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graniteeagle92 graniteeagle92 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Hey everyone.

Don't mind the low post count—I used to have an account here years ago, but I couldn't even remember my old username.

To get straight to the point: I'm in my early thirties, single, and as I get older, the lack of a serious relationship is starting to weigh on me.
I don't know why, but I just don't seem to catch women's attention. I'm nothing special physically—not ugly, per se, but definitely below average.
Actually, that’s secondary. The real issue is that I feel like I have nothing to offer, and I'm too inexperienced for my age to even navigate a real relationship properly.
That’s fine, though. My question isn't about how to find a girlfriend; it's about how to stop the frustration that comes from not having one.

It's not so much frustration as it is sadness. To me, love is the most beautiful thing a person can experience. I've experienced it very little, and I always assumed it was in the cards for me—turns out, maybe not.
I don't ever want to be that person who is miserably in love again, where my entire mood depends on someone I can't stop thinking about. Luckily, I don't tend to fall too hard.

I've decided to accept being alone, but I'm struggling with the "how." I'd love to be an entrepreneur and live entirely for my work, but I lack the drive without that emotional connection. I wish I were like Dr. House—someone who could just channel everything into their work. But he's a fictional genius, and I don't have any standout talents.
Hobbies don't fulfill me anymore, my social circle has settled down and drifted apart, and my single friends are either in their mid-twenties—where they're busy going out and cycling through partners—or they're my age and feeling the same lack of motivation.

I don't have issues with drinking or temper, but I really don't want to end up an alcoholic or a bitter old man just because I haven't found someone to share life's highs and lows with.
Does anyone have any advice—if such a thing exists—on how to accept being alone and actually be okay with it?
Please don't try to sell me on "positive thinking" or tell me I'll eventually find someone. That tactic hasn't worked for me since high school.
Paul Diaz54 Paul Diaz54 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Usually, people who actually enjoy being single have other stuff going for them—friends, a solid career, hobbies, whatever keeps them busy... If you’ve got nothing else filling your cup, then yeah, you're stuck. I'm in your age bracket too and still single, and honestly? It’s just frustrating how much people my age stop caring about actual friendship. Everything just turns into "are you dating someone?" and if you aren't in a relationship, it feels like you're basically cut off from most social circles anyway.
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
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#3 ·
graniteeagle92 said:Hey everyone.

Don't mind the low post count—I used to have an account here years ago, but I couldn't even remember my old username.

To get straight to the point: I'm in my early thirties, single, and as I get older, the lack of a serious relationship is starting to weigh on me.
I don't know why, but I just don't seem to catch women's attention. I'm nothing special physically—not ugly, per se, but definitely below average.
Actually, that’s secondary. The real issue is that I feel like I have nothing to offer, and I'm too inexperienced for my age to even navigate a real relationship properly.
That’s fine, though. My question isn't about how to find a girlfriend; it's about how to stop the frustration that comes from not having one.

It's not so much frustration as it is sadness. To me, love is the most beautiful thing a person can experience. I've experienced it very little, and I always assumed it was in the cards for me—turns out, maybe not.
I don't ever want to be that person who is miserably in love again, where my entire mood depends on someone I can't stop thinking about. Luckily, I don't tend to fall too hard.

I've decided to accept being alone, but I'm struggling with the "how." I'd love to be an entrepreneur and live entirely for my work, but I lack the drive without that emotional connection. I wish I were like Dr. House—someone who could just channel everything into their work. But he's a fictional genius, and I don't have any standout talents.
Hobbies don't fulfill me anymore, my social circle has settled down and drifted apart, and my single friends are either in their mid-twenties—where they're busy going out and cycling through partners—or they're my age and feeling the same lack of motivation.

I don't have issues with drinking or temper, but I really don't want to end up an alcoholic or a bitter old man just because I haven't found someone to share life's highs and lows with.
Does anyone have any advice—if such a thing exists—on how to accept being alone and actually be okay with it?
Please don't try to sell me on "positive thinking" or tell me I'll eventually find someone. That tactic hasn't worked for me since high school.

Maybe I'm the last person who should be answering you, since I don't even understand what you're talking about. But regardless, here is my take 😁
so feel free to skip this if it doesn't resonate.

