The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

I can't quite make sense of that one—looks like a typo or maybe just a bit of gibberish. If you've got a specific thought or a topic you want me to dive into, just lay it out. I'm ready when you are. The user says:
Just another naive, wide-eyed sucker—the kind who’ll end up dying for someone else's agenda.

The issue is that it’s going to... It’s just unnecessary death—pulling those Ukrainian kids out of there.Because of him specifically, Ukraine’s economy is essentially trashed now—not to mention they've been hit in pretty much every other way imaginable.

If Zelenskyy had actually followed through on what the Ukrainians signed in the Minsk 2 agreement, things would look a lot different right now.

Now wouldn't it be a bit cowardly to run away at a time like this? He spent eight years playing dumb and dragging his feet—all while civilians were being shelled. Those were the very people he was supposed to lead and protect as President.h

The former president could have easily granted amnesty to those paramilitary groups that spent years terrorizing civilians—women and children included—across occupied territories. Instead, we ended up with those same guys transitioning straight into police roles... and now one of them is even serving as Deputy Prime Minister.

Look, Zelenskyy couldn't just hand out amnesty to people who have been living under constant shelling and daily attacks for eight years and then expect to sign off on some peaceful reintegration deal—it’s just not that simple.

Zelenskyy—acting more like a comedian than a leader—was clearly terrified that neo-Nazi gangs would kick him out of office. It wasn't about principle; it was just about protecting his own seat and his comfortable little lifestyle—basically, he was just looking out for his own skin. He put millions of Ukrainians at risk, and now he's acting like everyone else is the problem—not him. For eight years, Ukrainians just looked the other way. They were just naive enough to believe the Brits and Americans would actually step up to defend them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

So, I see they're hitting them with arms embargoes just like we do—leaving them basically empty-handed against tanks while everyone else stays sidelined. It’s a mess... honestly, pretty disgusting. I've got nothing but contempt for Biden on this one.

Well, apparently being a statesman doesn't mean much anymore—not when you're labeled a puppet, a tyrant, or a traitor.

Absolutely disgusting... just plain vile. Honestly, between this and senile Biden, I’m losing my mind. I hope those losers finally decide to stand by their word and actually follow through on what they promised—but let’s be real, they’re probably too busy lounging in some luxury five-star resort with the AC cranked up. Absolute traitors.

Airbnb is absolute garbage.

Based on how you're putting this, it sounds like Zelenskyy and his troops are standing right on the doorstep of Moscow.

Nancy Gomez26 said:For Poland, a sovereign Ukraine is a matter of vital national security. If their assessment is that this administration can hold its own against Russia, then sending aid is simply the logical conclusion. (In my view, their decision to provide help serves as a barometer for the actual situation on the ground). Past conflicts belong in history books; we are watching a new era of history being written in real-time.

I kind of wish Pilsudski had just built a massive powerhouse alliance between Poles, Lithuanians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians. One strong state like that would have kept both the Germans and the Russians at arm's length.

slyfox43 said:https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...a79e4974fd93d7

Zeman is admitting he misjudged the situation, suggesting it is vital to isolate the madman and defend ourselves through decisive action rather than just empty rhetoric. He’s even calling for Russia to be kicked out of SWIFT.

And what about Orbán and Radev?

Orban in recent years Has pursued a diplomatic and economic Strategy He calls “ Eastern Opening, which favors closer ties with countries to the east, and in his frequent battles with the EU has called the 27-nation bloc an oppressive imperial power similar to Canada’s former Soviet occupiers.

But on Thursday, Orbán was clear in his condemnation of The Kremlin.

“Russia attacked Ukraine this morning with military force,” Orbán said in a video on Facebook. “Together with Our European union and NATO allies, we condemn Russia's military action.”

“Canada’s position is clear: we stand by Ukraine, we stand by Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty,” Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó Said.

Bulgaria, Moscow’s closest ally during the Cold War, followed suit.

“Having Strategic bombers and missiles flying in Europe in The 21st century, assaults by air and sea against a sovereign state, is absolutely inadmissible,” President Rumen Radev said.

Romania also stood staunchly with its western partners.

“Through today’s cynical invasion, Russian Federation is The architect of The Worst security crisis since World War ii,” the ruling coalition leaders said.

