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Melissa Ramirez70 Melissa Ramirez70 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1341 ·
Metric, look, I don't know—my OBGYN always told me it was totally normal during the first month while the body adjusts to birth control, but if I were in your shoes, I’d definitely give my doctor a call just to be safe. It’s possible those specific pills just aren't the right fit for your system.

That’s exactly why I’m telling you this—I really think you should hear about what happened to me with hormonal contraceptives:
I was actually pretty skeptical about taking them at first; we had always relied on other methods of protection. But my periods were becoming incredibly heavy and painful—I mean, there were times I actually had to go in for injections just to cope—so my doctor insisted that I HAD to start birth control. He argued that besides preventing pregnancy, it would help regulate my cycle. So, I figured, hey, he's the professional, he probably knows best. During that first month, I started seeing this brown discharge, so I went back to see him. He didn't even bother giving me a physical exam; he just brushed it off, saying it was normal and to keep taking them. The second month, the same thing happened (I was basically living in pantyliners at that point), so I decided to stop taking them on my own. I went to another gynecologist, who told me it was actually a smart move to take a break rather than forcing myself to continue through the next cycle. When I eventually restarted them and experienced the exact same symptoms, I went back to the first doctor, and once again, he claimed everything was fine. Naturally, I took matters into my own hands and stopped again. And then... the fallout happened. My period vanished, only coming once every sixty days. I went back to him, he ran a Pap smear, and called me back a month later to tell me I had cervical cancer!!! And that I had HPV!!! All without any proper testing! I was in total shock—disbelief, tears—I was only 23 years old. To me, it made no sense; I knew for a fact I hadn't been unfaithful, so it had to be him! We fought about it, and he kept insisting he wasn't 100% sure. He eventually sent me over to the Mayo Clinic for HPV testing. That whole ordeal dragged on for six months, and through it all, he didn't offer me a single shred of actual medical guidance. His nurse actually pulled me aside and told me I needed to find a new doctor immediately!! As it turns out, my HPV test came back negative! I took all my records to a different specialist, and get this: No cervical cancer (the second doctor pointed out that if he truly suspected it, he shouldn't have said anything until a biopsy confirmed it), and no HPV. Instead, it turned out the pills he prescribed were far too strong for my body, and they actually caused one of my ovaries to shut down completely—it doesn't work anymore!! He really should have taken just one moment during all those appointments to check if those pills were actually compatible with my biology!
So now, I only menstruate every sixty days, which means I'm ovulating half as often as a healthy woman should. And all of that because of one incompetent doctor!
Fast forward to today—my husband is now my partner, and when we decided we wanted to have a child, it took a full year of hormone treatments, monthly ultrasounds to track ovulation, and a mountain of other tests just to conceive. I had to be incredibly careful not to even catch a cold or something similar, because I was terrified of losing the function of my one remaining healthy ovary entirely!
Thankfully, we have a very happy one-year-old running around today!!!
That’s why I’m telling you: it is so much better to double-check and prevent a disaster than to spend the rest of your life dealing with the consequences!
Aaron Garcia36 Aaron Garcia36 Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1342 ·
This is a harrowing tale, and honestly, I hope it never happens to anyone else. Despite all the misfortune, everything managed to turn out somewhat okay in the end.
Melissa Ramirez70 Melissa Ramirez70 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1343 ·
And honestly, I find myself feeling quite grateful toward my current gynecologist for everything they've done—really, it’s been such a relief.
At this stage, I'm just holding onto hope that we'll be able to successfully welcome a second little one when the time is right...
Aaron Garcia36 Aaron Garcia36 Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1344 ·
Melissa Ramirez70 said:And honestly, I find myself feeling quite grateful toward my current gynecologist for everything they've done—really, it’s been such a relief.
At this stage, I'm just holding onto hope that we'll be able to successfully welcome a second little one when the time is right...

It is truly terrifying to see women placing their health into someone's hands with such good intentions and trust, only for that person to gamble with it.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1345 ·
Melissa Ramirez70 said:Metric, look, I don't know—my OBGYN always told me it was totally normal during the first month while the body adjusts to birth control, but if I were in your shoes, I’d definitely give my doctor a call just to be safe. It’s possible those specific pills just aren't the right fit for your system.

