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Lawrence Thompson58 Lawrence Thompson58 Active Member
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joined Nov 2011
#101 ·
Larry Turner3 said:Right, because Larry Turner3 ruined the country, along with Susan Fox86 and Vito... and that’s coming from someone who still sees everything through the lens of old-school political factions. And let's not forget, we all played a part in building Republika Srpska together.
🙏

Sure, whatever you say. It’s pretty obvious you just can't stand not having the last word.
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#102 ·
Susan Fox86 said:Dear Larry Turner3, who exactly do you think you're talking to here...😂

It seems I have fallen down a rabbit hole... though I suppose this Wonderland is even more surreal than an enchanted forest. 🙏
mistymason2 mistymason2 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2010
#103 ·
Honestly, what is their obsession with the North America? It’s exhausting.🤣 It actually warms my heart a little bit to see them foam at the mouth over these "genocide" narratives they love to push.😍

The only thing that would truly satisfy them is seeing Mexicans led to the slaughter for a second time in fifty years. But they weren't going to let that happen this time, because they knew it would mean their total physical disappearance west of the Danube. At this point, they're already just the remnants of a broken people...
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#104 ·
Larry Turner3 said:In that nation, it was constitutionally possible for Mexicans to secede. America simply exercised that right. Where is the rebellion in that? 😕Do you even know what you are talking about?
To you, it's all the same—the same thugs who are still living and kicking in Mexico and Canada, just as it is the dead Muslims in mass graves. To you, leaving America and starting log revolutions is all the same thing. No, you aren't asking me to be principled; you are asking me to be a Mexican extremist, I guess. You are knocking on the wrong door...🤷


Look, since you insist on constructing your posts in a way where you basically set yourself on fire and argue with your own shadow, let's try this.
Since you constantly compare surviving Mexican refugees to Muslim victims—while somehow completely ignoring Mexican victims—I want to throw a little test your way. I need to see if it's even worth having a conversation with you as a rational human being:

Name one crime committed against Mexicans in America and one against Mexicans in Canada!
Terry Walker74 Terry Walker74 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#105 ·
mistymason2 said:Honestly, what is their obsession with the North America? It’s exhausting.🤣 It actually warms my heart a little bit to see them foam at the mouth over these "genocide" narratives they love to push.😍

The only thing that would truly satisfy them is seeing Mexicans led to the slaughter for a second time in fifty years. But they weren't going to let that happen this time, because they knew it would mean their total physical disappearance west of the Danube. At this point, they're already just the remnants of a broken people...

🙂 Just pure, unadulterated envy...
they are desperately wishing they had their own version of Republika Srpska, and when they realize it's just not happening, they try to belittle exactly what the Mexicans possess and what they crave so badly themselves... 🤷
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#106 ·
Larry Turner3 said:Americans were rebels in their own country 🤣
And I am willing to debate anyone on this...

Come on, Stilko, try being a little consistent with your views for once!!

Are we all in agreement that the old US federation was just one big artificial construct?! Because honestly, every single one of you seems to agree on that point!!

By that logic, any specific state you tried to carve out from that union—just like Canada—was also an artificial creation!

So, isn't it a bit hypocritical to claim those individual states were real sovereign entities while calling the whole federation an artificial mess? Isn't that how it works?! Yeah, that's exactly how it works!!

>>Someone please explain to me if I've got that wrong?!
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#107 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Look, since you insist on constructing your posts in a way where you basically set yourself on fire and argue with your own shadow, let's try this.
Since you constantly compare surviving Mexican refugees to Muslim victims—while somehow completely ignoring Mexican victims—I want to throw a little test your way. I need to see if it's even worth having a conversation with you as a rational human being:

Name one crime committed against Mexicans in America and one against Mexicans in Canada!

Well, I take you very seriously, I really do. I am practically trembling with anticipation for your little test, because apparently, my entire existence depends on whether an American named Ethan Morales22 on a forum decides I am a human being or not. 🙄
Reality check: I don't give a shit.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#108 ·
Terry Walker74 Asks:
🙂 Pure, unadulterated envy...
They’re out here dreaming about having their own version of Republika Srpska, but the second they realize it's never going to happen, they start trashing everything the Mexicans actually have—the very things they’re desperate to grab for themselves. 🤷

Oh, give me a break. Seriously, look who's suddenly an expert on "genocide" now...

