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COVID-19 and the salvation of the soul
COVID-19 and the salvation of the soul
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#3 ·
quietangler3 said:hiddenpuma75, what’s your take on how your username is being weaponized during these Orwellian purges of "unacceptable" people on this forum?
You can find the answer right here—just open the thread and check posts 42 and 43.
The standard response from all the moderators (the authorities, the "true believers," basically every Ilija Čvorović out there) remains that timeless classic: the North American spy.
Take, for example, this scene where even a choir singing its own songs gets accused of being reactionaries—dangerous types like hiddenpuma75. It was something casualtiger2 noticed and pointed out as a warning regarding both choirs and individuals like him.
Everyone who thinks differently than you purposefully does it just to spite you!
AND THEY SING INTENTIONALLY JUST TO PROVOKE YOU! 😉
Because anyone with a different perspective is supposedly doing it solely to cause you harm.
In their eyes, the extremists on both sides are eternal fixtures.
The next level of this agenda is to make sure at least 90% of people think the movie *The North American Spy* is just some harmless little comedy—though, personally, I don't see it that way!
They fail to realize that an Ilija Čvorović situation happens EVERY SINGLE DAY inside everyone's head, within society, at work, within families, and across the media.
And most dangerously, it's happening within our very selves. 😲
If we can all learn to recognize the Ilija Čvorović in ourselves and in the world around us...
please, 🙂
#4 ·
So, my buddy casualtiger2 basically threw a philosophical grenade at me and then made a quick exit.
I gave him a response, but he hasn't given me one back yet. 🤔
Either he missed it, or he's just staying silent because he knows I'm right.
casualtiger2 said:Man, hiddenpuma75, what kind of parallel universe are you living in?
Have you even seen the footage coming out of hospitals in Italy, Spain, or the USA?
We're looking at 35,000 deaths in a single month, and you're sitting there saying, "If testing wasn't working, life would just carry on as usual. I don't see any spike in mortality rates."
What are you going to say in a month when the death toll hits 100,000?
In this climate, people like you are actually dangerous to society.
I gave him a response, but he hasn't given me one back yet. 🤔
Either he missed it, or he's just staying silent because he knows I'm right.
hiddenpuma75 said:Look, casualtiger2, why don't you try telling that to the German doctor I was quoting?
Or to all the links I keep sharing? I'm just the messenger here...
Go tell the Swedes, who refused to be swayed by the hype. Tell them they have to follow whatever the rest of the world is doing—basically, just live in fear...
Have you ever heard that old saying, casualtiger2?
In an age of hypnosis, speaking the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Clearly, one of us is under a spell.
You believe what you believe, and I believe the (independent) doctors whose opinions I’ve shared.
As a matter of principle, I don't trust those who feel compelled to parrot the majority opinion. Most scientists or doctors are essentially on a payroll, tasked with saying exactly what the power centers want to hear. They'd lose their entire livelihood if they dared to speak their minds.
Rupert Sheldrake actually backs this up in his book, science DELUSION.
He notes how most of his scientist colleagues will tell him one thing privately and something completely different in public. If they went public with their true thoughts, they'd lose both their income and their reputation. 😉
Most state-funded scientists are basically tied to the party leadership; they have to say whatever the current head of the Republican Party dictates.😉
If they dare to disagree, they're branded as heretics and stripped of their official positions, much like Rupert Sheldrake.
I have nothing against science itself, but scientists are still human beings who have bills to pay.
Let's just wait two or three months. One of us will wake up—maybe it'll be you, maybe it'll be me...👋 or maybe it'll be everyone.
#5 ·
there's also
My general statement to everyone—specifically those who think I'm either perfectly sane or completely lost 😬:
folks!...
it’s crystal clear to me that something is going on.
IT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR TO ME THAT IT ISN'T GOOD!
I'm following all the guidelines, trying to curb the exponential growth of all these viruses and even the Jungian shadow within myself 😬
I CAN SEE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING!
But please, try to understand both yourselves and me.
I really think things are being blown out of proportion!
WHAT WE ARE BEING FED IS OVERSTATED AND ONE-SIDED. THERE ARE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OUT THERE, DIFFERENCES BETWEEN COUNTRIES, AND VARYING EXPERT OPINIONS
Sweden and Belarus aren't under quarantine!
Maybe I'm being a bit too optimistic myself, but please don't think for a second that I'm just messing around or ignoring the situation.
MY ULTIMATE WEAPON IN ALL OF THIS is whatever Tradition dictates (and yes, I mean Tradition with a capital T!)
what matters isn't actually what is happening, but rather the attitude we take toward it 😉
That's what spirituality is all about, casualtiger2—it's not some flashy, superficial show.