That’s exactly why I’m telling you this—I really think you should hear about what happened to me with hormonal contraceptives:
I was actually pretty skeptical about taking them at first; we had always relied on other methods of protection. But my periods were becoming incredibly heavy and painful—I mean, there were times I actually had to go in for injections just to cope—so my doctor insisted that I HAD to start birth control. He argued that besides preventing pregnancy, it would help regulate my cycle. So, I figured, hey, he's the professional, he probably knows best. During that first month, I started seeing this brown discharge, so I went back to see him. He didn't even bother giving me a physical exam; he just brushed it off, saying it was normal and to keep taking them. The second month, the same thing happened (I was basically living in pantyliners at that point), so I decided to stop taking them on my own. I went to another gynecologist, who told me it was actually a smart move to take a break rather than forcing myself to continue through the next cycle. When I eventually restarted them and experienced the exact same symptoms, I went back to the first doctor, and once again, he claimed everything was fine. Naturally, I took matters into my own hands and stopped again. And then... the fallout happened. My period vanished, only coming once every sixty days. I went back to him, he ran a Pap smear, and called me back a month later to tell me I had cervical cancer!!! And that I had HPV!!! All without any proper testing! I was in total shock—disbelief, tears—I was only 23 years old. To me, it made no sense; I knew for a fact I hadn't been unfaithful, so it had to be him! We fought about it, and he kept insisting he wasn't 100% sure. He eventually sent me over to the Mayo Clinic for HPV testing. That whole ordeal dragged on for six months, and through it all, he didn't offer me a single shred of actual medical guidance. His nurse actually pulled me aside and told me I needed to find a new doctor immediately!! As it turns out, my HPV test came back negative! I took all my records to a different specialist, and get this: No cervical cancer (the second doctor pointed out that if he truly suspected it, he shouldn't have said anything until a biopsy confirmed it), and no HPV. Instead, it turned out the pills he prescribed were far too strong for my body, and they actually caused one of my ovaries to shut down completely—it doesn't work anymore!! He really should have taken just one moment during all those appointments to check if those pills were actually compatible with my biology!
So now, I only menstruate every sixty days, which means I'm ovulating half as often as a healthy woman should. And all of that because of one incompetent doctor!
Fast forward to today—my husband is now my partner, and when we decided we wanted to have a child, it took a full year of hormone treatments, monthly ultrasounds to track ovulation, and a mountain of other tests just to conceive. I had to be incredibly careful not to even catch a cold or something similar, because I was terrified of losing the function of my one remaining healthy ovary entirely!
Thankfully, we have a very happy one-year-old running around today!!!
That’s why I’m telling you: it is so much better to double-check and prevent a disaster than to spend the rest of your life dealing with the consequences!

Honestly, your logic is full of holes...
And you didn't even mention which brand of birth control you were on. You're ready to pin everything on the doctor, but conveniently ignoring the fact that you made a conscious choice to mess with your own health and gamble with your body... like that doesn't count for anything.🙄

Now you're out here scaring some girl who's having the most standard, textbook reaction to her first dose of hormones...
Give me a break...
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1346 ·
brightbear said:Honestly, your logic is full of holes...
And you didn't even mention which brand of birth control you were on. You're ready to pin everything on the doctor, but conveniently ignoring the fact that you made a conscious choice to mess with your own health and gamble with your body... like that doesn't count for anything.🙄

Now you're out here scaring some girl who's having the most standard, textbook reaction to her first dose of hormones...
Give me a break...

I don't think there's really any need for accusations here; she was simply sharing her own experience in the hope that it might be of some help to someone else. 🤷
I wouldn't exactly go so far as to say she is. I have to admit, I was quite reckless with my health, making choices that I knew deep down were doing real damage to my body. Honestly, she was just following her gynecologist’s instructions. While it's true she decided to stop taking the pills on her own, I really don't believe that's what caused her issues. I tend to do the same thing—whenever I feel like I need a break, I just stop, and then I simply mention at my next check-up that I took a two or three-month hiatus. It seems perfectly reasonable to me. A woman who truly understands her own body is usually intuitive enough to recognize when something feels off and make the choices she feels are best for her own well-being.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1347 ·
She just completely ignored everything her gynecologist told her, which is honestly such irresponsible behavior when it comes to your own health. Nowadays, even the birds in the trees are singing "follow your doctor's orders," yet the second someone decides to play rogue and do their own thing, suddenly everyone else is to blame...🙄

