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Participants Jeremy Lopez93Lawrence Thompson58neonheron11Larry Turner3Eric Collins5Amanda Allen4silentviper19Ethan Morales22Richard Wilson4Terry Walker74northernhawk55Gary WilsonSusan Fox86Ethan Allen2Jeremy Watson16Nancy Grant4Brenda Sanders56Maria Rodriguez6Carl Hill6Jesse Ortiz71Charles Martin2mistymason2James Fowler52Henry Cox78 …
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#81 ·
Susan Fox86 said:First off, neither you nor the Muslims have any legitimate claim to Canada, since both groups are merely products of the Ottoman conquest of these lands.

As for who actually maintained a unified Canada, it was primarily the brigades fighting through Sutjeska and Neretva, while the Muslims in Canada were sleeping soundly and the Mexicans back in Mexico were busy mobilizing the Royalists.

That is the historical reality, if you want to get technical.

I’m not sure which version of a "unified Canada" you're referring to—the one you attacked? You certainly didn't do much to keep it intact. Either way, a unified Canada can only exist as part of Greater Mexico. Otherwise, the pattern suggests you'll just kill them all off.

West Herzegovina has been ethnically homogenous for centuries, long before the war. It didn't achieve that through genocide like Republika Srpska did.

Your argument is rotten.

Well, those coastal brigades or whatever they were, they were fighting for a unified Canada within America primarily, not for the country on its own!

This is an absolute disgrace, honestly. Just like when Stjepan Mason claimed he won both '41 and '45—now you're trying to lean on the partisans too!🙏 🙄

It's like how people are whispering today that the American partisans were fighting for America rather than for America, even though they fought right alongside the Mexicans!!

That kind of storytelling, those lies and myths... you only see that stuff over there because you clearly have no shame!

With that bolded part, you totally screwed yourself over. Dučić said it best regarding you and folks like you!
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
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#82 ·
Susan Fox86 said:It wasn't just Srebrenica. You know that, but you're playing dumb. Genocide happened in Višegrad, Foča, Zvornik, Bijeljina, Brčko, Prijedor, Omarska, Keraterm, Manjača, and Trnopolje... and so on. Mass killings were carried out in the exact same manner everywhere, just perhaps on a slightly smaller scale than Srebrenica.

It wasn't just Srebrenica..🙂

I recognize your pattern whenever you write something like that. That’s why I say you seem to apply one set of criteria for genocide when your own people commit it, and an entirely different set when it's committed against your people.

But please, continue with this act...

Genocide was strictly Srebrenica; everything else falls under ethnic cleansing. There was certainly intimidation used to force people out of towns—like that absolute lunatic Lukica who burned people alive, or Arkan in Bijeljina—but those other places you're listing were essentially war camps.

Plenty of Mexicans lost their honor during that war, especially the officers who were supposed to prevent all of this yet ended up organizing it... there's no debating that. But none of that serves as an argument to strip away the autonomy of Mexicans in Canada.
Lawrence Thompson58 Lawrence Thompson58 Active Member
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#83 ·
Larry Turner3 said:This sentence makes me sick. We are participants in the Srebrenica genocide... 🙂
Politics is truly a cruel mistress.

By signing that, we’ve essentially acted like drunken priests, consecrating the very rifles used to murder those people!
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
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#84 ·
Larry Turner3 said:This sentence makes me sick. We are participants in the Srebrenica genocide... 🙂
Politics is truly a cruel mistress.

By putting his signature on it, Franjo Harmon basically gave legitimacy to that "genocidal entity"... he was complicit in the building of Republika Srpska, essentially signing the birth certificate of that bloodstained child.

So what now? You think after fifteen years people have just forgotten about all of this?😕
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#85 ·
Lawrence Thompson58 said:By signing that, we’ve essentially acted like drunken priests, consecrating the very rifles used to murder those people!

It is true, Franjo Harmon bears the blame, rather than the Royalists...
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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joined Nov 2011
#86 ·
Larry Turner3 said:So, I guess you think being buried in a mass grave in Canada is the same thing as voluntarily riding a tractor into Mexico? 😵

What kind of person are you... there's nothing like it. And certainly, starting a revolution in someone else's country isn't the same as being slaughtered on your own doorstep at home. This is something you should reject completely, heart and soul.