To me, it sounds like you're overthinking things a bit too much—this whole "lack of love" thing. What exactly do you mean by "love"? Love takes many forms, and whether or not someone is partnered up has absolutely nothing to do with their capacity to feel love.
It seems to me like you're conflating your inability to secure a relationship with some grand cosmic failure, and now you're idealizing it as if it's something monumental. You're exaggerating, and I say that because you're expressing fear that you'll become a bitter, alcoholic old man if you aren't in a relationship—what on earth does that have to do with having a partner or not? People in marriages turn into alcoholics and bitter wrecks all the time, too. And then there's your claim that "love" is the most beautiful thing a person can experience (though, again, I don't follow your definition). Plus, there's the sheer drama of your title.

How do you accept it? It's like any other obsession. You see everyone else playing with a certain toy, you don't have it, so suddenly it's the only thing you care about. You just have to grow up, stop being so impulsive and childish, and start being rational.
Chris Anderson55 Chris Anderson55 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Having a positive mindset (which is what you’re claiming at the end here) is really just a premise—it's the starting line for some actual action that needs to follow.
A positive outlook alone doesn't change reality; the only thing it changes is your mood. If you actually want to shift your circumstances, you have to get moving and do something concrete.

If you take a step back from your own perspective and look objectively at what you wrote, you'll see you've already built in the cause-and-effect loop yourself; aging means being frustrated, and then you're asking us to somehow talk you out of it or prove you wrong. 😉
I'll be blunt—nobody here can prove you wrong even if we wanted to. You have to work through that logic on your own.

As for this idea that you aren't "the most attractive person in the room"—look, you're old enough to realize that isn't nearly as important as you think it is. The real issue here seems to be your personality, your lack of self-confidence, and your drive. I think that should be your true starting point, because it feels like you're fundamentally unhappy with who you are, regardless of whether you're single or in a relationship. It sounds like you believe finding love will magically fix all your problems, but that's a fallacy. Trying to validate your entire sense of self through another person is a mistake, and those kinds of relationships almost always fall apart. ☕

Invest in yourself. Take yourself out on a date. Read books, get involved in local community events where you live, and actually show up. Hit the gym. Distance yourself from people who have no drive and seek out new circles where you can actually grow. If you do that, you'll eventually become self-sufficient. Once you reach that point—and once you let go of all these heavy expectations and hopes for how the future "should" look—things will either align or at least most of them will fall into place. And honestly? You'll probably meet someone along the way while you're doing all that.

So, there it is. In a nutshell.
George Long6 George Long6 Member
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#5 ·
So what if you end up spending your life alone?
There are plenty of people who aren't interested in marriage or kids... they'd rather focus on other things, like traveling or their hobbies...
In the Nordic countries, birth rates are dropping because people have realized life is just too short to deal with all the drama that comes with marriage.
Just look at the divorce filings in Los Angeles. Thousands of people are splitting up, and you see single parents struggling just to stay afloat while juggling everything else....
And love... ah, that eternal question.
Even those who are married don't necessarily have love... many people just live together because they feel they have no choice or because of the kids.... is that really what you want?
And stop being so nostalgic just because you can't find a girlfriend.
Everything seems perfect at first, but once real life hits and problems start knocking on your door, people finally show their true colors—but by then, it’s too late... you’ve got kids, mortgages, and all that other stuff.
As for looks, does it really matter? Character is much more important, believe me.
Looks might attract us, but character is what makes someone stay.
Morgan White Morgan White Member
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#6 ·
Everything you're chasing—all that idealized perfection—it’s fleeting. I mean, anyone who’s actually been in a serious relationship here in the States could tell you that much.
And honestly, you can't really build a whole sense of purpose around something that shifts like that.

People drift in and out of your life, and at the end of the day, the only person you’re truly stuck with is yourself.
Kenneth Harris68 Kenneth Harris68 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Morgan White said:Everything you're chasing—all that idealized perfection—it’s fleeting. I mean, anyone who’s actually been in a serious relationship here in the States could tell you that much.
And honestly, you can't really build a whole sense of purpose around something that shifts like that.

People drift in and out of your life, and at the end of the day, the only person you’re truly stuck with is yourself.

