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Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1361 ·
brightbear said:So, have you actually heard of this before? What’s the official diagnosis?

Look, honey, I didn't go to medical school just to hand out diagnoses, so maybe you should just look it up on Google yourself.
Yes, I have heard about it. It’s essentially a matter of dysfunctional ovaries—where their function basically "fades away" due to various underlying issues, much like how the liver can be damaged by alcohol consumption.
It only takes a minor amount of damage to an ovary for something external to completely incapacitate its function, and in this specific instance, it was caused by pills that were far too strong.
You could have easily read for yourself that her gynecologist was the one who provided that information... and since you mentioned earlier that we really ought to listen to our doctors, it seems pretty obvious she's right.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1362 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:Sometimes the body just needs a moment to "relax" from those synthetic hormones and artificial menstrual cycles. Do you really think it's healthy—unless medically required—to constantly flood your system with hormones without any downtime???

Maybe do a little digging on Google and see how much the hormone levels actually differ; they aren't so vastly different that we can say for certain that breaks were necessary before but aren't now.
Birth control is inherently "artificial," and by its nature, it isn't exactly great for the body.
I’ve been on the pill for years and I make sure to take regular breaks. My doctor is completely on board with that approach.

Look, for instance, I don't think this is quite right... 😉

But hey, if your doctor told you to take a break, then I guess you should probably listen. They likely figured you needed the downtime...

Still, for others, skipping them does more harm than good. Take me, for example. Yeah, I tried taking a break... total mistake.
- There’s actually no medical reason to stop.
- Your body basically has to relearn how to deal with the pills all over again!
- All those benefits you got from the pill can vanish instantly, and you might end up dealing with cysts, acne, or hair thinning...
- And there's always the risk of an unplanned pregnancy.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1363 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:Look, honey, I didn't go to medical school just to hand out diagnoses, so maybe you should just look it up on Google yourself.
Yes, I have heard about it. It’s essentially a matter of dysfunctional ovaries—where their function basically "fades away" due to various underlying issues, much like how the liver can be damaged by alcohol consumption.
It only takes a minor amount of damage to an ovary for something external to completely incapacitate its function, and in this specific instance, it was caused by pills that were far too strong.
You could have easily read for yourself that her gynecologist was the one who provided that information... and since you mentioned earlier that we really ought to listen to our doctors, it seems pretty obvious she's right.


It looks like we’re never going to see eye to eye on this one today... 🤣 😉

I mean, I know non-functional ovaries exist, but I’ve never actually heard of that happening because of the pill. Usually, they say the exact opposite—that pills actually protect ovaries from damage, cysts, and cancer. To me, those are pretty solid reasons...
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1364 ·
brightbear said:Look, for instance, I don't think this is quite right... 😉

But hey, if your doctor told you to take a break, then I guess you should probably listen. They likely figured you needed the downtime...

Still, for others, skipping them does more harm than good. Take me, for example. Yeah, I tried taking a break... total mistake.
- There’s actually no medical reason to stop.
- Your body basically has to relearn how to deal with the pills all over again!
- All those benefits you got from the pill can vanish instantly, and you might end up dealing with cysts, acne, or hair thinning...
- And there's always the risk of an unplanned pregnancy.

Look, it’s clear you shouldn't take a break, but there really isn't any reason to tell everyone else they're wrong or judge all our "vices" just because you have this one specific piece of advice from your doctor. Everyone's body reacts differently, and you can't really tell someone, "No, you aren't allowed to take a break!" For some people, taking a break might actually be necessary to see if their condition—like spotting or painful periods—actually improves or stays the same. Eventually, a woman is going to stop taking birth control, and it's better to use those breaks to figure out if things get better or worse. It's probably better to find that out early rather than continuing to "poison" oneself.

Please, let's just lower the tension, because none of us are claiming to be the absolute smartest here, which means no one (including you) can say with total certainty what the perfect path is... the best thing to do is just share advice and see what kind of responses we get.

