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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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shadowbison15 shadowbison15 Member
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#4421 ·
rowdytiger13 said:I wouldn't, mainly because it's impractical and frankly idiotic.
Ukraine can't afford to burn through resources like that. Using Western-trained saboteurs against targets inside Ukraine itself is just too much.
No matter how much of a headache Dugin or his daughter might be, he isn't some general on the front lines. He’s an ideologue sitting safely back in Russia. It's far too risky for very little gain beyond a bit of moral satisfaction. That’s not how you run a war. Cold, sure, but not like this.

I agree, but then how do you explain all those massive fires and explosions happening inside Russia itself?

I mean, if someone keeps walking around acting like a sitting duck, what else should we expect?
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#4422 ·
shadowbison15 said:I agree, but then how do you explain all those massive fires and explosions happening inside Russia itself?

I mean, if someone keeps walking around acting like a sitting duck, what else should we expect?

If we're really looking at Ukrainian saboteurs being behind this, then all I can say is:
They certainly know how to dress the part—hats off to them! 🙏
shadowbison15 shadowbison15 Member
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#4423 ·
It’s what you’d call a “soft target”—easier to hit than the heavy hitters, but it still sends a message. That said, this one felt like a total setup; I don't buy for a second that she was actually the intended target.

Look, I’m not insisting it was the Ukrainians. Anything can happen inside Russia, and maybe someone is just seizing the moment. But they’re definitely the first ones I’d suspect.
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#4424 ·
shadowbison15 said:It’s what you’d call a “soft target”—easier to hit than the heavy hitters, but it still sends a message. That said, this one felt like a total setup; I don't buy for a second that she was actually the intended target.

Look, I’m not insisting it was the Ukrainians. Anything can happen inside Russia, and maybe someone is just seizing the moment. But they’re definitely the first ones I’d suspect.

Not me.
If an ammo dump or some military facility had blown up, I’d be certain it was Ukrainians.
If it were a general or something similar... then I'd have my doubts.
The way it happened, I highly doubt it was Ukrainians. If I had to put money on it, I'd bet on an internal power struggle.
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2020
#4425 ·
shadowbison15 said:I agree, but then how do you explain all those massive fires and explosions happening inside Russia itself?

I mean, if someone keeps walking around acting like a sitting duck, what else should we expect?

Same old ducks that were running things on the battleship Potemkin back in 1905.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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joined Aug 2013
#4426 ·
pronto2 said:It’s just the Russians hitting themselves in the Donbas. I can't believe some of the stuff you read here—it's like everyone's brain has been totally fried...

They didn't hit themselves—they hit Ukrainians.
crimsongull28 crimsongull28 Newcomer
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#4427 ·
Ukrainian security chief found deadhttps://mondo.rs/Info/Svet/a1678363/...jen-mrtav.html

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It looks like Russia is starting to look like a gift to Dugin. Denis Pushilin is pointing the finger at Kyiv for the assassination of Dugina—and let's be real, he’s basically Putin's unofficial spokesperson alongside Kadyrov.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#4428 ·
goldenowl73 said:The Russian “National Republication Army” claims responsibility for the killing of Alexander Dugin’s daughter

BREAKING: So, I was just scrolling through my feed and saw this crazy news—there's a video up on YouTube right now where a group calling themselves the Russian “National Republication Army” is actually stepping up and claiming they were behind that car bombing that took the life of ultra-nationalist Alexander Dugin's daughter. It's absolutely wild how fast things move these days, isn't it?

https://t.co/xzgIiYkxQ5 https://t.co/vdO3H4FJHE

Is there going to be a celebration in Russia? I wonder if they’ve already put Lenin on display in a train carriage.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#4429 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:The FBI? They're just inventing extra enemies so brave Putin can protect the people.

It’s like playing with fire—once things start spreading, it becomes a hell of a lot harder to put them out.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#4430 ·
Melissa Gray2 said:Look, you could have been hanging out in Lviv without actually ever stepping foot on the front lines. It makes total sense that people fleeing to Lviv would pick up the language—they’re gonna need it to survive, right? Besides, if they started claiming they loved Russia, everyone would immediately flag them as foreign agents anyway... wouldn't they?
Back in Mykolaiv, things got pretty intense, with tons of locals getting detained just because people suspected they were leaking info.
Who knows how many "suspicious" folks have been taken out in those cities while the mainstream media stays completely silent about it...

All of this is thanks to the Russians—specifically Putin and his fascist regime. If they hadn't stayed hunkered down in their own country, the people in Ukraine would be living peaceful lives, going to work, and heading home to their families like normal.
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4431 ·
So, I was just catching up with some folks over in Kyiv, and man, the vibe is heavy right now. Everyone there is bracing for a massive wave of bombing coming next week—specifically looking at Tuesday and Wednesday as the big danger zones. Some families have already packed up and sent their kids and wives off toward the West, though even out there, people are saying nowhere is truly safe anymore.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4432 ·
😢
goldenowl73 said:So, I was just catching up with some folks over in Kyiv, and man, the vibe is heavy right now. Everyone there is bracing for a massive wave of bombing coming next week—specifically looking at Tuesday and Wednesday as the big danger zones. Some families have already packed up and sent their kids and wives off toward the West, though even out there, people are saying nowhere is truly safe anymore.

