access to the community was pulled for 🤷

The way they handled the Lord Byron situation was also a massive fail on their part 🤣

As for Schmokljan, getting suspended was well-deserved. He showed zero class and had no respect for the staff or the rest of us. They were actually being way too soft on him. In this instance, the facts are all right there in black and white. But those first two cases? That was all just backroom politics 🤷
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#4 ·
Timothy Davis59 said:I found the whole situation pretty sketchy too. The way the admins handled everything felt off—it honestly seems like there’s some personal vendettas at play, which is probably why access to the community was pulled for 🤷

The way they handled the Lord Byron situation was also a massive fail on their part 🤣

As for Schmokljan, getting suspended was well-deserved. He showed zero class and had no respect for the staff or the rest of us. They were actually being way too soft on him. In this instance, the facts are all right there in black and white. But those first two cases? That was all just backroom politics 🤷

Schmokljan is the victim here; he didn't deserve the ban. He just has his own way of doing things, which makes him a typical user with all his quirks, much like how the admins have theirs, but he’s the one getting punished while the administration keeps pretending to "enforce order".
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#5 ·
vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

From what I can gather from the threads, it’s not even a six-month ban (which would be bad, but manageable), it’s a permanent one. So saying it’s "exactly" six months isn't right—it's way worse than that. I don't recall Nica ever saying anything like "check back in three months"; everywhere she posts, it just says "account banned."
Jonathan Hayes35 Jonathan Hayes35 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2012
#6 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:From what I can gather from the threads, it’s not even a six-month ban (which would be bad, but manageable), it’s a permanent one. So saying it’s "exactly" six months isn't right—it's way worse than that. I don't recall Nica ever saying anything like "check back in three months"; everywhere she posts, it just says "account banned."

Six months.
Jacob Allen Jacob Allen Member
22 messages
joined May 2003
#7 ·
Honestly, I’d love to just sit down and have a real conversation, maybe even work out some terms if we can, but you know what? There’s absolutely no rush at all! I’m not about to go charging in there with a massive list of demands or getting all nitpicky and arguing over every single little syllable like some kind of lawyer, and I definitely don't want to get stuck in some endless loop of "yes, but actually no" arguments. I’d much rather just chat things through, let the dust settle, and then maybe grab a coffee in a few days or even next week to see what the vibe is. We could just sit back, see what the big news is today, and then if someone comes back ten days later saying, "Wait, that's not even a big deal," well, that's fine too! I'm totally down to just let time do its thing, take a beat to really process everything, and look at the whole situation from a much more chill perspective. At the end of the day, life is way too short to spend it being stressed out and worked up over nothing!

So, like, seriously, hum it for me if you can, because honestly, I’m just sitting here thinking that if there is any way at all to make it happen, I really want Schmokljan—wait, who else was it, let me think, oh yeah, Slafko—and whoever else I'm forgetting right now to just get unbanned!

Look, I'm not saying you guys need to go ahead and unban them right this second, and honestly, I have no clue who actually holds the keys to the kingdom here—whether it's a specific person or just some official moderator role—but my point is simply that they should be unbanned!
I mean, honestly, it’s just like... I don't even know how to put it, but things just happen, you know? Someone does one little thing, they click a button or whatever, and boom—suddenly they're banned! It's just wild how fast it all goes down!
I mean, honestly, what's the big deal? I really don't think they're doing you any harm!

Honestly, since we’re already talking about all this damage and negativity, I really can't help but feel like—if you just step back and look at this whole forum as a whole—there’s actually way more value being created here than any kind of harm!
And one more thing... honestly, I think that little comment was a bit much, you know? It just felt a little off, like, not the best way to handle things. Look, we aren't going to ban you right this second, but let's be real—you're already on a probationary period, so don't go playing games with us! Just watch what you say, because seriously, one wrong move and we're gonna have to let you go for good.

Man, it’s just... you really can't write like that when you're feeling the pressure, you know? It’s like even if you actually want to get your thoughts out, there’s this weird force pushing you to say exactly what people expect or how you think you *should* sound, rather than just being yourself!

