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Arming Ukraine

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darkrider55 darkrider55 Active Member
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#801 ·
velvetbadger11 said:Perhaps we could offer something of our own in exchange for something else 🤔

Look, all we really have to work with is the M1 Abrams and some M109 Paladins. 😁
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#802 ·
Facing backlash, Germany signals willingness to ship heavy weapons

1:49pm: Feeling the heat from critics, Germany indicates they're open to providing heavy weapons to Ukraine
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#803 ·
Spanish PM Sanchez is currently visiting Kyiv:
''This is the largest shipment we've ever sent from Spain.
It's already en route to a port in Poland''

Sanchez confirmed the supplies are heading toward a Polish port via the logistics vessel Ysabel, carrying 200 tons of ammunition and military gear, including 30 trucks and 10 light vehicles.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#804 ·
Belgium is getting ready to ship out some artillery and armored vehicles
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...yCP3jyzDA&s=19

And hey, looking at what's being said, there's even talk that Canada might be sending tanks over too
velvetbadger11 velvetbadger11 Member
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#805 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Belgium is getting ready to ship out some artillery and armored vehicles
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...yCP3jyzDA&s=19

And hey, looking at what's being said, there's even talk that Canada might be sending tanks over too

And honestly, we should probably look into getting some Leopards to replace our old M1 Abrams units.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#806 ·
Department of Defense:
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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joined Feb 2024
#807 ·
Joe Biden: "Speak softly and carry a Big Javelin"
So, we’re looking at yet another massive $800 million aid package hitting the table, which includes more howitzers, about 144k rounds of ammo, tactical drones, and plenty of Javelins... just keeping the momentum going.
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/...u4ruHH5gQ&s=19
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#808 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Joe Biden: "Speak softly and carry a Big Javelin"
So, we’re looking at yet another massive $800 million aid package hitting the table, which includes more howitzers, about 144k rounds of ammo, tactical drones, and plenty of Javelins... just keeping the momentum going.
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/...u4ruHH5gQ&s=19

The latest American package includes:
- 72 units of 155mm howitzers
- 72 howitzer towing vehicles
- 144,000 rounds of 155mm ammunition
- Over 121 Phoenix Ghost drones... which supposedly have capabilities similar to Switchblades and were apparently fast-tracked specifically to meet the needs of Ukrainians

https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/sta...N1px0FIew&s=19
https://twitter.com/beverstine/statu...57pM7NGhA&s=19
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#809 ·
The sheer variety of hardware they're throwing together... it's going to be a logistical nightmare.
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#810 ·
Carl Lee27 said:The latest American package includes:
- 72 units of 155mm howitzers
- 72 howitzer towing vehicles
- 144,000 rounds of 155mm ammunition
- Over 121 Phoenix Ghost drones... which supposedly have capabilities similar to Switchblades and were apparently fast-tracked specifically to meet the needs of Ukrainians

https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/sta...N1px0FIew&s=19
https://twitter.com/beverstine/statu...57pM7NGhA&s=19

The sheer disparity between the strength of the United States and that of Russia speaks volumes, does it not? It is quite telling when one side struggles to even maintain its basic fleet of military trucks and standard hardware, let alone possesses the industrial capacity to manufacture anything new while actively engaged in a conflict. Is it any wonder that they recently had to shutter an entire tank factory simply because they couldn't source the necessary Western components?
fadedjackal8 fadedjackal8 Member
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#811 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:The sheer variety of hardware they're throwing together... it's going to be a logistical nightmare.

It’s gonna be an even bigger headache for Russia, though—just wait and see.😁
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#812 ·
fadedjackal8 said:It’s gonna be an even bigger headache for Russia, though—just wait and see.😁

They won't even know who or what's hitting them, though I guess that doesn't really matter much anyway🙂 😁
darkwolf20 darkwolf20 Member
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#813 ·
Zachary Jackson4 said:How much more do they need? Their military is outdated, lacking morale, and severely short on manpower.