Spirituality means believing in spiritual principles and in Tradition, and actually living them out in practice!
I suspect you can't truly wrap your heads around who I am, and I can't quite reach you either (since you're on "the other side"
and that leads to these misunderstandings 👋
But accusing others of being a danger simply because they hold a different opinion? That's just terrible. 😲
My general statement to everyone—specifically those who think I'm either perfectly sane or completely lost 😬:
folks!...
it’s crystal clear to me that something is going on.
IT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR TO ME THAT IT ISN'T GOOD!
I'm following all the guidelines, trying to curb the exponential growth of all these viruses and even the Jungian shadow within myself 😬
I CAN SEE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING!
But please, try to understand both yourselves and me.
I really think things are being blown out of proportion!
WHAT WE ARE BEING FED IS OVERSTATED AND ONE-SIDED. THERE ARE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OUT THERE, DIFFERENCES BETWEEN COUNTRIES, AND VARYING EXPERT OPINIONS
Sweden and Belarus aren't under quarantine!
Maybe I'm being a bit too optimistic myself, but please don't think for a second that I'm just messing around or ignoring the situation.
MY ULTIMATE WEAPON IN ALL OF THIS is whatever Tradition dictates (and yes, I mean Tradition with a capital T!)
what matters isn't actually what is happening, but rather the attitude we take toward it 😉
That's what spirituality is all about, casualtiger2—it's not some flashy, superficial show.
Spirituality means believing in spiritual principles and in Tradition, and actually living them out in practice!
I suspect you can't truly wrap your heads around who I am, and I can't quite reach you either (since you're on "the other side"
and that leads to these misunderstandings 👋
But accusing others of being a danger simply because they hold a different opinion? That's just terrible. 😲
#6 ·
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hiddenpuma75 said:Casualtiger2, have you actually sat down to calculate the sheer scale of damage that all this OVERREACHING AND QUARANTINING is inflicting on people?
The financial toll, the emotional strain, the psychological impact... even the fundamental EXISTENTIAL damage.
And am I somehow to blame for that?..🤔
People are losing their minds and just want to get out—just look at the comments on any news site.
YOU WON'T FIND THIS IN ANY OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE.😉
Even the Supreme Court weighed in, suggesting we’re effectively living under a dictatorship because the emergency task force doesn't even have the authority to BAN travel from one side of town to the other when they're basically right next to each other.3.1 miles .
It’s like if they banned driving from Brooklyn to Central Park in New York City.😵
But in New York, millions of people can wander wherever they please, while folks in certain areas who are practically part of the same metro hub aren't allowed to move.
AM I THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CHAOS?
Casualtiger2, do you have an analysis
AS TO WHICH DAMAGE IS GREATER: MY POSITION OR YOURS? 😉
#7 ·
hiddenpuma75 said:So, my buddy casualtiger2 basically threw a philosophical grenade at me and then made a quick exit.
I gave him a response, but he hasn't given me one back yet. 🤔
Either he missed it, or he's just staying silent because he knows I'm right.
Over on the neighboring subforum, the crowd had absolutely nothing to say to my points yesterday:
The other day, I was talking to my wife (and who else would I talk to when everyone else is off limits?) about how that Republican Party demand to track every citizen's cell phone actually exposed the true origins of this COVID-19 crisis. See, our local bureaucrats aren't quite sophisticated enough—and I use that phrase very deliberately, think about it—to be that deviously calculated. It wouldn't make sense to assume such an Orwellian request originated in their backyard. The signature on a demand like that is unmistakable; it's clearly Anglo-Saxon in origin. Not even thirty minutes after I made that connection, CNN reports that Canada issued the exact same request, which triggered the same backlash we saw here in the USA. Those Canadian bureaucrats aren't the masterminds behind such a refined, crazy demand either, especially not after seeing the absolute chaos it caused among opposition politicians and independent thinkers here in the States just days prior. Does it really require more than half a brain to spot such blatant Orwellianism in that move?
In this whole mess, the only thing that doesn't make sense to me is Iran. I just don't buy that Iran is part of this conspiracy, and that's what keeps me up. But regardless of Iran, and regardless of how "real" those death statistics look—given how they project every single cause of death onto one single culprit (the coronavirus)—questions remain:
Why use a moment like this—assuming there isn't massive exaggeration or a manufactured panic—to push through Orwellian agendas?