Peace! 🙂 🤣
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1365 ·
brightbear said:It looks like we’re never going to see eye to eye on this one today... 🤣 😉

I mean, I know non-functional ovaries exist, but I’ve never actually heard of that happening because of the pill. Usually, they say the exact opposite—that pills actually protect ovaries from damage, cysts, and cancer. To me, those are pretty solid reasons...

Unfortunately, that isn't always the case across the board, as there is almost always a lingering "but..." lurking somewhere.😢
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1366 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:Look, it’s clear you shouldn't take a break, but there really isn't any reason to tell everyone else they're wrong or judge all our "vices" just because you have this one specific piece of advice from your doctor. Everyone's body reacts differently, and you can't really tell someone, "No, you aren't allowed to take a break!" For some people, taking a break might actually be necessary to see if their condition—like spotting or painful periods—actually improves or stays the same. Eventually, a woman is going to stop taking birth control, and it's better to use those breaks to figure out if things get better or worse. It's probably better to find that out early rather than continuing to "poison" oneself.

Please, let's just lower the tension, because none of us are claiming to be the absolute smartest here, which means no one (including you) can say with total certainty what the perfect path is... the best thing to do is just share advice and see what kind of responses we get.

Peace! 🙂 🤣

Alright, fine. Maybe we'll cross paths on a different thread during a break 😉 because this one’s getting pretty heavy... I’ll take that virtual beer from you, since I'm clearly not grabbing one out at the pub right now anyway.😛

🙂
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1367 ·
brightbear said:Alright, fine. Maybe we'll cross paths on a different thread during a break 😉 because this one’s getting pretty heavy... I’ll take that virtual beer from you, since I'm clearly not grabbing one out at the pub right now anyway.😛

🙂

Haha, I suppose you're right! 😂 Though, I must admit I have much more interesting plans for this evening than just drinking beer... if you catch my drift. 🤣
Best, 👋

Hehe... but I really felt the need to share this one: 🙂
🤣 🤣 🤣
Brandon Reyes6 Brandon Reyes6 Member
24 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1368 ·
So, here’s a little something regarding birth control pills. I came across an article aimed at those who mistakenly believe that certain hormonal imbalances—specifically PCOS—can be "fixed" by taking the pill, which, quite frankly, is a complete misconception.
Contraceptives remain, quite rightfully, one of the most effective forms of protection out there. It’s the reason they are used globally as the go-to method—it’s simple science, really. They work by essentially shutting down ovulation. Since no egg is released during the course of treatment, pregnancy doesn't happen. For fertilization to occur, an egg has to exit the ovaries through ovulation, and that is precisely what these pills are designed to block.

To put it another way—while you're on them, there is no ovulation; the ovaries just sit idle. Menstrual cycles become lighter and less painful because the uterine lining remains thin. Women dealing with irregular cycles often take the pill and think they’ve been "cured," but it’s usually nothing more than a temporary illusion. Once you stop taking them, those old issues tend to come crawling back.

When we talk about gynecological health, we have to address PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome). This involves enlarged ovaries where ovulation is blocked due to elevated testosterone levels and low estrogen. In these specific cases, relying on birth control might actually end up making fertility issues even worse.

What this means in practical terms is that any young woman or adult should undergo a thorough check-up—including a pelvic ultrasound—before being prescribed oral contraceptives, just to rule out polycystic ovaries. Hormonal blood work can also be incredibly useful. One should absolutely avoid self-prescribing or taking these without a consultation from a doctor. I want to specifically point out Trinovum; while it may be an excellent medication for certain medical indications, using it strictly as a contraceptive can be problematic. It often blocks ovulation and the cycle too aggressively, leading to periods that are excessively light or, in some cases, stopping altogether.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1369 ·
Brandon Reyes6 said:So, here’s a little something regarding birth control pills. I came across an article aimed at those who mistakenly believe that certain hormonal imbalances—specifically PCOS—can be "fixed" by taking the pill, which, quite frankly, is a complete misconception.
Contraceptives remain, quite rightfully, one of the most effective forms of protection out there. It’s the reason they are used globally as the go-to method—it’s simple science, really. They work by essentially shutting down ovulation. Since no egg is released during the course of treatment, pregnancy doesn't happen. For fertilization to occur, an egg has to exit the ovaries through ovulation, and that is precisely what these pills are designed to block.

