The Mark of the Beast / Preamble: Just more everyday nonsense

Basta said:Some random idiots torched the scaffolding set up in San Diego for a movie shoot and trashed some historic monuments while they were at it. 😵 👎

Yeah, great idea—let's just burn down historical landmarks because we don't like the movie's theme. Brilliant move.

Once again, explaining this to the morons 👏 👎

Basta said:Newsflash: filmmakers aren't going to be shooting in America after those unfortunate events.

which just proves we are a bunch of idiots.

In San Diego, there isn't any work available anyway. We could have had at least a hundred people making a decent buck from background acting and extra gigs...

Sigh, what fools...

Larry Cruz51 said:San Diego doesn't even have any local crews available anyway. At least a hundred people could have made a quick buck working as extras.

It isn't just about the extras—that burned-out set was built by our top-tier production designer, Mario Ivezić, and his entire crew. Now their hard work is trashed, they're out the money, and judging by how this went, the next big co-production will probably head straight to Armageddon. The Catholic Church is an institution for idiots—and its American branch? A total collection of morons.

Hypocritical bastards... I consider myself a Christian and all that, but every single priest is a fraud, damn them all to hell 👎

northerncrane4 said:It isn’t just about the property damage. This entire set was designed by our top-tier production designer, Mario Ivezić, along with his dedicated crew. Now, all their hard work is completely gone, and they’ve been robbed blind...

And I’ll bet my life the police won't even catch those lowlife idiots responsible for this mess.

What a damn shame...

I still remember back when they were filming "welcome to Ottawa" over in Trogir—well, let's call it San Diego—back during the war years. They filmed that scene at the hotel involving the Miss pageant. It was actually pretty cool. You had all these big celebrities walking through town, spending money, giving America some decent publicity... and things like that...

But this...👎 it’s like we’re nothing more than some backwater hillbillies.

I'd much rather spend my weekend mowing the lawn than selling my soul to Satan! 😬

The US: basically the moral compass of the world—or lack thereof, depending on who you ask.

Larry Cruz51 said:I’d bet anything the cops won't even bother catching those idiots who pulled this off.

Why would they even look for them? These guys are basically guardian angels—they’ve practically guaranteed themselves a spot in paradise with a stunt like this. Honestly, they could go out and commit any crime imaginable now and nobody would touch them. There's zero incentive for the police to step in.

Who's to blame... for heading out to the Midwest to shoot a movie

It’s going to be a flop anyway 🤮

I’m completely on board with the filming ban, especially if the location is still being used by the church.

And seriously, the second someone mentions Hollywood, people act like it’s some untouchable deity... like you have to sacrifice everything just to please Hollywood.

As if anyone else in the world would even know they were filming there.

I’ve said this before in another thread, but apparently, for most "urbanites," the only true benchmark of culture is Hollywood...
while they don't give a damn about their own heritage.
It only matters if both Hollywood and America take an interest in it.

They’d sell out their own grandmother if she landed a role in a Hollywood movie.
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But hey, congrats!

shadowgardener12 said:while their own culture isn't really given much respect at all.

Yeah, if you look at how this whole mess wrapped up, it’s pretty clear just how much Americans actually value their own heritage.

It feels like people would honestly rather see it all go up in flames than let it fall into the hands of an enemy.
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They secured every single permit required—from the local museums to City Hall... plus, the site is an open-air archaeological dig and museum, not some church courtyard she’s actually using.

shadowgardener12 said:I completely agree with the ban on filming—if the property is still being used by the Church, it shouldn't be happening.

So, whenever anyone mentions Los Angeles—it’s treated like some sacred concept above all others. Apparently, we’re just supposed to hand over everything for the sake of Hollywood? Please.

As if anyone else in the world would even realize this was being filmed.

I’ve already brought this up in another thread—it seems like most "urbanites" use Hollywood as their sole yardstick for culture.
Not when people don't even bother to value their own culture.
It only matters if both Hollywood and the rest of America actually give a damn about it.

They’d sell their own grandmother if she landed a role in a Hollywood movie.
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Well, congratulations then!

You are. Absolute idiot. I don't see any need to argue—not that I'm looking for one.

Timothy Murphy7 said:They pulled all the right permits—from the local museums to city hall... It’s an archaeological site, basically an open-air museum. It isn't sitting in a Church courtyard, and she isn't even using the grounds.

If the location holds any kind of sacred value, you show some basic respect and tolerance toward that.

I mean... Hollywood... just pure trash.

I mean, unbelievable.

I’m not exactly shocked by most of the comments here—not that I expected much—but it’s funny. All these people who were busy attacking the Church back when they stood against that ridiculous music festival in San Francisco are now showing the exact same level of intolerance and stupidity toward the Church, which, thank God, actually cares about preserving sacred sites.

Clearly, being an idiot has nothing to do with religion or ideology...

Just say Hollywood... and they start barking immediately.

shadowgardener12 said:If we're talking about a location with sacred value, then showing some basic decency and tolerance toward that is pretty much the bare minimum.

