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Can you get Shockwave from a kiss?

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northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#21 ·
Angela Wright said:I think you're overreacting. Besides, with "love bites," you aren't actually ingesting blood; you’re just getting bruises on the skin.

If I were a parent watching my daughter head out into the real world, I’d be much more concerned about Hepatitis B and C. Those viruses are far more aggressive than HIV because, unlike HIV, which is incredibly fragile when exposed to the air, Hep can survive outside the body much longer, making it significantly easier to catch. I would absolutely make sure my kid was vaccinated against Hep B. Unfortunately, there’s no vaccine for Hep C.
On top of hepatitis, you’ve got mononucleosis, often called the "kissing disease." A lot of people who catch it deal with permanent immune system struggles, not to mention the lifelong dietary restrictions needed to protect a liver being taxed by the virus. That goes for the hepatitis viruses too.

So, folks, don't let yourselves lose sight of the forest for the trees. 😳

Now, regarding that whole blood thing—that's definitely worth a conversation. Back when I was a teenager, maybe 16 or 17, I gave my ex girlfriend such a hard bite that I actually had to spit blood in the bathroom. Since I didn't fully grasp how HIV was transmitted back then, I ended up going to some classes to figure it all out... so yeah, if a bite is intense enough, you really can transfer blood. It all depends on how rough things get.😉😉
Steven Jackson13 Steven Jackson13 MemberOP
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#22 ·
"So, folks—don't let yourselves get so caught up in the details that you lose sight of the big picture." 😳

😂You’re spot on there. I am definitely on your side regarding that point...
I just struggle to wrap my head around it as a theoretical possibility—I mean, there isn't a single documented case involving a kiss, other than that one outlier that surfaced out of nowhere—haha, though I suppose I might have overcomplicated things.
By the way, we're talking about a son here, not a daughter... 🙂
northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#23 ·
Steven Jackson13 said:"So, folks—don't let yourselves get so caught up in the details that you lose sight of the big picture." 😳


😂You’re spot on there. I am definitely on your side regarding that point...
I just struggle to wrap my head around it as a theoretical possibility—I mean, there isn't a single documented case involving a kiss, other than that one outlier that surfaced out of nowhere—haha, though I suppose I might have overcomplicated things.
By the way, we're talking about a son here, not a daughter... 🙂

😂You’re spot on there. I am definitely on your side regarding that point...
I just struggle to wrap my head around it as a theoretical possibility—I mean, there isn't a single documented case involving a kiss, other than that one outlier that surfaced out of nowhere—haha, though I suppose I might have overcomplicated things.
By the way, we're talking about a son here, not a daughter... 🙂
😂You’re spot on. Honestly, I am totally on the same page as you regarding that...
I mean, I totally get it as a theoretical possibility—on paper, sure—but honestly? There isn't a single documented case where someone caught it just from a kiss, aside from that one weird outlier that surfaced out of nowhere. Hahaha, gosh, I really went and made that way more complicated than it needed to be!
Just to clear things up—and I don't want anyone getting confused here—we’re actually talking about a son, not a daughter!🙂

Look, let's be real for a second—trying to pinpoint exactly how someone contracted HIV is an absolute nightmare. It’s incredibly difficult to prove the specific moment of transmission. Most people who test positive have had sexual encounters, sure, but it isn't always that black and white. You could have had a kiss that carried the virus, and by the time you actually realized what was happening, you'd already engaged in sexual activity. Then, once that positive diagnosis finally hits you like a ton of bricks, everyone just jumps to the easiest conclusion and assumes it was sex. It’s a massive assumption, and honestly, it's way more complicated than people want to admit.🙂
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#24 ·
northernpanther12 said:Now, regarding that whole blood thing—that's definitely worth a conversation. Back when I was a teenager, maybe 16 or 17, I gave my ex girlfriend such a hard bite that I actually had to spit blood in the bathroom. Since I didn't fully grasp how HIV was transmitted back then, I ended up going to some classes to figure it all out... so yeah, if a bite is intense enough, you really can transfer blood. It all depends on how rough things get.😉😉

You’re clearly an extreme zealot.🤣
So, have you actually tested positive for HIV?
northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#25 ·
Angela Wright said:You’re clearly an extreme zealot.🤣
So, have you actually tested positive for HIV?

Look, I haven't actually gone out and gotten tested for HIV—mostly because I was the first one to go all the way with that girl, you know? But honestly, if I had picked up anything, I’m pretty sure I would have felt the symptoms by now... it's been a good amount of years since then.
Steven Jackson13 Steven Jackson13 MemberOP
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#26 ·
northernpanther12 said:Look, I haven't actually gone out and gotten tested for HIV—mostly because I was the first one to go all the way with that girl, you know? But honestly, if I had picked up anything, I’m pretty sure I would have felt the symptoms by now... it's been a good amount of years since then.

So, what you're implying is that you haven't shared a single kiss with anyone since that night, and therefore there was zero chance of catching HIV in the interim?...😂
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#27 ·
northernpanther12 said:Look, I haven't actually gone out and gotten tested for HIV—mostly because I was the first one to go all the way with that girl, you know? But honestly, if I had picked up anything, I’m pretty sure I would have felt the symptoms by now... it's been a good amount of years since then.