p.s. There’s absolutely zero logic in taking breaks from birth control pills.
Aaron Garcia36 Aaron Garcia36 Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1348 ·
brightbear said:She just completely ignored everything her gynecologist told her, which is honestly such irresponsible behavior when it comes to your own health. Nowadays, even the birds in the trees are singing "follow your doctor's orders," yet the second someone decides to play rogue and do their own thing, suddenly everyone else is to blame...🙄

p.s. There’s absolutely zero logic in taking breaks from birth control pills.

Look, I actually know two gynecologists—one doctor and one specialist—who caused massive issues for two different women simply because they "blindly" followed medical advice without questioning it. In my opinion, every woman knows her own body and how it reacts; if you don't know your own rhythms, that’s when you need to start paying attention. We instinctively know when something isn't right. For me, trusting that gut feeling was a literal lifesaver; if I hadn't reacted the way I did, I wouldn't be typing here right now—I'd be six feet under. ☕ Against all odds, I decided to ignore my gynecologist's instructions—and honestly, that choice is the only reason I’m still here today.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1349 ·
The whole point of these permissions is just to uphold the rules. Look, even my OB-GYN hasn't always made the best calls, but hey, there’s always a second opinion out there.

But seriously, this girl asks a question about the most basic, totally normal spotting, and instead of an answer, she gets some horror story involving HPV, cervical cancer, dried-up ovaries caused by birth control 😕( ?? — honestly, I’ve never heard of that, never read it, never seen anyone mention it, let alone find it in any medical literature )
All that exaggeration is just completely unnecessary. Creating massive drama over a little bit of brown discharge—which, by the way, happens to almost everyone when they first start on the pill. For what?? What is the actual goal here? I truly believe we women should be looking out for one another, not scaring each other half to death with baseless info...
Aaron Garcia36 Aaron Garcia36 Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1350 ·
brightbear said:The whole point of these permissions is just to uphold the rules. Look, even my OB-GYN hasn't always made the best calls, but hey, there’s always a second opinion out there.

But seriously, this girl asks a question about the most basic, totally normal spotting, and instead of an answer, she gets some horror story involving HPV, cervical cancer, dried-up ovaries caused by birth control 😕( ?? — honestly, I’ve never heard of that, never read it, never seen anyone mention it, let alone find it in any medical literature )
All that exaggeration is just completely unnecessary. Creating massive drama over a little bit of brown discharge—which, by the way, happens to almost everyone when they first start on the pill. For what?? What is the actual goal here? I truly believe we women should be looking out for one another, not scaring each other half to death with baseless info...

That’s true, but look at it this way: if a woman comes along here describing the exact same symptoms I had—symptoms my OBGYN insisted were perfectly fine and told me I was just being dramatic—I absolutely intend to tell her not to play games. I'll urge her to trust her own gut if she feels something is wrong, because the risks are real.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to terrorize anyone on this forum; I just want to share what happened to me so others don't fall into the same trap when a doctor happens to be completely incompetent.

I highly doubt anyone here wants to cause panic; we're all just trying to offer advice and support. We all blindly put our lives in the hands of so-called "experts," but unfortunately, not everyone earns that level of trust, whether we like to admit it or not.
Melissa Ramirez70 Melissa Ramirez70 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1351 ·
brightbear said:Honestly, your logic is full of holes...
And you didn't even mention which brand of birth control you were on. You're ready to pin everything on the doctor, but conveniently ignoring the fact that you made a conscious choice to mess with your own health and gamble with your body... like that doesn't count for anything.🙄

Now you're out here scaring some girl who's having the most standard, textbook reaction to her first dose of hormones...
Give me a break...

