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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
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#501 ·
People can trash-talk Zelenskyy all they want, calling him a comedian or totally incompetent. And honestly, they might have a point most of the time, but his refusal to leave Kyiv makes him look like a total badass.

Glory to Ukraine
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#502 ·
Sam Alvarez4 said:I stopped reading right after that because the phrasing was just so ugly. Honestly, I've never seen anything more crude or primitive...

There are young people among the Russians too—conscripts who never even got a say about going to Ukraine. They're there simply because they have no choice.

The paranoid autocrat in the Kremlin and his followers are one thing. But those young conscripts, whose lives mean absolutely nothing to the Kremlin? That's a whole different story...

In that case, let those draftees on this "intervention" in Ukraine just lay down their weapons. I doubt the Ukrainians will hold it against them.
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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joined Feb 2014
#503 ·
Douglas Davis4 said:Well, that’s fine then. We were the last ones to join the European Union... poisoned by that outdated communist mindset.
I suppose we shouldn't try to force our "brilliance" on them, right?

And there it is—that exact mentality right there.
No wonder people look at us like we're just some bunch of simpletons.
boldmarlin15 boldmarlin15 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#504 ·
Arthur Watson4 said:People can trash-talk Zelenskyy all they want, calling him a comedian or totally incompetent. And honestly, they might have a point most of the time, but his refusal to leave Kyiv makes him look like a total badass.

Glory to Ukraine

Facts. He showed he's got guts bigger than the city itself.

Zelenskyy and Boris Johnson are basically the only two leaders on the planet actually stepping up to the plate here.
silentsurfer3 silentsurfer3 Active Member
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#505 ·
The Ukrainians are claiming they've taken out more than 3,500 Russian soldiers so far.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#506 ·
Rachel Barrett8 said:Spot on.
Out of everyone in NATO, it seems like only Turkey is actually pushing for real action and providing actual support to Ukraine.

So much for the "West."
They'll turn their backs on you before you even realize what happened.

While Turkey calls for decisive moves, Poland is out there actually shipping munitions and weapons.
gentlemoose57 gentlemoose57 Active Member
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joined May 2014
#507 ·
Sam Alvarez4 said:I stopped reading right after that because the phrasing was just so ugly. Honestly, I've never seen anything more crude or primitive...

There are young people among the Russians too—conscripts who never even got a say about going to Ukraine. They're there simply because they have no choice.

The paranoid autocrat in the Kremlin and his followers are one thing. But those young conscripts, whose lives mean absolutely nothing to the Kremlin? That's a whole different story...

Apparently, some of them even surrendered because they were never told they’d be sent to fight in Ukraine in the first place.
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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#508 ·
silentsurfer3 said:The Ukrainians are claiming they've taken out more than 3,500 Russian soldiers so far.

Yeah, right—more like seven hundred thousand.
silentsurfer3 silentsurfer3 Active Member
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#509 ·
Betty Carter3 said:Yeah, right—more like seven hundred thousand.

Just saw this on a news site—I'm just passing it along here...
The number is definitely sitting somewhere around 1,000, and honestly, that’s still a massive amount.
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
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joined Oct 2015
#510 ·
Sam Alvarez4 said:I stopped reading right after that because the phrasing was just so ugly. Honestly, I've never seen anything more crude or primitive...

There are young people among the Russians too—conscripts who never even got a say about going to Ukraine. They're there simply because they have no choice.

The paranoid autocrat in the Kremlin and his followers are one thing. But those young conscripts, whose lives mean absolutely nothing to the Kremlin? That's a whole different story...

And? Maybe a few percent are like that. The vast majority aren't, otherwise they would have already kicked that guy out of power.
They are thirsty for Ukrainian blood, so let them bleed themselves.
boldmarlin15 boldmarlin15 Member
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#511 ·
gentlemoose57 said:Apparently, some of them even surrendered because they were never told they’d be sent to fight in Ukraine in the first place.

I honestly wonder what goes through those kids' heads.

A Russian soldier gets paid maybe $500... and these kids have smartphones, they read the news...

They probably get sent off with some bullshit promise about taking a quick stroll to Kyiv, only to end up stuck in guerrilla warfare as nothing more than cannon fodder.

Things aren't looking great for Ukraine, but they're showing insane courage... Russians are dying for a few hundred bucks, while Ukrainians are fighting for freedom and ideals. The motivation isn't even in the same league.
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
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#512 ·
If this situation drags on much longer, I suspect the Russians might lose the support of their currently neutral ally—China.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#513 ·
boldmarlin15 said:I honestly wonder what goes through those kids' heads.

A Russian soldier gets paid maybe $500... and these kids have smartphones, they read the news...

They probably get sent off with some bullshit promise about taking a quick stroll to Kyiv, only to end up stuck in guerrilla warfare as nothing more than cannon fodder.

Things aren't looking great for Ukraine, but they're showing insane courage... Russians are dying for a few hundred bucks, while Ukrainians are fighting for freedom and ideals. The motivation isn't even in the same league.

What kind of courage is it when a nation of 40 million sees combat reaching the outskirts of Kyiv by the second day?

They are manipulating poor young Americans with talk of joining Europe, but their reality will be much bleaker than life in the States—women working in brothels and men serving tables in Stuttgart.
Rachel Barrett8 Rachel Barrett8 Active Member
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#514 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:While Turkey calls for decisive moves, Poland is out there actually shipping munitions and weapons.

Germany even sent over helmets.

Why not just send 200 Leopard 2 tanks and be done with it?
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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joined Feb 2014
#515 ·
So, Biden just greenlit another $350 million in military aid for Ukraine

Honestly? It feels a little light, and definitely a bit late to the party.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#516 ·
It’s official now: Russia is launching its assault with only a third of the forces they originally staged around Ukraine.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#517 ·
Gerald Torres84 said:Why don't you just take your leave from this forum? It's obvious you're relying on Google Translate.

I am from North Mexico... I have no need for Google Translate. I have seen Americans moving to Germany—the working class from small towns, especially those remote backwaters in Canada.

That is the greatest benefit provided by the European Union:
The youth serving as a workforce for the West.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#518 ·
Rachel Barrett8 said:Germany even sent over helmets.

Why not just send 200 Leopard 2 tanks and be done with it?

The axis of evil back in World War II was Nazi Germany and fascist Italy...

Fast forward to 2022, and now Germany and Italy are refusing to kick Russia out of SWIFT.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#519 ·
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boldmarlin15 boldmarlin15 Member
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#520 ·
Adam Harris said:What kind of courage is it when a nation of 40 million sees combat reaching the outskirts of Kyiv by the second day?

They are manipulating poor young Americans with talk of joining Europe, but their reality will be much bleaker than life in the States—women working in brothels and men serving tables in Stuttgart.

Luckily, all those Russian women have PhDs.

If the world isn't going to war against Russian fascists yet, we should at least deal with the traitors at home. People like you should be identified and locked up.

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