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Biologics: Enbrel, Remicade, Humira, Actemra...

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mistyranger51 mistyranger51 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2009
#1 ·
Is anyone here actually using this medication? What’s the experience been like for you guys—any weird side effects I should watch out for? Also, what condition are you taking it for, how do you actually administer it, and what kind of damage does it do to the wallet?
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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joined Jun 2005
#2 ·
Honestly, Google clearly isn't your best friend here, because if you just type the name of the medication into the search bar, you’ll get nearly a million results... you can even find the official drug website itself. Maybe try doing a little digging before starting a new thread? It would be super helpful if you could google it first and then give us a more detailed breakdown in your opening post about what specific issues you're having with the meds...
mistyranger51 mistyranger51 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Scott Allen10 said:Honestly, Google clearly isn't your best friend here, because if you just type the name of the medication into the search bar, you’ll get nearly a million results... you can even find the official drug website itself. Maybe try doing a little digging before starting a new thread? It would be super helpful if you could google it first and then give us a more detailed breakdown in your opening post about what specific issues you're having with the meds...

No need to get all defensive right away. I was just asking nicely because I really wanted to hear from people who have actually used it—not here in the States, but back home. If you think the topic is stupid, feel free to just delete it.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#4 ·
I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything, I was just thinking it might help if you fleshed out that opening post a bit more so we're all on the same page.
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#5 ·
If you could write about why you take your medication, what your experience has been like, or any concerns you have regarding its use...
mistyranger51 mistyranger51 MemberOP
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#6 ·
Sam Hall15 said:If you could write about why you take your medication, what your experience has been like, or any concerns you have regarding its use...

I haven't started on it yet, so I'm totally in the dark.
wanderinglynx24 wanderinglynx24 Newcomer
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#7 ·
My kid has been on this for about a year and a half to manage juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, and honestly, it’s been a game changer.
Since starting this treatment, she hasn't even needed to touch corticosteroids anymore.
mistyranger51 mistyranger51 MemberOP
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#8 ·
wanderinglynx24 said:My kid has been on this for about a year and a half to manage juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, and honestly, it’s been a game changer.
Since starting this treatment, she hasn't even needed to touch corticosteroids anymore.

Thanks for chiming in. I have RA myself—not juvenile, just regular adult onset—and I'm 35. Right now, I'm stuck on Methotrexate. I've heard about this therapy, but I just can't seem to get access to it. It feels like whenever you ask, they tell you "it's not for you yet" or that it's reserved for later on. But what does "later" actually mean? I'm at my limit with this daily pain. I've actually been out on disability for two weeks now and haven't felt any better. Today, I can barely even stand up without it hurting. My left elbow is acting up too. Either my joints lock up or the pain is just driving me crazy.
How is it administered? How did you guys manage to get the meds? Is it covered by Medicare or do you have to pay out of pocket? And how often do you take it? Thanks for any info
wanderinglynx24 wanderinglynx24 Newcomer
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#9 ·
The medication is pretty pricey and only recently made it onto the approved list (you can check the details on the Medicare website).
Approval usually depends on which hospital district you live in—for instance, if you’re based in Indianapolis, your local hospital is the one responsible for covering it. Since this stuff is incredibly expensive and hospital budgets are tight,
getting access is actually a bit of an uphill battle. They generally require you to exhaust every other treatment option first; only when those fail can you even start the conversation about this specific drug. In my case, since I'm dealing with diet-related issues, it was a slightly smoother process, but honestly, it doesn't change much after spending three years cycling through corticosteroids and Methotrexate. Corticosteroids definitely do the heavy lifting, but you aren't supposed to stay on them for very long.
At the end of the day, you have to trust your doctors; they know the clinical landscape better than anyone. There is definitely reason to be optimistic, though, because before this drug came along, managing this condition was a nightmare. Of course, it isn't a silver bullet—there are side effects starting to surface, likely because it's relatively new. When you consider that we're talking about biologics (genetic-based drugs), the uncertainty can be a little intimidating. These are often called "smart drugs," and there is a massive amount of hope riding on them.
I hope this gives you at least a little bit of clarity. You’re going to need a lot of patience dealing with this. Fingers crossed for you.
Best.

Best.
mistyranger51 mistyranger51 MemberOP
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#10 ·
wanderinglynx24 said:The medication is pretty pricey and only recently made it onto the approved list (you can check the details on the Medicare website).
Approval usually depends on which hospital district you live in—for instance, if you’re based in Indianapolis, your local hospital is the one responsible for covering it. Since this stuff is incredibly expensive and hospital budgets are tight,
getting access is actually a bit of an uphill battle. They generally require you to exhaust every other treatment option first; only when those fail can you even start the conversation about this specific drug. In my case, since I'm dealing with diet-related issues, it was a slightly smoother process, but honestly, it doesn't change much after spending three years cycling through corticosteroids and Methotrexate. Corticosteroids definitely do the heavy lifting, but you aren't supposed to stay on them for very long.
At the end of the day, you have to trust your doctors; they know the clinical landscape better than anyone. There is definitely reason to be optimistic, though, because before this drug came along, managing this condition was a nightmare. Of course, it isn't a silver bullet—there are side effects starting to surface, likely because it's relatively new. When you consider that we're talking about biologics (genetic-based drugs), the uncertainty can be a little intimidating. These are often called "smart drugs," and there is a massive amount of hope riding on them.
I hope this gives you at least a little bit of clarity. You’re going to need a lot of patience dealing with this. Fingers crossed for you.
Best.

