Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

James Phillips92 said:Not in places like the Deep South, though. It makes sense—that’s just the kind of politicians we deal with here.

I mean, you guys basically handpicked them yourselves, right?
But hey, let's not get carried away, because mine aren't exactly winning any awards either.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/...example_tid=5674

With 1,160 infections and one fatality reported nationwide, the consensus remains clear: they didn't just flatten the curve; they absolutely crushed it.

Yesterday, the Washington Post ran a feature titled, "New Zealand didn't just flatten the curve. They crushed it." Their reporter, Anna Fifield—who hails from New Zealand but has spent the last two decades living abroad—noted that it took a mere ten days to prove that the New Zealand strategy of immediate quarantine was undeniably effective.

While this approach shows promise, its success depends entirely on sustained discipline. One might eventually grasp why restricting movement is an absolute necessity, given how little we truly understand about the broader complexities of this situation.
Furthermore, one cannot ignore the role that population density and physical proximity play in these dynamics.

Jerry Robinson56 said:https://www.nytimes.com/article/...example_tid=5674

With 1,160 infections and one fatality reported nationwide, the consensus remains clear: they didn't just flatten the curve; they absolutely crushed it.

Yesterday, the Washington Post ran a feature titled, "New Zealand didn't just flatten the curve. They crushed it." Their reporter, Anna Fifield—who hails from New Zealand but has spent the last two decades living abroad—noted that it took a mere ten days to prove that the New Zealand strategy of immediate quarantine was undeniably effective.

While this approach shows promise, its success depends entirely on sustained discipline. One might eventually grasp why restricting movement is an absolute necessity, given how little we truly understand about the broader complexities of this situation.
Furthermore, one cannot ignore the role that population density and physical proximity play in these dynamics.

That doesn't apply here. This isn't about lockdowns. In New York City, with millions of people, everyone is just going wherever they want. Over 600,000 passes have already been issued.

So you’re just gonna toss an entire island on the other side of the universe into quarantine...
Congrats, I guess!
Honestly, that’s exactly how we should be handling drug addiction. Just throw everyone into a quarantine zone, blast out some data showing how "perfectly" the isolation is working because nobody is using anymore...
And then, once you finally swing those doors wide open...

Moving from city to city with these passes is just a massive headache for everyone involved, nothing more. There’s zero medical basis for it; they’re basically just making it up as they go. Plus, you’ve got this mountain of bureaucracy and data updates that are bound to get delayed or lost in the system. Basically, unequal treatment is a guarantee at this point.

It would have been way more straightforward if they just restricted movement between counties instead—if they even had the right to do that under the Constitution.

There would be way fewer hoops to jump through, everything would be much clearer, and we wouldn't need to waste so many resources like police staffing and stuff.

Some folks are stuck in their towns because they're totally isolated and need permits just to move... meanwhile, these other guys are out wandering wherever they want.

Not sure if this is even legit...

A woman who tested positive showed up at the local USPS branch, did her business, then posted online: "I have COVID, disinfect this office." Response from the USPS? They just shut the whole damn location down.

I am still somewhat in the dark regarding the specific metrics used to determine which municipalities are deemed "eligible for consolidation" (as we see happening in parts of California, for instance)...
Aside from those official criteria—it really just comes down to whoever happens to be holding the reins of power at the time. ☕

Google the term: local government.
I’m putting the emphasis on "local" and "government."

The stuff you're stressing about? Those are perfect questions to throw at your mayor or city manager.

I mean, looking at this—it seems like there might be some sort of secret deal happening over in the Midwest region—to just monitor the main entry point into the state, since controlling everything else wouldn't really make any sense, I guess.

Joshua Gray75 said:I am still somewhat in the dark regarding the specific metrics used to determine which municipalities are deemed "eligible for consolidation" (as we see happening in parts of California, for instance)...
Aside from those official criteria—it really just comes down to whoever happens to be holding the reins of power at the time. ☕

I think I mentioned somewhere above:
He pointed out how the local county administration basically "utilized" Section 18 of the Homeland Security Act—which, if I recall correctly, allows multiple jurisdictions to coordinate their efforts together.

He also highlighted that the decision regarding free movement was actually made possible by activating those mutual aid agreements for coordinating Civil Defense activities—agreements that were signed by the mayors and local officials in those former municipal areas, and then given the green light by the National Emergency Management Agency.

