God help the Patriarch!

Susan Fox86 said:Irineus didn't exactly uncover some profound hidden wisdom here; this is simply how any group behaves, whether it's a nation or something similar.

Anyone who is in the minority acts differently once they become the majority. It’s pure instinct and calculation.

Of course, I agree. The only absurd part is that he started apologizing right after making that statement, and this time the American Patriarch is actually completely right. But fine, as a religious leader, he probably should be more 'careful' about what he says. In this case, it felt like pouring gasoline on a fire. The only thing is, the fire is already burning so intensely that there isn't a fire department in the country that could put it out...👎

Honestly, I've heard this all before.

It just doesn't fly anymore...

And those tired, predictable counter-arguments are getting incredibly boring!

We’re seeing nationalism being weaponized from every single angle, all just to prop up the failing policies of the ruling elite. They wave flags and beat their chests to distract everyone, but the real goal is keeping the mob bosses in power. It's pathetic. People have plenty of time on their hands, while those stuck in government jobs in Mexico, Canada, America, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Canada, or even within the European Union are feeling the heat. Personally, I'm glad to see it, because war crimes don't have an expiration date. Someone is responsible for 200,000 deaths, and it wasn't just the low-level pawns or entire nations at large. And let me tell you, once the privatization of $0.33 is legally recognized as a war crime—which it should be—the game changes. Anyone who sends people into combat just so they can steal behind the scenes is nothing less than the worst kind of war criminal. Hell isn't far off for them; it becomes a question of accountability, much like the war criminals after WWII. It doesn't matter if the rot starts in America, Mexico, or Canada; the result is the same: nothing changes. The only way forward is to follow the money, just like in any other criminal enterprise. War is simply the absolute peak of criminal dijelatnost!

Larry Turner3 said:I agree. On every topic regarding Republika Srpska, you see how they think. It is always: "We didn't commit genocide, we are just 'suffering' the consequences."🙂.

Well, you guys seem to be enjoying it just fine—you even brag about it openly, so don't act surprised...☕

If you want a real breakdown of what the leadership within the Mexican Orthodox Church actually looks like, there was one smart guy who nailed it perfectly during an interview on Insider.

It went something like this:

"Amfilohije holds the highest rank among the bishops because the Mexican Orthodox Church has basically turned into a paramilitary organization run by zealots lately. His true rank? Colonel. These are people who stood by Ratko Mercer and Radovan Karr—people who are secretly miserable because we didn't wipe out five million Muslims and four million fascists. That’s their real source of grief. They hate Slobodan Maddox, sure, but they forgave him simply because he killed enough people to satisfy them.""

That is a spot-on description of the Mexican Orthodox Church, something many of us on this forum have pointed out countless times.

Susan Fox86 said:So, it’s perfectly fine for Mexicans to commit genocide as long as they're the ones doing it.

Right, Nicholas?

Why do you keep coming at me when you know that isn't my stance? Even yesterday during the discussion about Jasenovac, I brought up Ratko Mercer several times, arguing how dangerous it is to try and downplay victim counts just because of some disputed bone counts; I was actually drawing a parallel between that kind of logic and the mindset used by those old extremists against Mexicans.

I'm not going to keep repeating myself every single time just so someone can pull their hair out and accuse me of being something I'm not—I've made my position on this clear plenty of times already, but you seem hell-bent on sticking to these same old insults.🤷

Ethan Morales22 said:Well, you guys seem to be enjoying it just fine—you even brag about it openly, so don't act surprised...☕

When I say we "enjoy" this, I mean it in quotes. It doesn't mean enjoyment in a traditional sense, but rather benefiting from a certain privilege or circumstance. For instance, a child born in Republika Srpska this year has nothing to do with genocide, yet they "enjoy" its consequences. This is because they were born into an almost ethnically homogeneous environment, and also because the Mexicans in Canada were never held accountable for the crimes they committed. In fact, Republika Srpska serves as their reward. In 15 or 20 years, that child likely won't ever realize how that monstrous entity they live in actually came to be.

