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Topic of the day: Is there actually a pilot on board?

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Joshua Adams3 Joshua Adams3 Newcomer
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joined May 2023
#81 ·
Benjamin Taylor90 said:D)

Leave the controversial post up (maybe edit it) to serve as a warning to others, perhaps alongside a formal moderator warning for everyone involved. You could even drop a link to some legal code if needed. You aren't a censor; you're a moderator.
Total censorship just achieves the same goal as Woke culture. It's about education and understanding, not shutting people up. ☕

As for the debate that sprouted from that post? If it isn't turning the users against each other, leave it alone. If it is, then wipe it.

☕

God, it's useless. For this guy, education won't work—not even if I handed him eighty Bibles yesterday. He’ll just keep thinking whatever he wants. His response? "I'll be careful"...
What kind of "education" are we talking about here? You can't rewire the brain of someone in their 40s or 50s.
Joshua Adams3 Joshua Adams3 Newcomer
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joined May 2023
#82 ·
I’m giving Frey 12 points from the judges
coastalwalker9 coastalwalker9 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2020
#83 ·
Walter Davis said:I mean, I don't think it's right to let racist crap or any other offensive garbage just sit there for everyone to see. A mod should just drop a clear note explaining why something got nuked and why that kind of stuff is totally unacceptable and gets you banned.

I agree. 👍

Anything that incites hatred, racism, or any form of segregation needs to be deleted.
That kind of communication shouldn't be given even an inch of space.
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active MemberOP
228 messages
joined Sep 2016
#84 ·
Joshua Adams3 said:God, it's useless. For this guy, education won't work—not even if I handed him eighty Bibles yesterday. He’ll just keep thinking whatever he wants. His response? "I'll be careful"...
What kind of "education" are we talking about here? You can't rewire the brain of someone in their 40s or 50s.

You can try. We laid everything out clearly for him. He got banned, so if he tries it again, he's gone for good. Problem solved.☕
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#85 ·
The drama is honestly the best part of this whole thing—don't you dare delete anything. We need all these screenshots to clearly show what's actually crossing the line. ☕
Benjamin Taylor90 Benjamin Taylor90 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2018
#86 ·
Nicholas King said:I have the same question for you, actually, because your wording is a bit vague: are you saying you wouldn't even delete content that violates the law? Because, if we're being honest, this stuff about the Black community falls right into that category.

On another note, I do agree that you could be a solid moderator—though, as you mentioned yourself, you might end up being a total disaster, but hey, people have off days even worse than that 🙂.

Actually, it isn't breaking any laws. 😁

Joshua Adams3 said:God, it's useless. For this guy, education won't work—not even if I handed him eighty Bibles yesterday. He’ll just keep thinking whatever he wants. His response? "I'll be careful"...
What kind of "education" are we talking about here? You can't rewire the brain of someone in their 40s or 50s.

He's not the point. It's everyone else that matters. 😁
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active MemberOP
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joined Sep 2016
#87 ·
Taylor Gonzalez79 said:The drama is honestly the best part of this whole thing—don't you dare delete anything. We need all these screenshots to clearly show what's actually crossing the line. ☕

I agree. Deleting stuff is totally unnecessary when everyone else's reaction already makes it clear how they feel about that kind of language.
Does anyone seriously think someone's going to scroll back through the chat from May 14th between 12:30 and 6:35 PM, read all those illegal posts, and suddenly decide to become a racist themselves? Or think they're in some bigoted space and get encouraged to start typing like TNT? 🤔
Maria Barnes Maria Barnes Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#88 ·
Daniel Kelly57 said:We moderated him ourselves and called out that trash behavior. Every single one of us who was in that thread stood our ground. 🤔
There’s just useless drama happening now over nothing—just people typing about what’s allowed, which is literally why this forum exists. Andy did a killer job, as per usual.
But the real kicker is that I’m the one who pulled this topic out of nowhere; if it weren't for me, nobody would even be talking about this. So yeah, consider me the ultimate shadow moderator.
P.S.: In my humble opinion, Frey would make an awesome mod, and I'm putting my vote in!🍿

Hallelujah! Finally! That’s the whole point. You all stepped up and handled the situation unanimously. You made it crystal clear that such behavior won't fly. That’s all that matters. We don't even need a moderator. This is how you should handle things from now on.

