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Joseph Murphy10 Joseph Murphy10 Active Member
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#41 ·
James Lee77 said:I mean, just try it. Send them an email and ask if they can hook you up with a discount. I bet they’ve got a ton of this stuff just sitting in a warehouse, and there's no way they think they'll move it all at the current price tag. But, honestly, they might not even care that much about moving inventory, so they could totally just blow you off.

Knock and the door shall be opened, as Jesus says in the Gospel of Matthew 👍

Or like the old saying goes—a kind word opens steel doors... 🙂

I asked, and ended up getting a student discount on every order. It’s not massive, sure, but every five bucks saved makes one book free. That adds up. And hey, I appreciate the gesture. You can't put a price on that. 🙂
Sandra Murphy33 Sandra Murphy33 Active Member
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#42 ·
Has anyone picked up "post-capitalism and a world without work" yet? 🙂

I spotted it at the library a couple of days ago. It’s a new arrival, and nobody had checked it out yet. I decided to reserve it for myself by tucking it away on a random shelf where it doesn't belong, just so the usual crowd browsing that section won't stumble upon it. ... psssssssst 😎
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active MemberOP
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#43 ·
Sandra Murphy33 said:Has anyone picked up "post-capitalism and a world without work" yet? 🙂

I spotted it at the library a couple of days ago. It’s a new arrival, and nobody had checked it out yet. I decided to reserve it for myself by tucking it away on a random shelf where it doesn't belong, just so the usual crowd browsing that section won't stumble upon it. ... psssssssst 😎

Who is the author of this book?
Joseph Murphy10 Joseph Murphy10 Active Member
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#44 ·
Sandra Murphy33 said:Has anyone picked up "post-capitalism and a world without work" yet? 🙂

I spotted it at the library a couple of days ago. It’s a new arrival, and nobody had checked it out yet. I decided to reserve it for myself by tucking it away on a random shelf where it doesn't belong, just so the usual crowd browsing that section won't stumble upon it. ... psssssssst 😎

I think I saw it over at Hearst Communications, if I remember right. Honestly, I've had Mason's "Post-Capitalism" sitting around for ages and haven't even cracked it yet—so once I finally get through this one, maybe... eventually...

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Amanda Jackson5 Amanda Jackson5 Regular
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#45 ·
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active MemberOP
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#46 ·
Amanda Jackson5 said:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000000000

It is quite interesting; from the brief glance I took at some of the reviews in English, the original title is actually The Age of Surveillance Capitalism.
Amanda Flores88 Amanda Flores88 Active Member
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#47 ·
Sandra Murphy33 said:Has anyone picked up "post-capitalism and a world without work" yet? 🙂

I spotted it at the library a couple of days ago. It’s a new arrival, and nobody had checked it out yet. I decided to reserve it for myself by tucking it away on a random shelf where it doesn't belong, just so the usual crowd browsing that section won't stumble upon it. ... psssssssst 😎

aaaaa 😁 None! 🧐
Sandra Murphy33 Sandra Murphy33 Active Member
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#48 ·
I can't for the life of me remember where I actually put it 👎
Amanda Flores88 Amanda Flores88 Active Member
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#49 ·
Sandra Murphy33 said:I can't for the life of me remember where I actually put it 👎

Some total trickster at the library. 🙂

A clean conscience can be its own worst enemy, right?
Sandra Murphy33 Sandra Murphy33 Active Member
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#50 ·
Amanda Flores88 said:Some total trickster at the library. 🙂

A clean conscience can be its own worst enemy, right?

🤣

...I can't tell if you're playing the trickster or if you're actually being serious, but you hit the nail right on the head. 🙂 😎
steelridge58 steelridge58 Regular
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#51 ·
You know how some people just drift apart until they lose contact entirely, eventually reaching a point where they can't even remember what caused the rift in the first place? Well, I feel like I did that with a book, too, because I honestly couldn't recall the exact reason why I picked up "Mileva Einstein, Theory of Sorrow" by Slavenka Drakulić, only to slam it shut and decide right then and there that I wasn't going to finish it.