😢.
How's your family doing in Kyiv? There's this big expected strike coming up on August 24th. Preparations are already underway—they've closed the airspace, there’s a ton of military movement, and apparently, things are looking just as ready over in Belarus. They're expecting Russia to throw everything they've got at them.
On the flip side, the Russian troops on the ground are also anticipating that Ukraine might launch an offensive around then. I’m really hoping none of this actually happens. We'll just have to wait and see.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4433 ·
Melissa Gray2 said:Look, you could have been hanging out in Lviv without actually ever stepping foot on the front lines. It makes total sense that people fleeing to Lviv would pick up the language—they’re gonna need it to survive, right? Besides, if they started claiming they loved Russia, everyone would immediately flag them as foreign agents anyway... wouldn't they?
Back in Mykolaiv, things got pretty intense, with tons of locals getting detained just because people suspected they were leaking info.
Who knows how many "suspicious" folks have been taken out in those cities while the mainstream media stays completely silent about it...

Yeah, I was in Donbas. Most people don't want to speak Russian anymore since it feels like the language of the enemy.
There are plenty of traitors out there—people signing up on websites to help the Russians, total traitors. They can always just run back to Russia if they want.
Unfortunately, the cost of this war is just incredibly high.
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#4434 ·
crimsongull28 said:Ukrainian security chief found deadhttps://mondo.rs/Info/Svet/a1678363/...jen-mrtav.html

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It looks like Russia is starting to look like a gift to Dugin. Denis Pushilin is pointing the finger at Kyiv for the assassination of Dugina—and let's be real, he’s basically Putin's unofficial spokesperson alongside Kadyrov.

Probably didn't happen then. ☕

crimsongull28 said:Ukrainian security chief found deadhttps://mondo.rs/Info/Svet/a1678363/...jen-mrtav.html

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It looks like Russia is starting to look like a gift to Dugin. Denis Pushilin is pointing the finger at Kyiv for the assassination of Dugina—and let's be real, he’s basically Putin's unofficial spokesperson alongside Kadyrov.

Typical tabloid trash. 🙄

He wasn't the "head of Ukrainian security," just the chief of the Kirovograd Oblast Security Service..
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4435 ·
Dennis Price said:Some faction within the FBI is playing the anti-war card just because it doesn't suit their own interests—honestly, it’s probably just some radical students running amok, if you ask me.

I'm leaning toward that being the most likely scenario too—just some group within the FBI.
If the Ukrainians are actually at fault, I have my suspicions about one particular group, though I highly doubt it’s them right now. We'll just have to wait and see how this plays out.
Megan Thomas5 Megan Thomas5 Active Member
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#4436 ·
So where exactly are the Russians going to hit Kyiv? They can bomb it, sure, but that’s about all they can do... honestly, they just talk a big game. And if Belarus actually gets involved in this war? That would be a total joke—it’d be like the US was at war and we decided to send our military over to help them.😁Okay, even worse, Belarus is even more incompetent than we are.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#4437 ·
Everyone was hyping up a massive spectacle for Victory Day, but nothing actually happened. It seems like Russia's top priority right now is just survival. While they struggle to hold onto a few small towns, their rear lines are falling apart. The whole thing is going under before it even breaks.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4438 ·
cosmicgull52 said:Everyone was hyping up a massive spectacle for Victory Day, but nothing actually happened. It seems like Russia's top priority right now is just survival. While they struggle to hold onto a few small towns, their rear lines are falling apart. The whole thing is going under before it even breaks.

I’m kind of hoping for the same thing—that nothing actually happens. Just a lot of noise on both sides. Everyone is bracing for an attack, waiting for the big move, but then... silence.
James Chavez91 James Chavez91 Active Member
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#4439 ·
I’m honestly curious how that crowd feels now when they hop in the car to go for a drive... sitting there feeling the heat. 🤣
If they mentioned Dugin, I guess someone might be feeling a bit of smoke in their eyes over the next few days.
As for Putin and his little cronies—well, they better pray that the Ukrainians are behind this. If it’s actually their own people, then they are in deep trouble...

By the way, has anyone bothered to ask Dugina's other side how he's doing? You know, checking in to see if he's on the verge of tears or whatever...?
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
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#4440 ·
William Cooper11 said:I still have a hunch that this assassination was orchestrated by one of those oligarchs who's absolutely fed up with Putin's war—someone whose entire lifestyle and future plans just went down the drain because of all the sanctions.
The target, if you ask me, was definitely Alexander Dugin.

Given how many oligarchs Putko has eliminated over the last six months, I wouldn't be surprised if some decided to take matters into their own hands rather than waiting around to see if they are next on the execution list.

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