Way to go, Doug!! THAT is what life is all about!
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#8 ·
Chris Anderson55 said:Having a positive mindset (which is what you’re claiming at the end here) is really just a premise—it's the starting line for some actual action that needs to follow.
A positive outlook alone doesn't change reality; the only thing it changes is your mood. If you actually want to shift your circumstances, you have to get moving and do something concrete.

If you take a step back from your own perspective and look objectively at what you wrote, you'll see you've already built in the cause-and-effect loop yourself; aging means being frustrated, and then you're asking us to somehow talk you out of it or prove you wrong. 😉
I'll be blunt—nobody here can prove you wrong even if we wanted to. You have to work through that logic on your own.

As for this idea that you aren't "the most attractive person in the room"—look, you're old enough to realize that isn't nearly as important as you think it is. The real issue here seems to be your personality, your lack of self-confidence, and your drive. I think that should be your true starting point, because it feels like you're fundamentally unhappy with who you are, regardless of whether you're single or in a relationship. It sounds like you believe finding love will magically fix all your problems, but that's a fallacy. Trying to validate your entire sense of self through another person is a mistake, and those kinds of relationships almost always fall apart. ☕

Invest in yourself. Take yourself out on a date. Read books, get involved in local community events where you live, and actually show up. Hit the gym. Distance yourself from people who have no drive and seek out new circles where you can actually grow. If you do that, you'll eventually become self-sufficient. Once you reach that point—and once you let go of all these heavy expectations and hopes for how the future "should" look—things will either align or at least most of them will fall into place. And honestly? You'll probably meet someone along the way while you're doing all that.

So, there it is. In a nutshell.

Basically, an impossible mission for someone with zero self-esteem and totally unrealistic expectations about life.
Truth is, things usually just settle themselves over time; very little that's genuine or emotional comes from sheer effort, it's more about momentum and making a bunch of tiny decisions in the right direction. Catching a good wind is what every sailor dreams of, many try, and a few actually make it...
So, telling a guy in his 30s who's disappointed, unrealistic, and depressed to "work on himself" so everything will be great one day is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks—it's incredibly hard and probably not even worth the effort in the end...
Instead of hitting the gym, socializing, or picking up hobbies, it's easier to just say "screw it, this is me" and see what parts of life actually work and just live through the rest...
The quote goes "we are alone and relationships are..." but listen, after a few months of kissing and hooking up, you realize life is messy, everything passes, and you end up alone again... Even if a partner stays, there's still credit card debt and other real-world problems, and you don't want to hurt someone, but for people who aren't honest with themselves, that's an impossible mission because honesty is rare due to fear and ignorance, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions...☕>
Chris Anderson55 Chris Anderson55 Newcomer
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#9 ·
Donna White50 said:Basically, an impossible mission for someone with zero self-esteem and totally unrealistic expectations about life.
Truth is, things usually just settle themselves over time; very little that's genuine or emotional comes from sheer effort, it's more about momentum and making a bunch of tiny decisions in the right direction. Catching a good wind is what every sailor dreams of, many try, and a few actually make it...
So, telling a guy in his 30s who's disappointed, unrealistic, and depressed to "work on himself" so everything will be great one day is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks—it's incredibly hard and probably not even worth the effort in the end...
Instead of hitting the gym, socializing, or picking up hobbies, it's easier to just say "screw it, this is me" and see what parts of life actually work and just live through the rest...
The quote goes "we are alone and relationships are..." but listen, after a few months of kissing and hooking up, you realize life is messy, everything passes, and you end up alone again... Even if a partner stays, there's still credit card debt and other real-world problems, and you don't want to hurt someone, but for people who aren't honest with themselves, that's an impossible mission because honesty is rare due to fear and ignorance, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions...☕>

I have to disagree. Given he's in his early 30s, he is nowhere near being compared to an old dog. He's miles away from that. 😉 If he had something truly engaging or intriguing already occupying his mind, I don't think he would have even brought this topic up. He needs a change, even if it's a small one... And that won't happen overnight; it requires a sustained period of intense effort and investment. But it's never too late for that, especially in your early thirties. Change works like dominoes—one tiny shift can trigger a massive chain reaction...
If he spends the rest of his life agonizing over these questions and simply accepts that "this is just how it is," it makes no sense to me. That kind of mindset will only paralyze him and prevent him from discovering the potential he surely possesses, which he just can't see right now because of his current state...