But then, somehow, it ended up back in my hands today, and I found myself opening it again, using a little bookmark to find where I’d left off, though as I started flipping back through the pages
I landed right at the beginning, where Mileva is sitting at a kitchen table—it seems like she's always in a kitchen—back in 1914, reading a letter that had been delivered the day before by Einstein's colleague, Fritz Haber, who apparently acted "like a total coward since Albert didn't have the guts to hand it to her personally."

It was this letter outlining a set of conditions for cohabitation, something no woman should ever have to endure, but I'm not going to sit here and list out all his points A, B, C, and D; I'll just share one small snippet from near my bookmark
"Mileva reflects on the whirlwind of emotions she felt after reading those conditions and the letter that followed: despair, then anger, disappointment, bitterness... and pride.
It's that sense of pride that explains her two completely contradictory decisions: first, agreeing to everything he demanded, and then, shortly after, making the firm decision to leave Washington, D.C."

I've finally committed to finishing this one, so I'm placing it right here on our photo shelf so it stays front and center where I can't ignore it.
Amanda Flores88 Amanda Flores88 Active Member
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#52 ·
Sandra Murphy33 said:🤣

...I can't tell if you're playing the trickster or if you're actually being serious, but you hit the nail right on the head. 🙂 😎

Man, seriously—it’s both hilarious and totally true at the same time. 😁🙂
steelridge58 steelridge58 Regular
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#53 ·
I tend to circle back to certain things quite often—it’s actually part of my handle and reflects the kind of books I truly love.

One such book is The Poetics of Space by Gaston Bachelard.

It’s just one of those inexhaustible works where, every single time I pick it up again, I feel like I’m discovering something entirely new.

Just yesterday, I was mentioning my hometown in an email 😉 and how much of a piece of my heart stays there, feeling like no other place could ever really take its spot.

Then, as if on cue, I found myself returning to this book today, and because of that wonderful thing called forgetting, it felt almost like reading it for the first time, leading me straight to these passages:

"The childhood home is a lived-in house. Its intimate values are scattered throughout, difficult to pin down, always subject to shifting dialectics.
Think of all those honest stories about childhood—how they tell us that if a child doesn't have their own room, they simply retreat to a little corner to sulk!

But beyond mere memory, the childhood home is physically etched into our very being; it is a collection of organic habits. Even after twenty years away, despite the nameless steps of other houses, we will find ourselves mirroring the reflex of that 'first staircase,' never stumbling over a slightly raised step. The entire essence of the house dissolves into our own being. With that same instinctive motion, we would push open a creaking door and head toward the old attic in the dark. We carry within us the exact movement and feeling required for even the smallest latch that needs unfastening.

The houses we inhabit later undoubtedly wear down our movements into the mundane routines of everyday life. But there is a profound sense of wonder when we return to that old house after decades of wandering, only to realize that our finest, most primal movements have suddenly surged back to life, still perfectly intact. In a sense, the childhood home writes a hierarchy of living into us; we are essentially a diagram of functions within that specific house, and every other home we enter is merely a variation on that original theme. To call it a 'habit' feels far too clinical to describe this passionate connection of a body that never forgets a home it can never truly leave."

The book itself is a phenomenological exploration of poetry, delving into the philosophical and lyrical layers of our world—life, creativity, the phenomenon, and the often-overlooked or dismissed soul. It provides the initial momentum for any great work, acting as the spark where the spirit begins to shape imagination; the dialectic between inspiration and talent only becomes clear when you consider both poles—the soul and the spirit—alongside logos, the essence of what makes us human, and imagination, which is perhaps the greatest force in human nature. I honestly can't recommend it enough.

And here is one more little quote that feels perfectly on-topic:

"Any reader with even a modicum of passion simultaneously fuels and suppresses the desire to be a writer. When a page is read that is simply too beautiful, modesty stifles that urge.
But the desire is reborn. In any case, every reader who revisits a work they love knows that those favorite pages touch them deeply."
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active MemberOP
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#54 ·
steelridge58 said:I tend to circle back to certain things quite often—it’s actually part of my handle and reflects the kind of books I truly love.