Look, you just gotta learn when to chill out a little bit, right? Like, sometimes you really need to swallow your pride and just let things go, because honestly, who even cares about being right all the time? I totally get that you need to have some consistency and follow the rules, especially since this forum is massive and everyone is trying their best to organize everything and keep things running smoothly according to the guidelines, but seriously... back in my hometown, we have this saying that pretty much sums it up: screw a guy who thinks his word is absolute law! 😬

So basically, what they're trying to say is that everything is constantly shifting—it’s like that whole "everything flows" philosophy, you know? But honestly, there are way more people changing than there are rivers! Even the moderators themselves are constantly evolving, and the regular users on this site are always morphing into someone else too, but seriously... what's the point? Why does it even happen? And where exactly are we all heading?
Look, I don't think these guys are clueless about what they're doing or how it's actually hitting them, you know? They totally get it! It’s really just about how you approach the conversation, like, just be real with them. Seriously, come on, quit messing around—just say whatever is on your mind, but please, for the love of god, don't start whining over every single little thing!
Look, we’ve got some seriously seasoned veterans on this forum who actually have something worth saying, even if their delivery is a little rough around the edges sometimes! It’s definitely not something you see every day, you know? Honestly, I really feel like it’s such a shame to rob this community of that kind of experience, because they bring so much to the table!

Oh, I totally get it, I really do! It all comes down to cycles, man—like these weird little phases where everyone just starts acting up for no reason. One minute they’re being extra, then the next we’re all getting worked up, and before you know it, it’s just total chaos all around. All that noise starts clashing together, and suddenly someone takes something completely out of context or twists what was actually meant. And honestly, that's just how online forums work, right? You can't exactly take back a word once it's out there or try to un-say something you just blurted out. Once it's posted, it's done! Then you've got people jumping down your throat saying, "Hey, wait a second, didn't you say this?" or "Well, come on, tell me what you actually meant!" It's like, give me a break, just let me move past it! You can't just hit undo on a conversation once things start spiraling.

I mean, look, you’ve gotta give them some credit for having actual wit and being genuinely sharp, right? Sure, every now and then someone might miss the mark or misinterpret something, but that goes both ways—it happens to everyone! Honestly, these three aren't just some mindless spammers cluttering up the feed and killing the vibe of the discussion, they actually bring something to the table. They aren't dim-witted at all, so come on, just admit it!
Alright, maybe I’m just trolling a little bit here—if you ask my dictionary, that’s basically what it means—but seriously, this whole curriculum is totally their vibe, and honestly, it’s pretty hard to resist when you see someone get absolutely wrecked like that! I mean, what can you even say? Life just throws these wild curveballs at you sometimes, and suddenly you're just standing there wondering what happened, right? It happens, man! Today it’s them, tomorrow it’ll be someone else, because that’s just how the glory of this world works!

Look, since I brought up the whole negotiation thing, go ahead and ban me if you really have to—I mean, honestly, if someone’s gotta catch a ban, let it be me! I’m not gonna go making fake accounts or throwing a temper tantrum about it, so don't even worry about that. I had a life way before I ever logged onto this site, and I'll definitely be just fine without this forum, too!
Man, they care about that stuff way more because they’re younger, you know? It’s like those computers are their actual kids, and if you messed with that electricity or whatever, they’d be screaming, talking back, whining, complaining, freaking out, and just straight-up acting up! They’d be communicating and everything—they've definitely got plenty to say and a whole lot of opinions to drop on you about all sorts of things!

So what, you just gotta give them a little bit of grief and maybe tell them a few times, like, "Hey man, quit whining, chill out, and just show up tomorrow," you know?
I mean, honestly, it’s such a waste to just ban them all at once like there are five billion people like that floating around on this forum,

Seriously, I’m telling you... I’m not even one-third of the way to being like any of those guys, and I know this whole thing feels kind of... I don't know, illogical, maybe even a little ridiculous, but look, if it helps... I'll trade Jacob Allen for the three of them, and then we can just wait and see how things play out... it’ll be something, and hey, it'll definitely be better than what we have going on right now.

And hey, whoever wants to weigh in doesn't need to rush to give an answer immediately... let a few days pass, let everyone chill out a bit, because I can tell there are some pretty high-maintenance types on here, so just take it easy, take some time to think, grab a coffee, relax, maybe realize you don't want to deal with it right now, grab another coffee... and just go from there.

