2021/2022 School Year

placidnomad87 said:Personally, I’ve completely abandoned that whole theory, especially living in this country. My mindset now is simply to earn my money and figure out how to navigate life on my own terms. That’s really what all this endless bureaucracy and systemic corruption at every turn has taught me. 😁

I end up going to private providers for almost everything, except for those routine visits to my primary care physician.

At the end of the day, you just can't allow yourself to suffer because of a broken healthcare system; you have to have some savings set aside for emergencies. If you're facing something as serious as cancer and you're told you have to wait a full year just to be seen, how is that even acceptable to me? Complaining isn't going to overhaul the entire medical infrastructure.

Even with all these glaring flaws, our healthcare system isn't necessarily terrible when you consider that there are people who have never worked a day in their lives yet still receive a certain level of care. Is that model actually sustainable in the long run? Only time will tell.

It’s not sustainable. We’re already seeing it happen. That’s exactly why everyone is moving to private care. With this Medicare setup, if you need serious treatment, an operation, or an urgent scan, you might as well just end it all right then and there. I haven't forgotten my own experiences. As long as they can keep taking our payroll taxes... and funding these ridiculous things, they're happy.

Michelle Nelson4 said:Taking care of a 6th grader who isn't even sick? That's just... 🙏
The sheer amount we all pour into our taxes and insurance contributions—honestly, even Monty Python and Kafka couldn't dream up a scenario this absurd.

Beyond just paying for it, I actually have two people at my job who basically get paid to do nothing while someone else picks up their slack.

By the way, one of them stayed home last year because her kid was in eighth grade.
At first, she was complaining that it would be better if she didn't come into the office while her child was on sick leave, just in case she developed symptoms and ended up infecting us. You know how it goes—kids bring COVID-19 home from school to their parents.
Then, once we got those rapid tests, we suggested she come in and test alongside her kids. When they all came back negative and it turned out she didn't need sick leave after all, she suddenly claimed she couldn't let her kid do online school alone because she "couldn't monitor anything"—citing eighth-grade enrollments, blah blah blah... during that period when all schools were forced into remote learning, she was officially on sick leave for herself... you get the idea.
Some people really make the most of the situation.

We're paying for all sorts of things.

Michelle Nelson4 said:That’s just how it goes. I honestly hope you’re prepared to shell out 👍 next time you have to pay out of pocket for private healthcare—services you’re technically entitled to through your mandatory coverage, but can't actually access because the wait times are endless or your doctor simply refuses to give you a referral. 😉

Look, I work in healthcare myself, though I’ve certainly paid my fair share for private care over the years... Let's call it a balance, or an alignment... whatever you want to call it.

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Nicholas King said:Did they at least drop twenty bucks for coffee and some pastries for the "wonderful" doctor (lol)?

* A good doctor is one who actually gives me a sick note and prescribes antibiotics. A bad doctor is someone who refuses to give you antibiotics and always makes things difficult whenever I want to take medical leave.

What kind of amateurish nonsense and coffee is this? Honestly, you just can't carry yourself that way anymore—it’s pretty obvious you've become a total drain.
Homegrown. Eggs, bacon, fresh vegetables, maybe some cherry brandy...

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Dear Parents,
We are writing to inform you that your child, a student at ........................ school, has been in contact with an individual who tested positive for COVID-19.
Due to this exposure, the child has been ordered to self-isolate until ??.9.2021.
Please let us know the address where your child will be spending their isolation period.
Kindly reach out to your primary care physician (family doctor or pediatrician), who will handle further monitoring and determine if testing is necessary.

-If your child develops symptoms consistent with COVID-19 during isolation, they must be tested (please contact your chosen doctor, who should provide a referral for testing). According to current CDC guidelines, individuals who do not develop symptoms consistent with COVID-19 during isolation do not need to be tested at the end of their isolation period, except for healthcare workers and staff in social care facilities.
If testing is not required, the child may return to attending classes at school starting ??.9.2021.

-An individual is not subject to health monitoring during quarantine/self-isolation if they:
• had a laboratory-confirmed case of COVID-19 (via PCR or antigen test) within the last nine months and met the criteria for ending isolation
• is an individual who had a laboratory-confirmed case of COVID-19 and received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine within eight months of recovery; in this case, the exemption from quarantine is extended to nine months from the date of vaccination (immunocompromised individuals and those over 65 must receive two doses regardless of prior infection).
• based on clear epidemiological history and clinical presentation, was classified as a probable case of COVID-19 (e.g., a household member living with a lab-confirmed patient who developed characteristic symptoms during quarantine) within the last nine months and met the criteria for ending isolation.
• received a second dose of a COVID-19 vaccine (or a single dose of the Janssen vaccine) within the last nine months, provided that 14 days have passed since the completion of the vaccination series (the second dose for all vaccines except Janssen, which is administered as a single dose).