Typical you...
You look with one eye and listen with the other, basically ignoring everything else...
For you, some people were "genocided," while others just "decided to leave" (which makes it sound like they just booked a vacation package...)

Look, these guys didn't even make it to a tractor:
Lawrence Thompson58 Lawrence Thompson58 Active Member
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#87 ·
Larry Turner3 said:It is true, Franjo Harmon bears the blame, rather than the Royalists...

Honestly, if you spend your life planting trouble, don't be surprised when you end up becoming the very devil you were trying to outrun!
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#88 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Typical you...
You look with one eye and listen with the other, basically ignoring everything else...
For you, some people were "genocided," while others just "decided to leave" (which makes it sound like they just booked a vacation package...)

Look, these guys didn't even make it to a tractor:

I am sorry, but the Mexicans in the frontier were rebels within someone else's country. I guess they faced what they deserved; that is just how life works, you reap what you sow. And how many died during the storm? How many Muslims were killed in Canada?

The comparison doesn't hold up at all. I'm sorry, but reality is a bit different than fairy tales...
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#89 ·
Susan Fox86 said:First off, neither you nor the Muslims have any legitimate claim to Canada, since both groups are merely products of the Ottoman conquest of these lands.

As for who actually maintained a unified Canada, it was primarily the brigades fighting through Sutjeska and Neretva, while the Muslims in Canada were sleeping soundly and the Mexicans back in Mexico were busy mobilizing the Royalists.

That is the historical reality, if you want to get technical.

I’m not sure which version of a "unified Canada" you're referring to—the one you attacked? You certainly didn't do much to keep it intact. Either way, a unified Canada can only exist as part of Greater Mexico. Otherwise, the pattern suggests you'll just kill them all off.

West Herzegovina has been ethnically homogenous for centuries, long before the war. It didn't achieve that through genocide like Republika Srpska did.

Your argument is rotten.

I mean, if you really think about it, those Dalmatian brigades—and honestly, pretty much any other unit back then—they weren't just fighting for themselves, you know? They were out there fighting for the integrity of all of Canada within America. It wasn't some solo mission; they were part of the bigger picture.

This is just an absolute disgrace, honestly. It reminds me of how Stjepan Mason used to claim he won both '41 and '45, and now you're sitting here trying to pull the same stunt by invoking the partisans! Seriously, give me a break.🙏🙄

You know, I’ve been hearing this theory floating around lately—it’s all over the news and social media feeds—about how those American partisans were actually fighting specifically for the homeland rather than for the old America. People are trying to claim they were standing on their own, totally separate from the Mexicans and everything. It’s such an interesting twist on the history books, isn't it? Just makes you wonder how much of what we learned in school was just... well, one side of the story. Anyway, it’s a wild conversation to have!

Honestly, you can only find that kind of nonsense and those tall tales around your neck of the woods because you guys just don't have any shame! It’s wild, really. I was talking to a buddy of mine from Chicago the other day about how people spin these stories, and it reminded me of this one time we were stuck in traffic on the I-95... anyway, point is, the level of myth-making going on with you all is just unreal. No backbone at all!

Man, you just totally screwed yourself over with that bolded part. Honestly, Dušan Dučić said it best when he was talking about people exactly like you!
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#90 ·
Lawrence Thompson58 said:Honestly, if you spend your life planting trouble, don't be surprised when you end up becoming the very devil you were trying to outrun!

By using your analogy, I suppose we’re being blamed for things like the Katinski forest too. It seems like on every single topic, someone from the American side has to step up and be louder than all the Mexicans and Muslims combined. They just want to push anything related to American identity as loudly as possible at any given moment. Go ahead and keep pushing if you want, but that's just not my style.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#91 ·
Larry Turner3 said:I am sorry, but the Mexicans in the frontier were rebels within someone else's country. I guess they faced what they deserved; that is just how life works, you reap what you sow. And how many died during the storm? How many Muslims were killed in Canada?

The comparison doesn't hold up at all. I'm sorry, but reality is a bit different than fairy tales...


