Hormonal Contraception: The Pill [General Discussion]

Jacob Wilson50 said:Opinions are split—when exactly does pregnancy actually begin.
Either an upload—or an implant. It’s like choosing between a software patch and a hardware upgrade. One's a quick fix, the other's permanent.
I assume you’re aware that a significant number of "natural" miscarriages occur in women—cases where a fertilized egg simply fails to implant and is expelled instead. It’s basic biology—nature’s own way of filtering out what won't work.

I’m honestly baffled—they’re calling the entire period starting from implantation "pregnancy." It's just illogical.

I agree with you—in my view, pregnancy only truly begins when implantation occurs within the uterine wall. While we talk about "seeds of life," a fertilized egg is really just a cluster of biological matter that hasn't taken shape yet—unlike a fetus, which actually looks like a living being. It’s more like representing massive potential for life rather than being the life itself.

Think of it like this—there’s a distinction between de facto pregnancy, which is just fertilization, and de jure pregnancy, which requires implantation in the uterus. But that raises a massive question—how can such immense biological potential be treated like any other cellular process? Whether it's through natural factors—like selective pressures, an unreceptive uterus, or environmental interference during implantation—or artificial means—like emergency contraception or even early intervention before the embryo reaches the uterus—why is it categorized alongside things like tumors, moles, or basic lactation?

Many women view intentional abortions or unwanted miscarriages through entirely different lenses—each woman’s relationship with a fertilized egg or fetus is unique. Some will argue that these entities don't even possess a soul until the three-month mark, while others will break down in tears over the loss of a life. It makes me wonder how one is actually supposed to process this. Through a microscope, it looks like nothing more than a biological cluster of cells—waiting to develop nerve endings, then blood cells, and so on—yet when it's terminated, people act as if nothing happened.

In my view, the fetus should develop until the third month—only then should God plant a soul into that child, preparing it for its debut in the world six months later...

Go ahead—spit on me if that’s how you want to play it. It's become a predictable routine by now.

Sean Grant85 said:quietfox17,

So, you’re saying you’re against abortion?
Under Islamic law, preventing an embryo from implanting in the uterus isn't even considered an abortion. Pretty interesting thought.
By the way, I’m not Muslim—just a stubborn Catholic with a wildly, aggressively thick sexual history.

What a brilliant deduction!!!!!

Where on earth did you get the idea that I'm against abortion?????

Sean Grant85 said:If you ask me, a fetus should develop until the third month of pregnancy, and then God should plant a soul into that child as it prepares to enter the world six months later...

Personally, I don't think there's a God stepping in to plant souls into fetuses. We're just biological clusters of cells.

What a mess... What if we were birds? You step on an egg in a nest—what is that then? An abortion, or...?

boldgardener93,

I appreciate your line of reasoning—it’s quite logical. Life becomes much easier to navigate once you accept the reality that we are nothing more than a collection of biological cells. Honestly, I’m ready to call it quits myself—I don't see much point in this whole existence.

Sean Grant85 said:hollowharbor12,

I appreciate how you think. It’s actually easier to get through the day once you accept the reality: we’re just a collection of biological cells, nothing more. Personally, I’m ready to call it quits because I can't see much point to any of this existence.

solid idea

Greetings to all,
I have heard various things, yet half of it remains utterly incomprehensible to me...
So, let me get this straight: I visit the gynecologist, undergo blood work, and then—following that—the doctor prescribes medication that must be started on the very first day of my period? Is that truly the protocol? Why must it specifically be day one? Could someone please provide a coherent explanation? And is waiting for that first day absolutely mandatory? 🙂....
Ugh... if I actually have to wait... I fear I might lose my mind from the sheer frustration. 🙂)

Paul Young3 said:So, you go to the gynecologist for blood work???

No, you don't head to the OB-GYN just to get blood drawn. You go to the lab associated with your primary care physician.

Once those results come back and everything looks fine, then your doctor prescribes the specific birth control pills they think fit your profile.

You start the regimen on the first day of your period. That’s how you keep your natural rhythm steady while ensuring the medication is effective immediately.

If for any reason—like after childbirth, an abortion, or a disrupted cycle—you don't start on day one, you have to use backup protection.

Paul Young4 said:Why does it seriously have to be day one of my period? Can someone explain that logic to me? And do I actually HAVE to wait until day one?🙂....