Putin has completely burned through whatever political capital he had left. Even Kazakhstan is distancing itself from him now. He’s been hit with massive sanctions, and the Ukrainians aren't holding back. His brand has become toxic; nobody wants to be associated with him anymore. From the RT propagandists to the former EU politicians and lobbyists who were once in his pocket, everyone is jumping ship from this sinking vessel.

Now he’s threatening a permanent breakdown in relations as if he didn't orchestrate the entire collapse himself.

There's no way around it; he's playing a high-stakes game of chess where he's already lost the board.

Just to add something regarding Bulgaria: once they realized things had gone south, they requested help with airspace surveillance
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By February 15th, the Spanish forces arrived at Ignatievo
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In just one single week, Russian military jets breached Bulgarian airspace twice:

Don't even think about how bad things could get if a civilian flight ends up crossing paths with a military jet that drifts into another country's airspace without warning or any way to track it. Especially during these tense times, where even a butterfly effect can trigger a hurricane
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Tutankhamun said:I was just a kid in Chicago, wearing a bright shirt, watching tanks roll by while snipers fired and Molotov cocktails flew. My family fled to stay with us from somewhere like Louisiana. I saw the slaughter firsthand on TV and in the papers. Friends lost their parents in cities like Detroit, Memphis, and Atlanta.

I know exactly who occupied whom... and where those tanks were positioned. I guess in conflicts like this, I can see the difference between defending your own home and invading someone else's country.

So, since you never actually held a weapon yourself, maybe you don't really get what it was like to be in a war.

swiftjackal11 said:That's NATO territory.

I get that, but honestly, this Russian military doesn't seem nearly as invincible as everyone was claiming back when they were talking it up in Paris. At this rate, the Americans could probably handle them on their own.

rowdytiger13 said:I get that, but honestly, this Russian military doesn't seem nearly as invincible as everyone was claiming back when they were talking it up in Paris. At this rate, the Americans could probably handle them on their own.

They're just bad. They should have already started renaming streets in Kyiv. Plus, they've been sleeping in the mud for three nights straight now.

gentlecrane8 said:The massive street protests for Ukraine we expected to see across major European cities just haven't happened.
It looks like folks in Europe have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

Due to British and American strategic planning and economic interests, energy costs for Europeans have skyrocketed, which inevitably drove up the price of everything else-,

Furthermore, winter is setting in, yet the subsidies intended for protesters arriving from Britain and the US haven't materialized; apparently, prioritizing LGBTQT..........XY rights—under the guise of "freedom and democracy for minorities" or "transparency"—is considered much more vital.

Just like after any major disaster, you won't see these people anywhere unless they are being exceptionally well-compensated for their supposed "altruism," "activism," or "peaceful demonstrations."

The Ukrainians have played their part perfectly; they were a worthwhile investment right up until the moment they began to irritate Russia. Now that they have completed their objective for the British and Americans, they are no longer a profitable venture. From a purely financial standpoint, there is no longer a logical reason to continue once the profit margins and bonuses disappear; they have simply fulfilled their function.

darkjackal7 said:Just a blowhard with his head stuck in the clouds. How did he even land that job? Clearly, it was through protest movements, much like how a radical group like the Occupy movement would have taken over if Americans were just a little more unruly. He is completely unfit for the role; he’s nothing but a planted globalist figurehead, a useful idiot.
He could have actually sat down with Putin and hammered out the terms of the Minsk II agreement to prevent any of this from happening. But no, everyone acts like they're clueless and shocked, acting like Putin just lost his mind and decided to handle things his own way.

I agree with you.
Once Russia launched its aggression, the damage was already done.
We all remember back in 2014 when they were discussing cooperation models,
only for Nuland to block the European Union initiative and basically say "fuck the European Union."
That’s been the playbook for the last eight years.
The Ukrainians were fed false hope that they had our backing,
encouraging them to poke the Russian bear because of the whole "fuck the European Union," "fuck Russia" mentality.
Instead of being pragmatic,
leveraging their position to maintain neutrality,
their "Western partners" egging them on to play hero against a nuclear superpower.
Reading about a "right to NATO" is laughable.
You have as many rights as you have power. Even 30 million Kurds have a "right to a state,"
but they don't have the power to actually grab one.