So yeah... 🍿
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#8 ·
Jonathan Hayes35 said:Six months.

That was actually two months ago, and Strile was the one who wrote that. In my own post, I made it pretty clear that Nica never even mentioned how long a ban lasts or if they’d be coming back down the line. Honestly, if she had answered the way Strile did, I doubt we'd be seeing half these open threads about it.
vividtiger922 vividtiger922 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Apr 2009
#9 ·
Timothy Davis59 said:I found the whole situation pretty sketchy too. The way the admins handled everything felt off—it honestly seems like there’s some personal vendettas at play, which is probably why access to the community was pulled for 🤷

The way they handled the Lord Byron situation was also a massive fail on their part 🤣

As for Schmokljan, getting suspended was well-deserved. He showed zero class and had no respect for the staff or the rest of us. They were actually being way too soft on him. In this instance, the facts are all right there in black and white. But those first two cases? That was all just backroom politics 🤷

That’s precisely where the issue lies—when you attempt to lecture an adult on how to behave, or even worse, demand that they show "respect to the administration." The right to be uncivilized or crude is a fundamental liberty held by every individual, including Schmokljan. Readers are here to form their own opinions about him, not to be told what to think. The moderation team isn't here to act as etiquette instructors or to hand out punishments like they're dealing with a toddler. From the very start, the communication with him was handled poorly, and even though he agreed to the terms, putting someone on a "probationary period" was just foolish. It wasn't standard practice, especially considering that people banned a year before him continued posting without any special deals or conditions.

And really, as Jacob Allen pointed out—if you treat someone like a child, you increase the chances they'll act out and say exactly the wrong thing...

Ultimately, I touched on this when we first discussed the situation—take ZgSash, for example, who gets grayed out constantly yet keeps coming back. No one imposes conditions on him, and no one puts him on trial. They shouldn't. He gets a warning, goes gray, serves his ban, and returns. Now, making a deal is always an option, but what was demanded of Schmokljan wasn't a negotiation; it was basic condescending discipline. It shows a total disregard for concepts like authorship, style, and the body of work that a written medium is supposed to value and respect. To put it bluntly, the man was told his writing was "garbage," and once the dialogue took that turn, there was simply no way to recover...
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
223 messages
joined Feb 2014
#10 ·
I’ve decided I’m done messing around with the current administration. Period. I’ve made it crystal clear before—I value every single second and every ounce of energy I pour into these arguments and debates, and I'm just not interested in wasting them anymore.

But, since there might still be some actual thinkers left in this place—if any exist at all:

Please, for the love of God, bring back Unknown, Schmokljan, Hroboatosa, _________________... (feel free to add names to the list)... Bring back the people who actually have a brain and can hold a conversation. Try actually communicating with them properly for once. If you aren't capable of doing that—my honest recommendation? Just step down and leave the job to someone else.
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jan 2012
#11 ·
I just want to give the admins a quick nudge—there have been two unanswered tickets sitting in the support queue for days now. Users are literally begging to get their accounts unbanned after posting thousands of messages on this site.

Look, those massive post counts mean people actually read what was being said. They engaged, they commented, and they’re the reason this place even has any decent content. And we all know how much quality content matters when you're trying to keep people coming back to a site.

Honestly, if you aren't planning on actually unbanning them, the least you could do is be fair and give them an answer to their requests.
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#12 ·
And it’s not even just about that; you really only have to look at how the admin team refuses to address a basic question from a user regarding how the Powerlock trolls handle their politics.

So, I’m just reposting what he wrote yesterday, since he's been sitting there waiting for a reply for over ten days now.

Reddit

There’s no point in asking if this is how they operate, because we already know it is; all we can really ask is:

When are you actually going to change things up so a regular user can get an answer to a simple question?

I shouldn't have to spell out that the admins exist to serve the users, not the other way around.
Jonathan Hayes35 Jonathan Hayes35 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2012
#13 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:That was actually two months ago, and Strile was the one who wrote that. In my own post, I made it pretty clear that Nica never even mentioned how long a ban lasts or if they’d be coming back down the line. Honestly, if she had answered the way Strile did, I doubt we'd be seeing half these open threads about it.