The same applies to love. You've framed all these concepts in such a defeatist way. Hooking up, messy lives, loneliness, the road to hell... That isn't reality; that's just your perspective on it. He needs to reach a stage where he can decide for himself whether life is as bleak as you claim or if it's actually quite different. Why discourage him from continuing to try and push forward?
Of course, being in a relationship with someone you love is hard; it requires compromise and sacrifice. But again, it all comes down to how a person positions themselves within that romantic relationship and the lens through which they view it.

And as for those sailors catching a good wind, hmm. A sailboat out on the open ocean has a much better chance of catching whatever wind happens to blow, whereas a boat that's been hauled out of the water doesn't even get to hope for a breeze... 😉
Henry Fisher74 Henry Fisher74 Member
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#10 ·
I get the feeling you've tried tackling just about everything except actually working on yourself. Like, with some real intention and a clear goal.
Everything starts within. You're at an age where you should probably realize that failing in your relationships and stuff isn't really about your looks.

You say you'd be fine being single, but clearly, it's eating at you. I guess you aren't nearly as okay with it as you claim to be.
Maybe you should focus on some self-improvement. That might actually start reflecting in other areas of your life.
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#11 ·
Look, you’ve just got to grow up a little bit. This really isn't something you need to bring to a therapist's couch. 1. At the end of the day, we all enter this world alone and we all leave it alone—that’s just a fundamental truth that isn't going anywhere. 2. If you're looking to find a partner, you don't necessarily need a psychiatrist; maybe just work on some social skills or get out there more. As for finding a job, it's all about being resourceful and staying hungry to learn new things... you know how it goes. Maturity happens in stages; everything settles into place when the time is right.
Carl Cox3 Carl Cox3 Active Member
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#12 ·
Once you realize that you are the lead actor in the movie called life, everything changes.
cosmicdriver42 cosmicdriver42 Active Member
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#13 ·
If I were your psychiatrist and you came to me with that exact same story, I’d probably just hand you a mild antidepressant and call it a day. Maybe it would actually help...😁
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#14 ·
Chris Anderson55 said:I have to disagree. Given he's in his early 30s, he is nowhere near being compared to an old dog. He's miles away from that. 😉 If he had something truly engaging or intriguing already occupying his mind, I don't think he would have even brought this topic up. He needs a change, even if it's a small one... And that won't happen overnight; it requires a sustained period of intense effort and investment. But it's never too late for that, especially in your early thirties. Change works like dominoes—one tiny shift can trigger a massive chain reaction...
If he spends the rest of his life agonizing over these questions and simply accepts that "this is just how it is," it makes no sense to me. That kind of mindset will only paralyze him and prevent him from discovering the potential he surely possesses, which he just can't see right now because of his current state...

The same applies to love. You've framed all these concepts in such a defeatist way. Hooking up, messy lives, loneliness, the road to hell... That isn't reality; that's just your perspective on it. He needs to reach a stage where he can decide for himself whether life is as bleak as you claim or if it's actually quite different. Why discourage him from continuing to try and push forward?
Of course, being in a relationship with someone you love is hard; it requires compromise and sacrifice. But again, it all comes down to how a person positions themselves within that romantic relationship and the lens through which they view it.

And as for those sailors catching a good wind, hmm. A sailboat out on the open ocean has a much better chance of catching whatever wind happens to blow, whereas a boat that's been hauled out of the water doesn't even get to hope for a breeze... 😉

In the West, there's this whole mantra that it's never too late as long as you're alive.
I don't buy that optimistic crap, though. If that were actually true, everyone would be happy and loaded if they just worked hard enough, but we see people grinding their lives away just to end up totally average...
It's all just pretty talk, like those "this time next year" promises...
Whatever...
The reality is that some parts of life can be fixed, and others? Not so much...
Even if hope and faith help a bit on the road to change, we tend to forget that every big life choice comes with a trade-off somewhere else, even if you know exactly what you want...