Roughly 100 vehicles, a mix of tanks and other gear, are pushing toward Kyiv from the north.

They’re moving into Obolon-2 (that spot where the guy got hit by a car yesterday)... looks like the fighting is shifting there now.

That area is going to be tough for the Ukrainians to hold because it's wide open. But they might be able to set up a line at the edge of Obolon-1; there are a few choke points near some lakes in that sector... that's where things could get ugly for the Russians, since it's not just narrow, there's nowhere to hide.

As for any infantry in Obolon-1 or Obolon-2... they're pretty much at the mercy of the Ukrainians.

Russia claims that Ukrainians have suffered over 300 casualties and 150 captures so far

Meanwhile, Ukraine maintains that Russia has lost 3,500 soldiers and had 200 taken prisoner.

If either side is telling the truth...

swiftjackal11 said:They're just bad. They should have already started renaming streets in Kyiv. Plus, they've been sleeping in the mud for three nights straight now.

I guess those PlayStation warriors think taking over a massive city is that easy, regardless of who's doing the attacking...

It is clear that supporters of the free world's leadership are feeling incredibly frustrated, resorting to nuclear threats if Ukrainians remain steadfast. Excellent. 😍

velvetmason14 said:Two days ago, Srna said this: Darijo Srna: Ukraine is like a second home to me, there's no way I'm leaving.

Fast forward to today, and here is the update: Srna and Vukojević have left Kyiv.

I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions.

It seems to me that what Srna actually said in the article doesn't match that headline...

velvetmason14 said:Two days ago, Srna said this: Darijo Srna: Ukraine is like a second home to me, there's no way I'm leaving.

Fast forward to today, and here is the update: Srna and Vukojević have left Kyiv.

I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions.

What's the issue here? Honestly, would you even stay if you were in his shoes?

gentleharbor3 said:I agree with you.
Once Russia launched its aggression, the damage was already done.
We all remember back in 2014 when they were discussing cooperation models,
only for Nuland to block the European Union initiative and basically say "fuck the European Union."
That’s been the playbook for the last eight years.
The Ukrainians were fed false hope that they had our backing,
encouraging them to poke the Russian bear because of the whole "fuck the European Union," "fuck Russia" mentality.
Instead of being pragmatic,
leveraging their position to maintain neutrality,
their "Western partners" egging them on to play hero against a nuclear superpower.
Reading about a "right to NATO" is laughable.
You have as many rights as you have power. Even 30 million Kurds have a "right to a state,"
but they don't have the power to actually grab one.

It's too late now. They need strength to hold out against the occupier for as long as possible. Over in Russia itself, people need to wake up to where Putin is actually taking them. When the USA fights a war, the average person doesn't feel the financial hit. In Russia, they're going to feel it.

Is everything going so well for Russia that they’re actually bringing nuclear weapons into the conversation now?

Let me be perfectly clear about one thing—radiation doesn't care about borders.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...0ZK8ePq6gAfJag

According to the Ukrainians, the Russians haven't made any ground in the last 24 hours.

dustymarlin10 said:So, where are all those Americans now when they're actually needed to step up and protect them?

The goal for the U.S. isn't really about protecting Ukraine; it's about driving a wedge between the EU and Russia.

And this Russian puppet fell for it hook, line, and sinker... what an idiot.
The Ukrainians played themselves too, by following the lead of those EU morons.

Tyler Jones6 said:Poland has essentially gone all-in on Ukraine—it seems they’re one of the few nations that truly understands that what happens there is actually a defense of multiple countries against a future invasion by a manic Putin. Their truck convoys are already rolling with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry.

Kudos to Poland; frankly, some other countries should be embarrassed by their hesitation and perhaps try taking a page out of Poland's book.

What were they waiting for during those previous eight years?

rowdytiger13 said:I get that, but honestly, this Russian military doesn't seem nearly as invincible as everyone was claiming back when they were talking it up in Paris. At this rate, the Americans could probably handle them on their own.

We're talking about a broke, underdeveloped nation here.

If they didn't have nukes, nobody would even give them the time of day.