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Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#61 ·
Jonathan Smith12 said:But honestly, let it happen! If the virus isn't spreading because of it, then I suppose that’s the whole point, right? ☕☕☕☕

Anyway, I realize I'm drifting quite far off the main topic here, but I truly feel that anyone with even a shred of common sense has already grasped the situation, and frankly, those who haven't probably never will.

But what exactly isn't it going to do?

It’s not like it’s skipping from Person A to Person C while bypassing Person B.
The catch is, Person A and B are in the same city, while C is somewhere else entirely.

NO shit, Sherlock.
Drew Johnson2 Drew Johnson2 Active Member
116 messages
joined Jan 2018
#62 ·
My brother’s residency permit is set to expire right in the middle of April. His permanent address is actually all the way out in 249 miles. He just realized this morning while he was on the phone with the FBI, and apparently, there is absolutely no way to extend his stay, change his residence, or do anything of the sort at the moment... Since he works locally and falls under the category of essential services, I don't see them barring him from his job, nor do I expect the situation to return to some semblance of normalcy anytime soon...
Well, I suppose he'll just have to exist in a state of legal limbo until they decide to lock him up.
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#63 ·
velvetstag5 said:The whole idea is to try and contain the virus to specific locations. That's exactly how China did it, and in just

a month and a half, they crushed the infection! It takes discipline and a firm hand. No complaining allowed.

We're talking about a Country of 1,400,000,000 people!!!

Even if people think the Chinese are dirty or poor, they're still teaching the modern world a lesson here.


And don't believe the hype—you can't just wander around Washington, D.C. however you please.

How are you supposed to limit the virus to certain spots when there are infected people all over America?

A travel ban between counties might have made sense to avoid situations like last Sunday—but harassing people who commute to cities for work every single day is just stupid.
crimsonranger3 crimsonranger3 Member
43 messages
joined Oct 2020
#64 ·
Jose Scott3 said:Where'd you get that from? You can totally get away with it if you're all in the same spot or nearby, and as long as there's fewer than five of you... provided nobody's stuck in quarantine...

I hope you realize what a total load of crap you just spewed. That hospital connection is a joke... if things were actually serious, they'd know that "two confirmed cases" is basically nothing on paper. It means there are at least five times more people actually sick in that environment—maybe even ten times more if you count the ones showing zero symptoms. Unless your city is some medieval fortress that literally locked down every single gate the second the infection showed up... 🤦

But I am leaving my residence. That means traveling through several small towns to get there, and from what I can tell, that counts as violating the lockdown.
Jose Scott3 said:Where'd you get that from? You can totally get away with it if you're all in the same spot or nearby, and as long as there's fewer than five of you... provided nobody's stuck in quarantine...

I hope you realize what a total load of crap you just spewed. That hospital connection is a joke... if things were actually serious, they'd know that "two confirmed cases" is basically nothing on paper. It means there are at least five times more people actually sick in that environment—maybe even ten times more if you count the ones showing zero symptoms. Unless your city is some medieval fortress that literally locked down every single gate the second the infection showed up... 🤦

The median incubation period is about 6 days. If there haven't been any new recorded cases in 13 days, then either everyone is handling the virus exceptionally well and building immunity, or those three infected individuals (who tested positive because they traveled from abroad—one from Italy, one from Bavaria, and one who had contact with the first two) really are the only ones infected.
Again, I'm not saying we should scrap all measures as if nothing happened, but we shouldn't apply the exact same restrictions to all of America.
Lawrence Reed3 Lawrence Reed3 Active Member
141 messages
joined Dec 2021
#65 ·
crimsonranger3 said:Goddammit. I am not infected. There have been three cases in my city—one recovered, so that leaves two. I have a contact at the hospital, so I know for a fact there are only two active cases in a city of 50,000. And because of this, I can't even get in my car and drive out to some village 6.2 miles further out to enjoy nature, go for a walk, or ride my bike. Why? Because of a couple of Infected Washington, D.C. residents who lost their minds over an earthquake and falling facades and decided to flee? To hell with the Government and all of you supporting this. Restricting the ENTIRE country just because of a few specialists in Washington, D.C.? Give me a break.