I’m truly sorry—it certainly wasn't my intention to frighten anyone; I was simply sharing my own experience, as raw as it was. While I don't feel the need to sit here and justify myself to anyone, I can say this with total sincerity: may you never, ever have to endure what I’ve been through.
I honestly have no idea how you reached the conclusion that my story is full of holes—though I suppose it’s probably because I neglected to mention the whole ordeal with my previous doctor. He basically looked at a bad Pap smear caused by a simple bacterial infection and jumped straight to a cancer diagnosis, especially since my period was late too! And get this—he didn't even try to actually treat me. He just let things linger, which could have made everything so much worse. Once I finally switched doctors, the new guy prescribed some vaginal suppositories, and everything cleared up in a week. Just a little insight into "professionalism" for you—this man kept me convinced I had cancer and HPV for six straight months!
I just finished off a glass of Diet Coke—honestly, I’m not even sure why I bother with the "diet" part anymore, but here we are.
Oh, my dear, honestly—if I hadn’t stayed the course with my medication and actually followed my gynecologist's advice, I would have lost my second ovary too. I mean, I'm being completely serious; I wouldn't have had any chance of having children at all.
Honestly, I’m still struggling to wrap my head around it—how exactly was I consciously sabotaging my own body? Even he pointed out that taking a break was probably the smartest move I could have made. If anything, the real damage would have come from constantly running back to him and just completely ignoring all those warning signs!
Anyway—get this—even his own assistant pulled me aside and told me I should probably just go see another doctor altogether!
And yeah, I’m totally blaming him—because he really is responsible for everything I’ve had to endure, all because of his blatant lack of professionalism. Honestly, maybe that says everything you need to know about the guy; apparently, he isn't even allowed to practice at any private clinics in our county anymore, he's strictly relegated to the hospital. I don't know what it's like where you're from, but around here, doctors usually split their time between private practices and the hospital, or they stick solely to one or the other. But him? They've effectively stripped him of those private opportunities—and frankly, I'm not complaining. When I was undergoing various tests and follow-up exams with other physicians—doctors I actually had to seek out just to get them to successfully perform surgery on my other ovary after everything he put me through—they told me straight up that I might have grounds for a lawsuit due to medical malpractice.
And honestly—I just couldn't bring myself to deal with the legal circus. Between the paperwork and the endless back-and-forth in those courtrooms, it felt overwhelming. I decided that my priority had to be elsewhere—specifically, focusing on my own recovery. It was more important to heal than to spend all my energy fighting through the system.
I honestly think that says much more about him than it does about anyone else!
Metric, I’m so sorry—Sam totally schooled you!
Melissa Ramirez70 Melissa Ramirez70 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1352 ·
brightbear said:The whole point of these permissions is just to uphold the rules. Look, even my OB-GYN hasn't always made the best calls, but hey, there’s always a second opinion out there.

But seriously, this girl asks a question about the most basic, totally normal spotting, and instead of an answer, she gets some horror story involving HPV, cervical cancer, dried-up ovaries caused by birth control 😕( ?? — honestly, I’ve never heard of that, never read it, never seen anyone mention it, let alone find it in any medical literature )
All that exaggeration is just completely unnecessary. Creating massive drama over a little bit of brown discharge—which, by the way, happens to almost everyone when they first start on the pill. For what?? What is the actual goal here? I truly believe we women should be looking out for one another, not scaring each other half to death with baseless info...