One such book is The Poetics of Space by Gaston Bachelard.

It’s just one of those inexhaustible works where, every single time I pick it up again, I feel like I’m discovering something entirely new.

Just yesterday, I was mentioning my hometown in an email 😉 and how much of a piece of my heart stays there, feeling like no other place could ever really take its spot.

Then, as if on cue, I found myself returning to this book today, and because of that wonderful thing called forgetting, it felt almost like reading it for the first time, leading me straight to these passages:

"The childhood home is a lived-in house. Its intimate values are scattered throughout, difficult to pin down, always subject to shifting dialectics.
Think of all those honest stories about childhood—how they tell us that if a child doesn't have their own room, they simply retreat to a little corner to sulk!

But beyond mere memory, the childhood home is physically etched into our very being; it is a collection of organic habits. Even after twenty years away, despite the nameless steps of other houses, we will find ourselves mirroring the reflex of that 'first staircase,' never stumbling over a slightly raised step. The entire essence of the house dissolves into our own being. With that same instinctive motion, we would push open a creaking door and head toward the old attic in the dark. We carry within us the exact movement and feeling required for even the smallest latch that needs unfastening.

The houses we inhabit later undoubtedly wear down our movements into the mundane routines of everyday life. But there is a profound sense of wonder when we return to that old house after decades of wandering, only to realize that our finest, most primal movements have suddenly surged back to life, still perfectly intact. In a sense, the childhood home writes a hierarchy of living into us; we are essentially a diagram of functions within that specific house, and every other home we enter is merely a variation on that original theme. To call it a 'habit' feels far too clinical to describe this passionate connection of a body that never forgets a home it can never truly leave."

The book itself is a phenomenological exploration of poetry, delving into the philosophical and lyrical layers of our world—life, creativity, the phenomenon, and the often-overlooked or dismissed soul. It provides the initial momentum for any great work, acting as the spark where the spirit begins to shape imagination; the dialectic between inspiration and talent only becomes clear when you consider both poles—the soul and the spirit—alongside logos, the essence of what makes us human, and imagination, which is perhaps the greatest force in human nature. I honestly can't recommend it enough.

And here is one more little quote that feels perfectly on-topic:

"Any reader with even a modicum of passion simultaneously fuels and suppresses the desire to be a writer. When a page is read that is simply too beautiful, modesty stifles that urge.
But the desire is reborn. In any case, every reader who revisits a work they love knows that those favorite pages touch them deeply."

I added the bold text before your quote just because I thought it sounded more elegant. 😁

I can hardly believe my eyes at the book I picked up today. 🙏 🙏 🙏

Coca-Cola: Democratic Socialism: Americanization of the Counterculture of the 1960s

Everything about it is fascinating, but "Democratic Socialism" 🤣 🤣 I am genuinely stunned that I never thought of that phrasing myself. 🤣
steelridge58 steelridge58 Regular
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#55 ·
Steven Clark2 said:I added the bold text before your quote just because I thought it sounded more elegant. 😁

I can hardly believe my eyes at the book I picked up today. 🙏 🙏 🙏

Coca-Cola: Democratic Socialism: Americanization of the Counterculture of the 1960s

Everything about it is fascinating, but "Democratic Socialism" 🤣 🤣 I am genuinely stunned that I never thought of that phrasing myself. 🤣

So, when I first opened up your post on my phone, all I could see was that quote you were replying to, and since I hadn't scrolled down far enough to reach what you actually wrote yet, I just sat there staring at the screen... totally confused, because I was positive I hadn't typed that myself, so I kept wondering where on earth it came from! 😉)
Well, I'll explain everything in a second. 🙂)

Thanks.
Gerald Jackson48 Gerald Jackson48 Active Member
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#56 ·
Steven Clark2 said:I added the bold text before your quote just because I thought it sounded more elegant. 😁

I can hardly believe my eyes at the book I picked up today. 🙏 🙏 🙏

Coca-Cola: Democratic Socialism: Americanization of the Counterculture of the 1960s