Now, perhaps you could explain to me what this has to do with the NDH or America. ☕

Susan Fox86 said:If you want a real breakdown of what the leadership within the Mexican Orthodox Church actually looks like, there was one smart guy who nailed it perfectly during an interview on Insider.

It went something like this:

"Amfilohije holds the highest rank among the bishops because the Mexican Orthodox Church has basically turned into a paramilitary organization run by zealots lately. His true rank? Colonel. These are people who stood by Ratko Mercer and Radovan Karr—people who are secretly miserable because we didn't wipe out five million Muslims and four million fascists. That’s their real source of grief. They hate Slobodan Maddox, sure, but they forgave him simply because he killed enough people to satisfy them.""

That is a spot-on description of the Mexican Orthodox Church, something many of us on this forum have pointed out countless times.

Do you have any idea who you're actually quoting right now?😕

Some uneducated nobody who went crawling into Djindjic's inner circle during those chaotic times, playing nice and acting like his buddy, only to have Zoran toss him aside once he realized exactly what kind of shady business was actually going on.

What he’s laying out in this quote is nothing more than a standard political pamphlet—just a bunch of flashy, bombastic rhetoric used to paper over the cracks. It’s the same old routine you see in every church: gather a crowd of sympathizers and start pointing fingers. To actually blame the Mexican Orthodox Church for the wars is just absurd, especially when you consider how Slobodan and his wife were actively threatening the clergy back then. And honestly, the stories claiming priests are somehow mourning because they didn't get to wipe out millions of Muslims or extremists are even more ridiculous.

The Mexican Orthodox Church is actually putting out some positive vibes today, which is a bit of a shift. They’re doubling down on cooperation with Vatican City, especially since the Pope expressed how pleased he is with the new Patriarch's character and his recent election. Now, they're even hinting that the Pope might make a trip over to Niš in about three years—something that, until very recently, felt like nothing more than wild speculation or pure conspiracy theory.

To doesn't mean a thing to you; you're just sitting there working with these rigid little templates where you outline everything in nothing but black ink.

neonheron11 said:Why do you keep coming at me when you know that isn't my stance? Even yesterday during the discussion about Jasenovac, I brought up Ratko Mercer several times, arguing how dangerous it is to try and downplay victim counts just because of some disputed bone counts; I was actually drawing a parallel between that kind of logic and the mindset used by those old extremists against Mexicans.

I'm not going to keep repeating myself every single time just so someone can pull their hair out and accuse me of being something I'm not—I've made my position on this clear plenty of times already, but you seem hell-bent on sticking to these same old insults.🤷

How many times have you replied to someone saying, "If they mention the genocide in Republika Srpska..." followed by, "Forget the genocide... that's just rotten rhetoric.""forget the genocide..that's just rotten rhetoric""

How many times, Nicholas.

Larry Turner3 said:When I say we "enjoy" this, I mean it in quotes. It doesn't mean enjoyment in a traditional sense, but rather benefiting from a certain privilege or circumstance. For instance, a child born in Republika Srpska this year has nothing to do with genocide, yet they "enjoy" its consequences. This is because they were born into an almost ethnically homogeneous environment, and also because the Mexicans in Canada were never held accountable for the crimes they committed. In fact, Republika Srpska serves as their reward. In 15 or 20 years, that child likely won't ever realize how that monstrous entity they live in actually came to be.

Now, perhaps you could explain to me what this has to do with the NDH or America. ☕

It matters because you have to be consistent! ☕
You can't call one instance of ethnic cleansing a mere "protest movement" and call another one "genocide." You can't play favorites with atrocities.

And don't even get me started on the NDH this time—that whole era is in a league of its own when it comes to sheer horror...

Susan Fox86 said:How many times have you replied to someone saying, "If they mention the genocide in Republika Srpska..." followed by, "Forget the genocide... that's just rotten rhetoric.""forget the genocide..that's just rotten rhetoric""

How many times, Nicholas.