Yeah, and?
Have you ever actually seen, or even read, a single instance where Nica questioned his decision, let alone tried to change it (even if she actually had the power to)? And I'm not just talking about the situation with Unknown.
They always back each other up—even if that "support" just means staying silent when they disagree, or playing it safe by distancing themselves from whatever nonsense the other person spits out.

So, don't hold your breath.
Nothing is going to change—they’ll keep dodging the topic, they'll keep avoiding direct questions, and then—get this—once the dust finally settles, they’ll swoop back in looking all concerned and saddened that they weren't around, using that whole "so, where were we?" kind of vibe.

They’ll probably still answer questions that Unknown didn't even ask, and they'll move heaven and earth to shut down her threads as quickly as possible just to make sure the conversation doesn't head in a direction they don't like.
They'll keep her banned in the hopes that she'll just sleep on it, 😁maybe 180 times over, reconsider everything, and eventually forget she ever wanted to spill those compromising little details about the Cut-and-paste situation... Personally, after all the crap they've put her through (and others, too), I really, really hope her brain functions just as well once she's finally unbanned.

Bottom line: Strile, Nica... they're the exact same brand of trouble. ☕
Jamie Thompson3 Jamie Thompson3 Member
17 messages
joined Aug 2008
#14 ·
Defeat them.
driftingcrane83 driftingcrane83 Member
40 messages
joined Oct 2011
#15 ·
Sorry, everyone, but I think you're all taking this forum 😁
far too seriously.
Every administration eventually cracks down on some group they don't like; it’s happened before and it’ll happen again.

Complaining about it is really just a way to show support for those who got banned. It won't change how the system works. If someone actually gets unbanned, it'll be a one-off exception, not a shift toward fairer rules.

New era of cronyism 🤣

Honestly, I'm surprised the veterans here even bother getting involved in these debates.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#16 ·
Look, just to get things rolling, I don't have any intention of getting bogged down here in some massive, endless debate over everyone else's sanctions or the various decisions being made about them—especially when it comes to those folks who've been banned. I’d rather just keep it brief, if we can all just agree to wrap that part up quickly.

vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

Look, just because someone puts a complaint in a polite little package doesn't mean it’s going to be granted. If that were the case, everyone would just act however they wanted and then play the humble victim, asking nicely for their posts to be wiped clean. That’s just not how this forum works. Within a matter of minutes, the moderators identified several of her requests for permanent bans, and let me be clear: a permaban isn't some toy or a tool you use just to prove a point. The definition of that word is pretty damn unambiguous. Besides, Hunter isn't exactly the first person to have a request denied to return to the forum after being banned at their own request—just look at the history here. Here’s another one for you!I didn't even notice she had started opening a whole string of threads, and honestly, I didn't see anyone else on the forum making a huge stink about it either. Now that I've taken a closer look, I see her clone hasn't actually been banned yet, but since she hasn't really used that account to post anything else after the initial wave, it doesn't feel like much of an issue in the grand scheme of things.

vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

Look, Schmokljan has just been relentlessly attacking people. I’ve got nothing against someone having a big personality or being a bit eccentric—honestly, that’s what makes things interesting—but we really shouldn't be mixing apples and oranges here. He was given a formal warning, he explicitly agreed to the terms, and then he went right ahead and broke them over and over again. If she ends up getting banned, she only has herself to blame.

vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

But we certainly didn't see that play out the way we expected later on.

vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

Well, you knew perfectly well that was against the rules. You aren't supposed to leak info from the private sections of the forum intended for staff eyes only; you were fully aware of the consequences and chose to go ahead with it anyway. That was your call.

vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

Honestly, a six-month suspension for following the basic community guidelines shouldn't be an issue for anyone. We don't even necessarily need to jump straight to a permanent ban for a first offense—it doesn't even have to be the very first ban. Our goal is simply to ensure the person stops doing the exact thing that got them flagged in the first place, which usually has nothing to do with their personality.

vividtiger922 said:I would, perhaps, like to have a little conversation about... well, just about everything...