And it won't be two weeks; this nonsense is going to drag on for two months. Since last Monday, I haven't been around people because I respect the rules. I haven't hung out with friends because I respect the rules. And frankly, I'm losing my mind because I am not some antisocial cactus that can survive two weeks without human contact. Even if I could manage two weeks, it wouldn't stop at two. You'll see what happens when people snap due to these restrictions being rolled out en masse just for Washington, D.C. They're isolating the whole country because of them. Absolute bullshit.

I followed the measures as they were introduced, even though I thought they were excessive. Now, it has reached the point where I am physically sick with anxiety over whether I will catch the virus and die, versus the desperate need to just leave the house and be with other PEOPLE. Humans are SOCIAL beings, not moles.

I've basically given myself until the end of April. For Easter, I'm planning to stay close to family, but if this drags on longer, I don't care. The BBQ for May Day and all those birthdays coming up—everything is going according to plan, quarantine or no quarantine.
Until then, I'm just chilling, running, and working out outside (regardless of those strips they put on the gym equipment—those can just be peeled off), and stuff like that. I need to get back in shape over the next two months if it's time to kick off swimming season.
mellowseal1 mellowseal1 Member
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#66 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:How are you supposed to limit the virus to certain spots when there are infected people all over America?

A travel ban between counties might have made sense to avoid situations like last Sunday—but harassing people who commute to cities for work every single day is just stupid.

I don't get it either, I've already mentioned that before.

In Washington, D.C., you can basically wander around normally without showing any kind of clearance...
Jose Scott3 Jose Scott3 Member
31 messages
joined Mar 2023
#67 ·
Jack Cook7 said:Are you seriously guaranteeing me a full month on this? Because if that warranty turns out to be total BS, who’s actually footing the bill for the "repair"?

Quentin:
Jose Scott3
Short and sweet: beat it.
That’s just how we talk around here.

Quentin:
Look, everyone needs to chill—this whole budget situation isn't nearly as dramatic as people are making it out to be.

Just so you know, besides the doctors, the military, the cops, and the firefighters, there are plenty of other folks working in public institutions who actually show up to an office every single day instead of working from home. You really think they should all get bumped up to minimum wage too?

Man, your whole post sounds like "Revenge of the Private Sector, Part 2" or some weirdly specific cheerleader chant from Miroslav’s squad.

Honestly, they should just get it over with already: set one flat salary for everyone working in government and public service based on the national average here in the States. Just level the playing field! That way, politicians and all those useless bureaucrats would actually take a temporary pay cut, while our police officers, firefighters, nurses, and the rest of the real heroes would see a temporary bump up. Simple, right?
I'll be sure to come back and bug you at the end of the year once we're stuck staring at a $130 billion budget with a massive $50 billion deficit.

What do you guys think happens when our workforce drops from the current 1.3 million—with maybe 800,000 in the private sector—down to something like 500,000 in private business? What on earth is the government going to do with all those extra employees sitting around in state agencies and massive corporations? Like, what services are they even going to provide that someone would actually pay for? And more importantly, how would anyone afford it? Is a smart Government just gonna start hiking up Credit? Or maybe they’ll just sell off everything they own?

Honestly, they should just slash their salaries now and then slowly freeze them out or lay them off. It’s way better than all of us going broke at once just because The Party is playing backward games to protect their voter base.

This is actually a perfect excuse to trim down those 550+ townships and 130+ cities into a much more sensible 100+ total, kind of like how they do it in Denmark. The same goes for state and local agencies—take Bandic's sanitation department, for instance. They ballooned from 1,000 employees to 2,000, yet trash is still piling up in the streets! Lately, they've even started pulling recycling bins and trash cans off the sidewalks just to "reduce the workload." I mean, no bins, no trash, everything looks clean, right? Pure genius. Meanwhile, they've got hundreds of municipal inspectors out there just making sure citizens are walking properly down the street.

The real crisis in this country isn't some virus or an earthquake; it's the incompetent government that's been handing out jobs to their buddies for thirty years straight. Out of those 800,000 people in the private sector, you don't even have 300,000 who actually operate independently from the government. A huge chunk of them rely on businesses that depend on government contracts, so if those contracts vanish, they go down too. The state basically controls 80% of the GDP. That is the real sickness in America.

That's why we need a total systemic collapse. We need it so we can finally kick all those cronies out to where they belong—all hundred thousand members of The Party and their entire extended families.