To put it another way—while you're on them, there is no ovulation; the ovaries just sit idle. Menstrual cycles become lighter and less painful because the uterine lining remains thin. Women dealing with irregular cycles often take the pill and think they’ve been "cured," but it’s usually nothing more than a temporary illusion. Once you stop taking them, those old issues tend to come crawling back.

When we talk about gynecological health, we have to address PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome). This involves enlarged ovaries where ovulation is blocked due to elevated testosterone levels and low estrogen. In these specific cases, relying on birth control might actually end up making fertility issues even worse.

What this means in practical terms is that any young woman or adult should undergo a thorough check-up—including a pelvic ultrasound—before being prescribed oral contraceptives, just to rule out polycystic ovaries. Hormonal blood work can also be incredibly useful. One should absolutely avoid self-prescribing or taking these without a consultation from a doctor. I want to specifically point out Trinovum; while it may be an excellent medication for certain medical indications, using it strictly as a contraceptive can be problematic. It often blocks ovulation and the cycle too aggressively, leading to periods that are excessively light or, in some cases, stopping altogether.

Actually, no, that’s incorrect.

Brandon Reyes6 said:So, here’s a little something regarding birth control pills. I came across an article aimed at those who mistakenly believe that certain hormonal imbalances—specifically PCOS—can be "fixed" by taking the pill, which, quite frankly, is a complete misconception.
Contraceptives remain, quite rightfully, one of the most effective forms of protection out there. It’s the reason they are used globally as the go-to method—it’s simple science, really. They work by essentially shutting down ovulation. Since no egg is released during the course of treatment, pregnancy doesn't happen. For fertilization to occur, an egg has to exit the ovaries through ovulation, and that is precisely what these pills are designed to block.

To put it another way—while you're on them, there is no ovulation; the ovaries just sit idle. Menstrual cycles become lighter and less painful because the uterine lining remains thin. Women dealing with irregular cycles often take the pill and think they’ve been "cured," but it’s usually nothing more than a temporary illusion. Once you stop taking them, those old issues tend to come crawling back.

When we talk about gynecological health, we have to address PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome). This involves enlarged ovaries where ovulation is blocked due to elevated testosterone levels and low estrogen. In these specific cases, relying on birth control might actually end up making fertility issues even worse.

What this means in practical terms is that any young woman or adult should undergo a thorough check-up—including a pelvic ultrasound—before being prescribed oral contraceptives, just to rule out polycystic ovaries. Hormonal blood work can also be incredibly useful. One should absolutely avoid self-prescribing or taking these without a consultation from a doctor. I want to specifically point out Trinovum; while it may be an excellent medication for certain medical indications, using it strictly as a contraceptive can be problematic. It often blocks ovulation and the cycle too aggressively, leading to periods that are excessively light or, in some cases, stopping altogether.

Birth control can actually help with fertility since cysts can end up damaging the ovaries. Taking the pill helps shrink them or prevents them from bursting during your period. Unfortunately, there’s no permanent cure for PCOS in modern medicine, but you can take the pill until you’re ready to try for a baby, then stop. Often, once you stop, both ovaries start functioning together again, releasing an egg each time, which can actually improve your chances of conceiving.
So, any woman dealing with PCOS who wants kids should probably be on the pill.
That’s what I do, and my cysts are fine; my ovaries stay calm and ready for when it’s finally time to have a baby. 😍
Michael Palmer4 Michael Palmer4 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1370 ·
Got another question for you all, and I’m really hoping someone can talk me off the ledge here.🙂
So, today marks day three of my pill break—it’s my first time ever using them this month. Like I mentioned before, I’ve been dealing with this constant brown discharge all month long, and honestly, it just won’t quit... and now I’m starting to get this sinking feeling that my actual period isn't going to show up at all... (which feels like it should have happened by now, right?) 😕 What happens if my period just stays MIA? Do I just finish this break normally and start back up with the next pack as scheduled, or what?!!
The manual says that if you don't get your period, there’s only a small chance you could be pregnant (assuming everything was taken perfectly), and that you shouldn't even bother seeing an OB-GYN unless you miss two cycles in a row. 🙄 But whatever, I’m still freaking out because I’m totally new to this whole damn pill thing and I feel so clueless about it. 🤷😢
Jamie Barnes60 Jamie Barnes60 Member
30 messages
joined Oct 2008
#1371 ·
Look, for me, it usually didn't even show up until about four days after I popped the last pill—so seriously, don't go spiraling into a panic just yet.