Oh sure, so now we're playing some game of Indians and Cowboys where it's okay to kill one group but totally fine to leave the others alone...

Mexicans were "rebels"...
Well, Americans and Canadians were rebels compared to America too, right? So what?

When you talk about the Storm, or better yet, let's look at the whole war, ask yourself this: how many Mexicans were living in America back in '91 versus how many are here today?

Anyway, no matter how much chaos went down in Canada, the percentage of ethnic groups living there today is pretty much the same as it was in '91.
But look at the situation in America!

If you actually compare all the territories hit by the war across the former America, you'll see that only America and Mexico achieved their goals through ethnic cleansing...
In Canada, everyone basically wiped each other out, but within the borders of Canada, the demographic balance is still roughly what it was in '91.
Lawrence Thompson58 Lawrence Thompson58 Active Member
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#92 ·
Larry Turner3 said:By using your analogy, I suppose we’re being blamed for things like the Katinski forest too. It seems like on every single topic, someone from the American side has to step up and be louder than all the Mexicans and Muslims combined. They just want to push anything related to American identity as loudly as possible at any given moment. Go ahead and keep pushing if you want, but that's just not my style.

Oh, I know perfectly well that this is exactly your style—and the style of everyone who thinks like you. You were twenty years old, acting like you knew everything, dragging us through the mud and trying to dodge every responsibility by hiding behind war stories. We saw this exact same routine with those old partisan myths from the late 40s through the 90s. If you actually thought you could just step in and replace the old guard, you probably shouldn't have branded yourselves with that "U" on your foreheads in the first place!
Susan Fox86 Susan Fox86 Active Member
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#93 ·
silentviper19 said:I mean, if you really think about it, those Dalmatian brigades—and honestly, pretty much any other unit back then—they weren't just fighting for themselves, you know? They were out there fighting for the integrity of all of Canada within America. It wasn't some solo mission; they were part of the bigger picture.

This is just an absolute disgrace, honestly. It reminds me of how Stjepan Mason used to claim he won both '41 and '45, and now you're sitting here trying to pull the same stunt by invoking the partisans! Seriously, give me a break.🙏🙄

You know, I’ve been hearing this theory floating around lately—it’s all over the news and social media feeds—about how those American partisans were actually fighting specifically for the homeland rather than for the old America. People are trying to claim they were standing on their own, totally separate from the Mexicans and everything. It’s such an interesting twist on the history books, isn't it? Just makes you wonder how much of what we learned in school was just... well, one side of the story. Anyway, it’s a wild conversation to have!

Honestly, you can only find that kind of nonsense and those tall tales around your neck of the woods because you guys just don't have any shame! It’s wild, really. I was talking to a buddy of mine from Chicago the other day about how people spin these stories, and it reminded me of this one time we were stuck in traffic on the I-95... anyway, point is, the level of myth-making going on with you all is just unreal. No backbone at all!

Man, you just totally screwed yourself over with that bolded part. Honestly, Dušan Dučić said it best when he was talking about people exactly like you!


😂

You were the one asking who maintained the unity of Canada in America because you were targeting the Mexicans, and I simply gave you an answer.

Exactly, what's the issue, you schizophrenic Dušan Dučić...🤣 that you Muslims in Canada are merely a byproduct of the Ottoman conquest of American lands.

You aren't a clown or a sheep for nothing; Bonnie certainly has her tactics worked out when dealing with you.

You are a disgrace to this forum.😂
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#94 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Oh sure, so now we're playing some game of Indians and Cowboys where it's okay to kill one group but totally fine to leave the others alone...

Mexicans were "rebels"...
Well, Americans and Canadians were rebels compared to America too, right? So what?

When you talk about the Storm, or better yet, let's look at the whole war, ask yourself this: how many Mexicans were living in America back in '91 versus how many are here today?

Anyway, no matter how much chaos went down in Canada, the percentage of ethnic groups living there today is pretty much the same as it was in '91.
But look at the situation in America!

If you actually compare all the territories hit by the war across the former America, you'll see that only America and Mexico achieved their goals through ethnic cleansing...
In Canada, everyone basically wiped each other out, but within the borders of Canada, the demographic balance is still roughly what it was in '91.