Look, I'm not the one making the calls here. It’s the researchers... the ones who actually studied how long the COVID virus sticks around on different surfaces and stays active in people who've already recovered...

Jack Cook7 said:Are you seriously guaranteeing me a full month on this? Because if that warranty turns out to be total BS, who’s actually footing the bill for the "repair"?

Quentin:
Jose Scott3
Short and sweet: beat it.
That’s just how we talk around here.

Quentin:
Look, everyone needs to chill—this whole budget situation isn't nearly as dramatic as people are making it out to be.

Just so you know, besides the doctors, the military, the cops, and the firefighters, there are plenty of other folks working in public institutions who actually show up to an office every single day instead of working from home. You really think they should all get bumped up to minimum wage too?

Man, your whole post sounds like "Revenge of the Private Sector, Part 2" or some weirdly specific cheerleader chant from Miroslav’s squad.

Honestly, they should just get it over with already: set one flat salary for everyone working in government and public service based on the national average here in the States. Just level the playing field! That way, politicians and all those useless bureaucrats would actually take a temporary pay cut, while our police officers, firefighters, nurses, and the rest of the real heroes would see a temporary bump up. Simple, right?
I'll be sure to come back and bug you at the end of the year once we're stuck staring at a $130 billion budget with a massive $50 billion deficit.

What do you guys think happens when our workforce drops from the current 1.3 million—with maybe 800,000 in the private sector—down to something like 500,000 in private business? What on earth is the government going to do with all those extra employees sitting around in state agencies and massive corporations? Like, what services are they even going to provide that someone would actually pay for? And more importantly, how would anyone afford it? Is a smart Government just gonna start hiking up Credit? Or maybe they’ll just sell off everything they own?

Honestly, they should just slash their salaries now and then slowly freeze them out or lay them off. It’s way better than all of us going broke at once just because The Party is playing backward games to protect their voter base.

This is actually a perfect excuse to trim down those 550+ townships and 130+ cities into a much more sensible 100+ total, kind of like how they do it in Denmark. The same goes for state and local agencies—take Bandic's sanitation department, for instance. They ballooned from 1,000 employees to 2,000, yet trash is still piling up in the streets! Lately, they've even started pulling recycling bins and trash cans off the sidewalks just to "reduce the workload." I mean, no bins, no trash, everything looks clean, right? Pure genius. Meanwhile, they've got hundreds of municipal inspectors out there just making sure citizens are walking properly down the street.

The real crisis in this country isn't some virus or an earthquake; it's the incompetent government that's been handing out jobs to their buddies for thirty years straight. Out of those 800,000 people in the private sector, you don't even have 300,000 who actually operate independently from the government. A huge chunk of them rely on businesses that depend on government contracts, so if those contracts vanish, they go down too. The state basically controls 80% of the GDP. That is the real sickness in America.

That's why we need a total systemic collapse. We need it so we can finally kick all those cronies out to where they belong—all hundred thousand members of The Party and their entire extended families.

Do you only threaten your own people with being fired like this, or is this just how you treat anyone who isn't part of your inner circle? Because it’s more than obvious you're just using this as an excuse to... Not exactly selective... Just some sympathy for those who don't fit into your little circle...

Jack Cook7 said:Are you seriously guaranteeing me a full month on this? Because if that warranty turns out to be total BS, who’s actually footing the bill for the "repair"?

Quentin:
Jose Scott3
Short and sweet: beat it.
That’s just how we talk around here.

Quentin:
Look, everyone needs to chill—this whole budget situation isn't nearly as dramatic as people are making it out to be.

Just so you know, besides the doctors, the military, the cops, and the firefighters, there are plenty of other folks working in public institutions who actually show up to an office every single day instead of working from home. You really think they should all get bumped up to minimum wage too?

Man, your whole post sounds like "Revenge of the Private Sector, Part 2" or some weirdly specific cheerleader chant from Miroslav’s squad.

Honestly, they should just get it over with already: set one flat salary for everyone working in government and public service based on the national average here in the States. Just level the playing field! That way, politicians and all those useless bureaucrats would actually take a temporary pay cut, while our police officers, firefighters, nurses, and the rest of the real heroes would see a temporary bump up. Simple, right?
I'll be sure to come back and bug you at the end of the year once we're stuck staring at a $130 billion budget with a massive $50 billion deficit.