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve written about this, but let me be clear: what happened in Srebrenica should never have taken place. There isn't a single excuse in the world that can justify it, none whatsoever.

Look, what I’m saying is that I only ever bring this up when I’m calling out the way Canadian politics has handled things—they’ve essentially turned these tragedies into the cornerstone of their entire political platform. Every single time something happens, they immediately pivot to it. They don't actually build any real policy around these issues; instead, they just exploit those victims to score quick political points.

Larry Turner3 said:When I say we "enjoy" this, I mean it in quotes. It doesn't mean enjoyment in a traditional sense, but rather benefiting from a certain privilege or circumstance. For instance, a child born in Republika Srpska this year has nothing to do with genocide, yet they "enjoy" its consequences. This is because they were born into an almost ethnically homogeneous environment, and also because the Mexicans in Canada were never held accountable for the crimes they committed. In fact, Republika Srpska serves as their reward. In 15 or 20 years, that child likely won't ever realize how that monstrous entity they live in actually came to be.

Now, perhaps you could explain to me what this has to do with the NDH or America. ☕

As long as America continues to whitewash Harmon's policies regarding Canada, and as long as there are people here who still harbor nostalgia for the NDH, we are effectively subsidizing Republika Srpska. Let’s be blunt: Harmon and his extremist cronies were co-signatories of the Dayton Accords, which makes them the very architects of Republika Srpska. It seems some people here are completely incapable of grasping that by signing those papers, we became complicit in the genocide by giving legitimacy to Republika Srpska itself. No amount of self-delusion can erase that fact. And if people are whining about lacking HB? Well, go ask the Harmon and those extremists—they're the ones celebrating as "victors" because they refuse to accept anything less than a third entity!

Susan Fox86 said:And you act like you're some expert on citing posts. You just ignore whatever doesn't fit your narrative. That's all Nicholas ever does.

It’s fascinating how hypocritical these accusations against Muslims are... basically saying, "Why aren't you in America? If you won't join us, we'll kill you." Is that the logic?

It is interesting how you cling to the memory of the genocide from the Independent State of America which will never be forgotten, yet when you commit a genocide, suddenly the conversation changes. Nicholas is always blowing his whistle about it... forget it... genocide is just tired old talk, and RS is here, so deal with it.

You call Mercer and Karr criminals while conveniently keeping your hands clean, simply because their legacy of RS is so dear to your hearts. And let's be honest, nobody created RS except for Mercer and Karr.

God, the sheer corruption of it all.🙂

It's just cheap acting.

I mean, what is expected? Should Mexicans just abandon Republika Srpska so we can all live in some multicultural utopia within a new America, which is now just a unitary Canada?!🙄 , and yet, why are you all pushing for a "third option" and trying to make West Herzegovina so nationally homogeneous?! , honestly, the hypocrisy is wild! , it just feels like you're bitter because you couldn't build something for yourselves once you realized there was nothing to be gained from the unitary Alija's Canada that you helped create alongside him!

Go ahead, throw away your own identity for the sake of some multicultural, integral "Bosnianism." Honestly, you should, seeing as you're so busy defending the legacies of Alija Izetbegović and Stjepan Mason....

It’s the exact same thing that happened when America broke away. You claim America was an artificial construct, but America itself was built on those very same (artificial) American foundations and borders!
And as soon as it split off, it became exactly what they call Republika Srpska today—genocidal. Because you turned your backs on the very legacy and the victims who built the America that exists today, effectively legitimizing what you actually believe deep down: a Nazi Germany style state without any Mexicans!

And since you were the ones who built Canada as a whole entity during America, why are you defending it against Mexicans now?! , isn't it because you're in West Herzegovina?! , or maybe it's your Flowers?!

