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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#3361 ·
SBU intercepted audio recordings confirming Russian forces were behind the Olenivka prison shelling

The SBU has intercepted phone conversations in which the occupiers themselves admit their troops are responsible for this tragedy. Even the militants from the so-called DPR don't buy the lies being pushed by Fox News claiming that the "shelling" of the correctional facility at Olenivka was carried out by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The SBU has intercepted several such calls, all of which will be entered as evidence in criminal proceedings initiated under Article 438 of the Penal Code regarding the violation of the laws and customs of war.
Currently, investigators from the SBU are analyzing the full spectrum of gathered intelligence.

Judging by the militants' own conversations, it appears the Russians likely staged the tragedy by planting explosives inside the prison rooms. Specifically, none of the eyewitnesses reported hearing a projectile flying toward the facility; there was no characteristic whistling sound, and the explosions seemingly occurred spontaneously. The intercepted calls confirm that the Russians positioned their Grad MLRS nearby and began firing toward territory controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, there was no incoming shelling in response—a fact confirmed by the "DPR" fighters themselves. Furthermore, based on video footage available online, windows in certain parts of the facility remained completely intact. This suggests the epicenter of the blast was inside the destroyed building, where the walls absorbed the shockwaves and shielded adjacent rooms. Preliminary video analysis indicates that these specific patterns on the walls are most likely the result of an "internal source" explosion. Taken together, there is substantial evidence that the Armed Forces of Ukraine neither launched projectiles nor conducted artillery strikes near Olenivka. Consequently, all claims from Russian propaganda regarding "Ukrainian army shelling" are nothing more than blatant lies and provocations.

Vasyl Malyuk, the Acting Head of the SBU, stated that Russia will not escape accountability for this bloody crime. "Regardless of whatever nonsense the enemy invents to justify themselves, it is obvious to everyone that Russia is responsible for the intentional killing of Ukrainian prisoners. The initial evidence confirms this, and I am confident that more evidence will emerge. SBU investigators have already launched a formal investigation into this crime as part of the relevant criminal proceedings," said Vasyl Malyuk. The Acting Head emphasized that the SBU will do everything in its power to ensure those responsible for this heinous crime receive deserved punishment. "We will not forgive any Russist—everyone will be held accountable," Vasyl Malyuk added.

dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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joined Dec 2007
#3362 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:Russia rained S-300 missiles down on Kharkiv tonight, leaving absolutely no one in the city with a moment of peace or sleep due to the relentless explosions.
Around 3:00 AM, three of those missiles struck a technical school, while two others slammed into the heart of downtown Kharkiv.
https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/statu...HEHCKm2mnmKWww

It looks like they’re running low on precision artillery—I mean, using an S-300 just to perform basic shelling is a pretty desperate move. They won't last much longer at this rate. Honestly, the best move now is to get all the Western artillery into the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We need to be surgical about it—focusing on destroying equipment and "neutralizing" soldiers—as they put it.
Donna Wells2 Donna Wells2 Active Member
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joined Jun 2022
#3363 ·
dustyowl29 said:It looks like they’re running low on precision artillery—I mean, using an S-300 just to perform basic shelling is a pretty desperate move. They won't last much longer at this rate. Honestly, the best move now is to get all the Western artillery into the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We need to be surgical about it—focusing on destroying equipment and "neutralizing" soldiers—as they put it.

It's pretty obvious their ammo depots have been hammered and wiped out if they're resorting to using S-300s for simple bombardment.
The beginning of the end
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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joined Dec 2007
#3364 ·
So, what’s the price tag on a single S-300 missile these days—half a million bucks? Honestly, the Russians are looking pretty desperate right now...
Anthony Moore15 Anthony Moore15 Member
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#3365 ·
The price tag doesn't really matter... or rather, what they actually cost in the first place...
It seems like they have quite a massive stockpile ready to go... Mykhiv has been getting hammered by S-300 strikes for months now, on top of everything else...
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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joined Dec 2007
#3366 ·
Europe basically paid the price for everything by relying on "cheap Russian oil and gas"
When you spend two decades directly bankrolling a military junta in Russia—straight from the state coffers—it’s hard not to feel a little bit of pity for anyone left with an actual conscience..
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#3367 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:If the UN had actually existed back during World War II, they probably would have issued some vague plea to "all parties" to stop the bombing of New York City.