Best.

Thanks, seriously!
What I really want to know is... what are the side effects for Enbrel?
Everyone talks about the good stuff, but nobody seems to mention the downsides.
How did things end up turning out with Methotrexate for your child? From your experience, what were the worst parts?
All I know is that it hits the liver, so I'm getting bloodwork done every two months.
And since it affects fertility, I have to be on birth control. Is there anything else I should be watching out for?

Thanks again, take care.
Arthur Smith56 Arthur Smith56 Member
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#11 ·
Hey everyone...
I'm curious—has anyone here actually tried those biologic drugs? Specifically for arthritis or maybe something else entirely? I want to know if they actually work in your experience. Are they really the miracle cure people claim, or is it all just hype?
Scott Bennett4 Scott Bennett4 Member
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#12 ·
I was hoping someone from the medical community here, or perhaps those currently on biologics, could weigh in on a specific question regarding gonarthrosis. When dealing with knee osteoarthritis—or more broadly, OA affecting almost all joints—do these biologic drugs act locally to soothe inflammation and pain in a specific spot (like just the knee), or is their impact systemic, affecting the entire body?
Thanks.
Scott Bennett4 Scott Bennett4 Member
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#13 ·
I’ll go ahead and drop this question here as well... it's part of a more recent discussion.
If any doctors in this group could weigh in—or perhaps those currently managing their condition with biologics—could you clarify how these treatments interact with gonarthrosis in the knee and general osteoarthritis across other joints? Specifically, do they work to dampen inflammation and alleviate pain locally (for instance, targeting just the knee), or is the effect systemic, impacting the entire body?
Thanks.
Arthur Smith56 Arthur Smith56 Member
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#14 ·
Scott Bennett4 said:I’ll go ahead and drop this question here as well... it's part of a more recent discussion.
If any doctors in this group could weigh in—or perhaps those currently managing their condition with biologics—could you clarify how these treatments interact with gonarthrosis in the knee and general osteoarthritis across other joints? Specifically, do they work to dampen inflammation and alleviate pain locally (for instance, targeting just the knee), or is the effect systemic, impacting the entire body?
Thanks.


My daughter is already on her third biologic in a row—she's using Actemra. She has JIA. It definitely works to calm the inflammation. And yeah, it likely affects the whole system. We failed with the first two biologics, but thank God she's doing better now. I just don't know how long she can stay on it since it really tanks her white blood cell count.

Is anyone else here still using Actemra?
Scott Bennett4 Scott Bennett4 Member
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#15 ·
Thanks for getting back to me.🙂
However, there is a fundamental distinction here: your child is dealing with JIA, whereas I am battling osteoarthritis. It seems to be quite effective at managing inflammation in her case—likely because it exerts an influence over the entire system—which is precisely why I was inquiring if anyone could weigh in on whether these medications offer any relief for advanced osteoarthritis. In my situation, nearly every single joint is compromised.

Does she receive those treatments at the hospital, or are you administering the injections yourselves at home?
Arthur Smith56 Arthur Smith56 Member
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#16 ·
It’s been four years now... dealing with this miserable, draining disease. 😢

Enbrel comes in injections, while Remicade and Actemra require an infusion... You have to get them at the hospital because you need someone on hand in case of adverse reactions. And look, you have to be perfectly healthy before they even consider administering them. These drugs are insanely expensive, too—they're handled through the hospital, and some insurance board or medical commission has to sign off on everything first.
Scott Bennett4 Scott Bennett4 Member
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#17 ·
I am well aware that these medications come with an astronomical price tag. My inquiry stems from some research I’ve been doing regarding various administration protocols, which is why I’m asking.
Does the hospital board or the insurance commission approve coverage based on a specialist's recommendation—say, a physical therapist or someone similar—or is there a different bureaucratic process at play?
Forgive my persistence; it just seems as though you're the only one here with any actual clarity on the matter.
Arthur Smith56 Arthur Smith56 Member
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#18 ·
Scott Bennett4 said:I am well aware that these medications come with an astronomical price tag. My inquiry stems from some research I’ve been doing regarding various administration protocols, which is why I’m asking.
Does the hospital board or the insurance commission approve coverage based on a specialist's recommendation—say, a physical therapist or someone similar—or is there a different bureaucratic process at play?
Forgive my persistence; it just seems as though you're the only one here with any actual clarity on the matter.


You aren't being annoying. We're all here to help.

In our case, it went through her rheumatologist's recommendation. Then they pull the labs and everything goes before a board—I think at the hospital—and then you just wait for approval. So far, we haven't had any issues getting the medication approved, but I know plenty of people who have been denied. I suppose it all comes down to the severity and the stage of the disease.
Scott Bennett4 Scott Bennett4 Member
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#19 ·
It’s certainly helpful to have a clear understanding of how this whole process works.
I intend to bring these points up during my next consultation with my doctors.
Thanks for the insight.🙂 And I'm rooting for the little one.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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#20 ·
Usually, biologics get approved for kids and teenagers first, or maybe for patients who just aren't seeing any results from other treatments once the disease really starts flaring up. At least, that’s how I heard it worked. 🙂

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