-Should any of the above criteria apply, your child does not need to enter self-isolation, but please notify us accordingly.
-You may present this email to your medical provider; all data regarding the ordered isolation will also be available to the doctor via the electronic platform.
-Information regarding self-isolation can be found at the following link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/information-on-isolation/
-For additional questions, please contact: branka.puskaric-saic@cdc.gov

A generic bureaucratic template lacking the student's name and even the creation date, which Dr. Branka Puškarić-Saić from the CDC sends to parents with a six-day delay.
She is responsible for the 14-day isolation being prescribed in violation of standard protocols, as she clearly failed to account for individual students, specific contact circumstances, or her own professional standards for determining close contact.

"Spending time in an enclosed space (e.g., a classroom, meeting room, or waiting area in a healthcare
facility, etc.) with someone suffering from COVID-19 at a distance of less than two meters for a duration
longer than 15 minutes—staying in an enclosed space at a distance greater than two meters may
constitute close contact, depending on whether the sick individual shows symptoms, mask usage, and room ventilation
... every single instance of contact in an enclosed space must be assessed individually.""

Six days, you say... well, that's just one way to measure how many infections we're seeing and the rate of school-based SI 😁
Last year, there was this specific window where by the time they finished waiting for testing slots and gave the epidemiologists enough time to actually process each classroom, the final SI decision would arrive on the very last day. 😂I mean, unless you think some little green alien is suddenly going to swoop in and write up all those reports. And more importantly, they'd have to sit down and interview every single kid individually to ask if they were hanging out with Peric or Maro that day. 🤣For our school alone, I doubt even 5 FTE epidemiologists could handle that workload this week...

Regarding all this mask business, I was watching Dr. Vrčeka, a chemistry professor, on the news yesterday. He was breaking down the actual efficacy of wearing masks based on the latest research and studies out there. Honestly, the people obsessing over masks—especially when it comes to school kids—clearly haven't a clue; they’re just throwing out blanket judgments and claims that aren't backed by science. It’s the same deal with our national task force; half the time what they push doesn't even hold up to scientific scrutiny. One part of the professor's analysis was actually pretty eye-opening—he went into the chemical makeup of the masks themselves, what compounds are released after wearing them for a while, and how much of that junk ends up in our bodies. He also cited a study from a major US organization looking at how much protection individual masks actually provide. Look, there are legit studies showing that masks don't really justify the way they're being used, and the recommendations coming from the task force just aren't grounded in real research. If anyone's curious, check out Dr. Vrčeka's appearance on Bujica yesterday. It shouldn't matter who's talking, but rather the facts they present and the evidence behind them—though I'm sure some people will try to dismiss him just because of what show he was on and who his guest was.

I'm posting this because of everything that went down yesterday in Cleveland involving a student refusing to wear a mask.

The Secretary looked pathetic and honestly pretty ridiculous yesterday. That said, I do agree those people had no right forcing their way into a school, though there's plenty of debate and conflicting info surrounding that part too.

Edward Perez64 said:Regarding all this mask business, I was watching Dr. Vrčeka, a chemistry professor, on the news yesterday. He was breaking down the actual efficacy of wearing masks based on the latest research and studies out there. Honestly, the people obsessing over masks—especially when it comes to school kids—clearly haven't a clue; they’re just throwing out blanket judgments and claims that aren't backed by science. It’s the same deal with our national task force; half the time what they push doesn't even hold up to scientific scrutiny. One part of the professor's analysis was actually pretty eye-opening—he went into the chemical makeup of the masks themselves, what compounds are released after wearing them for a while, and how much of that junk ends up in our bodies. He also cited a study from a major US organization looking at how much protection individual masks actually provide. Look, there are legit studies showing that masks don't really justify the way they're being used, and the recommendations coming from the task force just aren't grounded in real research. If anyone's curious, check out Dr. Vrčeka's appearance on Bujica yesterday. It shouldn't matter who's talking, but rather the facts they present and the evidence behind them—though I'm sure some people will try to dismiss him just because of what show he was on and who his guest was.

I'm posting this because of everything that went down yesterday in Cleveland involving a student refusing to wear a mask.

The Secretary looked pathetic and honestly pretty ridiculous yesterday. That said, I do agree those people had no right forcing their way into a school, though there's plenty of debate and conflicting info surrounding that part too.

It’s almost like all those surgeons, anesthesiologists, and scrub nurses are just dropping dead in droves because they wore masks during surgery.

Why don't we just drag in some physicist from Pavuna to act as our academic authority so we can all have a good laugh?

wanderingbadger44 said:It’s almost like all those surgeons, anesthesiologists, and scrub nurses are just dropping dead in droves because they wore masks during surgery.

Why don't we just drag in some physicist from Pavuna to act as our academic authority so we can all have a good laugh?