That's just how life works...
He definitely needs to make changes before heading back out there, but you can't exactly "try hard" to find a girlfriend—that kind of thing happens by accident... same goes for most other things, like your career or your friendships...
I always say: don't try to force yourself to change. Just lean into what you're actually good at, and leave the door open to try stuff you aren't great at along the way. Things will eventually settle into place based on who you are and what you need...
Why? Because most of our daily choices are automatic and subconscious. We make them because they fit our personality. By doing what we excel at, we have the best shot at succeeding and choosing a path that actually fits us, while staying open to new experiences along the way.
There's also this thing where people without any real experience think they know what they want, or they don't know at all—they just see what others have and selfishly want the same thing... sometimes it's better to have a solid foundation rather than just drifting through life like a leaf in the wind...
Generally speaking, people don't really know who they are. They're driven by ego instead of their spirit or true self-awareness. Once we stop caring about how we look to the outside world and what everyone else thinks, that's when we actually start living as our true selves. For some, it comes through spirituality, for others through age, and for some... well, never...

That whole "you can do anything if you just try hard enough" thing? Honestly, it’s such a hollow, unrealistic cliché. We actually have pretty little control over our lives—because if everything really was up to us, then we’d all be responsible for our own failures, which is just wrong. Telling a homeless person in downtown Chicago that they can achieve anything if they just put in the work... man, that’s incredibly hypocritical. It’s easy to say when you grew up with supportive parents, a solid education, a great social circle, and a financial safety net to fall back on...
Not everyone can have it all—the money, the sex, the constant indulgence, the perks... very few people actually touch that kind of life. But honestly, I don't think happiness even comes from those things anyway. You only have to look at kids or people who don't have much to realize that true joy is found in a simple smile or someone having a good heart...
Chris Anderson55 Chris Anderson55 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Donna White50 said:In the West, there's this whole mantra that it's never too late as long as you're alive.
I don't buy that optimistic crap, though. If that were actually true, everyone would be happy and loaded if they just worked hard enough, but we see people grinding their lives away just to end up totally average...
It's all just pretty talk, like those "this time next year" promises...
Whatever...
The reality is that some parts of life can be fixed, and others? Not so much...
Even if hope and faith help a bit on the road to change, we tend to forget that every big life choice comes with a trade-off somewhere else, even if you know exactly what you want...

That's just how life works...
He definitely needs to make changes before heading back out there, but you can't exactly "try hard" to find a girlfriend—that kind of thing happens by accident... same goes for most other things, like your career or your friendships...
I always say: don't try to force yourself to change. Just lean into what you're actually good at, and leave the door open to try stuff you aren't great at along the way. Things will eventually settle into place based on who you are and what you need...
Why? Because most of our daily choices are automatic and subconscious. We make them because they fit our personality. By doing what we excel at, we have the best shot at succeeding and choosing a path that actually fits us, while staying open to new experiences along the way.
There's also this thing where people without any real experience think they know what they want, or they don't know at all—they just see what others have and selfishly want the same thing... sometimes it's better to have a solid foundation rather than just drifting through life like a leaf in the wind...
Generally speaking, people don't really know who they are. They're driven by ego instead of their spirit or true self-awareness. Once we stop caring about how we look to the outside world and what everyone else thinks, that's when we actually start living as our true selves. For some, it comes through spirituality, for others through age, and for some... well, never...

That whole "you can do anything if you just try hard enough" thing? Honestly, it’s such a hollow, unrealistic cliché. We actually have pretty little control over our lives—because if everything really was up to us, then we’d all be responsible for our own failures, which is just wrong. Telling a homeless person in downtown Chicago that they can achieve anything if they just put in the work... man, that’s incredibly hypocritical. It’s easy to say when you grew up with supportive parents, a solid education, a great social circle, and a financial safety net to fall back on...
Not everyone can have it all—the money, the sex, the constant indulgence, the perks... very few people actually touch that kind of life. But honestly, I don't think happiness even comes from those things anyway. You only have to look at kids or people who don't have much to realize that true joy is found in a simple smile or someone having a good heart...