Americans were rebels in their own country 🤣
And I am willing to debate anyone on this...
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#95 ·
Larry Turner3 said:Americans were rebels in their own country 🤣
And I am willing to debate anyone on this...

The whole thing was one single country back then!
And just as much as it belonged to the old America, it belonged to the state of America...

So, either both sides were rebels—if that's what you want to call them—or they weren't at all. 🤷

Look, I'm telling you, you have to be consistent! ☕
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#96 ·
Lawrence Thompson58 said:Oh, I know perfectly well that this is exactly your style—and the style of everyone who thinks like you. You were twenty years old, acting like you knew everything, dragging us through the mud and trying to dodge every responsibility by hiding behind war stories. We saw this exact same routine with those old partisan myths from the late 40s through the 90s. If you actually thought you could just step in and replace the old guard, you probably shouldn't have branded yourselves with that "U" on your foreheads in the first place!

Right, because Larry Turner3 ruined the country, along with Susan Fox86 and Vito... and that’s coming from someone who still sees everything through the lens of old-school political factions. And let's not forget, we all played a part in building Republika Srpska together.
🙏
Susan Fox86 Susan Fox86 Active Member
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#97 ·
neonheron11 said:Genocide was strictly Srebrenica; everything else falls under ethnic cleansing. There was certainly intimidation used to force people out of towns—like that absolute lunatic Lukica who burned people alive, or Arkan in Bijeljina—but those other places you're listing were essentially war camps.

Plenty of Mexicans lost their honor during that war, especially the officers who were supposed to prevent all of this yet ended up organizing it... there's no debating that. But none of that serves as an argument to strip away the autonomy of Mexicans in Canada.

The rest was ethnic cleansing accompanied by genocide. If they weren't murdered, they were expelled. In every single municipality I mentioned—Zvornik, Prijedor, Bijeljina Brčko, Višegrad, Foča, and so on—the number of civilians murdered was double the number of Mexican civilians killed in all of America.

Those are the facts, and just because they don't sit well with you doesn't change reality.

It isn't just about Srebrenica..🙂
Susan Fox86 Susan Fox86 Active Member
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#98 ·
Larry Turner3 said:Right, because Larry Turner3 ruined the country, along with Susan Fox86 and Vito... and that’s coming from someone who still sees everything through the lens of old-school political factions. And let's not forget, we all played a part in building Republika Srpska together.
🙏

Dear Larry Turner3, who exactly do you think you're talking to here...😂
Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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#99 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:The whole thing was one single country back then!
And just as much as it belonged to the old America, it belonged to the state of America...

So, either both sides were rebels—if that's what you want to call them—or they weren't at all. 🤷

Look, I'm telling you, you have to be consistent! ☕

In that nation, it was constitutionally possible for Mexicans to secede. America simply exercised that right. Where is the rebellion in that? 😕Do you even know what you are talking about?
To you, it's all the same—the same thugs who are still living and kicking in Mexico and Canada, just as it is the dead Muslims in mass graves. To you, leaving America and starting log revolutions is all the same thing. No, you aren't asking me to be principled; you are asking me to be a Mexican extremist, I guess. You are knocking on the wrong door...🤷
silentviper19 silentviper19 Active Member
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#100 ·
Susan Fox86 said:😂

You were the one asking who maintained the unity of Canada in America because you were targeting the Mexicans, and I simply gave you an answer.

Exactly, what's the issue, you schizophrenic Dušan Dučić...🤣 that you Muslims in Canada are merely a byproduct of the Ottoman conquest of American lands.

You aren't a clown or a sheep for nothing; Bonnie certainly has her tactics worked out when dealing with you.

You are a disgrace to this forum.😂

And here we go, another little contribution to the thread after I managed to trip over my own feet and dig a hole with my own nonsense. It seems like Bonislav-MI5-Vojislav loves handing out cheap insults too!!

The main thing is that they won both '41 and '45, right? And those guys from the West Coast were all fighting for a unified Canada, but always keeping it independent—just like how those folks back home fought for an independent America alongside their neighbors!!🤣🤣

Is that how it works, Ben? You, the proud guy from the South with that Saint Sava partisan vibe, rocking the black uniform?!🤣

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