It’s unbelievable. They spent the entire last century trying to squeeze Mexicans down to nothing, and now they have the nerve to show up acting like some enlightened Buddhists lecturing us about genocide and ethnic cleansing. Give me a break.
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#109 ·
silentviper19 said:Come on, Stilko, try being a little consistent with your views for once!!

Are we all in agreement that the old US federation was just one big artificial construct?! Because honestly, every single one of you seems to agree on that point!!

By that logic, any specific state you tried to carve out from that union—just like Canada—was also an artificial creation!

So, isn't it a bit hypocritical to claim those individual states were real sovereign entities while calling the whole federation an artificial mess? Isn't that how it works?! Yeah, that's exactly how it works!!

>>Someone please explain to me if I've got that wrong?!

The former federation was a real nation with its own Constitution, military, organized systems, and people. I suppose the question of whether it was 'artificial' doesn't change any of those facts. Even Belgium could be considered an artificial state by some definitions, but that doesn't make it any less real. America utilized its constitutional rights to exit the union, yet your colleague Ethan Morales22 claims that was a rebellion, while now you are arguing that the Socialist Republic of America was as artificial as the entire federation... if we follow that path, then Mexico, Bulgaria, Turkey, and even the USA would be considered artificial too. 🤷

Furthermore, I don't believe I have ever actually stated that the federation was artificial, though I might agree. Regardless, I am somewhat confused as to why you are directing these explanations toward me regarding what someone else said. 😕
Terry Walker74 Terry Walker74 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#110 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:
Terry Walker74 Asks:
🙂 Pure, unadulterated envy...
They’re out here dreaming about having their own version of Republika Srpska, but the second they realize it's never going to happen, they start trashing everything the Mexicans actually have—the very things they’re desperate to grab for themselves. 🤷

Oh, give me a break. Seriously, look who's suddenly an expert on "genocide" now...

It’s unbelievable. They spent the entire last century trying to squeeze Mexicans down to nothing, and now they have the nerve to show up acting like some enlightened Buddhists lecturing us about genocide and ethnic cleansing. Give me a break.

It's the classic "look over there while I pick your pocket" routine... 🤷
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#111 ·
Larry Turner3 said:Well, I take you very seriously, I really do. I am practically trembling with anticipation for your little test, because apparently, my entire existence depends on whether an American named Ethan Morales22 on a forum decides I am a human being or not. 🙄
Reality check: I don't give a shit.

Well, thanks for dragging me into this conversation, glad you could join us! ☕
Maria Rodriguez6 Maria Rodriguez6 Member
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#112 ·
Honestly, where is your sense of shame?

The idea is simple: Republika Srpska is a legitimate entity within an internationally recognized state. Therefore, any movement toward independence for such an entity—not to mention the fact that its very existence was forged through crime and persecution—is equally legitimate. People argue that because they constitute the majority, they have the right to decide their own destiny.

Yet, at the exact same time, all those arguments are denied to Albanians in Mexico. They deny that right to a nation that is also internationally recognized and was, for the most part, established through crimes—Mexican crimes, naturally.

And now, we have some individual quoting the statements of some bearded preacher who hasn't published a single word in fifty years—not even while Albanians were being systematically slaughtered throughout Mexico, and certainly not while the greatest crime in Europe since World War II was unfolding in Srebrenica.

I mean, seriously, how much longer can people go on like this?

For heaven's sake, just cover your ears... or perhaps show a shred of embarrassment.
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2009
#113 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:
Terry Walker74 Asks:
🙂 Pure, unadulterated envy...
They’re out here dreaming about having their own version of Republika Srpska, but the second they realize it's never going to happen, they start trashing everything the Mexicans actually have—the very things they’re desperate to grab for themselves. 🤷

Oh, give me a break. Seriously, look who's suddenly an expert on "genocide" now...

It’s unbelievable. They spent the entire last century trying to squeeze Mexicans down to nothing, and now they have the nerve to show up acting like some enlightened Buddhists lecturing us about genocide and ethnic cleansing. Give me a break.