Look, like I’ve already told you—and I really don't see the point in repeating myself here—I don't owe you any explanations!
Look, is it really that out of line for me to call you out on spreading baseless rumors? Because—and please, just walk through my logic here—what exactly would my motivation be to claim I’m making things up? What possible reason could I have to suggest I’m spinning some wild tale just because a girl is dealing with brown discharge? Do you honestly think my goal here is to go out and scare some woman I haven't even met in my entire life? I genuinely don't follow your train of thought at all. Seriously, what am I supposed to be trying to achieve here? What kind of endgame could I possibly have?
I wanted to explain why I went about things the way I did—and honestly, maybe I shouldn’t have gone into such exhaustive detail regarding how unprofessional that gynecologist was, or all the heavy stuff about cancer and HPV. But I ended up writing a whole manifesto because, let’s face it, experiences like that tend to stick with you for a lifetime. You can't truly grasp what it feels like when a doctor looks you straight in the eye and tells you that you have cancer—especially when you're young, terrified, and just trying to process it all. And just to be crystal clear: this isn't about brown discharge or birth control pills. This is entirely about a physician's lack of professionalism. Anyone reading this should be able to see that my issue lies with the doctor's conduct, not with some supposed link between oral contraceptives, cancer, or HPV. My only real intention here was to draw attention to the fact that being vocal matters. It doesn't cost much, and it certainly doesn't take a lot of time, but speaking up can mean everything. Every body is different—truly—and not everyone reacts to hormonal pills the same way. Some people might have wonderful experiences with them, but, well... clearly, I am not one of those people.
Look, there’s really no need for us to get defensive or end up in a shouting match over this! Honestly—and I say this with all due respect to everyone involved—getting worked up and picking fights just isn't productive. We can disagree without making it personal, right? Let's just keep things civil.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1353 ·
brightbear said:She just completely ignored everything her gynecologist told her, which is honestly such irresponsible behavior when it comes to your own health. Nowadays, even the birds in the trees are singing "follow your doctor's orders," yet the second someone decides to play rogue and do their own thing, suddenly everyone else is to blame...🙄

p.s. There’s absolutely zero logic in taking breaks from birth control pills.

Well, I feel compelled to offer a different perspective here, because back when I was sixteen, a doctor once told me I had some sort of "lesion" on my cervix that required cauterization. I suppose I was quite lucky that I decided to do a little digging of my own, only to discover that the procedure they suggested hadn't been the standard for about a decade, and even when it was used, it was typically reserved for women who had already given birth. Every other specialist I’ve seen since—three in total—didn't mention it at all, and when I did ask, they explained it wasn't necessary and that what I had was actually a perfectly normal occurrence for young women. It was really just a tiny protrusion and a slight change in pigmentation, which caused me absolutely no issues. So, I suppose it might be wiser to do a bit of research before blindly 🙂following medical advice
. You can't exactly tell a young woman to just listen to her doctor if she realizes that what is being proposed doesn't quite sit right with her.
brightbear said:She just completely ignored everything her gynecologist told her, which is honestly such irresponsible behavior when it comes to your own health. Nowadays, even the birds in the trees are singing "follow your doctor's orders," yet the second someone decides to play rogue and do their own thing, suddenly everyone else is to blame...🙄

p.s. There’s absolutely zero logic in taking breaks from birth control pills.

I suspect you might have read that somewhere, much like that idea about following doctors' orders without question,🙂

If anyone knows anything, it's that we ought to take charge of our own health, and if there is even a shadow of a doubt, you really should seek out a second opinion!
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1354 ·
Melissa Ramirez70 said:Look, like I’ve already told you—and I really don't see the point in repeating myself here—I don't owe you any explanations!
Look, is it really that out of line for me to call you out on spreading baseless rumors? Because—and please, just walk through my logic here—what exactly would my motivation be to claim I’m making things up? What possible reason could I have to suggest I’m spinning some wild tale just because a girl is dealing with brown discharge? Do you honestly think my goal here is to go out and scare some woman I haven't even met in my entire life? I genuinely don't follow your train of thought at all. Seriously, what am I supposed to be trying to achieve here? What kind of endgame could I possibly have?
I wanted to explain why I went about things the way I did—and honestly, maybe I shouldn’t have gone into such exhaustive detail regarding how unprofessional that gynecologist was, or all the heavy stuff about cancer and HPV. But I ended up writing a whole manifesto because, let’s face it, experiences like that tend to stick with you for a lifetime. You can't truly grasp what it feels like when a doctor looks you straight in the eye and tells you that you have cancer—especially when you're young, terrified, and just trying to process it all. And just to be crystal clear: this isn't about brown discharge or birth control pills. This is entirely about a physician's lack of professionalism. Anyone reading this should be able to see that my issue lies with the doctor's conduct, not with some supposed link between oral contraceptives, cancer, or HPV. My only real intention here was to draw attention to the fact that being vocal matters. It doesn't cost much, and it certainly doesn't take a lot of time, but speaking up can mean everything. Every body is different—truly—and not everyone reacts to hormonal pills the same way. Some people might have wonderful experiences with them, but, well... clearly, I am not one of those people.
Look, there’s really no need for us to get defensive or end up in a shouting match over this! Honestly—and I say this with all due respect to everyone involved—getting worked up and picking fights just isn't productive. We can disagree without making it personal, right? Let's just keep things civil.