What do you guys think happens when our workforce drops from the current 1.3 million—with maybe 800,000 in the private sector—down to something like 500,000 in private business? What on earth is the government going to do with all those extra employees sitting around in state agencies and massive corporations? Like, what services are they even going to provide that someone would actually pay for? And more importantly, how would anyone afford it? Is a smart Government just gonna start hiking up Credit? Or maybe they’ll just sell off everything they own?

Honestly, they should just slash their salaries now and then slowly freeze them out or lay them off. It’s way better than all of us going broke at once just because The Party is playing backward games to protect their voter base.

This is actually a perfect excuse to trim down those 550+ townships and 130+ cities into a much more sensible 100+ total, kind of like how they do it in Denmark. The same goes for state and local agencies—take Bandic's sanitation department, for instance. They ballooned from 1,000 employees to 2,000, yet trash is still piling up in the streets! Lately, they've even started pulling recycling bins and trash cans off the sidewalks just to "reduce the workload." I mean, no bins, no trash, everything looks clean, right? Pure genius. Meanwhile, they've got hundreds of municipal inspectors out there just making sure citizens are walking properly down the street.

The real crisis in this country isn't some virus or an earthquake; it's the incompetent government that's been handing out jobs to their buddies for thirty years straight. Out of those 800,000 people in the private sector, you don't even have 300,000 who actually operate independently from the government. A huge chunk of them rely on businesses that depend on government contracts, so if those contracts vanish, they go down too. The state basically controls 80% of the GDP. That is the real sickness in America.

That's why we need a total systemic collapse. We need it so we can finally kick all those cronies out to where they belong—all hundred thousand members of The Party and their entire extended families.

No, any sane person would realize that in a situation like this, you'd spend the next year or eighteen months aggressively slashing the federal budget and cutting spending across the board. You'd have to sit the public down and explain that certain services just aren't happening for a year or two... strictly due to force majeure...

The solution isn't mass layoffs, heavy taxes, or slashing everyone's paychecks... It's strictly about gutting the budget.

Jack Cook7 said:Are you seriously guaranteeing me a full month on this? Because if that warranty turns out to be total BS, who’s actually footing the bill for the "repair"?

Quentin:
Jose Scott3
Short and sweet: beat it.
That’s just how we talk around here.

Quentin:
Look, everyone needs to chill—this whole budget situation isn't nearly as dramatic as people are making it out to be.

Just so you know, besides the doctors, the military, the cops, and the firefighters, there are plenty of other folks working in public institutions who actually show up to an office every single day instead of working from home. You really think they should all get bumped up to minimum wage too?

Man, your whole post sounds like "Revenge of the Private Sector, Part 2" or some weirdly specific cheerleader chant from Miroslav’s squad.

Honestly, they should just get it over with already: set one flat salary for everyone working in government and public service based on the national average here in the States. Just level the playing field! That way, politicians and all those useless bureaucrats would actually take a temporary pay cut, while our police officers, firefighters, nurses, and the rest of the real heroes would see a temporary bump up. Simple, right?
I'll be sure to come back and bug you at the end of the year once we're stuck staring at a $130 billion budget with a massive $50 billion deficit.

What do you guys think happens when our workforce drops from the current 1.3 million—with maybe 800,000 in the private sector—down to something like 500,000 in private business? What on earth is the government going to do with all those extra employees sitting around in state agencies and massive corporations? Like, what services are they even going to provide that someone would actually pay for? And more importantly, how would anyone afford it? Is a smart Government just gonna start hiking up Credit? Or maybe they’ll just sell off everything they own?

Honestly, they should just slash their salaries now and then slowly freeze them out or lay them off. It’s way better than all of us going broke at once just because The Party is playing backward games to protect their voter base.

This is actually a perfect excuse to trim down those 550+ townships and 130+ cities into a much more sensible 100+ total, kind of like how they do it in Denmark. The same goes for state and local agencies—take Bandic's sanitation department, for instance. They ballooned from 1,000 employees to 2,000, yet trash is still piling up in the streets! Lately, they've even started pulling recycling bins and trash cans off the sidewalks just to "reduce the workload." I mean, no bins, no trash, everything looks clean, right? Pure genius. Meanwhile, they've got hundreds of municipal inspectors out there just making sure citizens are walking properly down the street.

