Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

So, to avoid any weird drama with these checkpoints, I headed down to the Police Department this morning to try and register my current address. But nope—registration is totally off the table right now because there isn't a soul working at the Ministry of the Interior; everything is just shut down indefinitely. I asked the officer at the info desk (who was literally the only person there) what I should even do if I get pulled over while my official residence is listed somewhere else. And get this—the cop just goes, "Well, they know registration isn't possible right now..." Like, seriously!?

It’s pretty wild that even the online registration system isn't working either. I guess the folks at the Ministry of the Interior think this virus attacks computers too...

vividranger8 said:So, to avoid any weird drama with these checkpoints, I headed down to the Police Department this morning to try and register my current address. But nope—registration is totally off the table right now because there isn't a soul working at the Ministry of the Interior; everything is just shut down indefinitely. I asked the officer at the info desk (who was literally the only person there) what I should even do if I get pulled over while my official residence is listed somewhere else. And get this—the cop just goes, "Well, they know registration isn't possible right now..." Like, seriously!?

It’s pretty wild that even the online registration system isn't working either. I guess the folks at the Ministry of the Interior think this virus attacks computers too...

They've lost it.

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Gerald Thompson62 said:When someone in the public sector claims they "pay taxes," it’s honestly a bit ridiculous—you don't actually pay taxes. You receive a salary that has already been taxed via the private sector's contributions. In accounting terms, you're just a transitional line item. Essentially, the public sector shouldn't be paying taxes on its own payroll; there's zero logic in moving the same pool of money around just to watch it circulate.

Look, once the private sector stops contributing (which is exactly what’s happening right now), how long do you think those public sector salaries can actually be sustained? How are you going to pay taxes when there won't even be salaries left to tax?

You’ll be the very last ones to face layoffs in the public sector—the politicians? Not a chance.

So, here's the deal: public sector employees should be the loudest voices fighting to protect the private sector. As the Americans say... "I pay taxes for public services, so you work for me." But around here, it’s an absolute absurdity where the public sector thinks it’s doing the private sector a favor by providing jobs. It’s a holdover from the old regime that the current party just carried over—they let the private guys do all the actual work.🤔

Spot on...
My brother-in-law works for the Police Department, and he loves repeating this mantra like he’s some big shot just because he pays a ton of taxes. 🤦

Look, the joke is that he sees this "transferring nothing into emptiness" happening right on his own paycheck. It says there, right there in black and white—tax is this much, blah blah blah...
It's pretty obvious he isn't thinking much further than that, and honestly, it's not like he’d even bother stressing over it if he did.

On the other hand, us private citizens paying out of our own pockets? We actually give this some thought.
And we just take a massive pile of stuff the public sector handles for granted, acting like it all just magically fell from the sky.

We aren't all that different.
The biggest issue is that politics has successfully pitted us against each other. Now we just spend all our time bickering with one another instead of actually going after the people who are truly responsible.
So, here's the deal: the public sector blames the private sector, the private sector blames the public sector, and everyone's just pointing fingers at veterans and retirees. It’s always the same old story—veterans and seniors getting squeezed by both sides because one side isn't paying enough, the other isn't doing enough, blah blah blah. Same nonsense, different day.
And everyone just stays quiet about these moronic decisions that are collectively screwing with our heads. 🤦

So, here’s the deal for today: how on earth is Čazmatrans going to manage driving police officers, medical staff, and whatever else back and forth between Kutin and D.C.? From one end of town to the other... good luck with that.
Oh, great. Just brilliant. They crammed a whole crowd of people into some ancient, pathetic bus just to get them moving. Typical. 37 miles And I'm coughing one after another...
And then they go and mess with people commuting by bike, on foot, or driving themselves to work between two or three moronic municipalities that are barely a mile apart. 🤦

vividranger8 said:So, to avoid any weird drama with these checkpoints, I headed down to the Police Department this morning to try and register my current address. But nope—registration is totally off the table right now because there isn't a soul working at the Ministry of the Interior; everything is just shut down indefinitely. I asked the officer at the info desk (who was literally the only person there) what I should even do if I get pulled over while my official residence is listed somewhere else. And get this—the cop just goes, "Well, they know registration isn't possible right now..." Like, seriously!?

It’s pretty wild that even the online registration system isn't working either. I guess the folks at the Ministry of the Interior think this virus attacks computers too...

Now go ahead and tell me this isn't just another tiny pebble in the massive mosaic of chaos we're living through.

Jose Scott3 said:Could the private sector actually push the government to start slashing public sector wages and cutting jobs during a crisis? Or is that just wishful thinking...
Is it even possible for the private sector to... It draws a line between different parts of the public sector...?

Working in the public sector, I get it—you’ve got your fair share of parasites and people just coasting to keep their cushy jobs, but you also have folks who actually put in the work...
Same goes for private business owners... you get some real legends, and then you get the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel losers...

Look, I'm sorry, but people in the private sector don't get to claim that everyone working in the public sector is just lazy...

In my case, it’s actually the exact opposite. I spent an entire year after graduation hunting for work strictly in the private sector, but man, it just wasn't happening... Now, I'd basically be trading a government job in my field just to land something in private industry...

So, what are we supposed to do about the fact that certain jobs only exist in public service and don't exist in the private sector, at least here in America?...
Not saying this about myself, just so we're clear...

Look, the private sector is looking for relief, plain and simple, and if the government doesn't step up to provide it, there just won't be any money left for those public sector salaries—those folks in government jobs need to understand that reality clearly.