Let’s kick things off with the Whereabout case. For those who haven't been following along, here is the situation... Reddit

Reddit

Reddit

Since that user already laid out her entire situation in such exhaustive detail—complete with an endless mountain of links and quotes—I don’t see much point in me trying to recap it all for you; just read the thread yourself... If you want my take, though, the whole thing feels like a classic case of "Why ask why? You already know why." Basically, she was penalized for breaking a rule that doesn't even exist, and when she calmly and logically filed an appeal through the proper channels, she was met with threats of a partial ban if she dared to speak up again. But honestly, that isn't even the worst part. The moderator's explanation was nothing short of grotesque, claiming they simply decided it would be "better" if she remained banned. Which really makes me wonder—who is this actually benefiting? Is it for the site, the community, for her, or perhaps just to protect the administration...

I find myself asking, what exactly am I to this community? Because, quite frankly, I cannot fathom a single logical reason why a constructive contributor—someone who has spent their time here volunteering and offering genuine, thoughtful critiques and suggestions—would be banned for no other reason than six months... For whose benefit is this decision actually being made? And what, precisely, is meant by the claim that this platform serves an "educational" purpose...

It’s a similar trajectory to what happened with Schmokljan, a user who was permanently banned from the forum and whose contributions were dismissed as mere garbage... He was once a moderator and the architect of several fascinating threads—sometimes provocative, occasionally incomprehensible, but always ingenious and genuinely authentic. His permanent ban finally came when he requested a partial removal of some Psychology content, during which he posed a question to the administration in his signature style. It might have been unpleasant, perhaps even rude, but it certainly didn't warrant anything more than a standard warning for trolling or insults...

It’s much like the whole Lord Byron situation—that one particular user whose ban was extended by ten days over these wild accusations of cloning accounts and posting on Unknown... all that esoteric speculation that never actually held up under scrutiny, only to be revealed later as nothing more than a complete fabrication...

I actually ended up serving a two-and-a-half-month suspension for supposedly "inciting conflict and leaking moderator information," all because I dared to recount the actual events from a certain corner of the internet regarding how decisions are made on this forum, our current priorities, and the administration's overall strategy...

There could easily be several more instances of indefinite bans, threats of partial restrictions, and the actual enforcement of those very same threats, but I won't dwell on them...

I have a question for the administration: what exactly are your priorities here? It seems to me that you’re quick to ban long-standing community members for no apparent reason, often without any clear timeline, and if this isn't meant to be an educational measure, then what is the actual purpose... It’s baffling how offenses like hate speech, justifying violence, insults, or doxxing—things that truly poison the platform and its integrity—only result in a few days' suspension or a minor point deduction. Meanwhile, we see draconian punishments handed out for things that barely touch upon the quality of the content itself, where the common denominator is simply a disagreement with management. To be honest, the whole thing feels a bit like Huxley’s *Brave New World*... It appears as though you care far more about maintaining a rigid hierarchy and preserving order—ensuring everyone knows who is Alpha, who is Beta, and who is Delta—than you do about the actual substance of our discussions or the creators who provide them. I struggle to find any other explanation for why you would indefinitely sideline veteran users who, despite their flaws, are the ones actually building and sustaining the content of this site...

It just isn't true that we punish people simply for disagreeing. Maybe we penalize the *way* that disagreement is expressed, but never the disagreement itself. The FBI is full of people who disagree with the administration and haven't faced any sanctions at all, so saying this is a pattern of targeting dissenters is neither accurate nor fair.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#17 ·
Timothy Davis59 said:I found the whole situation pretty sketchy too. The way the admins handled everything felt off—it honestly seems like there’s some personal vendettas at play, which is probably why access to the community was pulled for 🤷

The way they handled the Lord Byron situation was also a massive fail on their part 🤣

As for Schmokljan, getting suspended was well-deserved. He showed zero class and had no respect for the staff or the rest of us. They were actually being way too soft on him. In this instance, the facts are all right there in black and white. But those first two cases? That was all just backroom politics 🤷

