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Hormonal Contraception: The Pill [General Discussion]

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Larry Howard4 Larry Howard4 Member
30 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3541 ·
Why couldn't you just head down to the lab privately and settle the bill? Of course you could. I highly doubt anyone is going to sit you down and interrogate you about your motives if you just pay up like everyone else.
mellowcobra82 mellowcobra82 Member
30 messages
joined Apr 2013
#3542 ·
Angela Harris33 said:Can I just head over to an urgent care clinic, ask them to run some blood work to check if my liver is doing okay, and just pick up my pills there? Basically, can I skip seeing the specialist altogether?
PS, how do they even decide which specific pill is right for someone if they aren't actually testing hormones? I looked into hormone testing and man, it is incredibly expensive... so I have a feeling most places don't bother doing it unless it's absolutely necessary.

PPS, what else do they typically look for in a standard blood panel besides liver function?

I don't get why you'd want to dodge an OB-GYN. You can hit up a lab for blood tests all day, but a doctor still has to write the prescription for those pills! As far as I know, you can't just walk into a pharmacy in the States and grab birth control without a script.

And let's be real—your doctor isn't going to run a full hormonal panel and say, "Based on these levels, you need Yaz, Logest, or Novynette." They can't predict exactly how your body will react. They'll pick something based on your age and general health, and if it hits you wrong, you go back and swap it out.

If there's one thing you shouldn't DIY, it's medication. Playing around with hormones is dangerous business. But hey, it's your life.☕
Larry Howard4 Larry Howard4 Member
30 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3543 ·
You’re hitting the nail on the head. I’m right there with you on everything you just said. Even after my dermatologist told me birth control might be the answer, I didn't just jump into it—I went straight to my OB-GYN to get a professional opinion first. BUT, let's be real, not all doctors are cut from the same cloth. You run into some practitioners who won't even bother ordering a basic blood panel before handing you a prescription.
Angela Harris33 Angela Harris33 Member
16 messages
joined May 2007
#3544 ·
I don't want to sound dull or slow here; I’m just weighing my options... and obviously, I have no intention of taking matters into my own hands. If that were the case, I would’ve done it by now 😁 instead of trying to play "doctor" on my own.

I'm simply asking because when I crunch the numbers to see how much it would cost to cover everything, it comes out a little higher than I expected. I went to the clinic about a year ago and everything went smoothly, so if there was a way to skip this specific step, I’d only be looking at it from a financial standpoint...
But it looks like that's just making things more complicated, so I'll head back to the clinic and follow the standard procedure. 😁

One more thing—which treatments are the mildest but still actually effective against body acne? Maybe something with jasmine??
Thanks so much 🙂
Larry Howard4 Larry Howard4 Member
30 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3545 ·
So, what exactly am I supposed to be covering here? I don't quite follow.
If you go to the gynecologist and they take your insurance, there’s no out-of-pocket cost. Same goes for blood work.
I'm on Yasmin right now, mostly to deal with acne. I started out on Diane—those were my first pills—and they worked fine. Then I switched to Yasmin, and that helped too. My skin was pretty clear for a long stretch, but lately, everything just flared up again. So, I'm back on Yasmin to try and settle my skin down and get my hormones somewhat balanced, especially since I’m planning on getting pregnant. That’s really why I’m digging into all this details.
Angela Harris33 Angela Harris33 Member
16 messages
joined May 2007
#3546 ·
Another country altogether... :/ (I always handle things privately)
I've been struggling with body acne for a while now. My face usually stays pretty calm and manageable—nothing major there—but my body has always been an issue, consistently stubborn. I'm really hoping these pills finally help settle everything down.
Larry Howard4 Larry Howard4 Member
30 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3547 ·
My bad, didn't realize.