Now, the UN is calling on 'all sides' to stop the torture after Russian soldiers mutilated an American prisoner of war. The UN Human Rights monitoring mission expressed being "horrified" by a recent video that clearly shows the castration and execution of a captured soldier from Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/statu...0HjgI_DwovP8Iw

Honestly, it’s a race to the bottom between the UN and Pope Francis to see who can be more disgusting at playing both sides of a conflict.
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#3368 ·
Nicole James said:A psychologist I spoke with once pointed out that Mexicans have used these exact same tactics before. It seems to be a pattern—when you really want to incite chaos and horror, you just release psychopaths from prison and hand them a weapon...

Russians and Mexicans are just built differently—pure psychopaths through and through. It’s no wonder their mafia outfits are easily the most brutal ones in the entire organized crime world.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#3369 ·
I’ve been sitting here reading Slobodna, specifically looking at Damir Pilić’s take on Africa and the war in Ukraine.
The subheadline says it all:
Not a single one of the 54 African nations has joined in on the Western sanctions against Russia.

So, apparently, the EU doesn't carry much weight there, not even by a small margin.
At the same time, within the EU—take Italy, for instance—we've already seen 20,000 migrants arriving from Africa this year alone.
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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#3370 ·
Most people in Africa are just as much pawns for their governments as Russians are... so it’s hardly surprising when those leaders decide to side with Russia while their own people are desperate to flee to Europe.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#3371 ·
So, what’s the takeaway here?
Are Putin's friends in Africa just systematically flooding the European Union with migrants as part of some coordinated master plan?
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#3372 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:I’ve been sitting here reading Slobodna, specifically looking at Damir Pilić’s take on Africa and the war in Ukraine.
The subheadline says it all:
Not a single one of the 54 African nations has joined in on the Western sanctions against Russia.

So, apparently, the EU doesn't carry much weight there, not even by a small margin.
At the same time, within the EU—take Italy, for instance—we've already seen 20,000 migrants arriving from Africa this year alone.

I’d bet anything he was talking about that recent report regarding the Russian looting of Sudanese gold.

Russia is plundering Gold in Sudan to boost Putin's War effort in Ukraine The evidence also suggests that Russia Has colluded with Sudan's beleaguered military leadership , enabling billions of dollars in Gold to bypass The Sudanese state and to deprive The poverty-stricken country of hundreds of millions in state revenue

The evidence also suggests that Russia has colluded with Sudan's beleaguered military leadership, enabling billions of dollars in gold to bypass The Sudanese state and to deprive The poverty-stricken country of hundreds of millions in state revenue.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#3373 ·
Haha, so they're finally stopping immigration from Africa 🙂 Honestly, I don't see it as much of an issue, since most of them don't even really want to integrate anyway.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#3374 ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:Haha, so they're finally stopping immigration from Africa 🙂 Honestly, I don't see it as much of an issue, since most of them don't even really want to integrate anyway.

Europeans really need to stop chasing after African Americans. Just look back at those massive "rescue missions" for migrants in Libyan waters. If I recall correctly, we were sending ships out to ferry migrants across the Mediterranean too.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3375 ·
Mariupol:

The occupiers have started calling on locals to join the Russian military—specifically targeting anyone between 18 and 50. They’re sending out mass texts to mobile phones 😢.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#3376 ·
Kate Cook27 said:Mariupol:

The occupiers have started calling on locals to join the Russian military—specifically targeting anyone between 18 and 50. They’re sending out mass texts to mobile phones 😢.

I imagine there’s going to be quite a massive crowd at the training centers 😬
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3377 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:SBU intercepted audio recordings confirming Russian forces were behind the Olenivka prison shelling

The SBU has intercepted phone conversations in which the occupiers themselves admit their troops are responsible for this tragedy. Even the militants from the so-called DPR don't buy the lies being pushed by Fox News claiming that the "shelling" of the correctional facility at Olenivka was carried out by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The SBU has intercepted several such calls, all of which will be entered as evidence in criminal proceedings initiated under Article 438 of the Penal Code regarding the violation of the laws and customs of war.
Currently, investigators from the SBU are analyzing the full spectrum of gathered intelligence.