Look, even when you have all the facts staring you in the face and everything is documented, there will always be people who refuse to believe it and start whispering about some kind of conspiracy or backroom deals. But there are also times when we simply can't reveal every single detail we know. For most people, certain pieces of the puzzle are going to remain missing, but that doesn't mean we're making things up or playing favorites. Please understand that for the good of the forum, the administration sometimes has to keep certain things strictly confidential.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#18 ·
Jacob Allen said:Honestly, I’d love to just sit down and have a real conversation, maybe even work out some terms if we can, but you know what? There’s absolutely no rush at all! I’m not about to go charging in there with a massive list of demands or getting all nitpicky and arguing over every single little syllable like some kind of lawyer, and I definitely don't want to get stuck in some endless loop of "yes, but actually no" arguments. I’d much rather just chat things through, let the dust settle, and then maybe grab a coffee in a few days or even next week to see what the vibe is. We could just sit back, see what the big news is today, and then if someone comes back ten days later saying, "Wait, that's not even a big deal," well, that's fine too! I'm totally down to just let time do its thing, take a beat to really process everything, and look at the whole situation from a much more chill perspective. At the end of the day, life is way too short to spend it being stressed out and worked up over nothing!

So, like, seriously, hum it for me if you can, because honestly, I’m just sitting here thinking that if there is any way at all to make it happen, I really want Schmokljan—wait, who else was it, let me think, oh yeah, Slafko—and whoever else I'm forgetting right now to just get unbanned!

Look, I'm not saying you guys need to go ahead and unban them right this second, and honestly, I have no clue who actually holds the keys to the kingdom here—whether it's a specific person or just some official moderator role—but my point is simply that they should be unbanned!
I mean, honestly, it’s just like... I don't even know how to put it, but things just happen, you know? Someone does one little thing, they click a button or whatever, and boom—suddenly they're banned! It's just wild how fast it all goes down!
I mean, honestly, what's the big deal? I really don't think they're doing you any harm!

Honestly, since we’re already talking about all this damage and negativity, I really can't help but feel like—if you just step back and look at this whole forum as a whole—there’s actually way more value being created here than any kind of harm!
And one more thing... honestly, I think that little comment was a bit much, you know? It just felt a little off, like, not the best way to handle things. Look, we aren't going to ban you right this second, but let's be real—you're already on a probationary period, so don't go playing games with us! Just watch what you say, because seriously, one wrong move and we're gonna have to let you go for good.

Man, it’s just... you really can't write like that when you're feeling the pressure, you know? It’s like even if you actually want to get your thoughts out, there’s this weird force pushing you to say exactly what people expect or how you think you *should* sound, rather than just being yourself!

Look, you just gotta learn when to chill out a little bit, right? Like, sometimes you really need to swallow your pride and just let things go, because honestly, who even cares about being right all the time? I totally get that you need to have some consistency and follow the rules, especially since this forum is massive and everyone is trying their best to organize everything and keep things running smoothly according to the guidelines, but seriously... back in my hometown, we have this saying that pretty much sums it up: screw a guy who thinks his word is absolute law! 😬

So basically, what they're trying to say is that everything is constantly shifting—it’s like that whole "everything flows" philosophy, you know? But honestly, there are way more people changing than there are rivers! Even the moderators themselves are constantly evolving, and the regular users on this site are always morphing into someone else too, but seriously... what's the point? Why does it even happen? And where exactly are we all heading?
Look, I don't think these guys are clueless about what they're doing or how it's actually hitting them, you know? They totally get it! It’s really just about how you approach the conversation, like, just be real with them. Seriously, come on, quit messing around—just say whatever is on your mind, but please, for the love of god, don't start whining over every single little thing!
Look, we’ve got some seriously seasoned veterans on this forum who actually have something worth saying, even if their delivery is a little rough around the edges sometimes! It’s definitely not something you see every day, you know? Honestly, I really feel like it’s such a shame to rob this community of that kind of experience, because they bring so much to the table!

Oh, I totally get it, I really do! It all comes down to cycles, man—like these weird little phases where everyone just starts acting up for no reason. One minute they’re being extra, then the next we’re all getting worked up, and before you know it, it’s just total chaos all around. All that noise starts clashing together, and suddenly someone takes something completely out of context or twists what was actually meant. And honestly, that's just how online forums work, right? You can't exactly take back a word once it's out there or try to un-say something you just blurted out. Once it's posted, it's done! Then you've got people jumping down your throat saying, "Hey, wait a second, didn't you say this?" or "Well, come on, tell me what you actually meant!" It's like, give me a break, just let me move past it! You can't just hit undo on a conversation once things start spiraling.

