Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Melissa Rivera5 said:It’s basically a frat fight turned deadly. Once this all settles down, I feel like Ukraine is going to end up looking a lot more like Israel—just this nation fueled by a deep-seated resentment toward Russia that honestly might make the tension between certain groups in the Middle East look mild by comparison. It’s pretty heavy stuff. Sadly, I guess no matter how this plays out, things aren't looking great for the long haul.

That's assuming the Russians don't end up in a mass exodus like the Mexicans did back in '95.

rowdytiger13 said:And generally speaking, murderers.
That’s why the French Foreign Legion used to be such a force to be reckoned with. Apparently, they don't take in people accused of violent felonies anymore... supposedly.
I read somewhere that these were Chechens. Not sure if that's been officially confirmed yet...

Classic. Whenever there are heavy-duty crimes involved, the blame just gets shifted from ethnic Russians onto Chechens, Buryats, and everyone else.

But nah, Russians aren't racists. I guess. 😁

Anthony Taylor393 said:Classic. Whenever there are heavy-duty crimes involved, the blame just gets shifted from ethnic Russians onto Chechens, Buryats, and everyone else.

But nah, Russians aren't racists. I guess. 😁

The brave Russian takeover of Berlin in 1945.

The Polish massacre in Katyn—all thanks to that evil Joseph Stalin...

Anthony Taylor393 said:Classic. Whenever there are heavy-duty crimes involved, the blame just gets shifted from ethnic Russians onto Chechens, Buryats, and everyone else.

But nah, Russians aren't racists. I guess. 😁

No, I'm certainly not, my wife isn't either, and don't even get me started on our parents and grandparents. 🤷
My apologies. 🤷

So, I just noticed something pretty wild happening over in Sevastopol in Crimea—they’ve actually started painting arrows on buildings to point people toward the nearest shelters. Up until now, you haven't seen any of that stuff around there. It looks like Russia is clearly bracing itself and expecting a Ukrainian strike.

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/...eAlQr1c2jAMp7Q

Jessica Peterson2 said:No, I'm certainly not, my wife isn't either, and don't even get me started on our parents and grandparents. 🤷
My apologies. 🤷

I never said EVERYONE was a racist.

Russia has called on the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the bombing of a prisoner camp.

https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-rus...cross-ukraine/

shadowbison15 said:Russia has called on the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the bombing of a prisoner camp.

https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-rus...cross-ukraine/

Heard they’re gonna ask the UN to look into the bombings in Ukraine too—claims they're basically bombing themselves.
Seriously though, how many Russians actually died in that camp bombing?

Melissa Rivera5 said:It’s basically a frat fight turned deadly. Once this all settles down, I feel like Ukraine is going to end up looking a lot more like Israel—just this nation fueled by a deep-seated resentment toward Russia that honestly might make the tension between certain groups in the Middle East look mild by comparison. It’s pretty heavy stuff. Sadly, I guess no matter how this plays out, things aren't looking great for the long haul.

I’ve heard that before, and frankly, I don't buy it. If you ask me, this current conflict isn't going anywhere fast; we are looking at years of attrition, likely a decade at least. We have to remember that this struggle has effectively been raging for eight years already, and it won't reach a resolution until the fight is brought directly onto Russian soil and their entire system finally collapses under its own weight.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy played it perfectly back in March when he threw that challenge directly at Vladimir Putin, essentially telling him, "Look, I'm handing you a window here—take it, and save Russia from itself."

shadowbison15 said:Russia has called on the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the bombing of a prisoner camp.

https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-rus...cross-ukraine/

It is already common knowledge that the camp was torched under the direct orders of a Chechen commander; there wasn't some stray bomb or an accidental strike that leveled the place.

It’s almost comical to watch, but honestly, it serves as a perfect lesson for Vladimir Putin on exactly how naive the United Nations and the Red Cross really are whenever they find themselves dealing with the Russians.

silvermarlin56 said:Are these messages being sent to Mariupol residents by Ukrainians or Russians?
Look, if those Russian nationalists want to step up, let 'em. Finally, they get a chance to settle the score with Azov🙄🙄 I bet we'll see them swarming the city centers☕.

They're messaging plenty of people, regardless of where they're from. At the end of the day, they're all Russians—some have just been misled 😁.

Meanwhile, Dejan Berić posted on his channel that some retribution was carried out against the Britons. You won't see much about it in the mainstream media, though. He mentioned the other mercenaries are just waiting for their trials, and he doesn't doubt they'll face the same fate. Of course, in the Donetsk People's Republic, there's no such thing as an actual investigation—once you're accused, you're guilty.

Nathan Thomas12 said:Heard they’re gonna ask the UN to look into the bombings in Ukraine too—claims they're basically bombing themselves.
Seriously though, how many Russians actually died in that camp bombing?

According to Morozov, a local DNR journalist—lucky coincidence, right?—not a single Russian guard was even wounded, let alone killed. She’s claiming the Ukrainian authorities knew the prisoners were there, but cynically decided to take out their own soldiers instead. Per her account, 50 Azov fighters were killed and 70 were wounded.

Zelenskyy has ordered a mandatory evacuation for Donetsk: "Civilians will be compensated"
"The more people who leave Donetsk now, the fewer people the Russians will have time to kill"

☕

So, there it is. Even though most of the world already "knows" that Russ has wiped out the Azov forces, the Pentagon still isn't 100% certain about the details...

SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIAL: I don't know that we can say definitively about any of it. I -- but, you know, what I will -- and listen, I haven't seen all of the reporting but I am told that the Russians, you know, have made claims that they have pieces of HIMARS that were used in the strike. Listen, the Russians have a lot of pieces of HIMARS, right?