If it still doesn't happen, though, just give your OB-GYN a call and see what they have to say.
brightbear brightbear Member
39 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1372 ·
So, my pill instructions say the period should show up on day three of the break, but for me, it’s always day four. Apparently, it depends on what time of day you actually take them... I usually take mine in the evening.
And honestly, that feeling where you "think" it isn't coming? That's just because the birth control is killing off your PMS. I was so weirded out at first by how different my cycles were—it doesn't hurt nearly as much, I don't feel like I'm barely surviving... and then suddenly, boom, it's here.
Let us know when it finally hits!
Michael Palmer4 Michael Palmer4 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1373 ·
Here it is!😁 I'm finally here! Ugh... honestly, I actually felt like I needed to show up today because my stomach has started acting up.
I’m really hoping these cramps don't decide to stick around, because that’s honestly one of the main reasons I want to start on the pill in the first place—my periods have always been absolute torture.

Okay, so one last thing (maybe this sounds a little bit... hm... silly 😁), but does this period have to wrap up during this break, or can it kind of bleed into the time when I actually start taking the pills again? If you catch my drift...

Thanks for everything so far, ladies! 👍
Jamie Barnes60 Jamie Barnes60 Member
30 messages
joined Oct 2008
#1374 ·
I honestly thought I could stretch it for just one more day before I had to crack open a new box.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1375 ·
Michael Palmer4 said:Here it is!😁 I'm finally here! Ugh... honestly, I actually felt like I needed to show up today because my stomach has started acting up.
I’m really hoping these cramps don't decide to stick around, because that’s honestly one of the main reasons I want to start on the pill in the first place—my periods have always been absolute torture.

Okay, so one last thing (maybe this sounds a little bit... hm... silly 😁), but does this period have to wrap up during this break, or can it kind of bleed into the time when I actually start taking the pills again? If you catch my drift...

Thanks for everything so far, ladies! 👍

It isn't necessary. I usually start my next pack while my cycle is still going, since mine typically lasts about five or six days.
Don't worry too much, 👍
Jeffrey Walker3 Jeffrey Walker3 Regular
261 messages
joined May 2010
#1376 ·
Michael Palmer4 said:Here it is!😁 I'm finally here! Ugh... honestly, I actually felt like I needed to show up today because my stomach has started acting up.
I’m really hoping these cramps don't decide to stick around, because that’s honestly one of the main reasons I want to start on the pill in the first place—my periods have always been absolute torture.

Okay, so one last thing (maybe this sounds a little bit... hm... silly 😁), but does this period have to wrap up during this break, or can it kind of bleed into the time when I actually start taking the pills again? If you catch my drift...