I’d say we’re definitely looking at an optimistic perspective here, but let’s be real—it isn't the kind of baseless nonsense you're claiming. It’s not about everyone suddenly becoming incredibly happy and rolling in cash overnight. It’s more nuanced than that. It’s about people being a little bit happier and a little bit better off than they were before—or, in this specific instance, the idea that the OP might end up feeling a bit more content and "wealthier" than they did when they first sat down to write this post.
I think you’re looking at optimism through a bit of an extreme lens. To me, it feels like you're viewing everything as an all-or-nothing proposition, and honestly, chasing extremes rarely makes much sense in the long run. Look, let's be realistic—it's not like I can just wake up tomorrow and become an Olympic gold medalist, or suddenly start pulling in millions of dollars like a Wall Street CEO. Those are outliers; they're the extremes. But there is a massive middle ground between where I am now and those impossible peaks. I absolutely believe I can push myself to a point that is ten times better than my current status. That isn't an extreme; it's just meaningful progress. At the end of the day, I don't measure my success by comparing myself to the rest of society or some arbitrary national average. The only metric that actually matters is how I stack up against the person I was yesterday.
Every single facet of our existence—our personality, the way we carry ourselves, even our core approach to life—is something that can be refined. It’s absolutely possible to improve. Sure, it demands a certain level of sacrifice along the way, but isn't that essentially the art of living? It's about finding that delicate equilibrium between all those moving parts until you finally reach a point where you feel truly fulfilled and at peace with yourself.

The OP really needs to shift their perspective regarding both their future and themselves. If they just accept this current mindset and settle for it—well, there’s absolutely nothing to be gained. Giving up on trying, resigning oneself to the idea that they'll never meet anyone special, and continuing to hang out with a circle of unmotivated friends...
...where does that actually lead? It leads to a life of misery and pathos, and I don't think anyone truly wants to live that way.

Making an effort to find a girlfriend is definitely doable. I have two close friends who serve as perfect examples of this. One friend was constantly putting himself out there, asking people out, grabbing coffee, and staying active socially, until finally, everything just clicked into place. Of course, it would be wonderful if a partner just magically appeared on your doorstep, but that isn't how reality works. The more you are out among people, the more you socialize and engage with the world, the higher the probability becomes that you'll meet someone. It’s much better than sitting at home or stagnating with those unmotivated friends. Ultimately, you have to take the initiative to show interest in others rather than waiting for someone to hand you an opportunity on a silver platter.

Regarding what you mentioned about inexperienced people not knowing what they want—that is precisely why they need to go out and learn. They need to explore, try things, and see for themselves. This applies to the author of this thread as well. At any point, you can choose to walk away if something doesn't suit you. If someone is unsure of what they want, the best path is to experiment and gain firsthand experience, rather than simply resigning themselves to inaction and deciding "maybe it's just not meant to be" without ever trying.

The idea that anything is possible if you put in the work isn't empty rhetoric or unrealistic. The only reason you might perceive it that way is because you're taking it too literally.

As for your point about talking to a homeless person—look, I don't even need to say anything myself; there are countless famous Americans who started with absolutely nothing and rose to the top. I realize I'm using an extreme example, but yes, it is possible through hard work, genuine interest, and sheer grit (which sometimes requires an immense amount of effort), coupled with a grain of luck. But yes, it is achievable. However, it requires facing your fears, dealing with uncertainty, and tackling your own personal demons head-on—and that is exactly where most people falter and give up right at the starting line.

Best regards!
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#16 ·
Chris Anderson55 said:I’d say we’re definitely looking at an optimistic perspective here, but let’s be real—it isn't the kind of baseless nonsense you're claiming. It’s not about everyone suddenly becoming incredibly happy and rolling in cash overnight. It’s more nuanced than that. It’s about people being a little bit happier and a little bit better off than they were before—or, in this specific instance, the idea that the OP might end up feeling a bit more content and "wealthier" than they did when they first sat down to write this post.
I think you’re looking at optimism through a bit of an extreme lens. To me, it feels like you're viewing everything as an all-or-nothing proposition, and honestly, chasing extremes rarely makes much sense in the long run. Look, let's be realistic—it's not like I can just wake up tomorrow and become an Olympic gold medalist, or suddenly start pulling in millions of dollars like a Wall Street CEO. Those are outliers; they're the extremes. But there is a massive middle ground between where I am now and those impossible peaks. I absolutely believe I can push myself to a point that is ten times better than my current status. That isn't an extreme; it's just meaningful progress. At the end of the day, I don't measure my success by comparing myself to the rest of society or some arbitrary national average. The only metric that actually matters is how I stack up against the person I was yesterday.
Every single facet of our existence—our personality, the way we carry ourselves, even our core approach to life—is something that can be refined. It’s absolutely possible to improve. Sure, it demands a certain level of sacrifice along the way, but isn't that essentially the art of living? It's about finding that delicate equilibrium between all those moving parts until you finally reach a point where you feel truly fulfilled and at peace with yourself.

