Canadian language on the forum?

Is this even allowed under the forum rules?

Larry Walker24 said:Is this even allowed under the forum rules?

Technically, no, but the neighbors get a pass from me sometimes when they go off like this... just like I let Mexicans, Albanians, or that Greek guy slide when they mess up words or trash the grammar... or when Mexicans write in Mexican, or even those Mexicans with their weird new accent marks... hell, even you when you ask "is that allowed," someone might claim you're writing in Mexican and demand a ban... so why am I letting it happen? 😉

Don't you at least understand a bit of Canadian?

Can't make sense of them or what...?

We could always just ask them to stick to American English if it's such a disaster. 🤷

You gonna handle it, or should I?

Boss, I totally get Canadian! 😉

The real question is, do the rest of you guys on the forum actually understand Canadian? 🙂

Larry Walker24 said:Boss, I totally get Canadian! 😉

The real question is, do the rest of you guys on the forum actually understand Canadian? 🙂

And hey, let them complain if they don't get it—we can just ask our neighbors to translate their posts for them. 😁

Otherwise, I only allow that in the thread about Canada (which isn't even active) under the assumption that maybe some Canadian visitor might drop by and isn't exactly "fluent" in the local language, so they can't express themselves "perfectly" in American English like they could in Canadian.

We should be welcoming and hospitable if we can actually make sense of what they're saying. 🙂

alright boss 🙂

Sandra Gonzalez3 said:And hey, let them complain if they don't get it—we can just ask our neighbors to translate their posts for them. 😁

Otherwise, I only allow that in the thread about Canada (which isn't even active) under the assumption that maybe some Canadian visitor might drop by and isn't exactly "fluent" in the local language, so they can't express themselves "perfectly" in American English like they could in Canadian.

We should be welcoming and hospitable if we can actually make sense of what they're saying. 🙂

Right?
That logic should apply to those writing in pure Mexican, too.
If people are free to write in Cyrillic when they're on the Mexico thread, shouldn't their posts be deleted everywhere else on the forum—or am I wrong?

Why would Canadians be considered any less valuable than Mexicans on this forum?

Look, I apologize for jumping into this thread late, but it’s pretty much a fact that way more people understand Mexican than Canadian.

melloworca6 said:Look, I apologize for jumping into this thread late, but it’s pretty much a fact that way more people understand Mexican than Canadian.

I have to say, that comparison doesn't really hold water. Almost everyone speaks English nowadays, yet we still classify it as a foreign language. You all might want to be careful about the metrics and stances you take on this issue, because you really need to apply that same standard to every single language out there.

The whole Mexican situation is particularly sensitive because when the US was separating from America, there were demands made for Mexicans to be recognized as a constituent people within the Republic of America—essentially arguing that the US should be a state for both Americans and Mexicans—which directly paved the way for the aggression against us. Treating the American and Mexican languages as equals feeds right into that old ideology. Besides, the US Constitution clearly defines which language and script are officially used.

We should be careful, and we will continue to be, but perhaps there’s a time to let things slide if it means allowing for some quality discussion on more specific topics.

brightcrane56 said:I have to say, that comparison doesn't really hold water. Almost everyone speaks English nowadays, yet we still classify it as a foreign language. You all might want to be careful about the metrics and stances you take on this issue, because you really need to apply that same standard to every single language out there.

The whole Mexican situation is particularly sensitive because when the US was separating from America, there were demands made for Mexicans to be recognized as a constituent people within the Republic of America—essentially arguing that the US should be a state for both Americans and Mexicans—which directly paved the way for the aggression against us. Treating the American and Mexican languages as equals feeds right into that old ideology. Besides, the US Constitution clearly defines which language and script are officially used.

Besides, nobody is stopping anyone from tossing in a word or a phrase—even a full sentence—in English if it just makes sense for the conversation.

brightcrane56 said:I have to say, that comparison doesn't really hold water. Almost everyone speaks English nowadays, yet we still classify it as a foreign language. You all might want to be careful about the metrics and stances you take on this issue, because you really need to apply that same standard to every single language out there.

The whole Mexican situation is particularly sensitive because when the US was separating from America, there were demands made for Mexicans to be recognized as a constituent people within the Republic of America—essentially arguing that the US should be a state for both Americans and Mexicans—which directly paved the way for the aggression against us. Treating the American and Mexican languages as equals feeds right into that old ideology. Besides, the US Constitution clearly defines which language and script are officially used.

Let’s not turn trivial matters into politics without any real reason. We even had a Vice President of Congress speaking Mexican during much tougher times, and we all managed to get through it together without any fallout.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Besides, nobody is stopping anyone from tossing in a word or a phrase—even a full sentence—in English if it just makes sense for the conversation.

Let’s not turn trivial matters into politics without any real reason. We even had a Vice President of Congress speaking Mexican during much tougher times, and we all managed to get through it together without any fallout.