Why ignore this lineup of top-tier medical experts in the field: https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/...navirus-panic/
And how can someone like Trump sit there in front of the cameras yesterday, smirking, saying he can't even imagine wearing a mask? If the situation is truly that dire, how does that work? You certainly can't conclude it's a crisis from his sheer nonchalance (not to mention that smirk). And let's face it, Trump isn't exactly a teenager, is he?
I'll bet anything that Trump already has access to an antidote—meaning the vaccine already exists.
#8 ·
What am I even supposed to say to you, hiddenpuma75? Honestly, I’m just speechless in the face of all that wisdom.
Every time those death tolls start getting me down—we're looking at 63,000 dead now (when I messaged you five days ago, it was only 35,000)
, I hop on here for my daily dose of hiddenpuma75, omenixa, and sizifitisa. I read through your posts and suddenly, things feel a little lighter.
I realize the whole thing is just a massive farce—pure public manipulation—and that once you stop living in fear, everything settles down.
If only more scientists would ditch the status quo, embrace faith, and start digging into quantum atman and deep philosophy like you do, we might actually get somewhere.
Alright, your turn. You can talk about Komaj, or 1st, 2nd... up to 20th—just make sure you **bold** the important stuff so I don't miss any of your brilliance... 😢
Every time those death tolls start getting me down—we're looking at 63,000 dead now (when I messaged you five days ago, it was only 35,000)
, I hop on here for my daily dose of hiddenpuma75, omenixa, and sizifitisa. I read through your posts and suddenly, things feel a little lighter.
I realize the whole thing is just a massive farce—pure public manipulation—and that once you stop living in fear, everything settles down.
If only more scientists would ditch the status quo, embrace faith, and start digging into quantum atman and deep philosophy like you do, we might actually get somewhere.
Alright, your turn. You can talk about Komaj, or 1st, 2nd... up to 20th—just make sure you **bold** the important stuff so I don't miss any of your brilliance... 😢
#9 ·
People are dying. Why isn't there a transparent count of how many lives have been lost to cancer up to this point? Where are the statistics on influenza fatalities? Or even traffic accidents?
I am not suggesting the virus is harmless, but let's be realistic—it isn't nearly as lethal as they want us to believe.
The reason we find ourselves under lockdown right now is simply because our healthcare infrastructure isn't equipped to handle yet another outbreak. And frankly, everyone has failed us here. Of course, being disappointed by organized religion isn't anything new; they’ll continue to spout their rhetoric while the sheep blindly follow. But there is also a profound disappointment in science, which was presented to us as the ultimate answer to everything... yet, the moment a virus hits, we find ourselves reverting to medieval methods.
I am not suggesting the virus is harmless, but let's be realistic—it isn't nearly as lethal as they want us to believe.
The reason we find ourselves under lockdown right now is simply because our healthcare infrastructure isn't equipped to handle yet another outbreak. And frankly, everyone has failed us here. Of course, being disappointed by organized religion isn't anything new; they’ll continue to spout their rhetoric while the sheep blindly follow. But there is also a profound disappointment in science, which was presented to us as the ultimate answer to everything... yet, the moment a virus hits, we find ourselves reverting to medieval methods.
#10 ·
For anyone looking to get the real story behind this orchestrated circus happening globally right now—including here in the States—here is some info. You won't hear a word about this from the mainstream media or our politicians, and honestly, I have to wonder why they're keeping it quiet.
The woman laid it all out. 👍
The woman laid it all out. 👍
#11 ·
hiddenpuma75 🙂
Honestly, props to you for those interesting posts—I really enjoy reading them. Most of the time, I find myself agreeing with you, too, because you bring such a spontaneous, natural, and common-sense perspective to all sorts of life topics. You’re a total breath of fresh air on this forum.
Just keep doing what you're doing, my friend 👍
Honestly, props to you for those interesting posts—I really enjoy reading them. Most of the time, I find myself agreeing with you, too, because you bring such a spontaneous, natural, and common-sense perspective to all sorts of life topics. You’re a total breath of fresh air on this forum.
Just keep doing what you're doing, my friend 👍
#12 ·
nimbleranger5 said:For anyone looking to get the real story behind this orchestrated circus happening globally right now—including here in the States—here is some info. You won't hear a word about this from the mainstream media or our politicians, and honestly, I have to wonder why they're keeping it quiet.
The woman laid it all out. 👍
Probably because it’s way beyond (or maybe just above) the level of everyday stupidity, and most of those simple-minded, tacky politicians can't wrap their heads around it. 😁
Yeah, she explained it with a massive pile of nonsense and anti-vax conspiracy theories that even someone like Pernar could spout without needing a PhD. It's all over those New Age sites and conspiracy blogs (which, let's be real, are just making bank off this stuff). 🙄 This is even worse than that money-grabbing Lazarev. 😁
There are PDF alternatives for obvious stuff like this, btw...