I mean, the Americans have been, you know, sending a lot of HIMARS their way. So that would not surprise me. What would also not surprise me is if the Russians would -- would lead us astray, in terms of information, and tell us that the Americans had done this.

Here’s the last thing I'd say, if it happened to be an American strike, I promise you, number one, they didn't mean to do that, right? They certainly care about their own people and they care about the civilians and military in uniform of their own army.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcr...ound-briefing/

Why the sudden "If"? 🤔

brightheron64 said:So, there it is. Even though most of the world already "knows" that Russ has wiped out the Azov forces, the Pentagon still isn't 100% certain about the details...

SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIAL: I don't know that we can say definitively about any of it. I -- but, you know, what I will -- and listen, I haven't seen all of the reporting but I am told that the Russians, you know, have made claims that they have pieces of HIMARS that were used in the strike. Listen, the Russians have a lot of pieces of HIMARS, right?

I mean, the Americans have been, you know, sending a lot of HIMARS their way. So that would not surprise me. What would also not surprise me is if the Russians would -- would lead us astray, in terms of information, and tell us that the Americans had done this.

Here’s the last thing I'd say, if it happened to be an American strike, I promise you, number one, they didn't mean to do that, right? They certainly care about their own people and they care about the civilians and military in uniform of their own army.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcr...ound-briefing/

Why the sudden "If"? 🤔

Look, the higher-ups never release info unless they are 100% certain. It's just how it works. Even regarding Moscow, they didn't claim it was heading straight for the bottom of the Black Sea; they just said, based on their assessment, that it's damaged and drifting toward Sevastopol.

Kate Lewis3 said:Look, the higher-ups never release info unless they are 100% certain. It's just how it works. Even regarding Moscow, they didn't claim it was heading straight for the bottom of the Black Sea; they just said, based on their assessment, that it's damaged and drifting toward Sevastopol.

Really?

Moscow... well, it was moving (even if just a hundred meters) right up until the moment it sank. 😁

But, since we're discussing this particular incident, I honestly find it hard to believe that the Azov troops would be considered such valuable bargaining chips for the Russians that they'd risk liquidating them in such a clumsy, senseless way.
And even if that were actually the goal, there are much more efficient and logical scenarios to consider, ranging from staging a "mutiny and attempted escape" to other possibilities...

The media coverage surrounding this war is always quite fascinating to watch, especially when you see headlines like:
"Russians strike school in Kharkiv, shell residential neighborhoods"
"We hit a Russian ammunition depot"

The reverse scenario never seems to happen—it's simply not possible... or is it?

brightheron64 said:Really?

Moscow... well, it was moving (even if just a hundred meters) right up until the moment it sank. 😁

But, since we're discussing this particular incident, I honestly find it hard to believe that the Azov troops would be considered such valuable bargaining chips for the Russians that they'd risk liquidating them in such a clumsy, senseless way.
And even if that were actually the goal, there are much more efficient and logical scenarios to consider, ranging from staging a "mutiny and attempted escape" to other possibilities...

The media coverage surrounding this war is always quite fascinating to watch, especially when you see headlines like:
"Russians strike school in Kharkiv, shell residential neighborhoods"
"We hit a Russian ammunition depot"

The reverse scenario never seems to happen—it's simply not possible... or is it?

Yeah ☕

https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/stat...14530430984192

brightheron64 said:So, there it is. Even though most of the world already "knows" that Russ has wiped out the Azov forces, the Pentagon still isn't 100% certain about the details...

SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIAL: I don't know that we can say definitively about any of it. I -- but, you know, what I will -- and listen, I haven't seen all of the reporting but I am told that the Russians, you know, have made claims that they have pieces of HIMARS that were used in the strike. Listen, the Russians have a lot of pieces of HIMARS, right?

I mean, the Americans have been, you know, sending a lot of HIMARS their way. So that would not surprise me. What would also not surprise me is if the Russians would -- would lead us astray, in terms of information, and tell us that the Americans had done this.

Here’s the last thing I'd say, if it happened to be an American strike, I promise you, number one, they didn't mean to do that, right? They certainly care about their own people and they care about the civilians and military in uniform of their own army.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcr...ound-briefing/

Why the sudden "If"? 🤔

Honestly, why even use the word "if"?
Any supporter of the Russian regime will undoubtedly insist that the Ukrainians were the ones who bombed those prisoners.
There isn't even a shred of doubt about it.

brightheron64 said:Really?

Moscow... well, it was moving (even if just a hundred meters) right up until the moment it sank. 😁

But, since we're discussing this particular incident, I honestly find it hard to believe that the Azov troops would be considered such valuable bargaining chips for the Russians that they'd risk liquidating them in such a clumsy, senseless way.
And even if that were actually the goal, there are much more efficient and logical scenarios to consider, ranging from staging a "mutiny and attempted escape" to other possibilities...

The media coverage surrounding this war is always quite fascinating to watch, especially when you see headlines like:
"Russians strike school in Kharkiv, shell residential neighborhoods"
"We hit a Russian ammunition depot"

The reverse scenario never seems to happen—it's simply not possible... or is it?

Based on the available footage from Oleynivka, what would your conclusion be?

Christian Torres3 said:Based on the available footage from Oleynivka, what would your conclusion be?

It looks like friendly fire, or perhaps just a target that was misidentified from the start...

Murphy's Military Laws
- The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire.

brightheron64 said:It looks like friendly fire, or perhaps just a target that was misidentified from the start...

Murphy's Military Laws
- The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire.

Aren't you actually embarrassed to be taking the Russ's side like this?

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/...2ky8hvzGnf-BiA

https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/...2ky8hvzGnf-BiA