The "undeniably" problematic posts weren't left up because we let them stay. They get deleted. Otherwise, they're gone.
Alex Carter Alex Carter Newcomer
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joined Aug 2021
#89 ·
Taylor Gonzalez79 said:The drama is honestly the best part of this whole thing—don't you dare delete anything. We need all these screenshots to clearly show what's actually crossing the line. ☕

If we aren't deleting posts, then along with the screenshots, it would be useful if moderators issued public warnings to the offenders—and to those jumping in with that same obnoxious tone. They need to shift the narrative of the discussion instead of just suffocating the thread. Since some people clearly haven't read the forum rules and common sense isn't exactly their strong suit...
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active MemberOP
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joined Sep 2016
#90 ·
Alex Carter said:If we aren't deleting posts, then along with the screenshots, it would be useful if moderators issued public warnings to the offenders—and to those jumping in with that same obnoxious tone. They need to shift the narrative of the discussion instead of just suffocating the thread. Since some people clearly haven't read the forum rules and common sense isn't exactly their strong suit...

It was about the chat. It wasn't happening in a specific thread. ☕
feralmoose32 feralmoose32 Regular
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joined Nov 2018
#91 ·
Maria Barnes said:Hallelujah! Finally! That’s the whole point. You all stepped up and handled the situation unanimously. You made it crystal clear that such behavior won't fly. That’s all that matters. We don't even need a moderator. This is how you should handle things from now on.

The "undeniably" problematic posts weren't left up because we let them stay. They get deleted. Otherwise, they're gone.

In that case, we don't even need moderators at all 👋 👋 👋

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dustypilot11 dustypilot11 Member
33 messages
joined Nov 2010
#92 ·
feralmoose32 said:In that case, we don't even need moderators at all 👋 👋 👋

☕

Yeah, we do. There’s technical stuff regular users just can't handle.

But expecting someone to be on call 24/7, for free, in their own damn time? That's insane.
This is a shared space and we all use it for free.

Dragging this thread out after everything's been settled is just straight-up bloodlust disguised as being "righteous."
Alex Carter Alex Carter Newcomer
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joined Aug 2021
#93 ·
Daniel Kelly57 said:It was about the chat. It wasn't happening in a specific thread. ☕

That was just a general point, okay? I was referring to that bit about "not erasing and the cardboard."
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active MemberOP
228 messages
joined Sep 2016
#94 ·
dustypilot11 said:Yeah, we do. There’s technical stuff regular users just can't handle.

But expecting someone to be on call 24/7, for free, in their own damn time? That's insane.
This is a shared space and we all use it for free.

Dragging this thread out after everything's been settled is just straight-up bloodlust disguised as being "righteous."

🤣 You write everything so nicely, then just throw in some extra shade for good measure!🤣
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active MemberOP
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joined Sep 2016
#95 ·
Alex Carter said:That was just a general point, okay? I was referring to that bit about "not erasing and the cardboard."

When it comes to the topic of the day, it's way harder because we drift off-topic so often.
In my opinion, the mods have a much tougher job here since it's hard to moderate things properly while keeping the actual vibe of the thread alive. Managing the chat is easy.🍿
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#96 ·
feralmoose32 said:In that case, we don't even need moderators at all 👋 👋 👋

☕

Look, here is why mods actually exist:
- keeping the spam and off-topic nonsense under control
- stepping in when drama drags on too long and turns toxic or just plain boring
- giving you someone to report if some creep starts stalking you
- handing out bans for straight-up insults and nasty trolling

They aren't here to act like babysitters or moral police—that's what the people in the discussions are for.
Alex Carter Alex Carter Newcomer
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joined Aug 2021
#97 ·
Daniel Kelly57 said:When it comes to the topic of the day, it's way harder because we drift off-topic so often.
In my opinion, the mods have a much tougher job here since it's hard to moderate things properly while keeping the actual vibe of the thread alive. Managing the chat is easy.🍿

I get that—of course more things are allowed now; the atmosphere is more casual, more conversational. My point was just that a mod should probably step in and say, "Alright, you've crossed the line, that's enough." Even in the chat, that kind of intervention was needed. Well, others reacted, so fine.
dustypilot11 dustypilot11 Member
33 messages
joined Nov 2010
#98 ·
Daniel Kelly57 said:🤣 You write everything so nicely, then just throw in some extra shade for good measure!🤣

That's just my signature move. People expect it from me. 🤣
Alex Carter Alex Carter Newcomer
6 messages
joined Aug 2021
#99 ·
Taylor Gonzalez79 said:Look, here is why mods actually exist:
- keeping the spam and off-topic nonsense under control
- stepping in when drama drags on too long and turns toxic or just plain boring
- giving you someone to report if some creep starts stalking you
- handing out bans for straight-up insults and nasty trolling

They aren't here to act like babysitters or moral police—that's what the people in the discussions are for.

You’d probably be great in that role too, honestly. Same goes for casualcanyon3 and English Oak, if you ask me.
Joshua Adams3 Joshua Adams3 Newcomer
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#100 ·
Alex Carter said:You’d probably be great in that role too, honestly. Same goes for casualcanyon3 and English Oak, if you ask me.

True, but I'd be banned the second someone brings up Eurovision 🤣

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