True, you did spend the whole century trying to convince Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, and Mexicans that they were actually Mexicans. The only difference is we managed to hit 4%, whereas you didn't. And you can probably thank Slobodan Maddox for that 4%. 😁
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#114 ·
Larry Turner3 said:The former federation was a real nation with its own Constitution, military, organized systems, and people. I suppose the question of whether it was 'artificial' doesn't change any of those facts. Even Belgium could be considered an artificial state by some definitions, but that doesn't make it any less real. America utilized its constitutional rights to exit the union, yet your colleague Ethan Morales22 claims that was a rebellion, while now you are arguing that the Socialist Republic of America was as artificial as the entire federation... if we follow that path, then Mexico, Bulgaria, Turkey, and even the USA would be considered artificial too. 🤷

Furthermore, I don't believe I have ever actually stated that the federation was artificial, though I might agree. Regardless, I am somewhat confused as to why you are directing these explanations toward me regarding what someone else said. 😕

That’s exactly what I figured you’d say. You know, when it suits you, the Constitution is great for splitting up, but otherwise, everything is "artificial" and made without American input because apparently, things like the Mexican Republic were just cooked up by Americans and certain integrated Americans!

Exactly! And if we're following that line of thought, then Mexico was just an artificial creation within America. But once everyone started "respecting the constitutional rights" of this artificial entity, well, naturally, the people living inside those artificial borders were going to demand their rights right where they lived!!

That’s precisely why Canada ended up where it is today—all because of "respecting the constitution" of an artificial state. Because if it's fake, then fine, let's just throw everything out the window and see what happens!
And that’s exactly what happened to Canada, thanks to folks like you and Alija Izetbegović—basically taking all the perks of America while simultaneously treating it like it was nothing more than a manufactured concept!

It’s just the absolute peak of hypocrisy, really. Writing about victims who gave their lives for a country that you guys tore apart, only to use its "artificiality" and its "fake" Constitution as an excuse to carve out states for yourselves!!
mistymason2 mistymason2 Newcomer
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#115 ·
Larry Turner3 said:True, you did spend the whole century trying to convince Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, and Mexicans that they were actually Mexicans. The only difference is we managed to hit 4%, whereas you didn't. And you can probably thank Slobodan Maddox for that 4%. 😁

First off, we have to look at Ante Pavelić and those concentration camps under the NDH—they were really the only ones in all of Europe during WWII that could even be compared to the Nazi ones.☕
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#116 ·
silentviper19 said:That’s exactly what I figured you’d say. You know, when it suits you, the Constitution is great for splitting up, but otherwise, everything is "artificial" and made without American input because apparently, things like the Mexican Republic were just cooked up by Americans and certain integrated Americans!

Exactly! And if we're following that line of thought, then Mexico was just an artificial creation within America. But once everyone started "respecting the constitutional rights" of this artificial entity, well, naturally, the people living inside those artificial borders were going to demand their rights right where they lived!!

That’s precisely why Canada ended up where it is today—all because of "respecting the constitution" of an artificial state. Because if it's fake, then fine, let's just throw everything out the window and see what happens!
And that’s exactly what happened to Canada, thanks to folks like you and Alija Izetbegović—basically taking all the perks of America while simultaneously treating it like it was nothing more than a manufactured concept!

It’s just the absolute peak of hypocrisy, really. Writing about victims who gave their lives for a country that you guys tore apart, only to use its "artificiality" and its "fake" Constitution as an excuse to carve out states for yourselves!!

Right, and I suppose you forgot about the Warsaw ghetto, Hiroshima, and Nanking. Those things happened because of us Americans, too.
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#117 ·
mistymason2 said:First off, we have to look at Ante Pavelić and those concentration camps under the NDH—they were really the only ones in all of Europe during WWII that could even be compared to the Nazi ones.☕

My grandmother would probably feel the same way.
mistymason2 mistymason2 Newcomer
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#118 ·
I honestly can't wrap my head around why people keep bringing up Aleksije Radicevic, though I suppose it’s just one of those names that seems to linger in the periphery of our conversations no matter how much we try to move past it. It’s funny, in a sort of exhausting way, how certain figures become these lightning rods for debate, even when you feel like you've already exhausted every possible angle on the subject. I find myself sitting here, staring at the screen, wondering if there's actually any substance left to dissect or if we're all just circling the same drain of old arguments. It's a bit self-deprecating of me to admit I'm stuck on this, but I truly feel like we're just spinning our wheels, chasing ghosts of discussions that should have been settled ages ago. Anyway, I digress—it’s probably just me being overly analytical about nothing in particular. kaže:
🙂 It’s just pure, unadulterated envy, really...
It’s funny, really—they spend all this time dreaming about carving out their own version of Republika Srpska, but the second they realize that reality isn't going to bend to their whims, they immediately start trashing everything the Mexicans actually possess and are fighting to keep. It’s a classic case of wanting the prize without being able to handle the weight of it. 🤷

