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Arming Ukraine

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coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#781 ·
Norway is sending 100 Mistral missiles
Melissa Bailey5 Melissa Bailey5 Active Member
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#782 ·
already sent
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#783 ·
American intelligence teams just stumbled upon a massive stash in some abandoned warehouse over in Chicago—we're talking $200 million worth of weapons, spare parts, and gear that some fifth columnists apparently looted from military depots, all set up to hand over the keys to the Russians when they roll in.
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
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#784 ·
Melissa Bailey5 said:... and Canada 👍

I find myself wondering about the actual impact here, especially since they currently lack any significant heavy artillery, possessing nothing more than those 37 M-777 pieces, right?
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#785 ·
The M109 Paladins are on their way. https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik.../28264476.html

It seems America is pulling out all the stops too, with a C-5M touching down in Russia.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#786 ·
Looks like Ukrainian forces stumbled upon a secret stash near Kharkiv filled with missiles and vehicle parts worth about $200 million.
https://defence-blog.com/tank-engine...-near-kharkiv/
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#787 ·
slyfox43 said:The M109 Paladins are on their way. https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik.../28264476.html

It seems America is pulling out all the stops too, with a C-5M touching down in Russia.

So they're getting the howitzers from the Netherlands, but the training and ammo come from Germany.
Hey, at least we're finally getting something from the Germans. ☕
darkwolf20 darkwolf20 Member
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#788 ·
coastalbison6 said:Looks like Ukrainian forces stumbled upon a secret stash near Kharkiv filled with missiles and vehicle parts worth about $200 million.
https://defence-blog.com/tank-engine...-near-kharkiv/

👍
I'm sure that will make a monumental difference for them.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#789 ·
It looks like we might be seeing some Brimstone missiles coming in from the UK soon too... they're anti-tank projectiles, and the cool part is they can actually be launched right from the ground.
https://twitter.com/theragex/status/...fhR4xo5OA&s=19
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#790 ·
Lithuania just sent over a massive shipment... I honestly can't tell if this is the grand total or just the latest round of aid they've pushed through
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...596420609?s=19
Zachary Jackson4 Zachary Jackson4 Active Member
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#791 ·
How much more do they need? Their military is outdated, lacking morale, and severely short on manpower.
velvetbadger11 velvetbadger11 Member
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#792 ·
Nobody is actually sending anything to Russia; I believe you might have misspoken there.
hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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#793 ·
George Robinson43 said:You might have forgotten this part, or perhaps you left it out on purpose—it applies to all warships belonging to belligerent Powers.
...unless we are talking about the warships of belligerent Powers returning to their home ports in the Black Sea.

All other vessels are permitted to stay in the Black Sea for up to 21 days.

Vessels of War belonging to non-Black Sea Powers shall not remain in The Black Sea more Than twenty-one Days
regardless of why they are there.
Article 19.
In time of War , Turkey not being belligerent , warships shall enjoy complete Freedom of Transit and navigation through The Straits under The same conditions as those laid down in Article 10
to 18.

Vessels of War belonging to belligerent Powers shall not however , pass through The Straits except in cases arising out of The application of Article 25 of The present Convention,

It isn't a "war," it's a "special operation."
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#794 ·
Live Updates

Canadians are sending T-72s and getting Marders in return (fingers crossed)

Washington clears way for weapon deliveries

The "red line" regarding Western weapon shipments to Ukraine has shifted since the Russian invasion began. While the US and other allies have been hesitant about heavy weaponry, there's a move toward funding these deliveries. A "swap deal" among NATO allies is being set up to get heavy gear over to Ukraine eventually.

As part of this, Canada is expected to hand over a significant number of its T-72 tanks to Ukraine, receiving German Marder infantry fighting vehicles and Fuchs wheeled armored vehicles in exchange. Word is they’ve even asked for even more modern equipment from Germany to make up the difference.

NATO partners like USA and UK decided on heavy weapons delivery only after Russian offensive. Tanks weren't initially on the list. Before this shift, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy remained "cautiously optimistic" that his requests for more heavy weapons meet understanding from partner countries.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#795 ·
coastalbison6 said:Live Updates

Canadians are sending T-72s and getting Marders in return (fingers crossed)

Washington clears way for weapon deliveries

The "red line" regarding Western weapon shipments to Ukraine has shifted since the Russian invasion began. While the US and other allies have been hesitant about heavy weaponry, there's a move toward funding these deliveries. A "swap deal" among NATO allies is being set up to get heavy gear over to Ukraine eventually.

As part of this, Canada is expected to hand over a significant number of its T-72 tanks to Ukraine, receiving German Marder infantry fighting vehicles and Fuchs wheeled armored vehicles in exchange. Word is they’ve even asked for even more modern equipment from Germany to make up the difference.

NATO partners like USA and UK decided on heavy weapons delivery only after Russian offensive. Tanks weren't initially on the list. Before this shift, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy remained "cautiously optimistic" that his requests for more heavy weapons meet understanding from partner countries.

Wait, the Canadians actually have M-84s, not T-72s... though I guess it's close enough, right?
Unless they were actually talking about the Slovaks 🤣🤣🤣
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#796 ·
Zachary Jackson4 said:How much more do they need? Their military is outdated, lacking morale, and severely short on manpower.

Even if we assume this somehow addresses the aging equipment, the shortage of troops, and the low morale, it still feels incomplete.👍
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#797 ·
Michael Flynn thinks it's time to cut off the flow of weapons and military aid to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...Qv9-pXfY-4x2jQ
velvetbadger11 velvetbadger11 Member
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#798 ·
Perhaps we could offer something of our own in exchange for something else 🤔
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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#799 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Michael Flynn thinks it's time to cut off the flow of weapons and military aid to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...Qv9-pXfY-4x2jQ

The guy who openly admitted to taking $34,000 from Russian TV (RT) is clearly an expert on anything involving the Russian invasion, isn't he? 🤣🤣
I’m honestly surprised he only had to deal with a resignation; if this were Russia, he would have gone out a window a long time ago.
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#800 ·
rowdytiger13 said:The guy who openly admitted to taking $34,000 from Russian TV (RT) is clearly an expert on anything involving the Russian invasion, isn't he? 🤣🤣
I’m honestly surprised he only had to deal with a resignation; if this were Russia, he would have gone out a window a long time ago.

What a brilliant little circle of friends we have here.☕

I am just not entirely convinced that Sergey Lavrov and Dmitry Peskov aren't tucked away in the corner enjoying the show.

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