Okay... fine, no need to get worked up.
I wasn't saying your story was full of holes because you're lying, but more because you left out so much detail while presenting this extreme scenario that rarely actually happens.

It drives me crazy when I come to a forum looking for actual information on a specific issue, only to run into these wild, polarized responses that swing from one absolute extreme to the other!
You know exactly what I mean...
For instance, someone asks about common yeast infections (which happen all the time after taking antibiotics), and they get answers ranging from "Yeah, that's totally normal" to "Oh my god, you're literally dying"... And usually, it's the people who have no clue providing those answers. For some reason, it feels like half the people here just want to act like experts based on something they read once online rather than anything they've actually experienced!
Specifically here, so many girls ask about birth control, only to run into lies or misinformation that leads them to stop taking their medication entirely. If a girl has PCOS or something similar, stopping can lead to long-term infertility... who benefits from that?
In our case, the girl asks about brown discharge—simple spotting that is so common it should have been the only thing mentioned. And that's how it should have gone, until you shared your story which, frankly, frustrated me. First, you didn't provide the vital details—which pill, which doctor, what was the diagnosis... and second, you already had issues with heavy and painful periods, so it's highly likely you had PCOS to begin with. You were prescribed high-dose Diane to treat it and dealt with complications that have absolutely zero connection to her situation. She just started a new pill and needs time to adjust; there's no way to know if she's reacting poorly yet. You can only tell if the initial side effects don't subside after three months.
... I hope you see why I reacted that way. I wasn't trying to insult you or anything, I just felt your response was misplaced and incomplete. Even the diagnosis part isn't quite clear to me, but I am glad the consequences weren't dire, since you have a child now, thank goodness.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1355 ·
brightbear said:The whole point of these permissions is just to uphold the rules. Look, even my OB-GYN hasn't always made the best calls, but hey, there’s always a second opinion out there.

But seriously, this girl asks a question about the most basic, totally normal spotting, and instead of an answer, she gets some horror story involving HPV, cervical cancer, dried-up ovaries caused by birth control 😕( ?? — honestly, I’ve never heard of that, never read it, never seen anyone mention it, let alone find it in any medical literature )
All that exaggeration is just completely unnecessary. Creating massive drama over a little bit of brown discharge—which, by the way, happens to almost everyone when they first start on the pill. For what?? What is the actual goal here? I truly believe we women should be looking out for one another, not scaring each other half to death with baseless info...

I suppose there is always a first time for everything 😁 😛
(including for you, perhaps, to hear such things)
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1356 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:Well, I feel compelled to offer a different perspective here, because back when I was sixteen, a doctor once told me I had some sort of "lesion" on my cervix that required cauterization. I suppose I was quite lucky that I decided to do a little digging of my own, only to discover that the procedure they suggested hadn't been the standard for about a decade, and even when it was used, it was typically reserved for women who had already given birth. Every other specialist I’ve seen since—three in total—didn't mention it at all, and when I did ask, they explained it wasn't necessary and that what I had was actually a perfectly normal occurrence for young women. It was really just a tiny protrusion and a slight change in pigmentation, which caused me absolutely no issues. So, I suppose it might be wiser to do a bit of research before blindly 🙂following medical advice
. You can't exactly tell a young woman to just listen to her doctor if she realizes that what is being proposed doesn't quite sit right with her.

I suspect you might have read that somewhere, much like that idea about following doctors' orders without question,🙂

If anyone knows anything, it's that we ought to take charge of our own health, and if there is even a shadow of a doubt, you really should seek out a second opinion!

Yeah, get a second opinion. But honestly, believe me, every single gynecologist I've ever heard from says there is zero reason or need to take breaks with this new generation of birth control pills.
If you happen to have some actual data or different info to share, please do—that would be way more helpful than just going back and forth in circles.
So... what's really the point of taking breaks anyway??
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1357 ·
brightbear said:Okay... fine, no need to get worked up.
I wasn't saying your story was full of holes because you're lying, but more because you left out so much detail while presenting this extreme scenario that rarely actually happens.