I mean, honestly... talking about Hollywood... it's just a bunch of trash on top of more trash.

But what exactly makes you think they didn't treat the site with any respect? Is it just because they touched it with those greasy little Hollywood hands of theirs?

Careful now, don't go overdoing it with all that Christian tolerance and grace.
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shadowgardener12 said:I’m completely on board with denying permission if the location is still being used by the Church.

And honestly, the second someone mentions Los Angeles, it’s treated like some untouchable deity... as if everything needs to be cleared through Hollywood first.

It’s not like anyone else in the world would have even known they were filming there.

I’ve touched on this before in another thread, but it seems most "urbanites" use Hollywood as their only metric for culture...
while showing absolutely zero respect for their own heritage.
The only thing that matters is whether Hollywood or America takes an interest in it.

People would probably sell out their own grandmothers just to see them in a Los Angeles production.
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Well, congratulations then!

They really should have phrased it differently—something like, we don't want major Los Angeles productions being filmed here, rather than making excuses about it being a movie influenced by Satan... because Omen isn't a satanic film, and at no point does Omen glorify Satan; it stands against him. One should actually watch the film before passing judgment. The Church ought to focus its energy on other issues, like the hypocrisy and predatory behavior within its own ranks.

You’re being dense, man... American films are shot all over the globe, yet for some reason you think they shouldn't be allowed here because we might be "influenced" by another culture... as if where a movie is filmed carries any weight or dictates how people will react to it.

This whole situation would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic; I’m honestly speechless. The Church actually issued a statement saying they don't want Satan's son walking their streets. They aren't even joking. It’s all in the name of 🙂)).
The worst part is there’s always some idiot who takes this stuff to heart and decides to go destroy a monument that has nothing to do with any of this. In wartime, people think anything goes 🙂))

Goddammit, those religious fanatics... just a bunch of hypocrites...

...hmmm...don't get me wrong, I’m definitely not backing the Church and its reaction to this movie being filmed... but all this insults and foul language on the forum is getting a bit much—including the attacks on people who probably aren't even part of the group I'm thinking of... because, frankly, I have zero connection to the Church itself...

...but despite some totally inappropriate reactions from certain members of the religious hierarchy—people who claim the film is "Satan's work," or at least a project glorifying Satan (and apparently, they want to make sure that same Satan doesn't just "wander onto" the set, ensuring our beautiful, holy, and 100% Satan-free American locations remain untainted)—they aren't treating it as an artistic endeavor. At the very least, it's a commercial product meant for entertainment, and that's how it should be handled—especially since I personally don't think this remake of Omen is going to be some transcendent work of art...
...comments like "screw those greedy bastards, what a bunch of church fanatics" strike me as incredibly tacky. It drags all of us—as forum users and participants in this debate—down to the same level as those specific church members who can't hold a calm conversation or use actual arguments. For instance, if their main point was truly about protecting a monument from vandalism, they should have just said that clearly and loudly... but, as someone pointed out quite pointedly, they could have also highlighted the positive sides of the project—like the potential income for locals—without any need for the "worshipping Hollywood" nonsense some people were rambling about. That's completely pointless—it's not like the American "movie factory" is some supreme authority over intelligent people who are perfectly capable of thinking about their own interests and the interests of others—which, let's be honest, exists in every structure, including the Church. Instead of defending their views with dignity, they just go public by peddling myths and scaring people with nonsense about Satan appearing on screen...
...still, as banal, ridiculous, and sad as those statements are, we shouldn't forget that this isn't an official stance of the Church. It's just a few members who clearly think they're far more important than they actually deserve to be... but also—and this is more important in my view—the people who destroyed the sets and that valuable monument certainly weren't priests. They were just people, likely young like you and me, who are undoubtedly influenced by the Church but still possess their own brains and agency (and hey, the Enlightenment thinkers were right about these things too 🙂)...

...and for everyone who thinks banning the filming this way was a good move... hmmm... here’s how I see it: if the film crew had actually come, we would have had guests willing to spend money. We would have seen people—artists or entertainers, depending on how you look at it—actually working (something some of us, myself included, probably never will). We could have shown ourselves to be good hosts, which would have encouraged more productions to visit in the future, potentially giving us the "space" to become a regular filming location. A few of our locals could have earned some cash as extras (maybe not a fortune, but something), and the monuments would have been carefully protected, since as far as I know, those things are regulated by contracts and subject to lawsuits. Instead, we have zero guests, which means zero extra revenue. We have negative publicity spreading worldwide, new tensions between the church and the citizens, and it's going to cost us tax dollars to catch the vandals (since the police are funded by the budget we all contribute to), and we're the ones left with a damaged monument...

COULD THE SITUATION HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN WORSE FOR US??? In the end, we're the ones to blame... 😢 😢 😢 😢

xavierkat said:Chasing down every single vandal is just going to drain our pockets...

They aren't actually going to catch anyone...