As for how those acne pills actually mess with your system, honestly, who knows. Might be better to just go see a decent dermatologist instead?
Angela Harris33 Angela Harris33 Member
16 messages
joined May 2007
#3548 ·
It was always the same old story—everyone would be spinning their wheels, obsessing over how to grease some palms just to get a quick fix, only for things to revert back to exactly how they were before...
Thomas Collins60 Thomas Collins60 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jun 2011
#3549 ·
Honestly, if you’re already feeling like you're just winging it, maybe try picking ones with lower hormone levels—see if that makes a difference for you.
Like, there are those newer ones—Yaz or Yasminelle, I can't recall the exact names right now, but someone here will know—there’s actually a whole thread about them, so maybe take a look at what other girls are saying there.
It’s not a hard rule or anything, but generally speaking, most pills work great for most people. What I mean by that is—I know a few girls who were on Celeste and weren't thrilled with it (ten), and when my doctor switched me over to those, I wasn't exactly jumping for joy either. But hey, what can you do? You try them. He knows his stuff, and in the end, they didn't work for me because my tension was just awful—and normally, I'm pretty fine. After that, I moved on to Logest, which I also know a ton of girls use with great results—it's basically the successor to Stedrin, which was a total lifesaver for so many women. It worked well for me too, so while there are no guarantees, if a pill works for 90 out of 100 people, there's a pretty solid chance you'll be part of that group.
Angela Harris33 Angela Harris33 Member
16 messages
joined May 2007
#3550 ·
I’m not going to gamble with my own health; I have zero interest in sabotaging myself.
I’m going to look for something much milder. All I know is that I’ve read way too many horror stories about Diane 35 to even consider it.
Larry Howard4 Larry Howard4 Member
30 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3551 ·
So, here’s how it goes. I was on Diane from when I was about 17 until I hit my early 20s. Honestly, I didn't deal with any major side effects or anything crazy. I only quit because I was young, heard some horror stories floating around, and just got spooked. That's why I switched over to Yasmin.
Thomas Collins60 Thomas Collins60 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jun 2011
#3552 ·
Read what I actually wrote—I didn't say you should just wing it without doing any research, I said you'd be the one getting your blood drawn
even though the question was really just about whether you know how to read blood test results
think about it: when you walk into a CVS and ask for something, the pharmacist is going to hand you whatever they think is best—so you basically just go with their choice, right?
why wouldn't you just choose for yourself? after you've done a little digging—you know, reading up, Googling, actually getting informed—there’s so much information out there that you can figure out what actually makes sense for you
now, I'm not trying to say we're all smarter than doctors or that Google is a replacement for medical expertise, but being well-informed is such a huge advantage in this day and age—plus, let's be honest, you won't always have a doctor standing right next to you
Larry Howard4 Larry Howard4 Member
30 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3553 ·
A doctor friend of mine told me that before you even think about starting them, the one thing that actually matters—the absolute dealbreaker—is checking if anyone in your family tree has ever dealt with blood clots or issues with coagulation.
Angela Harris33 Angela Harris33 Member
16 messages
joined May 2007
#3554 ·
Thomas Collins60 said:Read what I actually wrote—I didn't say you should just wing it without doing any research, I said you'd be the one getting your blood drawn
even though the question was really just about whether you know how to read blood test results
think about it: when you walk into a CVS and ask for something, the pharmacist is going to hand you whatever they think is best—so you basically just go with their choice, right?
why wouldn't you just choose for yourself? after you've done a little digging—you know, reading up, Googling, actually getting informed—there’s so much information out there that you can figure out what actually makes sense for you
now, I'm not trying to say we're all smarter than doctors or that Google is a replacement for medical expertise, but being well-informed is such a huge advantage in this day and age—plus, let's be honest, you won't always have a doctor standing right next to you

Look, I was speaking in general terms. I'm not going to do things halfway because that usually just leads to bigger complications down the road.
I always look things up before making a move, including this. Thanks to everyone for the input, anyway.🙂
Joseph Carter8 Joseph Carter8 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Sep 2012
#3555 ·
Joseph Carter8 said:I have a question.