The real crisis in this country isn't some virus or an earthquake; it's the incompetent government that's been handing out jobs to their buddies for thirty years straight. Out of those 800,000 people in the private sector, you don't even have 300,000 who actually operate independently from the government. A huge chunk of them rely on businesses that depend on government contracts, so if those contracts vanish, they go down too. The state basically controls 80% of the GDP. That is the real sickness in America.

That's why we need a total systemic collapse. We need it so we can finally kick all those cronies out to where they belong—all hundred thousand members of The Party and their entire extended families.

The solution isn't about slashing salaries... It’s about setting a flat average pay for everyone in public and government service while this lasts. That way, the overpaid ones end up getting cut in half, and the underpaid people actually doing all the heavy lifting finally get a fair shake... $333 More.

Jack Cook7 said:Are you seriously guaranteeing me a full month on this? Because if that warranty turns out to be total BS, who’s actually footing the bill for the "repair"?

Quentin:
Jose Scott3
Short and sweet: beat it.
That’s just how we talk around here.

Quentin:
Look, everyone needs to chill—this whole budget situation isn't nearly as dramatic as people are making it out to be.

Just so you know, besides the doctors, the military, the cops, and the firefighters, there are plenty of other folks working in public institutions who actually show up to an office every single day instead of working from home. You really think they should all get bumped up to minimum wage too?

Man, your whole post sounds like "Revenge of the Private Sector, Part 2" or some weirdly specific cheerleader chant from Miroslav’s squad.

Honestly, they should just get it over with already: set one flat salary for everyone working in government and public service based on the national average here in the States. Just level the playing field! That way, politicians and all those useless bureaucrats would actually take a temporary pay cut, while our police officers, firefighters, nurses, and the rest of the real heroes would see a temporary bump up. Simple, right?
I'll be sure to come back and bug you at the end of the year once we're stuck staring at a $130 billion budget with a massive $50 billion deficit.

What do you guys think happens when our workforce drops from the current 1.3 million—with maybe 800,000 in the private sector—down to something like 500,000 in private business? What on earth is the government going to do with all those extra employees sitting around in state agencies and massive corporations? Like, what services are they even going to provide that someone would actually pay for? And more importantly, how would anyone afford it? Is a smart Government just gonna start hiking up Credit? Or maybe they’ll just sell off everything they own?

Honestly, they should just slash their salaries now and then slowly freeze them out or lay them off. It’s way better than all of us going broke at once just because The Party is playing backward games to protect their voter base.

This is actually a perfect excuse to trim down those 550+ townships and 130+ cities into a much more sensible 100+ total, kind of like how they do it in Denmark. The same goes for state and local agencies—take Bandic's sanitation department, for instance. They ballooned from 1,000 employees to 2,000, yet trash is still piling up in the streets! Lately, they've even started pulling recycling bins and trash cans off the sidewalks just to "reduce the workload." I mean, no bins, no trash, everything looks clean, right? Pure genius. Meanwhile, they've got hundreds of municipal inspectors out there just making sure citizens are walking properly down the street.

The real crisis in this country isn't some virus or an earthquake; it's the incompetent government that's been handing out jobs to their buddies for thirty years straight. Out of those 800,000 people in the private sector, you don't even have 300,000 who actually operate independently from the government. A huge chunk of them rely on businesses that depend on government contracts, so if those contracts vanish, they go down too. The state basically controls 80% of the GDP. That is the real sickness in America.

That's why we need a total systemic collapse. We need it so we can finally kick all those cronies out to where they belong—all hundred thousand members of The Party and their entire extended families.

Do you honestly believe the public sector is mostly made up of people who aren't voters or political hacks, or is that just your delusion? You're basically suggesting pay cuts and layoffs should be applied indiscriminately to every single civil servant, even the ones who have absolutely zero connection to the cronies or The Party?

If they actually start doing that, the first people to get screwed over will be the ones who aren't hacks or Party loyalists!
Jacob Kern2 Jacob Kern2 Active Member
100 messages
joined Jun 2024
#68 ·
electricbadger89 said:Exactly.
I asked, I called the FBI, we even tried through some connections—nothing. No chance.

They only rush emergency documents; residency permits aren't on the priority list.

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Check your private messages. 😉
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#69 ·
Jonathan Smith12 said:Please, let's not talk nonsense; any legitimate employer who isn't operating under the table could have secured passes for their staff without any trouble at all...