Jerry Robinson56 said:https://www.nytimes.com/article/...example_tid=5674

With 1,160 infections and one fatality reported nationwide, the consensus remains clear: they didn't just flatten the curve; they absolutely crushed it.

Yesterday, the Washington Post ran a feature titled, "New Zealand didn't just flatten the curve. They crushed it." Their reporter, Anna Fifield—who hails from New Zealand but has spent the last two decades living abroad—noted that it took a mere ten days to prove that the New Zealand strategy of immediate quarantine was undeniably effective.

While this approach shows promise, its success depends entirely on sustained discipline. One might eventually grasp why restricting movement is an absolute necessity, given how little we truly understand about the broader complexities of this situation.
Furthermore, one cannot ignore the role that population density and physical proximity play in these dynamics.

And what, are we just going to be under lockdown forever now?
😵

hollowtrucker77 said:And what, are we just going to be under lockdown forever now?
😵

Of course not. When the top leader of a country sneezes, you don't just sit around waiting to see what happens—you go straight into quarantine. That's how it works.

Lawrence Reed3 said:I think I mentioned somewhere above:
He pointed out how the local county administration basically "utilized" Section 18 of the Homeland Security Act—which, if I recall correctly, allows multiple jurisdictions to coordinate their efforts together.

He also highlighted that the decision regarding free movement was actually made possible by activating those mutual aid agreements for coordinating Civil Defense activities—agreements that were signed by the mayors and local officials in those former municipal areas, and then given the green light by the National Emergency Management Agency.

It’s quite clear to me... my questions are, in truth, merely rhetorical...

I mean... do the other counties simply lack the capacity to "digest" Article 18...?🤔

And yes... I am well aware that such a question is better suited for my department head... which is precisely why I am framing it as a rhetorical one...

Well, here is another example from the Midwest—just one of those absurd situations that nobody actually wants to touch, nobody has the energy for, and frankly, nobody feels like dealing with...

It seems they’ll only start making these moves right before the election... which is exactly what you'd expect from them...

By the way... I suppose... could someone perhaps explain to me—and I truly mean this in the spirit of inquiry—why there is such a pressing need to restrict movement? I can certainly wrap my head around certain aspects of it, of course... but the reasoning remains somewhat elusive...
To impose restrictions that essentially insult both logic and common sense—well, that is something I simply cannot fathom, nor can I bring myself to comprehend...

Alright, what are they actually going to do if they catch me leaving my town limits? I just need to go refuel, and the nearest gas station is in the next county over, for crying out loud. 🙄

Melissa Collins3 said:Of course not. When the top leader of a country sneezes, you don't just sit around waiting to see what happens—you go straight into quarantine. That's how it works.

Honestly, let's just pass a federal law banning sneezing, coughing, and coughing fits altogether, complete with a minimum fine of at least 10 bucks per offense. $0.00
et voila - problem solved.

hollowtrucker77 said:Honestly, let's just pass a federal law banning sneezing, coughing, and coughing fits altogether, complete with a minimum fine of at least 10 bucks per offense. $0.00
et voila - problem solved.

Quite the North Korean approach to public health, wouldn't you say?

hollowtrucker77 said:Honestly, let's just pass a federal law banning sneezing, coughing, and coughing fits altogether, complete with a minimum fine of at least 10 bucks per offense. $0.00
et voila - problem solved.

Remember when you used to cough just to mask the sound of a fart? Now you're farting just to hide the sound of a sneeze! This whole virus situation has completely flipped our social etiquette upside down!😁

Karen Hill40 said:Alright, what are they actually going to do if they catch me leaving my town limits? I just need to go refuel, and the nearest gas station is in the next county over, for crying out loud. 🙄

We’ve already gone over this topic once before... basically, if you manage to slip past or bypass the police checkpoint without being noticed, nothing happens—you fill up the tank and head right back home. If they actually pull you over, then you just turn around and go back. They aren't out there conducting random searches on everyone... at least, they haven't been lately. 🤔

Karen Hill40 said:Alright, what are they actually going to do if they catch me leaving my town limits? I just need to go refuel, and the nearest gas station is in the next county over, for crying out loud. 🙄

Just pull in reverse near the pump,

and if the cops show up, you just head back toward your own county,

🙂

It’s nine cities and 25 municipalities.