But, at the same time, the private sector has already come forward with very specific, very precise proposals on how this can actually be handled. Honestly, there’s really no reason to keep re-typing these exact same measures every single time someone calls for them, just to avoid bruising the egos of people who think they'll be affected, even though they're supposedly contributing to society.

Gerald Thompson62 said:And yet, everyone was laughing at me when I said we were sliding backward and that this situation was unsustainable...

Even in our neck of the woods, it's a tiny town where you can only grab the basics at the local corner store...

No meat, no fish, none of that stuff... and getting to a Lidl, Walmart, or Kaufland? Forget it without a pass. You can't just call them up, and if you try emailing, they tell you to fill out a request, sign it, then send it back...

Which basically means print it, fill it out, sign it, and scan it... honestly, how many people even have a printer, a scanner, AND email access sitting around...

Jack Cook7 said:Good Lord... when the government and the city are this incompetent at actually protecting people...

By cutting public transit, all they did was create massive crowds on the few lines left running, plus now you've got four or five people crammed into one car just to get to work without any actual social distancing.

George Murphy12 said:Even in our neck of the woods, it's a tiny town where you can only grab the basics at the local corner store...

No meat, no fish, none of that stuff... and getting to a Lidl, Walmart, or Kaufland? Forget it without a pass. You can't just call them up, and if you try emailing, they tell you to fill out a request, sign it, then send it back...

Which basically means print it, fill it out, sign it, and scan it... honestly, how many people even have a printer, a scanner, AND email access sitting around...

If you happen to have a digital pen, maybe you could just do everything in Word and send it over without the whole mess of printing, photographing, and sending.

Gerald Thompson62 said:And yet, everyone was laughing at me when I said we were sliding backward and that this situation was unsustainable...

I don't recall ever laughing at you. 🤔

Jose Scott3 said:Could the private sector actually push the government to start slashing public sector wages and cutting jobs during a crisis? Or is that just wishful thinking...
Is it even possible for the private sector to... It draws a line between different parts of the public sector...?

Working in the public sector, I get it—you’ve got your fair share of parasites and people just coasting to keep their cushy jobs, but you also have folks who actually put in the work...
Same goes for private business owners... you get some real legends, and then you get the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel losers...

Look, I'm sorry, but people in the private sector don't get to claim that everyone working in the public sector is just lazy...

In my case, it’s actually the exact opposite. I spent an entire year after graduation hunting for work strictly in the private sector, but man, it just wasn't happening... Now, I'd basically be trading a government job in my field just to land something in private industry...

So, what are we supposed to do about the fact that certain jobs only exist in public service and don't exist in the private sector, at least here in America?...
Not saying this about myself, just so we're clear...

Are you talking about roles like "advisor to the advisor of the agency director"? Or maybe an assistant secretary for some pointless office? A junior clerk for the head stamp-presser? Sure, those kinds of positions only exist in government service and you won't find them in the private sector. So, what's actually your point here?

Don't try to hide behind professions that are actually essential to the state service—roles without which the world would stop spinning. We aren't all idiots in this backwater town...

So, we actually sent in a request for passes for our folks at the Municipality yesterday—though, I guess, we're still waiting to hear back. In the meantime, I decided to take a bit of a gamble and tried driving into the City just to see what the vibe was like... and honestly? There aren't any Police Department roadblocks anywhere! So, it seems like you can pretty much move around freely right now. Those passes are really mostly intended for getting to those more remote spots.

Frank Flores63 said:If you happen to have a digital pen, maybe you could just do everything in Word and send it over without the whole mess of printing, photographing, and sending.

Thanks, I'll figure it out... 😁just speaking generally about people living in smaller towns and their age groups.

Frank Flores63 said:If you happen to have a digital pen, maybe you could just do everything in Word and send it over without the whole mess of printing, photographing, and sending.

Oh yeah, sure, because telling a 75-year-old who has to drive to the next town over in 1.9 miles just to pick up their meds to start using a digital pen sounds like a totally realistic plan...

dustymarlin10 said:Oh yeah, sure, because telling a 75-year-old who has to drive to the next town over in 1.9 miles just to pick up their meds to start using a digital pen sounds like a totally realistic plan...

then honestly, they should just shut down his whole town.

George Murphy12 said:Thanks, I'll figure it out... 😁just speaking generally about people living in smaller towns and their age groups.

I get you, looks like we're in the same boat. 😁

You can't do it like that.

And what happens to the chief, the secretary, the various department heads, and their official vehicles?

It doesn't work that way; the Municipality lives forever (and dies last).

Larry Walker24 said:then honestly, they should just shut down his whole town.

Honestly, we might as well scrap all the Municipalities and just downgrade the Counties to their level

hollowtrucker77 said:Honestly, we might as well scrap all the Municipalities and just downgrade the Counties to their level

👋 👋 👋

dustymarlin10 said:Oh yeah, sure, because telling a 75-year-old who has to drive to the next town over in 1.9 miles just to pick up their meds to start using a digital pen sounds like a totally realistic plan...

That’s exactly what I told this forum member, and honestly, regarding our seniors... what else can I say? It's a total mess.
As I mentioned here yesterday—I'm still sitting around waiting for a response from Town Hall. It's been two days, I still don't have my permit, and the people at the municipality aren't even returning calls.
The whole system is completely broken, plain and simple.

Look, once they start dissolving municipalities, we’re going to see some massive savings

On the Island, you've got two different cities, each with its own mayor, secretaries, and all that other garbage, right there on the Island 🤦 🤦