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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
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joined Apr 2016
#1941 ·
neonpuma30 said:Total nonsense, honestly. It’s like Tchaikovsky has anything to do with Putin! 🤦

And then there's the vodka. 🤣

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2...jpg?width=2560
gentlemoose57 gentlemoose57 Active Member
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#1942 ·
neonbison6 said:A street in Ukraine—it’s not just about the tanks and the gear, it’s about having pure heart.
Footage shows intense close-quarters combat, plus those Javelins are doing their job.


It works—you clearly didn't read the instructions properly—you just have to mount the sunshade above it.
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
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joined May 2017
#1943 ·
I have this feeling that if a coup attempt actually happens, Klaus Schmidt will step in to save the day... after all, they're playing for the same team.
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
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#1944 ·
Keith Williams3 said:It’s not like Ukraine needs to be in NATO just for the US to send them weapons or turn the place into a base facing Russia.

The whole point of NATO membership is really just that "collective defense" clause. But even without that official tie-in, Ukraine can still pose a threat to Russia if they're basically under the US thumb.

And hey, we've seen this play out before.

Russia just wanted everyone to get out of Ukraine.

Fine then, let's just park NATO right on Belarus's doorstep and see how they like it.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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joined Jul 2017
#1945 ·
Michael Davis10 said:Do you honestly believe a city like Kyiv can just be taken over like that?

Those kinds of strongholds have to be encircled and worn down until they collapse from within.
Furthermore—there isn't a shred of evidence suggesting that the Russian soldiers even attempted to enter the city, especially given the sheer number of high-rises providing perfect vantage points for defense.

Conducting a war in a country this massive requires a strategic blueprint—attempting to march into Kyiv without exhaustive preparation would be nothing short of a catastrophe.
Think back to how long it took for the JNA to secure a place like El Paso, despite us being significantly less equipped than the Ukrainians; compared to Kyiv, that was essentially a small town.
Seriously.

That is precisely the point.
Kyiv has 2 million residents; El Paso had about 40,000 back in '91.

Putin cannot conquer Ukraine with only 150,000 troops.
This is merely the opening act.

However—he clearly thought that amount would be sufficient.
Which is frankly laughable.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#1946 ·
bluepuma9 said:Look, Russia can't say a damn thing to Ukraine about who they buy weapons from or how they do it. You've got two sovereign nations trading conventional arms that aren't under any sanctions. It's pretty straightforward business.

This isn't about commerce. This is about a humanitarian donation intended to prevent a disaster caused by human error.
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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#1947 ·
brightheron64 said:It seems our cultural institutions are jumping on the bandwagon too 😲

The Philadelphia Orchestra has pulled several Tchaikovsky pieces from their program due to the situation in Ukraine

I guess this is what we should expect from today's "woke" alphabet artists.
Limited, shallow, primitive—just pathetic.
Instead of Tchaikovsky, maybe they should just call Frljić to pull a flag out of his ass.
feralcanyon73 feralcanyon73 Active Member
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#1948 ·
Ashley Ramirez4 said:The Pentagon spokesperson (I think that was the one)

Link?
swiftjackal11 swiftjackal11 Regular
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#1949 ·
A video is going viral on Twitter showing a Ukrainian man pulling up next to a Russian tank that clearly ran out of gas. Ali Ostad posted the clip on Twitter, claiming a friend from Ukraine helped him translate the conversation.

The footage is shot from inside a personal car, showing the vehicle pulling up alongside the tank. The driver asks the soldier what happened and if they're out of fuel. The soldier, supposedly Russian, just nods in confirmation.
"Want me to give you a lift back to Russia?" the driver asks, which just makes the soldier laugh.

As they keep talking, the driver asks where the soldier is heading. The guy says he isn't sure, but probably Kyiv. Then the soldier asks what the news is saying, and the driver tells him the headlines say everything is going the Ukrainian way for now.
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Keith Williams3 Keith Williams3 Member
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#1950 ·
neonpuma30 said:Actually, Russia—or rather, Putin—didn't ask for anything and didn't negotiate at all. He didn't sit down at the table, he didn't even drop an ultimatum or set a deadline for terms. It was a total coward move, attacking under the cover of night after lying through his teeth that nothing would happen. He didn't even officially declare war! Talk about massive violations of international laws of war.