The issue is that certain isolated incidents have completely broken the system, because honestly, who has the time to spend hours verifying whether Matt, Steve, or Josephine are telling the truth when people's very livelihoods depend on those passes?

Regarding that gentleman from the potato farm and his supposed ten thousand visits—look, I live in the city, and I certainly wouldn't just open my door to anyone, but life in the countryside is different; the gates stay open and whoever wants to walk in, walks in....

I truly feel that if I actually have to sit here and explain this logic to you, then we've reached a point where there's really no point in continuing the conversation.

Then what's the point if tens of thousands of people are just going to end up leaving shelters again for work? What's stopping the hundred or so folks who leave just to visit a grocery store they don't have locally, or to see parents, grandparents, or a partner?

And it’s not different in the country—it's pretty obvious people aren't visiting each other much lately; they're mostly just staying home. In my view, people from more rural areas are far less of a headache than those from the cities.
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#70 ·
Keith Cox6 said:Hey Joseph Taylor11, listen—I have a downtown apartment where an entire wall from the building next door basically collapsed onto it. I only went over there to shut off the water and gas, and honestly, I couldn't even leave a key for the neighbors because their places were trashed way worse than mine, so they probably had to evacuate anyway. I only got lucky because of a recent full renovation (even the roof was done) and a bit of pure luck. Also, I work in healthcare, so while I'm not legally restricted from moving around, I'm staying put specifically so I don't catch whatever is going around and end up unable to show up for work.
If something goes wrong with the utilities in your place, the building manager will likely give you a heads-up after they've already shut off the main valves before you even arrive. In that case, the damage should be minimal, so those weekly trips of yours seem totally unnecessary to me. This is about priorities; I get that we all think we're the center of the universe, but imagine how much chaos would happen if everyone like us—people just wanting to "check in"—started driving around. It would be total mayhem.
Hang in there, it'll all work out.

Sent from my iPhone 12 using Reddit

Oh, I get what you're getting at... I know there's maybe a 1% chance of everything I listed actually happening... but there's this whole other string of "little things" that matter just as much to me...

Take this, for example: I once had an emergency where I ended up stuck in the hospital for ten days, leaving the apartment completely empty. While I was gone, I got hit with a massive bill $167 for water because a toilet was constantly running (usually my bill is only about $5, since I'm hardly ever home...)

But, uh... whatever. It's beside the point now. To me, this whole situation is insane, and I'm not backing down on it.
crimsonranger3 crimsonranger3 Member
43 messages
joined Oct 2020
#71 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Then what's the point if tens of thousands of people are just going to end up leaving shelters again for work? What's stopping the hundred or so folks who leave just to visit a grocery store they don't have locally, or to see parents, grandparents, or a partner?

And it’s not different in the country—it's pretty obvious people aren't visiting each other much lately; they're mostly just staying home. In my view, people from more rural areas are far less of a headache than those from the cities.

🙏
Jonathan Smith12 Jonathan Smith12 Active Member
87 messages
joined Jul 2012
#72 ·
Jose Scott3 said:Where'd you get that from? You can totally get away with it if you're all in the same spot or nearby, and as long as there's fewer than five of you... provided nobody's stuck in quarantine...

I hope you realize what a total load of crap you just spewed. That hospital connection is a joke... if things were actually serious, they'd know that "two confirmed cases" is basically nothing on paper. It means there are at least five times more people actually sick in that environment—maybe even ten times more if you count the ones showing zero symptoms. Unless your city is some medieval fortress that literally locked down every single gate the second the infection showed up... 🤦

But apparently, his contact told him there were only two infected people, so why on earth are you stepping in now to ruin the perfect little picture he's painted? 🤦
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#73 ·
Jose Scott3 said:Where'd you get that from? You can totally get away with it if you're all in the same spot or nearby, and as long as there's fewer than five of you... provided nobody's stuck in quarantine...

I hope you realize what a total load of crap you just spewed. That hospital connection is a joke... if things were actually serious, they'd know that "two confirmed cases" is basically nothing on paper. It means there are at least five times more people actually sick in that environment—maybe even ten times more if you count the ones showing zero symptoms. Unless your city is some medieval fortress that literally locked down every single gate the second the infection showed up... 🤦

But how far counts as "within" or "close"?
Is that actually written down anywhere?