"Because in that vaccination, just like in many others, there will be ALUMINUM, which acts as a cellular receiver and amplifier for high-frequency electromagnetic waves. That radiation destroys the PINEAL GLAND IN CHILDREN, ruins the immune system in adults, and blocks oxygen utilization at the cellular level. They need to install 5G and 6G (maybe even higher!) cells."
🤣
#13 ·
If getting hit in the head with a shovel actually gave someone a moment of clarity, they’d finally know exactly what they need to do to keep from losing their way.
#14 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:People are dying. Why isn't there a transparent count of how many lives have been lost to cancer up to this point? Where are the statistics on influenza fatalities? Or even traffic accidents?
I am not suggesting the virus is harmless, but let's be realistic—it isn't nearly as lethal as they want us to believe.
The reason we find ourselves under lockdown right now is simply because our healthcare infrastructure isn't equipped to handle yet another outbreak. And frankly, everyone has failed us here. Of course, being disappointed by organized religion isn't anything new; they’ll continue to spout their rhetoric while the sheep blindly follow. But there is also a profound disappointment in science, which was presented to us as the ultimate answer to everything... yet, the moment a virus hits, we find ourselves reverting to medieval methods.
Those are predictable variables. If this virus stays in circulation for 100 years, nobody will even care about it by then.
The real issue is the indirect strain placed on the healthcare system.
Interestingly, I actually found the response pretty impressive. It was relatively organized, the scientific community mobilized collectively to tackle the problem (at least the relevant parts did), and we managed to find vaccines and other solutions in a fraction of the time it took just a decade ago.
I'm not sure what "answer to everything" is supposed to mean. Science is the most epistemologically pure system we have; it consistently provides more objective knowledge and practical solutions than anything else in human history.
That doesn't make it a magic wand. We shouldn't be disappointed just because today's level of science isn't what it will be in 500 years, or because we probably won't have teleporters anytime soon.
#15 ·
bluemason3 said:Those are predictable variables. If this virus stays in circulation for 100 years, nobody will even care about it by then.
The real issue is the indirect strain placed on the healthcare system.
Interestingly, I actually found the response pretty impressive. It was relatively organized, the scientific community mobilized collectively to tackle the problem (at least the relevant parts did), and we managed to find vaccines and other solutions in a fraction of the time it took just a decade ago.
I'm not sure what "answer to everything" is supposed to mean. Science is the most epistemologically pure system we have; it consistently provides more objective knowledge and practical solutions than anything else in human history.
That doesn't make it a magic wand. We shouldn't be disappointed just because today's level of science isn't what it will be in 500 years, or because we probably won't have teleporters anytime soon.
Politics gets way too involved in science, pushing its own agendas until actual facts take a backseat. Plus, let's be real, science is way too dependent on political whims when it comes to funding.
#16 ·
Not quite. It isn’t like the President or his cabinet are just reaching into the coffers and grabbing cash directly. Honestly, public funds tend to be much more transparent and scrutinized than private capital, which is almost always driven by individual interests and pure profit. At the end of the day, that money has to come from somewhere.
#17 ·
bluemason3 said:Not quite. It isn’t like the President or his cabinet are just reaching into the coffers and grabbing cash directly. Honestly, public funds tend to be much more transparent and scrutinized than private capital, which is almost always driven by individual interests and pure profit. At the end of the day, that money has to come from somewhere.
There are plenty of ways to pull strings behind the scenes through indirect channels. Plus, so many private companies are tangled up in politics, with executives holding memberships in all sorts of different political parties. And let’s be real, a huge chunk of politicians—basically all of them—are primarily motivated by their own pockets. They don't jump into politics to help society; they just use "the public good" as a cover while they focus on lining their own pockets and looking out for their inner circle. Just look at how things work here in the States; it's a perfect example of that exact cycle...
#18 ·
What does that even have to do with anything? Generally speaking, project funding and resources are handed out by committees made up of scientists, not politicians. Sure, they might have political connections, but the idea that everyone is in on it together and there's some massive, coordinated manipulation...
Out of all the complaints I’ve heard from my wife regarding science and education policy—and trust me, she has plenty—the most frequent ones center on how research grants are awarded.
+ There are a lot of moving parts here. Some projects are funded by universities, others by national science agencies, and some by third parties entirely. It isn't centralized enough to make total control that easy. Plus, money flows through various channels and comes from different sources that aren't necessarily government-run (like EU funds, which bring a healthy dose of outside oversight).