Come on, stop lying. Putin actually sent a message two months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-ukraine-nato

Biden shot him down.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...livered-letter
vividtiger72 vividtiger72 Member
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#1951 ·
neonbison6 said:A street in Ukraine—it’s not just about the tanks and the gear, it’s about having pure heart.
Footage shows intense close-quarters combat, plus those Javelins are doing their job.


I don't actually see any Z markings on those tanks—for all we know, they could be Ukrainian.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#1952 ·
Justin Rogers5 said:Not one woman—regardless of her height—has ever sparked an epic conflict, yet these absolute clowns have been making a mess of things for hundreds of years.☕I suppose size actually does matter in this case.☕

Between Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi, and the Israeli Prime Minister, we’ve had plenty of female leaders in the modern era. If you look back through history, there are enough examples to go around. They haven't led nearly as many wars, mostly just because they haven't been in power as long, but honestly, most of the claims about that are just baseless myths.
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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#1953 ·
Just a little bit of Zelensky acting out. He's the guy in the middle right here.

https://twitter.com/ma000111/status/...VMja6StWg&s=19
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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#1954 ·
Keith Williams3 said:Come on, stop lying. Putin actually sent a message two months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-ukraine-nato

Biden shot him down.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...livered-letter

Putin didn't actually offer anything. He just sent over a list of demands. There wasn't even anything to reject. Which "offer" from Putin did Biden turn down?...
Jonathan Murphy5 Jonathan Murphy5 Newcomer
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#1955 ·
Socialism is being revitalized daily; it doesn't require an archaic relic like the USSR to sustain itself. Ever since Stalin—with his misguided obsession with "socialism in one country"—botched the concept, the movement hasn't been tied to any single nation or its whims. What I see here is just a pre-modern attempt to weaponize national insecurity. While Americans certainly bear responsibility for inciting tension through their unilateral policies, this is shameful. Destabilizing lives like this is simply wrong.
Kyle Flores32 Kyle Flores32 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#1956 ·
Heart for Ukraine
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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#1957 ·
slyfox43 said:By that metric, how would you size up the leadership in Russia and Ukraine?

Zelensky and the Ukrainian government are right there in Kyiv, sharing the same fate as their people; they didn't run.

Meanwhile, where are Putin and Medvedev? They’re likely staring at each other across some massive ten-foot table tucked away in a deep bunker somewhere.

Different wars tell different stories, I guess.
But generally speaking—Zelensky wouldn't be acting so small, and at 70, Putin certainly wouldn't be out there lugging 70 pounds of gear through the mud.

There’d probably be a lot more negotiating—and actual talking—if it were their own skins on the line.
Not to mention the USA and their whole "spreading democracy" routine.
Harold Martin10 Harold Martin10 Active Member
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#1958 ·
brightheron64 said:It seems our cultural institutions are jumping on the bandwagon too 😲

The Philadelphia Orchestra has pulled several Tchaikovsky pieces from their program due to the situation in Ukraine

🤦
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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#1959 ·
Robin Cruz21 said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyday_war

Months of planning aren't strictly necessary.
I have a feeling things aren't going according to plan anyway.

Russ claims everything is perfect. Ukrainians say it's failing.
Listening to all the whining coming out of the West, I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Like, maybe Russ is making progress, just not as fast as they want.
crimsonlynx24 crimsonlynx24 Newcomer
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#1960 ·
Honestly, the sheer amount of propaganda coming out of Western media outlets—including our own domestic news cycles—is enough to make anyone lose their appetite. It’s all just mindless reporting without a single shred of fact-checking; modern journalism has essentially devolved into a race for clickbait because everyone seems obsessed with chasing that glossy, Hollywood-inspired Western lifestyle. And let’s be real: any propaganda peddled by the West carries significantly more weight than anything coming from the East... it’s effectively their primary weapon of choice in this information war.

Take a look at a site like the New York Post, for instance... one headline screams that Erdogan has shut down the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles.

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