The OP really needs to shift their perspective regarding both their future and themselves. If they just accept this current mindset and settle for it—well, there’s absolutely nothing to be gained. Giving up on trying, resigning oneself to the idea that they'll never meet anyone special, and continuing to hang out with a circle of unmotivated friends...
...where does that actually lead? It leads to a life of misery and pathos, and I don't think anyone truly wants to live that way.

Making an effort to find a girlfriend is definitely doable. I have two close friends who serve as perfect examples of this. One friend was constantly putting himself out there, asking people out, grabbing coffee, and staying active socially, until finally, everything just clicked into place. Of course, it would be wonderful if a partner just magically appeared on your doorstep, but that isn't how reality works. The more you are out among people, the more you socialize and engage with the world, the higher the probability becomes that you'll meet someone. It’s much better than sitting at home or stagnating with those unmotivated friends. Ultimately, you have to take the initiative to show interest in others rather than waiting for someone to hand you an opportunity on a silver platter.

Regarding what you mentioned about inexperienced people not knowing what they want—that is precisely why they need to go out and learn. They need to explore, try things, and see for themselves. This applies to the author of this thread as well. At any point, you can choose to walk away if something doesn't suit you. If someone is unsure of what they want, the best path is to experiment and gain firsthand experience, rather than simply resigning themselves to inaction and deciding "maybe it's just not meant to be" without ever trying.

The idea that anything is possible if you put in the work isn't empty rhetoric or unrealistic. The only reason you might perceive it that way is because you're taking it too literally.

As for your point about talking to a homeless person—look, I don't even need to say anything myself; there are countless famous Americans who started with absolutely nothing and rose to the top. I realize I'm using an extreme example, but yes, it is possible through hard work, genuine interest, and sheer grit (which sometimes requires an immense amount of effort), coupled with a grain of luck. But yes, it is achievable. However, it requires facing your fears, dealing with uncertainty, and tackling your own personal demons head-on—and that is exactly where most people falter and give up right at the starting line.

Best regards!

I see so many people out there really grinding away at exactly what you're talking about—you know, trying to get out, putting in the work, whatever... just doing everything possible to become like ten times better than they are right now...
Do people actually work because they want to... or is it just this constant feeling that they have to? Like, is it genuine drive or just that pressure to keep up appearances...
So many people are constantly stressing out because they don't have this or that... you know? Everyone's convinced they need to hit certain milestones just because everyone else seems to be doing it—it’s like this endless cycle of "I need to work this hard" or "I need to own this"—and honestly, it just leaves people feeling totally burnt out. It’s kind of wild when you think about it... there are plenty of folks who actually have everything they need, but they still spend their whole lives miserable, just chasing after things they don't even really need...
Honestly, I think the OP is totally fine—you’re just getting a bit worked up thinking he’s destined to be alone forever and that it’s some huge tragedy.
The reality is that plenty of people try dating and still end up single, while others just get lucky... there isn't some magic formula here...
It’s not like he hasn't put himself out there, it’s just that things haven't clicked yet—he hasn't had that stroke of luck...
I don't see the point in forcing it. If a connection happens, great, if not, then whatever. He could meet someone at a Starbucks, a bus station, an online forum, or even just walking down the street—as long as he can actually hold a conversation... and let's be real, women need attention and connection just as much as guys do...