Thanks for everything so far, ladies! 👍

Don't sweat it if you're feeling pain... I went through the exact same thing! My first one was a little intense, and part of the second one too, but after that, everything was smooth sailing. 🙂
Taylor Patel7 Taylor Patel7 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1377 ·
Everything you need to know is laid out right over at www.cybermed.com—there’s this specific thread on contraception (the "must-read" topic, seriously)... It was all broken down by a gynecologist, too, which makes such a difference—I really think a lot of girls will find their answers there and finally clear up all those confusing questions about birth control...
Maria Newman2 Maria Newman2 Member
12 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1378 ·
I suppose I should join the conversation as well.... I started getting my period just before I turned ten, and it was always incredibly irregular and painful.🙄
For the most part, nothing seemed to work, so after about five or six years—meaning when I was around fifteen—my gynecologist recommended Trinovum. I made sure to take a three-month break every single year, and I kept up with that routine until 2003 when we decided we wanted to have a baby.... Naturally, I didn't conceive immediately; it actually took about six months. After being two months postpartum following my 2004 delivery, I started taking them again, though this time without any breaks.... All of my doctors were strictly against taking breaks, which I suppose makes sense, because if you've been on hormones continuously for five years and then suddenly stop... it’s quite a shock to the system. The body essentially becomes accustomed to the "artificial" balance. Anyway, I had a surgical procedure down there last month, so I had to stop taking them due to concerns regarding thrombosis, but I am planning to resume within the next two months.... I hadn't experienced any issues previously, so I am hopeful that will continue to be the case.
Best wishes to my Melli....👍
silverscout2 silverscout2 Member
19 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1379 ·
I find myself seeking some perspective here, as I am quite uncertain about how to proceed and certainly lack professional expertise in this matter.

Historically, my menstrual cycles have been highly irregular, though I never gave the issue much thought. At eighteen, I began taking Yasmin; I had been with my boyfriend for several years at the time, and we decided it was our most practical contraceptive option. It successfully regulated my cycle. I used them for two years before stopping for a few reasons—primarily because sexual activity isn't frequent since he lives in another city, and because the price of Yasmin rose significantly at $33. As a college student, even small price hikes at $33 make a substantial difference in my budget, often leaving me short on funds for medication.

Since stopping, my cycles have become incredibly erratic again, sometimes lagging by as much as two months. My doctor noted that one ovary is slightly enlarged and that there are a few small cysts present, though he assured me it wasn't anything serious. He suggested I return to Yasmin specifically to manage the irregularity. This presents a dilemma. I am hesitant to restart hormonal contraceptives when they aren't currently necessary for birth control. Does it make sense to take them solely for cycle regulation? Furthermore, could these irregular cycles lead to long-term consequences?

Additionally, following the media controversy surrounding Yasmin, I have developed a certain level of skepticism. While I recognize that journalists often sensationalize issues, it remains a concern for me. Not to mention the reaction from my parents when I first mentioned I was using those specific pills 🙄
Maria Newman2 Maria Newman2 Member
12 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1380 ·
silverscout2 said:I find myself seeking some perspective here, as I am quite uncertain about how to proceed and certainly lack professional expertise in this matter.

Historically, my menstrual cycles have been highly irregular, though I never gave the issue much thought. At eighteen, I began taking Yasmin; I had been with my boyfriend for several years at the time, and we decided it was our most practical contraceptive option. It successfully regulated my cycle. I used them for two years before stopping for a few reasons—primarily because sexual activity isn't frequent since he lives in another city, and because the price of Yasmin rose significantly at $33. As a college student, even small price hikes at $33 make a substantial difference in my budget, often leaving me short on funds for medication.

Since stopping, my cycles have become incredibly erratic again, sometimes lagging by as much as two months. My doctor noted that one ovary is slightly enlarged and that there are a few small cysts present, though he assured me it wasn't anything serious. He suggested I return to Yasmin specifically to manage the irregularity. This presents a dilemma. I am hesitant to restart hormonal contraceptives when they aren't currently necessary for birth control. Does it make sense to take them solely for cycle regulation? Furthermore, could these irregular cycles lead to long-term consequences?

Additionally, following the media controversy surrounding Yasmin, I have developed a certain level of skepticism. While I recognize that journalists often sensationalize issues, it remains a concern for me. Not to mention the reaction from my parents when I first mentioned I was using those specific pills 🙄

I suppose I might be mistaken, but is it possible that this isn't actually being posted to the recipe section?😲
Did you see what I wrote? I’ve been working on my menstrual cycle management and started taking some supplements... though I suspect Jasmin wouldn't approve of all those rumors, just like she wouldn't touch that HPV vaccine.🙄
I suppose I can only assist you when it comes to managing menstrual cycles. It is quite unpredictable, isn't it? You never truly know when it might... well, happen.

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