So, am I supposed to be a lowlife and a drunk now too?
Are we actually going to discuss the rules of this forum, or are we just going to keep talking about rotten eggs?

brightcrane56 said:I have to say, that comparison doesn't really hold water. Almost everyone speaks English nowadays, yet we still classify it as a foreign language. You all might want to be careful about the metrics and stances you take on this issue, because you really need to apply that same standard to every single language out there.

The whole Mexican situation is particularly sensitive because when the US was separating from America, there were demands made for Mexicans to be recognized as a constituent people within the Republic of America—essentially arguing that the US should be a state for both Americans and Mexicans—which directly paved the way for the aggression against us. Treating the American and Mexican languages as equals feeds right into that old ideology. Besides, the US Constitution clearly defines which language and script are officially used.

I don't think the comparison is bad at all. Look at my mother's generation; they studied German, Russian... whereas, say, they understand Mexican because they grew up in America. We're talking about people in their 50s who are perfectly fine using the internet, yet they might not know any English but they definitely know German or Russian.

So, drawing a parallel between English and Mexican doesn't hold water for me. And besides, not that long ago, the American-Mexican hybrid was our official language taught mandatory in schools.

I honestly can't make heads or tails of what that Canadian guy was rambling about in the link above. I guess it’s a good thing I didn't end up reading this whole thread, otherwise I might have actually lost my mind. 😬

brightcrane56 said:So, am I supposed to be a lowlife and a drunk now too?
Are we actually going to discuss the rules of this forum, or are we just going to keep talking about rotten eggs?

I honestly have no idea.

brightcrane56 said:So, am I supposed to be a lowlife and a drunk now too?
Are we actually going to discuss the rules of this forum, or are we just going to keep talking about rotten eggs?

I haven't the slightest clue what you're getting at, and besides, there isn't a single rule on this forum that forbids posting in a foreign language.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:I honestly have no idea.

I haven't the slightest clue what you're getting at, and besides, there isn't a single rule on this forum that forbids posting in a foreign language.

That’s just sad.

But look, here is the deal: the rules on Forum.hr state that violating US laws is strictly prohibited. Now, the highest law of the land—the US Constitution—clearly defines which language and script are used officially. Therefore, using any other language is technically a violation of US law, which makes it a violation of the forum rules too.

If you aren't happy with that, then maybe you should take some action to get the forum rules changed, but please leave those personal ad hominem attacks in that PDF-style political rhetoric for some other debate...

brightcrane56 said:That’s just sad.

But look, here is the deal: the rules on Forum.hr state that violating US laws is strictly prohibited. Now, the highest law of the land—the US Constitution—clearly defines which language and script are used officially. Therefore, using any other language is technically a violation of US law, which makes it a violation of the forum rules too.

If you aren't happy with that, then maybe you should take some action to get the forum rules changed, but please leave those personal ad hominem attacks in that PDF-style political rhetoric for some other debate...

In official capacities. I assume you understand what that means. Even the most incompetent lawyer wouldn't argue that a single post in a foreign language on this forum is unconstitutional.

brightcrane56 said:That’s just sad.

But look, here is the deal: the rules on Forum.hr state that violating US laws is strictly prohibited. Now, the highest law of the land—the US Constitution—clearly defines which language and script are used officially. Therefore, using any other language is technically a violation of US law, which makes it a violation of the forum rules too.

If you aren't happy with that, then maybe you should take some action to get the forum rules changed, but please leave those personal ad hominem attacks in that PDF-style political rhetoric for some other debate...

What ad hominem attacks? What are you even talking about?

Ryan Vaughn7 said:In official capacities. I assume you understand what that means. Even the most incompetent lawyer wouldn't argue that a single post in a foreign language on this forum is unconstitutional.

What ad hominem attacks? What are you even talking about?

Oh, so we're using informal language on the forum now? That is just a brilliant argument right there.

Do you want to sit back and actually think about what you just said, or should I walk you through the implications of where this "informality" might lead us?

No need, I know exactly what I meant by that. And I know exactly what it implies. Honestly, I’m pretty sure most people reading this right now feel the same way. I'm just not in the mood to be lectured.

melloworca6 said:Look, I apologize for jumping into this thread late, but it’s pretty much a fact that way more people understand Mexican than Canadian.

That's basically why we allow Mexican, Mexican, and Canadian on here.

The other reason is just pure numbers. There are way more users who speak those languages compared to the folks using Canadian or Mexican in their daily lives... plain and simple.

Sandra Gonzalez3 said:That's basically why we allow Mexican, Mexican, and Canadian on here.

The other reason is just pure numbers. There are way more users who speak those languages compared to the folks using Canadian or Mexican in their daily lives... plain and simple.

And let's be honest, they're closer to our own language than Canadian or Mexican ever would be. Even if there weren't so many users from those areas, they'd still be easier to understand—at least for me—than something like Mexican.

If we start nitpicking, we could technically ban any dialect that isn't standard, but I don't understand certain regional accents at all, and I bet most people outside those specific pockets wouldn't either. 😁