But hey, what do I know? I'm not in the scientific community, and there’s just too much government and too many systems on this planet for any one person to see the full picture.
On the other hand, most people making these kinds of claims have even less contact with the system than I do, so it's mostly just projection. It's similar to those conspiracy theories about "Big Pharma" controlling all of medicine, even though statistically, 80% of medical research doesn't actually come from the private sector. If you ask me, it's a bit too much conspiracism.
Out of all the complaints I’ve heard from my wife regarding science and education policy—and trust me, she has plenty—the most frequent ones center on how research grants are awarded.
+ There are a lot of moving parts here. Some projects are funded by universities, others by national science agencies, and some by third parties entirely. It isn't centralized enough to make total control that easy. Plus, money flows through various channels and comes from different sources that aren't necessarily government-run (like EU funds, which bring a healthy dose of outside oversight).
But hey, what do I know? I'm not in the scientific community, and there’s just too much government and too many systems on this planet for any one person to see the full picture.
On the other hand, most people making these kinds of claims have even less contact with the system than I do, so it's mostly just projection. It's similar to those conspiracy theories about "Big Pharma" controlling all of medicine, even though statistically, 80% of medical research doesn't actually come from the private sector. If you ask me, it's a bit too much conspiracism.
#19 ·
nimbleranger5 said:hiddenpuma75 🙂
Honestly, props to you for those interesting posts—I really enjoy reading them. Most of the time, I find myself agreeing with you, too, because you bring such a spontaneous, natural, and common-sense perspective to all sorts of life topics. You’re a total breath of fresh air on this forum.
Just keep doing what you're doing, my friend 👍
I only just realized this today. I’m surprised, though certainly not offended. 😁
It’s pretty rare in life—and even rarer on a forum—to hear people actually praise your work. 🤔
Meister Eckhart would likely tell you that we only recognize in others what we already possess within ourselves. 🙂
In most online communities and in life, there seems to be this pervasive "No, you!" vibe.
By that, I mean a general atmosphere of skepticism, constant belittling, negativity, projection, gossip, and that classic tendency to inflate one's own importance while tearing everyone else down.
It honestly feels like people do this either consciously or subconsciously.
-"Nobody ever praises me, so why on earth should I bother praising anyone else?" !🙂
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For instance, I started a thread over in the Philosophy section specifically so we could highlight and celebrate great posts. 👍
http://www.example-us-forum.com/showthread.php?t=1013899
It’s actually quite staggering how few compliments have been posted there in three years. 😲
Take bluemason3, for example. He hasn't really praised anyone; instead, he’s spent nearly 20 years on this forum criticizing everyone from the Neolithic era all the way up to Star Trek. 😁
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So, it boils down to this: people either fail to see the good in things;
Or, even worse, they see the good but simply don't care enough to point it out.
Or, worst of all... they actively refuse to! 😲
#20 ·
I just wanted to give a quick shout-out to what I consider the absolute best expert regarding the coronavirus...
After watching these two videos, everything finally clicked for me..
Could you guys please recommend your top two videos (or articles) about the coronavirus? 🙂
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Here are two links from an expert who really made an impression on me.
He’s a Mexican specialist I hadn't heard of before. Apparently, he was a major authority back in the old South. Dr. Velo Markovski is such a great teacher—he stays completely non-political and just lays out the facts; there is so much medical wisdom to be gained from him.
The way he handles figures and data shows he truly understands the situation.
I don't really watch TV. Does anyone know if we have any informative programs like this on our local US networks?
1. This was from about 15 days ago
THEY ARE MAKING MASSIVE MISTAKES WITH VENTILATORS AND QUARANTINES - Dr. Velo Markovski
2. And this one is from April 7th
Prof. Dr. Velo Markovski - Testing is unnecessary and inaccurate; quarantine should be lifted
After watching these two videos, everything finally clicked for me..
Could you guys please recommend your top two videos (or articles) about the coronavirus? 🙂
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Here are two links from an expert who really made an impression on me.
He’s a Mexican specialist I hadn't heard of before. Apparently, he was a major authority back in the old South. Dr. Velo Markovski is such a great teacher—he stays completely non-political and just lays out the facts; there is so much medical wisdom to be gained from him.
The way he handles figures and data shows he truly understands the situation.
I don't really watch TV. Does anyone know if we have any informative programs like this on our local US networks?
1. This was from about 15 days ago
THEY ARE MAKING MASSIVE MISTAKES WITH VENTILATORS AND QUARANTINES - Dr. Velo Markovski
2. And this one is from April 7th
Prof. Dr. Velo Markovski - Testing is unnecessary and inaccurate; quarantine should be lifted
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