Day one of your period is also day one of your cycle, which is when estrogen starts kicking in to trigger ovulation. If you’re trying to prevent that, you need to start birth control pills to suppress that process. If you don't start on day one, you aren't protected for that cycle. You'd need another method, and honestly, messing around mid-cycle isn't exactly healthy.

Thanks! 🙂
It's quite an undertaking. First, I have to get bloodwork done at my doctor's office, then visit the gynecologist... just the endless list of things one must endure for a little bit of pleasure 🙂)

Kenneth Hernandez67 said:You’re supposed to start taking the pill on the very first day of your period, mostly because it keeps your natural rhythm from getting all wonky, plus they kind of kick in right away that way.

Honestly, it really just depends on which specific brand you're using. For mine, I actually start on day 5 of my cycle (counting from day one of the period, obviously).

Then, you just move on to the next pack seven days after you finish the old one...

What I'm trying to say is, you should probably read the instruction leaflet inside the box. They definitely aren't all the same!

BTW, did you guys know that if you're taking something like antibiotics, it can actually make the pill less effective? So don't be too surprised if the pill "fails" you later on...

And yeah, that's usually written in the instructions too...

So, she asked about starting those hormone pills on the very first day of her cycle.

That was my response to her.

She’ll get all the technical explanations from her gynecologist, along with advice on which specific brand or type fits her body best. To be precise, there are certain types of pills where you don't even take a break between packs... but that wasn't what she was asking.

By the way, if you're in the States, just swing by a local CVS or Walgreens; they can check for drug interactions for you free of charge. It's a smart move.

Nah, I mean, yeah, it’s all good. At least my head isn't killing me, which is honestly the main thing.

Perhaps someone has misconstrued my intentions as well; perhaps I should have framed my inquiry differently. For the record, I have never been one to indulge in pills out of boredom. 🙂 That is, aside from those little remarks along the lines of "you really ought to read the instructions..." 🙂 My point isn't that.

Raymond Newman76 said:Whatever. Honestly, fine by me. But at least my head isn't throbbing for once.

It hurts. It hurts, and yeah, it’s still happening.

honestly, I can't even keep up with all these posts anymore.... what’s the actual price gap between that Triquilar stuff and Logest?
so, I’m finally heading out tomorrow to grab my very first recipe😁
and does the gynecologist actually ask what you need—or do they just dictate the whole thing to you?
oh, and is that one tablet really as legit as they say? You know, the one where you take a single dose and it totally clears up a vaginal yeast infection?

redgardener5 said:I haven't had a chance to read through everything yet... so, what's the actual price difference between Triquilar and Logest?
I'm actually heading in for my very first prescription tomorrow...😁
and does the gynecologist just ask what you need, or do they basically tell you what to take?
oh, and is that one-dose pill really as effective as people say, the one where you just take it once and the vaginal yeast infection is gone?

I honestly didn't even realize those yeast infection pills were a thing...

If you're talking about that one-day treatment from Mionistat or Canesten...

those are actually inserted internally...

and then there's the creams too...

I was pretty skeptical myself until I actually tried it...

electricdriver78 said:I had no idea those antifungal pills were taken orally—quite a surprise, really.

I had them—forgot the name, actually—but I drank them constantly while I was pregnant.😢

It’s either a pack of three—or just a single tablet. That's the deal.

redgardener5, don't go trying to play it by ear.

A Logest costs quite a bit—certainly not cheap. $23Then again—the other ones aren't exactly cheap either.😉

Justin Gonzalez87 said:They definitely exist, though I can't recall the exact name, but I used them back when I was pregnant.😢

You can find them in packs of three or just single doses...

redgardener5, please don't just start taking things without checking first.

Logest goes for about $23, while some other brands might be a bit more budget-friendly...😉

God, I swear, I'm so over this whole situation here in the States...

I mean, what's even the point of messing around with those applicators if you could just swallow it like a pill instead! 🙂

Yeah, there actually is a pill that can pretty much wipe out all the local flora and fauna. It’s prescription-only, though, and you definitely shouldn't be taking it on a regular basis...

My doctor told me he doesn't hand them out willingly—only when it’s absolutely necessary.
Better off just shoving them in the vagina.😉