I mean, look, you’ve gotta give them some credit for having actual wit and being genuinely sharp, right? Sure, every now and then someone might miss the mark or misinterpret something, but that goes both ways—it happens to everyone! Honestly, these three aren't just some mindless spammers cluttering up the feed and killing the vibe of the discussion, they actually bring something to the table. They aren't dim-witted at all, so come on, just admit it!
Alright, maybe I’m just trolling a little bit here—if you ask my dictionary, that’s basically what it means—but seriously, this whole curriculum is totally their vibe, and honestly, it’s pretty hard to resist when you see someone get absolutely wrecked like that! I mean, what can you even say? Life just throws these wild curveballs at you sometimes, and suddenly you're just standing there wondering what happened, right? It happens, man! Today it’s them, tomorrow it’ll be someone else, because that’s just how the glory of this world works!

Look, since I brought up the whole negotiation thing, go ahead and ban me if you really have to—I mean, honestly, if someone’s gotta catch a ban, let it be me! I’m not gonna go making fake accounts or throwing a temper tantrum about it, so don't even worry about that. I had a life way before I ever logged onto this site, and I'll definitely be just fine without this forum, too!
Man, they care about that stuff way more because they’re younger, you know? It’s like those computers are their actual kids, and if you messed with that electricity or whatever, they’d be screaming, talking back, whining, complaining, freaking out, and just straight-up acting up! They’d be communicating and everything—they've definitely got plenty to say and a whole lot of opinions to drop on you about all sorts of things!

So what, you just gotta give them a little bit of grief and maybe tell them a few times, like, "Hey man, quit whining, chill out, and just show up tomorrow," you know?
I mean, honestly, it’s such a waste to just ban them all at once like there are five billion people like that floating around on this forum,

Seriously, I’m telling you... I’m not even one-third of the way to being like any of those guys, and I know this whole thing feels kind of... I don't know, illogical, maybe even a little ridiculous, but look, if it helps... I'll trade Jacob Allen for the three of them, and then we can just wait and see how things play out... it’ll be something, and hey, it'll definitely be better than what we have going on right now.

And hey, whoever wants to weigh in doesn't need to rush to give an answer immediately... let a few days pass, let everyone chill out a bit, because I can tell there are some pretty high-maintenance types on here, so just take it easy, take some time to think, grab a coffee, relax, maybe realize you don't want to deal with it right now, grab another coffee... and just go from there.

So yeah... 🍿

Stanley isn't even banned. 🙂
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#19 ·
vividtiger922 said:That’s precisely where the issue lies—when you attempt to lecture an adult on how to behave, or even worse, demand that they show "respect to the administration." The right to be uncivilized or crude is a fundamental liberty held by every individual, including Schmokljan. Readers are here to form their own opinions about him, not to be told what to think. The moderation team isn't here to act as etiquette instructors or to hand out punishments like they're dealing with a toddler. From the very start, the communication with him was handled poorly, and even though he agreed to the terms, putting someone on a "probationary period" was just foolish. It wasn't standard practice, especially considering that people banned a year before him continued posting without any special deals or conditions.

And really, as Jacob Allen pointed out—if you treat someone like a child, you increase the chances they'll act out and say exactly the wrong thing...

Ultimately, I touched on this when we first discussed the situation—take ZgSash, for example, who gets grayed out constantly yet keeps coming back. No one imposes conditions on him, and no one puts him on trial. They shouldn't. He gets a warning, goes gray, serves his ban, and returns. Now, making a deal is always an option, but what was demanded of Schmokljan wasn't a negotiation; it was basic condescending discipline. It shows a total disregard for concepts like authorship, style, and the body of work that a written medium is supposed to value and respect. To put it bluntly, the man was told his writing was "garbage," and once the dialogue took that turn, there was simply no way to recover...

Wait, so what are you actually getting at here? Are you basically campaigning for us to scrap all the rules and just let the whole forum descend into total anarchy? 😁

By the way, let's be real—what was asked of Schmokljan was asked of plenty of others too, and honestly, most people behave perfectly fine once their suspension is lifted.
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
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#20 ·
I’m gonna use this thread to toss a question up to the admins:

It looks like Daniel Ward87 and Tyndall are basically on strike or just totally MIA right now, and since nobody gave us a heads-up, everyone on the forum is just sitting here waiting for answers they aren't getting.

Appreciate any insight you guys can give me.

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