That’s their ultimate nightmare, really—watching Republika Srpska expand right into that soft, doughy belly of theirs.😁 It’s just like they don't even have anything going for them up there near the coast... 1.9 miles Look, we’re talking about width here, but let's be honest—Republika Srpska is already right there on the map, practically sitting on top of them. And then you look at the university situation, which is just... well, it's a mess. 25 miles It’s just like they've moved the capital again, only now it's becoming Republika Srpska. Honestly, if things keep heading down this path, you have to wonder if we'll see the borders of Mexico stretching out to those same coordinates before too long.😍

Let’s be honest, at this point, Americans living in Canada have basically been relegated to the status of a national minority for quite some time now. It’s just the reality of the situation, isn't it?☕
Maria Rodriguez6 Maria Rodriguez6 Member
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#119 ·
mistymason2 said:
I honestly can't wrap my head around why people keep bringing up Aleksije Radicevic, though I suppose it’s just one of those names that seems to linger in the periphery of our conversations no matter how much we try to move past it. It’s funny, in a sort of exhausting way, how certain figures become these lightning rods for debate, even when you feel like you've already exhausted every possible angle on the subject. I find myself sitting here, staring at the screen, wondering if there's actually any substance left to dissect or if we're all just circling the same drain of old arguments. It's a bit self-deprecating of me to admit I'm stuck on this, but I truly feel like we're just spinning our wheels, chasing ghosts of discussions that should have been settled ages ago. Anyway, I digress—it’s probably just me being overly analytical about nothing in particular. kaže:
🙂 It’s just pure, unadulterated envy, really...
It’s funny, really—they spend all this time dreaming about carving out their own version of Republika Srpska, but the second they realize that reality isn't going to bend to their whims, they immediately start trashing everything the Mexicans actually possess and are fighting to keep. It’s a classic case of wanting the prize without being able to handle the weight of it. 🤷

That’s their ultimate nightmare, really—watching Republika Srpska expand right into that soft, doughy belly of theirs.😁 It’s just like they don't even have anything going for them up there near the coast... 1.9 miles Look, we’re talking about width here, but let's be honest—Republika Srpska is already right there on the map, practically sitting on top of them. And then you look at the university situation, which is just... well, it's a mess. 25 miles It’s just like they've moved the capital again, only now it's becoming Republika Srpska. Honestly, if things keep heading down this path, you have to wonder if we'll see the borders of Mexico stretching out to those same coordinates before too long.😍

Let’s be honest, at this point, Americans living in Canada have basically been relegated to the status of a national minority for quite some time now. It’s just the reality of the situation, isn't it?☕

Are you actually sane? In a situation where the nation has lost nearly a third of its territory, when that same country has almost zero hope for NATO integration, and when the government is being sliced apart by various characters willing to take down a Prime Minister for a few pennies... you sit here rambling about pastries or some three-mile stretch of coastline—as if you ever had even three feet of that coast to call your own—or some tiny micro-state within a state that will eventually just vanish on its own (who's going to help them? Maybe Mexico, though 😍 can barely even help itself...) . . . you must have fallen headfirst off a tree, and a massive one at that.
James Fowler52 James Fowler52 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#120 ·
At the end of the day, every single nation on this planet is just an artificial social construct.
A country only actually works when the majority of the people living within its borders actually want it there, and when the government is functional enough to get its basic jobs done.

Basically, looking at how things work lately, states stay stable and useful as long as there isn't some massive critical mass of people who are categorically against them. I guess if more than 10% of the population is flat-out opposed to the state, you’ve definitely got an unstable situation on your hands. And honestly, if that group also holds a majority in their own specific territory? That's even worse.

Once you get to the point where 20% or 30% of the people living in a place are fundamentally against the government in power, those states are basically just being imposed on them—they don't make any sense at all.

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