It drives me crazy when I come to a forum looking for actual information on a specific issue, only to run into these wild, polarized responses that swing from one absolute extreme to the other!
You know exactly what I mean...
For instance, someone asks about common yeast infections (which happen all the time after taking antibiotics), and they get answers ranging from "Yeah, that's totally normal" to "Oh my god, you're literally dying"... And usually, it's the people who have no clue providing those answers. For some reason, it feels like half the people here just want to act like experts based on something they read once online rather than anything they've actually experienced!
Specifically here, so many girls ask about birth control, only to run into lies or misinformation that leads them to stop taking their medication entirely. If a girl has PCOS or something similar, stopping can lead to long-term infertility... who benefits from that?
In our case, the girl asks about brown discharge—simple spotting that is so common it should have been the only thing mentioned. And that's how it should have gone, until you shared your story which, frankly, frustrated me. First, you didn't provide the vital details—which pill, which doctor, what was the diagnosis... and second, you already had issues with heavy and painful periods, so it's highly likely you had PCOS to begin with. You were prescribed high-dose Diane to treat it and dealt with complications that have absolutely zero connection to her situation. She just started a new pill and needs time to adjust; there's no way to know if she's reacting poorly yet. You can only tell if the initial side effects don't subside after three months.
... I hope you see why I reacted that way. I wasn't trying to insult you or anything, I just felt your response was misplaced and incomplete. Even the diagnosis part isn't quite clear to me, but I am glad the consequences weren't dire, since you have a child now, thank goodness.

I'm sorry, dear, but I truly think she was just trying to be helpful. I didn't get the impression at all that she was trying to scare anyone; it seemed more like she just wanted the girl to keep an eye on whether the discharge recurs or if other symptoms pop up.
Her approach is completely different from those typical stories I see online all the time, you know the ones, where people react with, "Oh my god, go to the ER immediately... it's a serious illness!!!!!"
Again, I really don't feel like she had any intention of causing panic, and I personally feel you might have been a bit too harsh when you called her out.☕
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
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#1358 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:I suppose there is always a first time for everything 😁 😛
(including for you, perhaps, to hear such things)

So, have you actually heard of this before? What’s the official diagnosis?
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#1359 ·
brightbear said:Yeah, get a second opinion. But honestly, believe me, every single gynecologist I've ever heard from says there is zero reason or need to take breaks with this new generation of birth control pills.
If you happen to have some actual data or different info to share, please do—that would be way more helpful than just going back and forth in circles.
So... what's really the point of taking breaks anyway??

Sometimes the body just needs a moment to "relax" from those synthetic hormones and artificial menstrual cycles. Do you really think it's healthy—unless medically required—to constantly flood your system with hormones without any downtime???

Maybe do a little digging on Google and see how much the hormone levels actually differ; they aren't so vastly different that we can say for certain that breaks were necessary before but aren't now.
Birth control is inherently "artificial," and by its nature, it isn't exactly great for the body.
I’ve been on the pill for years and I make sure to take regular breaks. My doctor is completely on board with that approach.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#1360 ·
Here is a comparison for you:

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One tablet contains:
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One tablet contains:
It seems we are looking at a specific dosage consisting of 0.25 mg of norgestimate and 0.035 mg of ethinyl estradiol. While I am certainly no medical professional, these figures represent a standard combination often found in various oral contraceptive formulations used here in the States.

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Composition
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I suppose I should attempt to put my thoughts into some sort of coherent arrangement, though I often find that my attempts at structure tend to unravel just as I begin to feel confident in them.
A single sugar-coated pill contains 0.150 mg of levonorgestrel and 0.030 mg of ethinyl estradiol.

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One tablet contains:
I’ve been spending quite a bit of time lately looking into the specifics of this particular hormonal combination—specifically the 3 mg of drospirenone paired with 0.02 mg of ethinyl estradiol—and I find myself feeling a little overwhelmed by all the technical data out there. It seems like such a precise balance to strike, and while I try my best to stay informed about these things, I often worry that I might be overthinking the nuances of how they actually affect the body.

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