Oh, so you were her "first" who bit her? Is that what she told you? 😉

Why don't you tell us if you're still out there drinking girls' blood?😁
northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#28 ·
lol I’m talking about that ex of mine—I'm basically admitting that after everything went down, I didn't even go get tested
Lisa Doyle Lisa Doyle Member
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joined May 2008
#29 ·
More people have died from being assaulted by an owl with late-stage syphilis than from kissing someone with HIV....don't worry about your daughter😉
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#30 ·
northernpanther12 said:lol I’m talking about that ex of mine—I'm basically admitting that after everything went down, I didn't even go get tested

Look, I get where you're coming from, but you clearly missed my point entirely 🤣

Have fun 🙂
Lisa Doyle said:More people have died from being assaulted by an owl with late-stage syphilis than from kissing someone with HIV....don't worry about your daughter😉

hehe...I'll just go injure myself then🤣....where exactly did you dig up this owl?🤣
Lisa Doyle Lisa Doyle Member
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#31 ·
Angela Wright said:Look, I get where you're coming from, but you clearly missed my point entirely 🤣

Have fun 🙂

hehe...I'll just go injure myself then🤣....where exactly did you dig up this owl?🤣

Look, I know an owl is weird...but a drunk owl with syphilis isn't🙂. You see stuff like that every single day!🙂
northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#32 ·
Lisa Doyle said:Look, I know an owl is weird...but a drunk owl with syphilis isn't🙂. You see stuff like that every single day!🙂

Since we're already talking about drunken owls with syphilis—which, wow, quite the image—I actually have a story about something similar from a few years back...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Douglas Green31 Douglas Green31 Member
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#33 ·
northernpanther12 said:lol, yeah, that’s exactly what I was getting at—the chance of even bumping into someone in that situation is low, and then the actual ways to catch it drop that percentage even further. But look, you see tons of teenagers doing those gross "love bites" on necks, right? Now imagine if that person happens to be CDC positive... and you've got a cut or a sore in your own mouth (and I don't just mean a bitten lip)...

Give me a break, people!
Even unprotected sex with an HIV-positive person isn't a 100% guarantee of infection, let alone these "one in a hundred million" scenarios.
Steven Jackson13 Steven Jackson13 MemberOP
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#34 ·
Douglas Green31;24478573 said:Come on, people!
Even unprotected sex with someone who is HIV positive doesn't guarantee a 100% infection rate—let alone these "one in a hundred million" scenarios.

Are you kidding me?
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#35 ·
Steven Jackson13;24481122 said:
Douglas Green31 said:Give me a break, people!
Even unprotected sex with an HIV-positive person isn't a 100% guarantee of infection, let alone these "one in a hundred million" scenarios.

dead serious
Steven Jackson13 Steven Jackson13 MemberOP
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#36 ·
northernpanther12 said:Man, if only we’d known that sooner! Lol. It seriously doesn't say anywhere that you could actually catch the CDC through a kiss—assuming both people have some dental issues or open sores in their mouths, that is.😵

So, I actually put in some actual legwork here and dug through the data—and look, I found this one specific instance from 1997 where an HIV transmission was recorded via kissing. But—and this is a big "but"—it involved a couple where both partners had significant gum disease. They had been together for a long time and practiced safe sex, so you can't exactly rule out a faulty condom or perhaps some oral contact... which means that whole narrative doesn't entirely hold water if you think about it. Regardless, that remains the one single documented case. Anyway, if anyone has anything to add—especially those of you with medical expertise or a professional background—please do! Cheers.
northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#37 ·
Steven Jackson13 said:So, I actually put in some actual legwork here and dug through the data—and look, I found this one specific instance from 1997 where an HIV transmission was recorded via kissing. But—and this is a big "but"—it involved a couple where both partners had significant gum disease. They had been together for a long time and practiced safe sex, so you can't exactly rule out a faulty condom or perhaps some oral contact... which means that whole narrative doesn't entirely hold water if you think about it. Regardless, that remains the one single documented case. Anyway, if anyone has anything to add—especially those of you with medical expertise or a professional background—please do! Cheers.

That's exactly my point, though—I'm talking about people who have been in long-term relationships while living with HIV. Sure, maybe they caught it from a kiss early on, but after being together for ages, they test positive and suddenly everyone starts questioning if it happened through sexual contact. That's what I'm getting at here. Why would they have picked it up through sex? Who actually confirmed that part anyway?🙏
Morgan Torres Morgan Torres Member
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#38 ·
To put it simply—if you're kissing someone, there's a chance you'll end up being intimate with them too. Not everyone is going to run to the doctor for testing beforehand. A partner might not even realize they're carrying anything, and that’s how unprotected encounters happen.
And honestly, when you're kissing someone, you aren't exactly looking for someone with teeth so decayed it hurts, right?
northernpanther12 northernpanther12 Member
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#39 ·
Morgan Torres said:To put it simply—if you're kissing someone, there's a chance you'll end up being intimate with them too. Not everyone is going to run to the doctor for testing beforehand. A partner might not even realize they're carrying anything, and that’s how unprotected encounters happen.
And honestly, when you're kissing someone, you aren't exactly looking for someone with teeth so decayed it hurts, right?

Think about it this way: you're out on the town, maybe you've had a couple of drinks, and some guy starts hitting on you. You get a little tipsy, things move fast, and suddenly you're saying goodbye after a night together... what are you actually going to ask him? "Hey, can I see your dental records first?" lol
Steven Jackson13 Steven Jackson13 MemberOP
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#40 ·
Oh, please—you’re completely missing my point here... what I’m saying is that while there is some suspicion regarding transmission via kissing, we have to consider the context. They were also sexually active—though they used protection, mind you—so we can't simply rule out the possibility that the transmission happened through intercourse instead of a kiss. In other words, that one single instance everyone is pointing to is highly questionable... do you follow me? Medical experts have stated that there hasn't been a single documented case of this happening, you know? You really might want to watch out for that unlucky owl...😂

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