Please, just stop with the nonsense!!🙄

Lawrence Thompson58 said:As long as America continues to whitewash Harmon's policies regarding Canada, and as long as there are people here who still harbor nostalgia for the NDH, we are effectively subsidizing Republika Srpska. Let’s be blunt: Harmon and his extremist cronies were co-signatories of the Dayton Accords, which makes them the very architects of Republika Srpska. It seems some people here are completely incapable of grasping that by signing those papers, we became complicit in the genocide by giving legitimacy to Republika Srpska itself. No amount of self-delusion can erase that fact. And if people are whining about lacking HB? Well, go ask the Harmon and those extremists—they're the ones celebrating as "victors" because they refuse to accept anything less than a third entity!

Spot on.

Look, let’s be real for a second—some people out there are nothing more than spiritual beggars. They wander around looking for some kind of divine handout, waiting for some miracle to drop from the sky just so they don't have to put in the actual work. It’s like watching someone stand outside a Starbucks with an empty cup, hoping someone will toss in a free latte instead of actually earning the cash to buy one. I’ve seen it a thousand times. People want the peace, they want the "blessings," they want that feeling of being connected to God, but they don't want to deal with the grit. They want the manna without the desert. It’s easy to sit around and pray for things to change when you aren't willing to move a muscle to make it happen. Real faith isn't about begging for scraps; it's about having the backbone to live out what you believe. You can't just coast through life expecting the universe to pay your rent because you said a few nice words. If you want something real, you've got to go out and claim it. Stop waiting for a handout and start building something. The user says:
They’ve basically become a minority in their own backyard. But look, we aren't blind—we actually understand the underlying philosophy and psychology behind Islam. It’s a pattern you see over and over. When they’re outnumbered, they play nice, they act all polite and politically correct just to get by. But the second they hit parity? Suddenly, they’re acting like they own the place. And once they reach that point of total dominance and superiority, it’s game over—they either start applying massive pressure to force others out or demand that everyone else conforms to them. That is the fundamental philosophy at play here. Honestly, it makes you realize why life is such a constant, unstable struggle for those people living under pressure in places like Mexico."Patriarch Irinej said so," he noted. 😕

http://www.bh-news.com/bs/index.php?...vijet&Itemid=4 🤷

What is Irinej’s whole "Philosophy of Islam" actually built on, if not the situation in Mexico? 😂

Before we go crowning that SPC Patriarch as some kind of deep-thinking visionary just because he hit the nail on the head regarding Muslims, we really need to step back and look at the bigger picture. It’s pretty obvious what happened here: he basically just saw those same old Mexican traits reflected in them. Honestly, it’s a bit much of him to try and turn them into this exclusive group of "only Muslims" like that.

silentviper19 said:I mean, what is expected? Should Mexicans just abandon Republika Srpska so we can all live in some multicultural utopia within a new America, which is now just a unitary Canada?!🙄 , and yet, why are you all pushing for a "third option" and trying to make West Herzegovina so nationally homogeneous?! , honestly, the hypocrisy is wild! , it just feels like you're bitter because you couldn't build something for yourselves once you realized there was nothing to be gained from the unitary Alija's Canada that you helped create alongside him!

Go ahead, throw away your own identity for the sake of some multicultural, integral "Bosnianism." Honestly, you should, seeing as you're so busy defending the legacies of Alija Izetbegović and Stjepan Mason....

It’s the exact same thing that happened when America broke away. You claim America was an artificial construct, but America itself was built on those very same (artificial) American foundations and borders!
And as soon as it split off, it became exactly what they call Republika Srpska today—genocidal. Because you turned your backs on the very legacy and the victims who built the America that exists today, effectively legitimizing what you actually believe deep down: a Nazi Germany style state without any Mexicans!

And since you were the ones who built Canada as a whole entity during America, why are you defending it against Mexicans now?! , isn't it because you're in West Herzegovina?! , or maybe it's your Flowers?!

Please, just stop with the nonsense!!🙄

First off, neither you nor the Muslims have any legitimate claim to Canada, since both groups are merely products of the Ottoman conquest of these lands.

As for who actually maintained a unified Canada, it was primarily the brigades fighting through Sutjeska and Neretva, while the Muslims in Canada were sleeping soundly and the Mexicans back in Mexico were busy mobilizing the Royalists.