Judging by the militants' own conversations, it appears the Russians likely staged the tragedy by planting explosives inside the prison rooms. Specifically, none of the eyewitnesses reported hearing a projectile flying toward the facility; there was no characteristic whistling sound, and the explosions seemingly occurred spontaneously. The intercepted calls confirm that the Russians positioned their Grad MLRS nearby and began firing toward territory controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, there was no incoming shelling in response—a fact confirmed by the "DPR" fighters themselves. Furthermore, based on video footage available online, windows in certain parts of the facility remained completely intact. This suggests the epicenter of the blast was inside the destroyed building, where the walls absorbed the shockwaves and shielded adjacent rooms. Preliminary video analysis indicates that these specific patterns on the walls are most likely the result of an "internal source" explosion. Taken together, there is substantial evidence that the Armed Forces of Ukraine neither launched projectiles nor conducted artillery strikes near Olenivka. Consequently, all claims from Russian propaganda regarding "Ukrainian army shelling" are nothing more than blatant lies and provocations.

Vasyl Malyuk, the Acting Head of the SBU, stated that Russia will not escape accountability for this bloody crime. "Regardless of whatever nonsense the enemy invents to justify themselves, it is obvious to everyone that Russia is responsible for the intentional killing of Ukrainian prisoners. The initial evidence confirms this, and I am confident that more evidence will emerge. SBU investigators have already launched a formal investigation into this crime as part of the relevant criminal proceedings," said Vasyl Malyuk. The Acting Head emphasized that the SBU will do everything in its power to ensure those responsible for this heinous crime receive deserved punishment. "We will not forgive any Russist—everyone will be held accountable," Vasyl Malyuk added.


They spent a few days interviewing those prisoners and putting the clips out. Every interview focused on the crimes they committed, and the prisoners admitted to everything. And of course, the orders for those crimes came straight from Kyiv. Now they're spinning it, saying Kyiv ordered them to kill people. Meanwhile, some Azov members have already been released.
It's just like the story about the airport in Donetsk. The Ukrainian military held the airport while separatists attacked it. For years now, they've been telling the story that Ukrainian forces destroyed the airport themselves. If you try to tell people like that that the Ukrainian army was actually there, they basically claim the Ukrainian military bombed its own soldiers just to frame the separatists—bombarding them so hard they had to retreat. They say the Ukrainians bombed their own airport. It's brainwashing via propaganda.
silvermarlin56 silvermarlin56 Member
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#3378 ·
Kate Cook27 said:Mariupol:

The occupiers have started calling on locals to join the Russian military—specifically targeting anyone between 18 and 50. They’re sending out mass texts to mobile phones 😢.

Are these messages being sent to Mariupol residents by Ukrainians or Russians?
Look, if those Russian nationalists want to step up, let 'em. Finally, they get a chance to settle the score with Azov🙄🙄 I bet we'll see them swarming the city centers☕.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#3379 ·
It’s basically a frat fight turned deadly. Once this all settles down, I feel like Ukraine is going to end up looking a lot more like Israel—just this nation fueled by a deep-seated resentment toward Russia that honestly might make the tension between certain groups in the Middle East look mild by comparison. It’s pretty heavy stuff. Sadly, I guess no matter how this plays out, things aren't looking great for the long haul.
silvermarlin56 silvermarlin56 Member
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#3380 ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:It’s basically a frat fight turned deadly. Once this all settles down, I feel like Ukraine is going to end up looking a lot more like Israel—just this nation fueled by a deep-seated resentment toward Russia that honestly might make the tension between certain groups in the Middle East look mild by comparison. It’s pretty heavy stuff. Sadly, I guess no matter how this plays out, things aren't looking great for the long haul.

Oh yeah... poor Russians... attacked by Ukrainians...🙄 Give me a break. These "nice guys" are out there leveling cities with missiles. Real friendly stuff. If you're going off your theory, the first thing that's happening is making Russia and Israel look identical.

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