I’m taking Logest. This is my fifth pack. Everything has been perfect so far; no issues at all, and I’ve been very satisfied. I had some spotting only during the first month when I started. Everything was fine until this month. Now that I’ve started the fifth pack, I began experiencing spotting on day 10. It’s been happening since Monday, so today marks the sixth day of spotting. Every time I use the restroom and wipe, there is blood—ranging from pink to deep red. I haven't missed a single pill; I take them right on schedule and feel great, so I don't understand what this bleeding signifies. I am continuing with the pills.

Has anyone else experienced something similar?

Thanks for the help.

Does anyone know what might be causing this?
boldnomad45 boldnomad45 Active Member
148 messages
joined Dec 2020
#3556 ·
Angela Harris33 said:I’m not going to gamble with my own health; I have zero interest in sabotaging myself.
I’m going to look for something much milder. All I know is that I’ve read way too many horror stories about Diane 35 to even consider it.

I went through every hormone test imaginable because of the hair growth issues.
After all those blood draws—mid-cycle, end of cycle, whatever—my specialist at the Mayo Clinic basically told me Diane was the best bet for tackling both the acne and the hair.
I'm planning on a six-month course. Things improved significantly by month four, but I don't see where this leads. The second I stop, everything will just crawl back.
That's what the doctor told me during the initial testing, too.
Everything else is fine. Hormones are stable.
Ovaries are fine.
hollowtrucker2 hollowtrucker2 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Sep 2012
#3557 ·
Hey, is it actually possible for birth control pills to trigger yeast infections—like Candida?

I was on Yasmin for two years and Yaz for about a year, and then I made the switch over to Cilist...
Now that I’ve transitioned to Cilist, I feel like I'm in a constant battle with Candida. It just won't quit, and honestly, I've tried absolutely everything under the sun to get rid of it... It usually seems to flare up right about a week before my period starts.
I never dealt with these kinds of issues while I was taking Yasmin or Yaz. Everything else remains exactly the same as it always has been—my partner, my diet, my workout routine... nothing has changed except this.
Chloe Gray5 Chloe Gray5 Active Member
81 messages
joined Aug 2012
#3558 ·
hollowtrucker2 said:Hey, is it actually possible for birth control pills to trigger yeast infections—like Candida?

I was on Yasmin for two years and Yaz for about a year, and then I made the switch over to Cilist...
Now that I’ve transitioned to Cilist, I feel like I'm in a constant battle with Candida. It just won't quit, and honestly, I've tried absolutely everything under the sun to get rid of it... It usually seems to flare up right about a week before my period starts.
I never dealt with these kinds of issues while I was taking Yasmin or Yaz. Everything else remains exactly the same as it always has been—my partner, my diet, my workout routine... nothing has changed except this.

If I remember correctly, I think I saw something in the Yaz pamphlet ages ago saying it could cause this kind of thing...
Thomas Collins60 Thomas Collins60 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jun 2011
#3559 ·
Pills definitely play a role in how Candida pops up—they basically mess with your "flora"... honestly, if you Google why Candida flares up, it'll tell you right away that medication can be a huge trigger.
I actually suspected my pills were the culprit for a while, but it turned out to be some kind of bacterial issue instead.

Has anyone else dealt with breakthrough bleeding because their cycle was shifting or shortening? Like, what’s considered a "normal" amount of days for spotting to last?
Paul Rivera Paul Rivera Member
44 messages
joined Oct 2011
#3560 ·
hollowtrucker2 said:Hey, is it actually possible for birth control pills to trigger yeast infections—like Candida?

I was on Yasmin for two years and Yaz for about a year, and then I made the switch over to Cilist...
Now that I’ve transitioned to Cilist, I feel like I'm in a constant battle with Candida. It just won't quit, and honestly, I've tried absolutely everything under the sun to get rid of it... It usually seems to flare up right about a week before my period starts.
I never dealt with these kinds of issues while I was taking Yasmin or Yaz. Everything else remains exactly the same as it always has been—my partner, my diet, my workout routine... nothing has changed except this.

It can definitely cause it. Honestly, I never dealt with Candida once until I started the pill.😳
I'm taking beta-glucan now, so maybe that'll help clear things up.

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