Honestly—does the distance even matter? If a person goes alone and they'll be by themselves anyway...?

(Just thinking out loud here—given my own situation....)
Keith Cox6 Keith Cox6 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2010
#74 ·
mellowseal1 said:I don't get it either, I've already mentioned that before.

In Washington, D.C., you can basically wander around normally without showing any kind of clearance...

Then it’s obvious—those leaked documents they later denied by claiming there were "typos" or "errors" aren't actually that far-fetched or impossible. The real question is: do you really want to be caught stuck in the middle of an isolation like that? 😉

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Keith Cox6 Keith Cox6 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2010
#75 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Oh, I get what you're getting at... I know there's maybe a 1% chance of everything I listed actually happening... but there's this whole other string of "little things" that matter just as much to me...

Take this, for example: I once had an emergency where I ended up stuck in the hospital for ten days, leaving the apartment completely empty. While I was gone, I got hit with a massive bill $167 for water because a toilet was constantly running (usually my bill is only about $5, since I'm hardly ever home...)

But, uh... whatever. It's beside the point now. To me, this whole situation is insane, and I'm not backing down on it.

What are the odds of something like that happening again? I mean, some people lose their roofs in ten seconds—God forbid anything worse happens than a leaky toilet. 🙂

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Jonathan Smith12 Jonathan Smith12 Active Member
87 messages
joined Jul 2012
#76 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Then what's the point if tens of thousands of people are just going to end up leaving shelters again for work? What's stopping the hundred or so folks who leave just to visit a grocery store they don't have locally, or to see parents, grandparents, or a partner?

And it’s not different in the country—it's pretty obvious people aren't visiting each other much lately; they're mostly just staying home. In my view, people from more rural areas are far less of a headache than those from the cities.

Now, that sounds like a rather arbitrary numerical estimate of yours,
or perhaps you heard some inside scoop from a connection of yours
regarding these tens of thousands of folks who will be shifting their legal addresses for employment reasons
while only about a hundred are actually looking to move just to plant some potatoes or check on the plumbing at a weekend cabin
and therefore, you're suggesting the whole decision is essentially pointless?
vividranger8 vividranger8 Active Member
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#77 ·
nimbleharbor10 said:Exactly. What kind of threat does a man pose just by digging in his own dirt out in a rural area? It is sheer idiocy to prevent him from doing that.
My take is this: someone drafted this in an incredibly poor and imprecise manner. They are banning far too much, and the language is vague and lacks any legitimate justification. You should regulate gatherings, not basic movement.

So, a few days ago, I headed out into the mountains where the only thing I was likely to run into was a bear. And honestly, that was the whole point—just to stay as far away from people on the streets as possible...
vividranger8 vividranger8 Active Member
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#78 ·
Jose Scott3 said:Oh sure, you'll just guarantee everyone else behaves—like someone heading out to their ranch or a cabin won't stop by the ExxonMobil station, then hit the grocery store, then swing by cousin number one's place, then maybe cousin number two's...

The whole point is to kill off any kind of social contact, not just restrict walking around. There’s zero guarantee that someone actually out and about isn't going to grab an opportunity to hang out.

And being a "responsible individual" doesn't mean squat. The last two weeks have already proven there are way too many people who couldn't care less.

Maybe we should actually do something about those irresponsible folks, right?
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
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#79 ·
Keith Cox6 said:What are the odds of something like that happening again? I mean, some people lose their roofs in ten seconds—God forbid anything worse happens than a leaky toilet. 🙂

Sent from my iPhone 12 using Reddit

This is just an illustration.
Honestly, it doesn't even matter... I know where I stand on this.
velvetstag5 velvetstag5 Member
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#80 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:How are you supposed to limit the virus to certain spots when there are infected people all over America?

A travel ban between counties might have made sense to avoid situations like last Sunday—but harassing people who commute to cities for work every single day is just stupid.

There’s no perfect fix here. You just have to use every tool available.

By limiting movement, you reduce the chance of the virus expanding everywhere at once

across multiple locations, making it much easier to keep individual outbreaks under control.

People have proven how irresponsible and uninformed they can be,

so we clearly can't rely on collective conscience or common sense.

Only a firm hand works. Just look at China and Korea. Or Italy and Spain.

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