The whole fucking world seems convinced that you always "need" something more. From influencers on Instagram to every other annoying person out there, we're constantly being harassed with this talk about success, growth, and constant hustle... everyone is racing toward something, always wanting more, and then at the end of the day, they're just exhausted. They sit down at a local bistro, grab a glass of wine, watch the sunset, strike up a chat with a girl, and finally feel like... yeah, this is it...
casualcanyon3 casualcanyon3 Active Member
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#17 ·
Chris Anderson55, it is actually quite refreshing, for once, to stumble upon a post like this. 🙂 I find myself in complete agreement with every single word you've written.
Chris Anderson55 Chris Anderson55 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Donna White50 said:I see so many people out there really grinding away at exactly what you're talking about—you know, trying to get out, putting in the work, whatever... just doing everything possible to become like ten times better than they are right now...
Do people actually work because they want to... or is it just this constant feeling that they have to? Like, is it genuine drive or just that pressure to keep up appearances...
So many people are constantly stressing out because they don't have this or that... you know? Everyone's convinced they need to hit certain milestones just because everyone else seems to be doing it—it’s like this endless cycle of "I need to work this hard" or "I need to own this"—and honestly, it just leaves people feeling totally burnt out. It’s kind of wild when you think about it... there are plenty of folks who actually have everything they need, but they still spend their whole lives miserable, just chasing after things they don't even really need...
Honestly, I think the OP is totally fine—you’re just getting a bit worked up thinking he’s destined to be alone forever and that it’s some huge tragedy.
The reality is that plenty of people try dating and still end up single, while others just get lucky... there isn't some magic formula here...
It’s not like he hasn't put himself out there, it’s just that things haven't clicked yet—he hasn't had that stroke of luck...
I don't see the point in forcing it. If a connection happens, great, if not, then whatever. He could meet someone at a Starbucks, a bus station, an online forum, or even just walking down the street—as long as he can actually hold a conversation... and let's be real, women need attention and connection just as much as guys do...

The whole fucking world seems convinced that you always "need" something more. From influencers on Instagram to every other annoying person out there, we're constantly being harassed with this talk about success, growth, and constant hustle... everyone is racing toward something, always wanting more, and then at the end of the day, they're just exhausted. They sit down at a local bistro, grab a glass of wine, watch the sunset, strike up a chat with a girl, and finally feel like... yeah, this is it...

I don't think it matters whether people do it for themselves or for someone else. Even a bird on a branch knows it's pointless to do anything just to impress someone else.

I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that's the case for the OP. I believe he appreciates what he has, but at the same time, he feels he needs something new, something different. Since he's fixated on the idea that he'll inevitably end up alone—which he will, regardless—he might actually resolve that fear by exposing himself to the possibility. That's how he proves to himself whether it’s a genuine issue or something deeper underneath. He should just give it a shot and see what happens... that’s the fastest way to clear up his doubts. Telling him to just accept the bleak scenario he's built in his mind is pretty useless.

True. There are no rules when it comes to relationships; one moment it's like this, the next it's like that. But like I said, it varies from person to person, and everyone has to convince themselves. In this case, the author has to figure it out for himself AFTER he's sat with these thoughts about loneliness. He doesn't need to force anything right now; he just needs to put in a little more effort than he has previously, and that's that. That's how he'll find his answer.

Honestly, I couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks or does. Or what some random person posts on Facebook or Instagram. It doesn't bother me one bit. I try to focus on myself and tackle the issues I consider my own, and I've got plenty of those to deal with. Based on my own experience fighting my own battles, I might (eventually) offer some advice to someone on this forum or to a close friend, and that's it. If someone wants to take it, great; if not, good luck to them.
brightseal3 brightseal3 Member
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#19 ·
Why on earth would you think that being single in your 30s means you're destined to be alone forever? Honestly, you’ve still got your entire life ahead of you... I know plenty of guys older than you, and even girls who are flying solo right now and can't see anyone on the horizon, yet they find their person. Just give it a shot, really try—you've got absolutely nothing to lose here. And trust me, it is so much better to be on your own than to be stuck with the wrong person, someone who's just going to drain you emotionally or wreck you financially, leaving you to pay child support for the next 18 years. Someone once said that everything happens for a reason, and that the universe, God, or nature never throws something at us that we aren't capable of handling or getting through. Try to stay a bit more optimistic and just believe that everything will eventually fall into place; having that kind of mindset will make the whole journey so much easier.
Jose Evans4 Jose Evans4 Newcomer
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#20 ·
What a load of nonsense. Honestly, I think anyone can find someone "for them" these days—everybody finds their match eventually, if you know what I mean... Just don't aim too high... There's really someone out there for everyone

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