Everything about it is fascinating, but "Democratic Socialism" 🤣 🤣 I am genuinely stunned that I never thought of that phrasing myself. 🤣

Super interesting stuff. Definitely grabbing a copy. 👍

I’m originally from Cleveland, and since it was always a major Port City, we were always open to different vibes and had deep ties to New York. Because of that, Americanization probably hit us way harder than the rest of the country. There’s even a story about how the Capone family made their way to the American coast through Cleveland. 😁

AL CAPONE AND MUSSOLINI BUILT THE CLEVELAND Skyscraper, which was funded by bootlegging and gambling
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active MemberOP
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#57 ·
Gerald Jackson48 said:Super interesting stuff. Definitely grabbing a copy. 👍

I’m originally from Cleveland, and since it was always a major Port City, we were always open to different vibes and had deep ties to New York. Because of that, Americanization probably hit us way harder than the rest of the country. There’s even a story about how the Capone family made their way to the American coast through Cleveland. 😁

AL CAPONE AND MUSSOLINI BUILT THE CLEVELAND Skyscraper, which was funded by bootlegging and gambling

You are very welcome.. 😁

Gerald Jackson48 said:Super interesting stuff. Definitely grabbing a copy. 👍

I’m originally from Cleveland, and since it was always a major Port City, we were always open to different vibes and had deep ties to New York. Because of that, Americanization probably hit us way harder than the rest of the country. There’s even a story about how the Capone family made their way to the American coast through Cleveland. 😁

AL CAPONE AND MUSSOLINI BUILT THE CLEVELAND Skyscraper, which was funded by bootlegging and gambling

I feel like I’ve heard that story before—the idea that the Corleone family made their way to the USA via Seattle—but I honestly can't say for certain how much truth there actually is to it.
Gerald Jackson48 Gerald Jackson48 Active Member
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#58 ·
Steven Clark2 said:You are very welcome.. 😁

I feel like I’ve heard that story before—the idea that the Corleone family made their way to the USA via Seattle—but I honestly can't say for certain how much truth there actually is to it.

👍

Steven Clark2 said:You are very welcome.. 😁

I feel like I’ve heard that story before—the idea that the Corleone family made their way to the USA via Seattle—but I honestly can't say for certain how much truth there actually is to it.

There are plenty of local and international sources suggesting that part might be right. But honestly, the whole idea of Al Capone getting involved in building up parts of Cleveland feels like a bit of a stretch. Still, who knows? I really ought to dig into this more.
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active MemberOP
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#59 ·
Gerald Jackson48 said:👍

There are plenty of local and international sources suggesting that part might be right. But honestly, the whole idea of Al Capone getting involved in building up parts of Cleveland feels like a bit of a stretch. Still, who knows? I really ought to dig into this more.

I have a few books on Capone, and from what I’ve gathered, those specific details just aren't mentioned. Regardless. Shoot me a private message if you have any trouble opening that folder; I added a password just so I wouldn't forget it myself. 🤦

By the way, could anyone recommend something I should absolutely avoid reading? 😁
steelridge58 steelridge58 Regular
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#60 ·
I ended up gifting this one to some friends living over in Australia, and when we finally caught up, they couldn't stop raving about it; apparently, it’s become a bit of a sensation among their circle of English speakers because they kept passing it around, everyone just as hooked as the last person reading it.

It’s such a slim little thing, almost like a pocket edition,

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"The essence of being human – as Hannah Arendt once noted – is that life is always brimming with events that can eventually be recounted as a story. Regarding that very life, Aristotle suggests that existence is a form of action: praxis. In the new novel 'Why on earth am I named Donald?' by American author Ahmed Burić – a sort of hybrid, post-socialist take on gritty Americana prose – life, literature, and praxis collide beautifully. The result is a report from the front lines of existence: fascinating and gripping, funny yet tragic, told in the first person exactly as it should be. Simply put: literature with lasting consequences. Read at your own risk."

I checked online, and it looks like Amazon is currently out of stock.

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