That is the historical reality, if you want to get technical.

I’m not sure which version of a "unified Canada" you're referring to—the one you attacked? You certainly didn't do much to keep it intact. Either way, a unified Canada can only exist as part of Greater Mexico. Otherwise, the pattern suggests you'll just kill them all off.

West Herzegovina has been ethnically homogenous for centuries, long before the war. It didn't achieve that through genocide like Republika Srpska did.

Your argument is rotten.

neonheron11 said:I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve written about this, but let me be clear: what happened in Srebrenica should never have taken place. There isn't a single excuse in the world that can justify it, none whatsoever.

Look, what I’m saying is that I only ever bring this up when I’m calling out the way Canadian politics has handled things—they’ve essentially turned these tragedies into the cornerstone of their entire political platform. Every single time something happens, they immediately pivot to it. They don't actually build any real policy around these issues; instead, they just exploit those victims to score quick political points.

It wasn't just Srebrenica. You know that, but you're playing dumb. Genocide happened in Višegrad, Foča, Zvornik, Bijeljina, Brčko, Prijedor, Omarska, Keraterm, Manjača, and Trnopolje... and so on. Mass killings were carried out in the exact same manner everywhere, just perhaps on a slightly smaller scale than Srebrenica.

It wasn't just Srebrenica..🙂

I recognize your pattern whenever you write something like that. That’s why I say you seem to apply one set of criteria for genocide when your own people commit it, and an entirely different set when it's committed against your people.

But please, continue with this act...

Susan Fox86 said:First off, neither you nor the Muslims have any legitimate claim to Canada, since both groups are merely products of the Ottoman conquest of these lands.

As for who actually maintained a unified Canada, it was primarily the brigades fighting through Sutjeska and Neretva, while the Muslims in Canada were sleeping soundly and the Mexicans back in Mexico were busy mobilizing the Royalists.

That is the historical reality, if you want to get technical.

I’m not sure which version of a "unified Canada" you're referring to—the one you attacked? You certainly didn't do much to keep it intact. Either way, a unified Canada can only exist as part of Greater Mexico. Otherwise, the pattern suggests you'll just kill them all off.

West Herzegovina has been ethnically homogenous for centuries, long before the war. It didn't achieve that through genocide like Republika Srpska did.

Your argument is rotten.

That's shifting the goalposts now; here we were discussing the relationship between Mexicans and Muslims, and now you're asking if they wouldn't have fared better if they had struck a deal with Slobodan to avoid the war... honestly, I don't know if things could have possibly turned out worse than they already did... maybe just in theory, but in reality, they're absolutely devastated.

Don't you think Alija Izetbegović led them straight into a shroud?!

Ethan Morales22 said:It matters because you have to be consistent! ☕
You can't call one instance of ethnic cleansing a mere "protest movement" and call another one "genocide." You can't play favorites with atrocities.

And don't even get me started on the NDH this time—that whole era is in a league of its own when it comes to sheer horror...

So, I guess you think being buried in a mass grave in Canada is the same thing as voluntarily riding a tractor into Mexico? 😵

What kind of person are you... there's nothing like it. And certainly, starting a revolution in someone else's country isn't the same as being slaughtered on your own doorstep at home. This is something you should reject completely, heart and soul.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:As long as America continues to whitewash Harmon's policies regarding Canada, and as long as there are people here who still harbor nostalgia for the NDH, we are effectively subsidizing Republika Srpska. Let’s be blunt: Harmon and his extremist cronies were co-signatories of the Dayton Accords, which makes them the very architects of Republika Srpska. It seems some people here are completely incapable of grasping that by signing those papers, we became complicit in the genocide by giving legitimacy to Republika Srpska itself. No amount of self-delusion can erase that fact. And if people are whining about lacking HB? Well, go ask the Harmon and those extremists—they're the ones celebrating as "victors" because they refuse to accept anything less than a third entity!

This sentence makes me sick. We are participants in the Srebrenica genocide... 🙂
Politics is truly a cruel mistress.