Well, look at it this way. You can always provide them with some John Deere tractors instead. They’re perfectly reliable for evacuating people from the fields in Ukraine once everyone starts running for the hills.😉
Gerald Wood43 Gerald Wood43 Newcomer
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#814 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:The sheer variety of hardware they're throwing together... it's going to be a logistical nightmare.

It won't happen. This is a wartime footing we're talking about.
You just burn through resources and stop asking questions. We aren't in some peacetime bureaucracy where everyone obsesses over paperwork, procurement cycles, maintenance schedules, and supply chain optimization...
It’s the same way things work back home—you grab whatever is available and make it work. If it runs, you use it. If it breaks, you toss it and move on to the next thing...
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#815 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:The sheer variety of hardware they're throwing together... it's going to be a logistical nightmare.

Best used at night, especially if it's raining... and moving in small groups rather than big convoys. Rail, aviation (?)...

I see a bigger issue with the crews, the operators, and the coordination—since this means the Ukrainian military is stepping up to a whole new level of doctrine and tactics on the fly, right in the middle of combat, all while trying to hold back Putin's offensive.

Kamikaze drones (they act like little cruise missiles) seem to have found their premier moment in actual war. And honestly? They look like the future of warfare.
Melissa Bailey5 Melissa Bailey5 Active Member
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#816 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:The sheer disparity between the strength of the United States and that of Russia speaks volumes, does it not? It is quite telling when one side struggles to even maintain its basic fleet of military trucks and standard hardware, let alone possesses the industrial capacity to manufacture anything new while actively engaged in a conflict. Is it any wonder that they recently had to shutter an entire tank factory simply because they couldn't source the necessary Western components?

Well, it wasn't exactly "the other day." Actually, tomorrow marks exactly 30 days since that happened.
Melissa Bailey5 Melissa Bailey5 Active Member
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#817 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Best used at night, especially if it's raining... and moving in small groups rather than big convoys. Rail, aviation (?)...

I see a bigger issue with the crews, the operators, and the coordination—since this means the Ukrainian military is stepping up to a whole new level of doctrine and tactics on the fly, right in the middle of combat, all while trying to hold back Putin's offensive.

Kamikaze drones (they act like little cruise missiles) seem to have found their premier moment in actual war. And honestly? They look like the future of warfare.

Honestly, I'm starting to get the feeling those first 18 howitzers in the last shipment were mostly just meant for training purposes.

Kamikaze drones—they kind of act like little cruise missiles, I guess—seem to be making their big debut in actual combat conditions.And it looks like they might just be the future of warfare.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#818 ·
Melissa Bailey5 said:Honestly, I'm starting to get the feeling those first 18 howitzers in the last shipment were mostly just meant for training purposes.

Kamikaze drones—they kind of act like little cruise missiles, I guess—seem to be making their big debut in actual combat conditions.And it looks like they might just be the future of warfare.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

They’ll need to get up to speed fast.
Aiming the guns—using radar, drones... satellites.
Basically, tracking the Z orchestra in real time and space.
Melissa Bailey5 Melissa Bailey5 Active Member
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#819 ·
Melissa Bailey5 said:AeroVironment Inc. is handing over over 100 drone systems to the Department of Defense and territorial forces in Ukraine

So, this Fortune 500 leader in multi-domain intelligent robotics just announced they’re donating more than 100 Palantir drone systems along with some training services to the Department of Defense and those territorial units fighting in Ukraine against Russia right now, I guess.

Alright, I guess it’s finally getting a bit clearer what we're actually looking at here. It seems pretty much like a Switchblade to me, honestly.
So, I guess those mysterious 'Ghost Phoenix' suicide drones are finally heading over to Ukraine.

So, 121 guys are heading over to Ukraine. They're claiming it'll only take "minimal training," which I guess is one way to put it, though I wouldn't exactly hold my breath on how smooth that actually goes.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#820 ·
It looks like the Phoenix Ghost is actually a massive step up from what we were seeing before:
- It can take off vertically, which is huge
- We're talking about a 6-hour flight time—compare that to just 40 minutes for the Switchblade 600 and you see why this matters so much
- It’s got infrared sensors, so it can handle business even in total darkness
- And it's fully capable of taking out medium armored ground targets
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...vCaejZB2w&s=19

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