Nobody’s actually saying people are dying from masks, though whether wearing them is the absolute healthiest thing ever is a different story.

It'll probably start with you pulling something like this. But, interestingly enough, actual research shows something pretty different from what you're trying to imply here. Maybe take a look at what Dr. Vrček said yesterday and what he was actually referencing—might help you avoid making claims like this in the future.

Look, I'm all for debating if there are actual arguments involved. Dr. Vrček is a chemistry professor; he wasn't just throwing out random opinions, he was citing sources. Or does that rule only apply when someone agrees with him? Is referencing only valid when you're stating something "correct"?

Before you start dropping these sweeping generalizations, maybe do a little homework on what he was actually citing. Then come back with your own stance backed by a real source to debunk what he said yesterday. That's how a normal conversation works.

Honestly, this kind of approach is exactly what's missing from any real public debate these days.

If you actually want to comment on what he said and what he referenced, you should probably actually look into the topic being discussed first.



You might find this stuff funny, but we're talking about serious matters here.

The idea that you can dismiss a topic just because of who's talking about it is such an old trick to dodge the actual subject by attacking the person instead.

wanderingbadger44 said:It’s almost like all those surgeons, anesthesiologists, and scrub nurses are just dropping dead in droves because they wore masks during surgery.

Why don't we just drag in some physicist from Pavuna to act as our academic authority so we can all have a good laugh?

Right, because every surgeon, nurse, and anesthesiologist loves lighting up a cigarette and knocking back a shot on an empty stomach without any issues.

There's absolutely no reason we shouldn't let the kids light up a smoke and have a bitter herbal liqueur for breakfast too, right?🤦

Even James Watson (the guy who discovered the structure of DNA) actually claimed that "Black people are a lower race and I'm going to prove it"

Larry Walker24 said:Even James Watson (the guy who discovered the structure of DNA) actually claimed that "Black people are a lower race and I'm going to prove it"

Are you suggesting that Rosalind Franklin, who was actually the one to first photograph—and thus truly discover—DNA?
It feels like someone capable of hijacking credit and snatching a Nobel Prize is certainly capable of harboring racism too.

wanderingbadger44 said:Are you suggesting that Rosalind Franklin, who was actually the one to first photograph—and thus truly discover—DNA?
It feels like someone capable of hijacking credit and snatching a Nobel Prize is certainly capable of harboring racism too.

Honestly, I'm just wondering how any of this even relates to the topic. Why are we diluting the discussion like this?

The whole point here is what's going on—yesterday's mess in Cleveland is part of this thread, along with everything else surrounding it.

Edward Perez64 said:Honestly, I'm just wondering how any of this even relates to the topic. Why are we diluting the discussion like this?

The whole point here is what's going on—yesterday's mess in Cleveland is part of this thread, along with everything else surrounding it.

I am actually reading through this. You have parents standing in front of the school teaching their kids... I mean, that itself is traumatic. They really should have handled that more intelligently—like getting a doctor's note stating the child doesn't need to wear a mask. This whole "battle" fought on the backs of children is just... I don't even know. It's absurd.

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I didn't read the whole thing closely. What grade is the kid in?

Susan Martin4 said:I didn't read the whole thing closely. What grade is the kid in?

I think maybe 7th or 8th. Not sure, really. Just... an awkward age, I guess.

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Honestly, I just feel for the kid. Who knows what's actually going through his head with all this chaos?

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Aha, so he doesn't even want the mask himself—he’s actually leading the charge against them. It’s not like the parents are forcing him; he’s the one driving it.

mellowskipper said:I am actually reading through this. You have parents standing in front of the school teaching their kids... I mean, that itself is traumatic. They really should have handled that more intelligently—like getting a doctor's note stating the child doesn't need to wear a mask. This whole "battle" fought on the backs of children is just... I don't even know. It's absurd.

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No student needs a doctor's note to skip masks; there isn't even a law like that.

It's more like it exists in the minds of religious fanatics. It’s as if you need a rosary just to enter a school building or a signed permission slip from Bozanić—it all ends up being the same thing.😁

Taking shots at the most vulnerable people? It's pathetic and honestly just sad.

mellowskipper said:I am actually reading through this. You have parents standing in front of the school teaching their kids... I mean, that itself is traumatic. They really should have handled that more intelligently—like getting a doctor's note stating the child doesn't need to wear a mask. This whole "battle" fought on the backs of children is just... I don't even know. It's absurd.

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It’s pretty obvious they have way too much free time on their hands. 😁

But honestly, even in that school, those older kids—from fifth through eighth grade—don't bother wearing masks inside the classrooms at all. They only pull them up in the hallways or the restrooms. So, you're really only looking at wearing a mask for maybe a minute or two, just that brief stretch from the moment you walk into the building until you reach your desk. For the rest of the five or six hours spent sitting in class, they're just going about their business without any masks, totally normal.